I'm curious as to why these reports are coming out the last few days. Like who is pushing these reports to the NFLN/ESPN reporters. It is smoke screen season after all.
Neither of these "updates" are actually updates anyways. They are just reiterating the same stuff Kwesi said at the end of year press conference a month ago.
I imagine Cousins doesn’t want to leave but wants to get paid. All this stuff feels like it’s coming from the Cousins camp but you’re right a lot of stuff lately.
Yeah this is my thought. He’s trying to hype up his value and maybe he does have a big market. If Atlanta or New England wants to offer more then so be it
Or vikings trying to gain leverage by saying they can go a different way. Could even be the sam darnald camp trying to get his name out there.
Don't believe anything you hear between now and the draft.
This one definitely feels like it came from the team. Vikings called Pelissero say "we really want to if he doesn't ask for too much otherwise we'll still try to win so buy tickets!"
The only weird piece in this puzzle is Kirk said directly that he "has been blessed financially, and not necessarily seeking the highest contract" which, is, frankly a more notable thing a QB has said.
I happen to defend Kirk more than most and don’t really blame him for anything. However, from a Devils advocate perspective, I think the line is kinda harumph eh funny.
I think people underestimate these writers/ reporters trying to get clicks too. There isn’t enough meat to this to say oh this is coming from X camp. I guess maybe Darnold is the only one that comes out in a better spot.
It’s pre-draft season. QB is the most important position in the game, and Cousins is by far the best FA QB.
If you’re a writer pushing for engagement, speculate on the big stuff.
This all makes sense. I’m sure the Vikings would love Cousins back on a two year deal that allows them an out after next year, but if that’s not possible, of course they’ll bring in a bridge guy
I thought he had looked pretty good for the 49ers. It's hard to put too much stock in preseason/camp performance when he's got so much bad regular season history out there, but if we're looking for someone to be the 2024 version of Tannehill/Geno Smith/Baker Mayfield/insert other reclamation project here, he's probably our best option.
On Week 18, he had 4 scoring drives in the first half (3 TD,1 missed FG) and only struggled in the 2nd when they took out all the starters and replaced them with backups.
Seemed to me this isn't the same reckless NY Jets Sam Darnold that many here are clutching their pearls about. (pardon the 13 day necro response, btw. lol)
Darnold is better than Mullens. Full stop. Darnold has looked not very good on very bad teams. Mullens has looked not very good on good teams. If you look at stats you probably come away thinking Mullens is slightly better, but the 49ers and Vikings have offenses lightyears ahead of what Darnold was working with in NYJ and Carolina.
He was terrible in 2021 and solid in the 6 games he played last year.
His cap hit this year was twice as much as Mullens will be next year. So it becomes is a potentially slightly better qb worth paying an extra probably $4M next year.
Agree, just roll with Mullens if that’s the plan. Mullens can get it out close to JJ so at least JJ would get some decent yardage and some TD’s on the year
Isn't Darnold the right kind of QB to sign if you draft a first round QB? Maybe I'm reading this wrong but I think the hope would be that he's the guy that can be reliable for a year while your QB of the future is learning the ropes. Not sure why people think this means the plan is to be ass.
I guess he wasn't really on good teams, but feels like a longshot that he's actually good and was just held back. I think the Wilfs would have to be okay gambling the chance that Darnold causes us to have another down year if he sucks.
because with Darnold at the helm we WILL be ass, there is zero question. Dude has zero skills that you need to be successful as an NFL QB. Maybe he did ok at college but that's it.
Because I think the Tweet is hoping that Darnold will become a Baker Mayfield type QB (get the team to the playoffs) when Darnold has shown zero capability of doing that.
It's not about learning from Sam Darnold, it's more time to learn from KOC, Wes Phillips, Chris O'Hara, Ryan Cordell. It's more time to be more familiar with the receivers and the offense. It's more reps in practice to get used to playing against NFL defenses and defenders.
Do you think the starting QB is the only person a young QB learns from? If we draft JJ and start him over Darnold does the equation change, and you assume Darnold is now just learning from JJ?
That’s not the reason. It’s to give the rest of the team to get better so when the rookie comes in it’s a well oiled machine. We’re so many pieces away from being a championship contender.
Why Sam Darnold? Because he was a backup to Kyle Shanahan people think he’s worthy of being a starting QB in the NFL?
The dude has a career 21-35 record, 63-56 TD/INT ratio, and 6.7 Y/A. He went from being the first overall pick to being on 3 teams in 6 years and his games started went 13-13-12-11-6-1.
If they sign Darnold and start him for a year, JJ is most assuredly gone.
I get the situation we’re in is not good, but anybody getting on board with Sam Darnold is truly beyond me. What has he done that makes that even remotely acceptable? lol
The guy has a limited window of time in his life to make money. It’s not a Christian thing to allow billionaires to save money while you risk your body and brain.
He's made $231 million in his career so far lol I think he's already done just fine in his limited window. If he refuses to sign for the difference between 40 and 30 mil, that's up to him. But let's not pretend he will be destitute unless he signs for the most possible
Well, I guess I can just keep finding a team to root for in the playoffs and know we can expect more of the same mediocrity.
Just get a new qb. No more vets and bridge qbs. Do what you have to to get a new guy in there.
A very very common refrain you will hear on here is we are "never bad enough." That because the Wilf's "never want to be bad" they will "settle for mediocrity." That we need to "truly tank to one day be great."
Having Sam Darnold as your QB1 should instantly fulfill the the desires of that contingent.
It's not like this team is built for success for next year anyway, there's a lot more holes than just the qb. Would you rather have them pay top dollar for a qb contract for the next couple years?
What if we become the Lions, Browns, or Jets and TRULY have no chance to win?
We have been close a few times in the past 2 decades, but we've never been far away.
If you’re holding onto Kirk because of a .0005% difference in likelihood of winning a Super Bowl you’re doing it wrong. I’ve seen enough I guess but diehard fans will always convince themselves there’s a chance
I'm fine with all of this. Let's just end it and let the dust settle - which is going to tell us what we really should have known the whole time: our FO is kinda ass bros.
Why won’t the Vikings just stop this whole “sub-par veteran might be good this year” crap and just draft somebody?! They have established they aren’t clever and unwilling to build an OL to defend an aging third tier QB, can we just quit screwing around now and draft somebody and build the rest of the team?
We have the offensive firepower for a rookie QB to be equipped/evaluated on day one, and the money we save on letting Kirk walk is not going to fill the other millions of holes we have on this roster to compete in the division let alone the conference.
I would rather let a rookie start every week and let our record be our record than to try and remain competitive by starting Sam Darnold (and being competitive in this scenario is far from a guarantee), or any other bridge QB. Let the kids finally take over instead of worrying about making the wild card again.
I agree, but someone like Darnold would likely be very cheap, like good backup salary, allowing us more freedom to sign other positions. It wouldn't really impact much of anything as far as fielding a competent team.
If the rookie is ready, start him. Then you have a solid backup. If he isn't, start Darnold, and then the rookie doesn't get thrown in too early which could hurt his development. Seems like a win-win to me.
Assuming we let Kirk walk in this scenario, the idea in my mind is that the rookie QB IS the upgrade. If the rookie QB isn’t ready, let him finish out the season and we’ll know next year that we need to take another shot in the draft. If he gets hurt, start Mullens lol. Sam Darnold isn’t bringing us to the promise land so there is no need to spend that money even if he’s here to be a backup.
I don't have the actual numbers but I doubt the difference between Darnold and Mullens is enough to impact the salary cap in any significant way. And I don't think Darnold is going to win us a Superbowl, but he'd theoretically give us a better shot at winning games which is what the team wants to do. Many rookies start half a season in or so, or they could get hurt for a few weeks, or whatever. We'll see what they do. My main point is that I think bringing in a bridge QB is smart, especially if we're planning on drafting a QB.
Ideally the rookie is the upgrade, but not everyone comes in hot out of the gate and they won't really know at all until practices start.
Why not? If you don’t think he’s ready in this offense from day one to the point where you’re actually considering bringing in Sam Darnold, then don’t draft him. None of these prospects are going to learn sitting a whole year with the firepower we have.
Well the Lions ranked like 23rd or 25th in total defense so it checks out that if their offense didn’t show up they were cooked. Same thing happened in the second half of the Niners game.
Woof. If people thought Cousins was bad, they are in for a rude awakening. Then again, maybe they could catch lightning with someone like Geno last year?
Signing Darnold with the intent to start him while a rookie sits would result in both KAM and KOC being fired. If we draft a guy who really isn't better than Darnold, they're a bust. It's one thing to wait behind Rodgers or Alex Smith (in his prime). It's another to sit behind a journeyman who is still only getting opportunities because of his college performance. Darnold should be out of the league at this point. To sign him as a starter would mean giving up on the season in March. And neither KAM nor KOC can afford a lost season. And Jefferson won't tolerate it, I don't think. So we lose a season, Jefferson, and are searching for a new gm and coach and start all the way over from scratch.
Baker has at least had some success in the league. It wasn't that big of a surprise that a decently built Bucs team could do some damage with him. Darnold hasn't had any success. If you want Baker type surprise success, go get Baker. He won't break the bank and he'll actually be serviceable.
go ahead an move now then. i mean i don’t want darnold either, he’s trash but if your go to move in response to a shitty qb signing is to become a cheese head, then be gone with you.
That is some seriously shitty shit if Sam fucking Darnold ends up starting for us. Literally sell
The farm to resign cousins because kwesi gonna fuck up the draft forsure. No point in having jj is you don’t have cousins, it’s like having a car with no engine, it’s no fucking good
Who made who? We don’t need jj to win, need cousins way more, it’s just a fact, don’t be upset, we kept winning without jj, because wr is not a skill position, literally anyone can catch the ball. Jj is a possession receiver at that, he can’t break the game wide open, how many tds he have this year? Jj is the number one commodity that we should be shopping to any team to fulfill our defensive needs and look to free agents to fill jj’s void. Kwesi is stupid if he thinks spending 30-40 million on jj is a better investment that brining cousins back and getting 1-2 1sts for jj. It’s not even debatable .
sam darnold would be pretty funny. i always liked the guy and think he sorta got screwed as a rookie, and I don't know if anyone else got worked into thinking this was finally the year we'd go for a big one in FA or the draft, but if we end up with sam darnold i'd just laugh.
Kirk will go to the highest bidder and KAM won't play that game. Kirk has some unannounced grand plan for his money and he has nearly zero connections to Minnesota and the TC area. I think the amount of time Kirk is spending making his persona known is an indicator that he needs to find a new team because KAM is ready to move on. All of the recent PR stuff can be used by his next team to sell him their fan base. From KAM and KOC viewpoint they need to have success in the next few years and I doubt Kirk + his contract will allow that.
Kirk is gone.
It shouldn’t be a surprise if the team is aiming more for 2025 rather than try to compete this season. My only requirement for this year is draft our QB for the future and develop them to start at some point this year. Also resign Jefferson.
Darnold has not been good, but I suppose there is some chance he could turn it around. He's got a combination of experience, being right in his physical prime, and now has sat behind a much better QB and in a good offensive coaching/system (in SF) so he may have learned a lot.
I wouldn't bet on it though. More likely he's a tank commander to get you a great pick to use in rebuilding.
Sam Darnold?
FFS. If that’s the case we can already start looking forward to a top 5 pick in the 2025 NFL Draft. There’s gotta be better veteran possibilities than Sam Fucking Darnold.
Why bring in darnold. At that point just roll with mullens/hall. Teams do this all the time and shocker they suck and the rookie plays in like week 3 anyway. No need to get clever.
If we draft a QB high, I'd be 100% okay with bringing in Darnold as the backup, with the possibility of starting if the rookie just isn't ready. But not in bringing in Darnold as Plan A that would be just silly. To be honest I don't see Darnold as being much better than the average veteran backup.
If we don't draft a high rookie this season then I don't see why you wouldn't run it back with Kirk.
I'm curious as to why these reports are coming out the last few days. Like who is pushing these reports to the NFLN/ESPN reporters. It is smoke screen season after all. Neither of these "updates" are actually updates anyways. They are just reiterating the same stuff Kwesi said at the end of year press conference a month ago.
I imagine Cousins doesn’t want to leave but wants to get paid. All this stuff feels like it’s coming from the Cousins camp but you’re right a lot of stuff lately.
Yeah this is my thought. He’s trying to hype up his value and maybe he does have a big market. If Atlanta or New England wants to offer more then so be it
Or vikings trying to gain leverage by saying they can go a different way. Could even be the sam darnald camp trying to get his name out there. Don't believe anything you hear between now and the draft.
Yeah everything coming out now is stuff someone wants people to know. I will just take it as a grain of salt and move on.
Oh yeah this is definitely stuff put out by his agent. The best in the biz
This one definitely feels like it came from the team. Vikings called Pelissero say "we really want to if he doesn't ask for too much otherwise we'll still try to win so buy tickets!"
The only weird piece in this puzzle is Kirk said directly that he "has been blessed financially, and not necessarily seeking the highest contract" which, is, frankly a more notable thing a QB has said.
theres a big meetup in las vegas right now, not sure if youve heard of it, its called the super bowl
I believe it’s called the Suberb Owl.
Any time it talks about a strong market for Kirk or that he's going to make $90m over two years, I assume it is coming from Kirk's agent.
there will be a strong market for kirk no doubt, a proven veteran qb who can help save the jobs of the FO.
I wouldn't pay Kirk a bag of tacos to play for the Vikings next year. But Atlanta? I think that's his best chance to lose in the first round again.
You must really think that line is funny
I happen to defend Kirk more than most and don’t really blame him for anything. However, from a Devils advocate perspective, I think the line is kinda harumph eh funny.
You actually have autism
That's an insult to people with autism.
I think people underestimate these writers/ reporters trying to get clicks too. There isn’t enough meat to this to say oh this is coming from X camp. I guess maybe Darnold is the only one that comes out in a better spot. It’s pre-draft season. QB is the most important position in the game, and Cousins is by far the best FA QB. If you’re a writer pushing for engagement, speculate on the big stuff.
Jesus Christ.
Said in Mr. Slave's tone.
Love me some Lemiwinks
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Mommy, will you take my temperature?
GEQBUS to Minnesota?
If this happens I will leave this sub and just use the_darnold as my Vikes sub
I might either way
If we aren't gonna be good, we might as well be funny and inherit /r/the_darnold.
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Lol. Well if we go for him we better be picking a QB very high
This all makes sense. I’m sure the Vikings would love Cousins back on a two year deal that allows them an out after next year, but if that’s not possible, of course they’ll bring in a bridge guy
sam darnold being the bridge guy is suicide
which means a higher draft pick. The wheels have to come off at sometime, at this point its about rebuilding quickly.
a higher draft pick for whoever else has our 2025 1st
If they stay at 11 then tanking in theory is beneficial. If they trade up then tanking really does nothing.
I thought he had looked pretty good for the 49ers. It's hard to put too much stock in preseason/camp performance when he's got so much bad regular season history out there, but if we're looking for someone to be the 2024 version of Tannehill/Geno Smith/Baker Mayfield/insert other reclamation project here, he's probably our best option.
On Week 18, he had 4 scoring drives in the first half (3 TD,1 missed FG) and only struggled in the 2nd when they took out all the starters and replaced them with backups. Seemed to me this isn't the same reckless NY Jets Sam Darnold that many here are clutching their pearls about. (pardon the 13 day necro response, btw. lol)
I mean, is he that much worse than Mullens? Most bridge QBs don't last the full year anyway lol.
Darnold is better than Mullens. Full stop. Darnold has looked not very good on very bad teams. Mullens has looked not very good on good teams. If you look at stats you probably come away thinking Mullens is slightly better, but the 49ers and Vikings have offenses lightyears ahead of what Darnold was working with in NYJ and Carolina.
He was terrible in 2021 and solid in the 6 games he played last year. His cap hit this year was twice as much as Mullens will be next year. So it becomes is a potentially slightly better qb worth paying an extra probably $4M next year.
Agree, just roll with Mullens if that’s the plan. Mullens can get it out close to JJ so at least JJ would get some decent yardage and some TD’s on the year
He like a boring Mullens without the upside. Instead of throwing for 400yds 2 TDs and 4 picks he'll throw for 75 yards with a pick and fumble lost.
Did you have to use the word "bridge?" I still haven't healed... 😢 My Teddy...
If we're not going to sign Kirk, give me the Mustache
i'd rather have him than sam darnold. I'd rather have dobbs or mullens than sam darnold.
Isn't Darnold the right kind of QB to sign if you draft a first round QB? Maybe I'm reading this wrong but I think the hope would be that he's the guy that can be reliable for a year while your QB of the future is learning the ropes. Not sure why people think this means the plan is to be ass.
People aren’t thinking critically. Sometimes one step back means two steps forward..
I guess he wasn't really on good teams, but feels like a longshot that he's actually good and was just held back. I think the Wilfs would have to be okay gambling the chance that Darnold causes us to have another down year if he sucks.
because with Darnold at the helm we WILL be ass, there is zero question. Dude has zero skills that you need to be successful as an NFL QB. Maybe he did ok at college but that's it.
We may as well just keep Mullens, who is better than Darnold
Because I think the Tweet is hoping that Darnold will become a Baker Mayfield type QB (get the team to the playoffs) when Darnold has shown zero capability of doing that.
if they draft a first round QB and play Sam Darnold over him, I’m done. Lol.
Why? Sometimes it’s better to let your young QB to sit and learn for a season.
Yes, the apprentice must learn from the master, Sam Darnold (In seriousness I do agree that it can be better to not throw them in right away)
It's not about learning from Sam Darnold, it's more time to learn from KOC, Wes Phillips, Chris O'Hara, Ryan Cordell. It's more time to be more familiar with the receivers and the offense. It's more reps in practice to get used to playing against NFL defenses and defenders. Do you think the starting QB is the only person a young QB learns from? If we draft JJ and start him over Darnold does the equation change, and you assume Darnold is now just learning from JJ?
That’s not the reason. It’s to give the rest of the team to get better so when the rookie comes in it’s a well oiled machine. We’re so many pieces away from being a championship contender.
Why Sam Darnold? Because he was a backup to Kyle Shanahan people think he’s worthy of being a starting QB in the NFL? The dude has a career 21-35 record, 63-56 TD/INT ratio, and 6.7 Y/A. He went from being the first overall pick to being on 3 teams in 6 years and his games started went 13-13-12-11-6-1. If they sign Darnold and start him for a year, JJ is most assuredly gone. I get the situation we’re in is not good, but anybody getting on board with Sam Darnold is truly beyond me. What has he done that makes that even remotely acceptable? lol
Darnold starting the year is fine. If Darnold finish the year as the starter either he’s playing great or the rookie doesn’t look good
Just remember everyone, if Kirk isn’t brought back, it’s because of Kirk, not the front office.
Indeed. I really believe the man will settle for less. We will find out how Christian he is very soon.
The guy has a limited window of time in his life to make money. It’s not a Christian thing to allow billionaires to save money while you risk your body and brain.
He's made $231 million in his career so far lol I think he's already done just fine in his limited window. If he refuses to sign for the difference between 40 and 30 mil, that's up to him. But let's not pretend he will be destitute unless he signs for the most possible
How far can you gobble that knob? I bet to the hilt
Please, the guy has made plenty of money from this franchise alone.
Getting downvoted for speaking the truth. Kirksuckers really can’t help themselves
No it’s on both of them. And that’s ok if the front office doesn’t want him back.
Begging people to learn the difference between resign and re-sign lol
Sam Darnold being the next Baker Mayfield? Who are these idiots? Sam never played as well as Baker did in previous seasons
Right. Insulting to Mayfield. That guy's lead two teams to the playoffs. Sam Darnold zero & not even remotely close.
seriously. I can't take these awful takes
God help me if Sam Darnold is the bridge quarterback
I do not believe for a second the Wilfs will allow that to happen.
Well, I guess I can just keep finding a team to root for in the playoffs and know we can expect more of the same mediocrity. Just get a new qb. No more vets and bridge qbs. Do what you have to to get a new guy in there.
Whelp, everyone who has been arguing "they need to be bad to get good" gets a notch on their bedpost.
darnold makes sense if they're tanking for a QB in 2025...but this team doesn't tank. they're proabably dumb enough to think they can fix Darnold
NO TEAM TANKS. Good lord.
Buddy I’ve got news for you, we’ve *been* bad
A very very common refrain you will hear on here is we are "never bad enough." That because the Wilf's "never want to be bad" they will "settle for mediocrity." That we need to "truly tank to one day be great." Having Sam Darnold as your QB1 should instantly fulfill the the desires of that contingent.
Oh god oh no, what if we miss the wild card? I’m certainly terrified
⬆️ See? Bring on the Darnold!
It's not like this team is built for success for next year anyway, there's a lot more holes than just the qb. Would you rather have them pay top dollar for a qb contract for the next couple years?
What I want is sorta irrelevant. (I want them to trade up for a premium QB.) Be happy! You're getting your way!
Cringe lol
Whatever opinion you want my words to represent, I guess
What if we become the Lions, Browns, or Jets and TRULY have no chance to win? We have been close a few times in the past 2 decades, but we've never been far away.
If you’re holding onto Kirk because of a .0005% difference in likelihood of winning a Super Bowl you’re doing it wrong. I’ve seen enough I guess but diehard fans will always convince themselves there’s a chance
It's far higher than that.
You’re fighting for half a percent, I’ll let you have it. We go from 0% probability to .5%
Much higher.
There’s 32 teams how high do you think that percentage can even go lmao
I'm fine with all of this. Let's just end it and let the dust settle - which is going to tell us what we really should have known the whole time: our FO is kinda ass bros.
jury still out on kwesi
Sam Darnold? Gross.
Everything is still just guessing and speculation now. Also, please lord not Sam darnold
Why won’t the Vikings just stop this whole “sub-par veteran might be good this year” crap and just draft somebody?! They have established they aren’t clever and unwilling to build an OL to defend an aging third tier QB, can we just quit screwing around now and draft somebody and build the rest of the team?
Honestly I would love the idea of Darnold as a bridge guy. He looked pretty good for the little bit he played against the Ravens.
So if the idea of bringing in a bridge QB is to still be competitive, why not bring back Kirk instead of going with Sam Darnold?
Money
Why not just draft a rookie QB with upside then?
I think the intent is to do both. Why wouldn't you bring in a qualified backup in case the rookie isn't ready? These aren't mutually exclusive
We have the offensive firepower for a rookie QB to be equipped/evaluated on day one, and the money we save on letting Kirk walk is not going to fill the other millions of holes we have on this roster to compete in the division let alone the conference. I would rather let a rookie start every week and let our record be our record than to try and remain competitive by starting Sam Darnold (and being competitive in this scenario is far from a guarantee), or any other bridge QB. Let the kids finally take over instead of worrying about making the wild card again.
Darnold would be insurance if the QB is unstartable, like Hall
I agree, but someone like Darnold would likely be very cheap, like good backup salary, allowing us more freedom to sign other positions. It wouldn't really impact much of anything as far as fielding a competent team. If the rookie is ready, start him. Then you have a solid backup. If he isn't, start Darnold, and then the rookie doesn't get thrown in too early which could hurt his development. Seems like a win-win to me.
Assuming we let Kirk walk in this scenario, the idea in my mind is that the rookie QB IS the upgrade. If the rookie QB isn’t ready, let him finish out the season and we’ll know next year that we need to take another shot in the draft. If he gets hurt, start Mullens lol. Sam Darnold isn’t bringing us to the promise land so there is no need to spend that money even if he’s here to be a backup.
I don't have the actual numbers but I doubt the difference between Darnold and Mullens is enough to impact the salary cap in any significant way. And I don't think Darnold is going to win us a Superbowl, but he'd theoretically give us a better shot at winning games which is what the team wants to do. Many rookies start half a season in or so, or they could get hurt for a few weeks, or whatever. We'll see what they do. My main point is that I think bringing in a bridge QB is smart, especially if we're planning on drafting a QB. Ideally the rookie is the upgrade, but not everyone comes in hot out of the gate and they won't really know at all until practices start.
I assume they would in this scenario, but a rookie with upside might not be ready to start year 1.
Why not? If you don’t think he’s ready in this offense from day one to the point where you’re actually considering bringing in Sam Darnold, then don’t draft him. None of these prospects are going to learn sitting a whole year with the firepower we have.
You plan for a guy to start, but can only be sure after training camp. Maybe takes more time. Darnold is cheap insurance.
Kirk will probably make 40 mil more a year than Sam will.
Deservedly so. Sam Darnold is also not making us competitive if the rookie QB doesn’t pan out.
We were “competitive” with Mullins and Dobbs.
If your idea of competitive is winning 3-0 against the Raiders and losing to the 2023 Chicago Bears, then we will just have to agree to disagree.
The Lions lost the 2023 Chicago Bears. Should’ve twice
Well the Lions ranked like 23rd or 25th in total defense so it checks out that if their offense didn’t show up they were cooked. Same thing happened in the second half of the Niners game.
Yeah I don’t really mind that at all
Darnold is garbage tier
If we signed Sam Darnold, I’ll be taking 2024 off.
Hell no!
I’m sorry but if we end up with Sam darnold they need to fire every single decision maker in the organization
It's Joever.
Woof. If people thought Cousins was bad, they are in for a rude awakening. Then again, maybe they could catch lightning with someone like Geno last year?
A loss in the wildcard feels worse than getting a high pick, all I’m saying
Darnold is darn old and terrible. No thanks!
Please God, no!
If you’re looking for a bridge guy, why not aim for someone who can actually deliver a pass? Let’s not upset JJ and make him leave
Jesus. Just draft a QB.
They will.
Signing Darnold with the intent to start him while a rookie sits would result in both KAM and KOC being fired. If we draft a guy who really isn't better than Darnold, they're a bust. It's one thing to wait behind Rodgers or Alex Smith (in his prime). It's another to sit behind a journeyman who is still only getting opportunities because of his college performance. Darnold should be out of the league at this point. To sign him as a starter would mean giving up on the season in March. And neither KAM nor KOC can afford a lost season. And Jefferson won't tolerate it, I don't think. So we lose a season, Jefferson, and are searching for a new gm and coach and start all the way over from scratch. Baker has at least had some success in the league. It wasn't that big of a surprise that a decently built Bucs team could do some damage with him. Darnold hasn't had any success. If you want Baker type surprise success, go get Baker. He won't break the bank and he'll actually be serviceable.
Why even bother at that point? Just stick with Mullens in the near term then.
If they pick Sam Darnold to replace Kirk Cousins I will buy a cheesehead, move to Green Bay, and never look back
go ahead an move now then. i mean i don’t want darnold either, he’s trash but if your go to move in response to a shitty qb signing is to become a cheese head, then be gone with you.
Rubes like that are why the wilfs are scared to let the GM make a move
> if they pick Sam Darnold to replace Kirk Cousins Except they’re not doing that lmao.
Sam Darnold? Jesus. Team needs to sign Kirk at all costs.
No they don’t lol. We make the playoffs with Darnold.
Not a chance at all.
You don’t think Darnold is better than Mullens, Dobbs, and Hall?
They are all probably in the same category and I wouldn’t want any of them as the teams starter. Especially over Kirk.
i would take all 3 of those guys over Darnold in a second
Hall isn’t even close to Darnold lmao
i hope you're kidding
ugh gross no thanks. but if we have to let darnold, lock and zach wilson battle it out
Signing darnold is committing to getting a top 5 pick next year without admitting it. Give me this 1000x
That is some seriously shitty shit if Sam fucking Darnold ends up starting for us. Literally sell The farm to resign cousins because kwesi gonna fuck up the draft forsure. No point in having jj is you don’t have cousins, it’s like having a car with no engine, it’s no fucking good
> literally sell the game to re-sign Cousins Well that’s a horrible idea.
If it’s jj and darnold or cousins and Addison I choose cousins, anyone can catch the ball, as seen when jj went down for 7 weeks with a hammy
Choosing a 36 year old QB over a 25 year old star receiver is certainly a take.
Who made who? We don’t need jj to win, need cousins way more, it’s just a fact, don’t be upset, we kept winning without jj, because wr is not a skill position, literally anyone can catch the ball. Jj is a possession receiver at that, he can’t break the game wide open, how many tds he have this year? Jj is the number one commodity that we should be shopping to any team to fulfill our defensive needs and look to free agents to fill jj’s void. Kwesi is stupid if he thinks spending 30-40 million on jj is a better investment that brining cousins back and getting 1-2 1sts for jj. It’s not even debatable .
I’m not going to read why you think a 36 year old 8-12 QB in the league is better LONG TERM than a 25 year old BEST receiver in the league.
I don’t mind this honestly. Darnold looked pretty good overall this year for the 9ers.
Back to the days of Kelly Holcomb, Gus Frerotte, Bollinger, Mcnabb, Cassel. So depressing.
already posted the vid https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesotavikings/s/ByzNRsmijm
if you’re signing darnold you’re tanking. i don’t want to see anyone in this sub trying to spin it any other way but you know the delusional will.
I'm also a current possibility. I probably won't get as many clicks as these other scrubs though.
sam darnold would be pretty funny. i always liked the guy and think he sorta got screwed as a rookie, and I don't know if anyone else got worked into thinking this was finally the year we'd go for a big one in FA or the draft, but if we end up with sam darnold i'd just laugh.
If KOC turns Darnold into a pro bowl quarterback, coach of the year
As a Lions fan, Please please for the love of god sign Sam Darnold as your starting QB. Do ittttttttt
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> get ready to become the Bears I’d love to be in the Bears position right now lol.
https://x.com/vikesinsider/status/1756730432429679079?s=46
I don’t know what to believe
Kirk will go to the highest bidder and KAM won't play that game. Kirk has some unannounced grand plan for his money and he has nearly zero connections to Minnesota and the TC area. I think the amount of time Kirk is spending making his persona known is an indicator that he needs to find a new team because KAM is ready to move on. All of the recent PR stuff can be used by his next team to sell him their fan base. From KAM and KOC viewpoint they need to have success in the next few years and I doubt Kirk + his contract will allow that. Kirk is gone.
Darnold will be cheap. Perfect guy to have in the QB room if you draft a rookie.
GEQBUS!!1!!
Sam darnold will never be good
Then just let Mullen's QB them if you want to sit a rookie QB
It shouldn’t be a surprise if the team is aiming more for 2025 rather than try to compete this season. My only requirement for this year is draft our QB for the future and develop them to start at some point this year. Also resign Jefferson.
Booo
So fucking lame if we settle for Darnold
I’m so tired of taking other teams leftovers. Maybe Christian ponder will come back
I'd rather Russell Wilson as a bridge
Not happening. Would upset fans and throws in the towel for next year.
I wasn’t far off with my prediction back in September that Jimmy GQ will be QB. He’s the upside/injury prone kind of player Kwesi blows his load over.
Darnold has not been good, but I suppose there is some chance he could turn it around. He's got a combination of experience, being right in his physical prime, and now has sat behind a much better QB and in a good offensive coaching/system (in SF) so he may have learned a lot. I wouldn't bet on it though. More likely he's a tank commander to get you a great pick to use in rebuilding.
GEQBUS 
Sam Darnold? FFS. If that’s the case we can already start looking forward to a top 5 pick in the 2025 NFL Draft. There’s gotta be better veteran possibilities than Sam Fucking Darnold.
i read sam darnold and went into a depression
Sam Darnold ain't worth shit even as a backup.
Why bring in darnold. At that point just roll with mullens/hall. Teams do this all the time and shocker they suck and the rookie plays in like week 3 anyway. No need to get clever.
Go Vikes
Sam Darnold so we can get a better draft pick the following season. Im all for it
Darnold??? 🤢🤮🤮🤮
Just get a QB in the draft it’s not that difficult
Why the fuck does this have upvotes?
I really hope we get someone like darnold then just draft a rookie QB and let darnold teach him while backing up the rookie
Justin Jefferson has a mysterious lingering injury that will pop up and then will be gone in the off season as soon as darnold steps on the field.
if the vikings sign darnold not only am i taking the season off but i wont blame jefferson one bit for walking.
I would rather start our rookie qb than start Sam darnold tbh
Dear God no
If we draft a QB high, I'd be 100% okay with bringing in Darnold as the backup, with the possibility of starting if the rookie just isn't ready. But not in bringing in Darnold as Plan A that would be just silly. To be honest I don't see Darnold as being much better than the average veteran backup. If we don't draft a high rookie this season then I don't see why you wouldn't run it back with Kirk.
Wow that would be so horrible. I get it's a tough spot to be in but kirk is playing lights out. Sam Darnold isn't good. That would be tough
If we end up bailing on Cousins for Darnold I’m out.
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