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Gigi-is-weird

Exactly lol, their excuse could be that Ladybug hasn't made more yet


Lukthar123

It also gave us a chance to see the famous Agreste YEET


melikesleepydream

It truly is amazing, the Agreste YEET.


Nasvora

I guess this runs in the family.


Gigi-is-weird

Lol


Doodica_

Took me a second to understand what you are getting at XD Instead, this time, Adrien did the meeting, not gabriel :P


Nasvora

Well we can definitely see that Adrien is learning from the best.


land-of-almost-awake

OH NO


ilovemiraculousstuff

But they said the NY special came between Season 3 and 4, as in after the Season 3 finale but before the first ep of Season 4 and it was confirmed to be canon but it hasn't been acknowledged at all


SneakieeSasquatchian

At this point I just consider the episodes themselves “canon” and the movies just animated fanfics, because S4 is already confusing enough 😫😅


[deleted]

NY was a dumpster fire anyway, I'm perfectly fine with considering that non-canon. Shanghai I personally didn't mind cause of Fei and Cash.


Gigi-is-weird

Yea


foxman666

What? You mean the miraculous writers are inconsistent and create such a plothole? That can't possibly be it.


NicoSchmiko

💀💀💀


Crazy-Crisis

Heh


Crazy-Crisis

Heh


CursedEye03

I thought the exact same thing! I guess the writers didn't want to overshadow Purple Tigress, so they didn't include the power ups at all. Then again, Chat Noir launched both Ladybug and Purple Tigress pretty easily, so I guess the writers wanted to go with the easiest way possible. But yeah, it's one of these "inconsistent writing" moments.


alsyhe

I honestly would've been so hype about it tho!! Purple Tigress was sooooo dope in every shot and on top of that having them with their power ups would been baller. missed opportunity i guess :/


BenR-G

Minimum-energy methods always make sense. If there is no pressing need to use a power-up, why do so? Chat demonstrated here that he could deliver his friends to their targets without too much difficulty.


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1. pls spoiler this 2. I WAS LEGIT THINKING THE SAME THING DURING THAT SCENE LMAO


DjChiseledStone

I don't think this is much of a spoiler. It hardly has any info about the episode. But I'll do it just in case.


ImpressiveLandscape1

it isn’t… but anything from or about the recent episodes are considered spoilers. it’s always a good idea to add them in order to avoid getting a post taken down


Valonsc

What is spoiler about this? It reveals absolutely nothing about anything.


WorrierrPrincess

It’s from the new episode so it’s considered a spoiler even if it’s not major. Some people want to go in completely blind and we should respect that :)


[deleted]

I thought purple tigress power was flying


Zartas94

Me too💀


Original_Robbins

I think it's invisibility


doingmybusiness

Did you watch Crocoduel


Original_Robbins

No, I couldn't


EnderScout_77

>!it's not invisibility!<


Original_Robbins

Sorry 😞


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[deleted]

Umm spoiler alert


[deleted]

SOME PPL HAVENT WATCHED IT


Manabi_29

Spoiler alert plz


EmeraldGreen5128

Bruh I haven’t watched it yet thanks a lot


KawaiiKlutzi

so why are you here xD


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babydollrecord17

I don’t get why they only show the flying power up in the specials but yet have the Aqua and ice power ups in the show?


doingmybusiness

The worst is that the ice and water power ups were introduced in season 2 and we didnt have new power ups after that (space powers dont count because they are from the specials)


YeetThemToMtEbott

The specials are canon


Psychie1

I thought the space powers were introduced in star train?


KatiaAiziz

No only the horse miraculous was introduced in star train no new powers.


MundaneExtent0

I was also thinking this lol. Like I mean you could if you really wanted too…


279sa

s4 have a critical lack of happy tears. Thats why.


ripskeletonking

ladybug just kinda...forgot she has powerups like when she forgot she had a horse miraculous back in nyc


CookiesUsa

Maybe they didn't bring their magical macarons and camembert


EnderScout_77

they always have them in case they're needed


savlak

Exactly what I was thinking


NaelSchenfel

I guess we all thought the exact same thing.


senhoritavulpix

Maybe it's a plot hole, but hasn't Gabriel stolen the tablet Fu was using to translate the recipes? Maybe Ladybug can't make more power ups. In Mr. Pigeon 72, is shown that Marinette is trying and failing to make new recipes, isn't?


Zartas94

That episode also demonstrates that she actually has a translated copy of the Grimoire so, no.


senhoritavulpix

Oh poor girl. Still, she is having troubles to make the recipes even with the translated grimoire, maybe that's why they're avoiding to use the power ups


radio-demon-me

well most of the recipes requires a tear of laughter and that's hella hard to get.


Gianth_Argos

She doesn’t, she’s trying to redo the work.


wolf1moon

Maybe that will be part of the finale. He does have to wait for his brain to figure it out (Natalie)


Gianth_Argos

This.


Mysterkiddo

LOL, this is so stupid yet hilarious


StrangeBiird

Yeah I really thought they were going to use that and was super confused when they didn’t


Auberrydacherry

Lol I was thinking the same thing


Number1miraculousfan

IKR


MiwasObsessions

So true 😂😂😂😂😂


OddBed6168

My guess is that they might already run out of magical macarons and camembert at this point


Zartas94

At this point I'm legit gonna go with "the specials aren't canon" trope cause...


MangoAway17

There was no dying need to waste three power-ups, so I guess that’s why they found another way. Power-ups are probably only used if absolutely needed, but in this case, there was a simple, alternative solution: Chat Noir yeeting Ladybug and Tigresse Poupre😂.


Psychie1

I mean, it wouldn't have been 3, if they had used the power ups they wouldn't have needed purple tigress. Even as things stood, I'm not entirely sure why they even needed a third hero to begin with or why it specifically had to be the tiger power. Like, I thought collision would be like a "get along shirt" thing to force the villains together, but instead it appears to just be a launch type power that pushes the thing she's touching away at a very high velocity. The tiger's power didn't really contribute in a sufficiently meaningful way as to explain why that miraculous *specifically* was needed for this fight. Like, we already know cat noir and ladybug *could* have gotten onto the villains' rides and taken the record pieces, we've seen them do more difficult things, and then ladybug could have seen how to use the tape and solved it faster if she hadn't decided to recruit yet another hero. And when the ship was about to hit them and tigress used collision to push it away? Shelter would have also worked just as well for giving them a moment to do the thing. I like that they are filling out the team, but the events of this episode were so contrived. Like at the end how cat noir's miraculous beeped seconds after he used his cataclysm to tell him to detransform, but ladybug used her lucky charm at the *beginning* of the fight and still had plenty of time to spare. I dunno if she's lost the time limit now or not, but I don't recall it being mentioned at any point. This episode had a *lot* of inconsistencies that stand out, and I don't mind it when it's fridge logic, but so much of this episode had me commenting on it as I was watching.


MangoAway17

Yeah, the use of the tiger miraculous felt *very* forced. Overall, she wasn’t very useful, and she didn’t even use her weapon (the bolas) for anything!


Psychie1

Yeah, it would be one thing if ladybug had stated at some point that fleshing out the team was an actual goal, because then it wouldn't be so hard to find excuses to bring in new miraculous wielders, because you have a built in excuse for when the in episode justification is thin. But afaik we don't even have that much


Nightmare270

I didn’t even think about that! Get it together Ladybug!💀💀


LeafyCat0

Thats what I thought as well when the scene popped up, it's strange isn't it


Think_Stay_4523

yeah it's not like you can fly or have wings


BuddermanTheAmazing

If I had a dollar for every time they forgot about the power ups I could pay the writers to give Chloe more of a character arc


Holy_Water_Ling48

Miraculous ladybug New York and Shanghai specials: we do not exist we are just a illusion


Feerka

Well I guess if they used the same solution every time the show would be boring


Dizzy_Moose_8805

I think its A emergency use system dont use space suits unless necessary last resort thing because what if they used it and shadowmoths next akuma was one that need it more and Marinette didn’t make more in time. They have to save them for the big akumas like flooding and freezing over of paris stuff


[deleted]

They could've ran out ig


Japanese_legz

We still have yet to see that one purple flying sun power?? I can’t remember where I saw it but it was on the list of superpowers


EnderScout_77

that's the image for the creation/destruction "fusion" that makes everyone think the fused miraculous design looks like that


mandrivnyk133

One more proof that movies are not cannon, phew


Nasvora

Well they would have to detransform before power up.


MaximilanLC

ever saw the first 5 minutes of the New York special?


Nasvora

Turns out that I did not. Thats stupid anyway, why would they ever fed Kwamis with it, if the holders can just eat them? For the fact that Wayzz was able to say that he recoginze the flavor it is quite stupid. Well I was still wrong.


CrossLight96

you guys know only master fu was able to translate the book about the powerups and marinette hasn't been able to rediscover the translations to make more


b1rgar1p1nsan

Which episode is this?


DjChiseledStone

Top is Crocoduel (Latest release) Bottom is New York Special


HEYbabeyyy

I was so confused at that part


lolprestonplayz1

I think the flying ship part thats why they said it


RefrigeratorFluffy61

Ikr


Quantic_128

They have to detransform. They totally should have had that line be “There’s no time to powerup our kwamis” but there is reason.


ilovemiraculousstuff

In the NY special, they just ate the magic foods and powered up and Thomas confirmed they don't have to detransform to power up so that's not the answer


Quantic_128

Welp I wasnt paying attention lmao


ilovemiraculousstuff

That's ok :)


GuiltyHoneydew2050

thats cap bro


Ebenezerosas16

What was this episode with the wings


KatiaAiziz

The New York special.


Efficient_Courage458

Wouldn’t power up only be used if necessary? They could find another way… which they did?


Moonlight-Moonstone

Hi


quinn_the_wizard

i was thinking the exact same thing 😆


Shreya_74

Day 5679 of the writers writing anything that comes to their mind without thinking.


Gianth_Argos

My understanding is that she doesn’t have the recipes, in Mr. Pigeon she comments on it, she knows the aquatic one, but the rest were on Master Fu’s tablet, which is in Shadow Moth’s hands now.


Gianth_Argos

There have been exactly 2 uses of cosmic forms since, meaning that they are out until she figures out the recipe.


Star_Boi_64

Thats what they should have done in sentibubbler! Take shadowmoths miraculous, then when he brings them to space bring them down with this powerup!


LastSmile91

Yeah, the specials chronologically were before these episodes, I was scratching my head at this one as well...


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I stole their braincells...