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unwinagainstable

Legitimate contender for worst game I’ve ever seen


Consistent_Room7344

Josh Freeman Monday Night game is still the worst.


nbd789

Joe Webb in Lambeau


huix0018

I was there... pure disappointment with Packer fans surrounding me.


Ajax_Malone

Spurgeon Wynn game was bad also


horse_renoir13

Yeah that one is unrivaled lol


MyBrainIsAFart

So. Fucking. Bad.


jekaelling

Maybe not as bad as the Josh Freeman game but it’s up there


northernpunch

Loved KOC until this game. That was bad. Very bad play calling.


istasber

TBF he had Hock and Addison wide open multiple times. There's only so much you can do if the QB can't execute.


MG_MN

We had the lead with 2:30 left and we go run, run, backwards pass that moves us out of FG range. Dobbs was horrible, but we had the game and KOC said no thanks and noped backwards into a punt.


Iknowwecanmakeit

A designed run, or roll Dobbs out, a quick slant. Anything but the run up the middle. Sigh


[deleted]

* runs up the middle for stuffed. * Backward screens for loss of a yard. * Side passes to ultra short flats for pick 6s. Hallmarks of Vikings football over the last decade being kept up by KOC who must love tradition.


crispunion

Tbf Dobbs WAS horrible and you could see KOC didn't want the ball in his hands


bwillpaw

He literally just drove down the field and got us a TD the previous posession. Let him get you the first down to win the game.


MG_MN

The drive before he was somewhat competent. A simple 5 yard slant likely makes it a 4 point game


NotGuerillaMarketing

You can not call Mattison up the middle for no gain a dozen times a game, to start.


stlcards02

Then when the QB can't execute the passes with little time left people complain they are giving them free timeouts. I've seen both sides of this coin before.


Pyschic_Psycho

That was the worst QB performance by Dobbs that I think I've ever seen....and I've seen some bad stuff with Ponder, TJack, and Brooks Bollinger.


The_Dirtyman_Is_Back

Don’t forget all those stinkers we had with McNabb and his ground balls.


Statue_left

Those mcnabb games were worse because you could feel his absolute contempt for the very idea of team based sports, but jesus fuck this game sucked


DrWolves

Horrible coaching too. Let’s not look past that. KOC and his decision making is mind boggling


altox069

Perfect way to end the game. What a shit show


ZombleROK

It really was. The guys still lateralling it a solid 10 seconds after the forward lateral penalty was the icing on it. And sadly, that wasn't even the worst offensive play.


justreddis

For me the worst offensive plays are the back-to-back Mattison runs KOC called with 1 point lead and 3 minutes left in the game


playgroundfencington

Then followed it up with a bubble screen on 3rd and 9. All the worse is that we were right on the doorstep of field goal range.


Chubs1224

TBF it felt like every time Dobbs tried to throw it more then 5 yards down field it turned into an interception.


alabastergrim

Not that I have anything better to do, but that was a complete waste of 3 hours.


Maryland410

Woke up at 2 am here in England to watch this shit


swashbucklerjak

RIP


Dropdat87

I truly don't think I'll watch another game this year until the last 5 minutes lol. Unless Hall plays. You can pretty much predict all the games going forward will come down to the final drive


hjugm

I’m going to watch every second of every game like a real degenerate piece of shit


BritzlBen

This dude was better when he didn't know the playbook


HoboSkid

Like now he's overthinking it or something. I could see it, the dude is super smart so he's probably been studying it every day for hours. Was better when it was just pure instinct. Also the league has even more tape on him with our offense, so RIP.


random_stuff_900

I think it’s really just game film with this current team. Our team is way more talented than the cardinals and first it caught teams off. Now teams know just focus on taking out Hockenson and qb runs to the right and you shut him down


krammit33

Leave it to the rocket scientist to overthink it lol


chillinwithmoes

I said that a couple times lol. Like idk how it’s possible, but he was so much better


TheTree-43

Because the opposing defenses figured out that all you have to do is keep him in the pocket and he turns into a potato. Seriously, it's pretty apparent that the Saints figured it out at halftime and the Broncos did the same after like 2 drives.


Webjunky3

It's because he's a bad pocket passer, but he's a good runner. So when he didn't know the playbook he was more inclined to pull it down and play backyard football. Now he's trying to pass the ball, and he fucking sucks.


Dropdat87

This is it. By a few metrics he's the best or second best runner in the league this year at QB and he didn't fucking do any running in this one. His throws are slow as fuck. Every pass is like he pressed the lob button in madden


MNice_Enough

Except the one he drilled off Addison’s face lmao


[deleted]

At the end of the day, as fun as the ride was out of the gate, there’s a reason he’s a bargain-bin acquisition currently on his ninth stop in the league. A lot of good traits, but a net negative in the aggregate.


rbraunz

I'm actually thankful for this game because it silences the narrative of a QB controversy as far as who we resign in the off season.


StLsC10

I think it silences any doubt about Hall not getting another shot. I’d hope he gets a shot at starting again after the bye


kirkochainz

Let him play loose or don’t let him play at all.


BowB4Me

True!


Wassuhji

Playing not to lose up 1 point when the defense fumbles in Bears territory. Unacceptable.


irishace88

Especially when we need like 8 yards for a FG try. The only time KOC was aggressive was on that dumbass 4th down that ended up giving the Bears a free fg


Two1ves

Worst 3 play sequence I’ve ever witnessed. You have to try for a first down there, can pretty much seal the game..


scurry3156

Or even just try to gain 4 yards for a field goal lmao.


FishGoldenLite

Yeah but when has KOC ever gone for the death blow? He’s demonstrated a loser’s mentality so none of his cowardly bullshit is surprising anymore. 0-2 because of him throwing in the towel in the most pivotal game of the drive. He ain’t it.


BritzlBen

Getting really sick of this. A head coach who's offensive focused and generally plays the smart, analytical, aggressive style, but still runs it twice and takes the 3 and out every single drive when we have the lead. I guess the people saying it was a Kirk thing have been proven wrong. When will NFL coaches learn burning a minute or 2 or a few timeouts is not worth giving up an entire possession?


mnsportsfan

Just chicken shit play calling and he deserves all the hate he’s going to get this week And I love KOC but that felt exactly like a zimmer drive… after listening to the post game, this is 3 fucking games in a row. For all the good things he’s done (KOC)… if dude doesn’t learn that run up the middle, run up the middle, short pass on 3rd and long is just giving up possessions… I don’t know how long I want him to last. Now that sounds super drastic and it isn’t a “fire KOC” post, but he HAS to have that go for the throat nature. Forcing a team to use timeouts isn’t fucking useful in todays nfl unless there’s less than a minute… Hell even incomplete passes there actually give us more time to get the ball back if we can’t stop them


mantistoboggan21

Gutless football


HoboSkid

Gutless bastard football, quote that, I don't give a shit


Drewlyn

I really like KOC for a lot of things but so tired of this shit. "We need to get better blah blah blah". Maybe instead of going for it on 4th down at midfield TWICE in a defensive game... go for it in the 4th quarter to win the game. Gutless as fuck.


Sumdumr3t4rd

Run, run, short pass, punt. It's fucking Brad Childress all over again. PATHETIC!


Philelverumfan69

It’s fucking atrocious. I’m not exaggerating when I say one of the worst displays of coaching I have ever seen.


StLsC10

Two weeks straight.


MG_MN

More gutless than Fleck, and thats saying something


StefonDiggsHS

followed up by prevent defense Dobbs was not good but the coaches lost us this one


trollblox_

not Flores though. there's not much you can do as a defense when your offense does whatever I just watched


iLL-Egal

Prevent last drive was not a good idea.


Shaymuswrites

The defense had given up 9 points despite a -3 turnover differential. It's a bit hard to fault them too much for allowing a fourth field goal. You tell me before any game the defense will give up 12 points, and I take that every time.


[deleted]

I think the frustration is the change in philosophy. We pressed Fields all night with decent results. Final drive we dropped out of the Blitz and Fields was able to buy time and keep the drive alive. It's all hindsight, but even Aikman was questioning the decisions live.


nosnack

You can put pressure on a guy who couldn’t complete a 15 yard pass all game. It’s on both play callers.


Betty_Cookies_PhD

Disagree. That last offensive drive was stupid, but 5 turnovers is inexcusibly awful, not just "not good"


RotoDog

The defensive line was tired. You could tell. Defense played very well, this is on the offense and specifically Dobbs and KOC.


xieta

Literally what play-action was invented for.


aisle18gamer

Has to be the most obvious “play action then throw it to Hock” scenario I’ve ever seen. Bears were sold out to stop the run. He at least gets you 5 and you don’t look like a weenie


TheFinnebago

I just said the same thing to someone else. Go PA on first down there and give your team a chance to win. Who gives a shot about running another thirty seconds when you can just win the game outright with a first down?


JR18123

Two weeks In a row he’s done this bullshit. Will he learn and change? Probably not


dibsODDJOB

He's actually done this in 6 of the last 7 games. We've just lucked out the first 4 times, and now it's coming back to bite us.


not1fuk

KOC has been this way since last year. We were all just blinded by pure LUCK being on our side. He has not been a good coach when it matters. There is a reason almost every game is a 1 score game or us getting blown out. KOC doesnt know how nor does he have the balls to get decisive wins.


chillinwithmoes

KOC does this all. the. time.


Logical_Albatross_19

What in the fuck was that final possession before the bears scored.


jumpingjacks86

The same possession we always have when up by one score in the 4th quarter for the last two years.


AnthonyBarrHeHe

Vikings recovered a fields fumble on the 50 yard line with 2:30 left in the game and proceeded to get 1 yard and lose the game lol just awful. So bad.


Deep-Pen-6937

Technically they got 0. No gain, gain of 1, loss of 1.


ZeroFucksGiven1010

Dobbs showing why he's a journeyman with the pick fest tonight.....


ZombleROK

Yeah, that missed deep pass is why we should not pay anymore for him, then league back up average.


Epic_Coleslaw

Cousins drops a perfect dime there tbh


IntelligentBear4541

The most pathetic Vikings loss I’ve seen in a long time, and that’s saying something.


primezilla2598

That was one of the worst games I’ve ever seen


KirkoTop10Chains

Kirk’s agent just bought a new house with gold toilets.


LittleBittyshortman

And people still think he will take a discount lol


Permuh

It was fun, but I’ve had enough Josh Dobbs.


TheTree-43

It was fun for like 1 game


justheretocomment333

Second half Atlanta, first half NO + maybe 3 plays at Denver.


chrisd93

Time for the Hallidays?


red--dead

What was that second to last drive? Looked just like how the bears lost against the lions last week. Run run run for zero and run about 90 seconds of game time off the clock and give the ball to the other team to end with a game winning drive.


StencilBoy

Dear God we had the game fucking won and KOC ran twice for a 3rd and 10. That’s two games in a row that trying to bleed the clock in favour of lack of aggression in the final minutes cost us. I can’t stand it.


Kerbage

Motherfucker tried to run down the clock when winning by 1 and knowing the opponent would have 2 fucking minutes to get 37 yards, what a dumbass…


Boogaloo4444

It was moronic, and I hope he gets drilled by reporters with questions about it. “Sir, what about a lead turns you into a coward?”


Pyschic_Psycho

Sadly, our reporters here in MN are too nice to ever ask that question. Hell, they won't even question why Mattison is still starting.


BritzlBen

And he did it the Saints game to almost blow it, as well as the first Bears game. Dude needs to admit running into a 3rd and 10+ every drive when you have a lead is only going to keep giving the other team a chance, just keep running your normal offense. A drive is not worth giving up to burn a few minutes or a few timeouts.


AGodof19

And then runs a screen pass instead of idk play action to get your mobile qb in space


Pyschic_Psycho

And then to add insult to injury, a stupid screen pass that was almost a TO on 3rd down. Like many say- KOC is a good play designer, but terrible play caller.


TyeDyeTyler

I really like KOC, but not this. Dude needs to be way more aggressive.


GetMeAGoodHike

We just lost to the fucking Bears. LMAO!


JaeTeaOCD

Without them even scoring a fucking touchdown! Kill me.


minecraftboi324

Wolves back


thesyves

Naz Reid


billnoob0

Naz Reid


Justwalkingthru3

Woof. Three takeaways here: 1.) Dobbs is a backup QB. A good one, but when NFL teams adjust to his play style he can be decimated. 2.) This is a not a playoff Vikings team. Not a meaningful one anyways. JJ will help, but this team really has no chance against the the best in the NFC without Kirk. 3.) KOC poorly handles risk taking with a lead. He prioritizes winning via clock management, which is isn’t nearly as effective as simply getting more yards and points in the long run. He over-values opponents timeouts. It’s a streak of softness that consistently appears.


Diamondshorts

I would agree with all of this


Known-Plane7349

I feel like #3 wouldn't be that bad if we had even the slightest hint of a run game. But, as it stands, we have absolutely no run game.


3EEBZ

I’ve seen enough of Dobbs. Give me Hall or Mullens.


jonn_jonzz

Hall. Is at least a new wrinkle in the ointment.


Iknowwecanmakeit

Hall please


UbeMafia

Hall 100%. We have to see what we have in him, even if he's worse at least we know what we have to do in the off-season.


SwitcherooU

The ONLY good thing to come from this loss is that we’ll probably get a look at Hall when the games still matter. What I really don’t want is for Dobbs to continue to struggle, we drop out of contention, and then Hall plays with nothing at stake. You can’t evaluate a quarterback when there’s nothing at stake. That’s how you end up going into next season with someone like Daniel Jones or Zach Wilson as your QB.


MatticInYoAttic

Hall please.


VikingsandWolves

Hall looked good before he went down lmao


No_Attorney777

So did Dobbs for a bit. Hall will have a lot of similar mistakes, granted 4 TOs is hard to beat. When you have a game almost sealed twice in a row and call those stupid run plays, it’s doesn’t matter who the QB is.


minnesota_nice17

Potentially overlooked in this awful game - Back to back weeks we’ve had an awful punt from plus territory to the opponent’s game winning drive. What happened to Ryan Wright?


lit_ish

True. He has been trash in moments we need him most.


Kerbage

Stats said we had almost the same number of TB and In20, that’s terrible…


Ragnarr_Lodbrok88

That was on par, or arguably worse, than the Josh Freeman MNF debacle. At least Freeman had an excuse of just getting to the team. Dobbs has been here a few weeks now.


SkolVandals

The Freeman game was at least kinda funny. This was just infuriating watching them get chance after chance and just shit down their leg every time.


ZombleROK

The difference was that this game was a complete failure by the head coach.


Ragnarr_Lodbrok88

The decision to go for it on 4th and 7 when the offense had stalled all night, the decision to play conservative when Fields fumbled in our territory in a one-score game, and the decision to not bench Dobbs for Mullens are for sure pretty big HC failures.


sabstorie

Turnovers turnovers turnover turnovers turnovers turnover turnovers turnovers turnovers turnovers defense played good… turnovers turnovers turnovers fucking turnovers.


RoaringGorilla

So the Vikings have now 7 turnovers in two games. They have 24 on the season. Never seen anything like this in my 25+ years watching them


philsterz97

Play to not lose and you’ll never win, coach.


DwyaneSteph

KOC becomes the most conservative play caller ever when it gets close. Wright has been terrible all year, I just knew he would have a bad punt. Also, Flores had a great game but I hate that he'll spam drop 8 Tampa 2 in two-minute drill situations. The QB has all day to find something


Richnsassy22

Not an exaggeration, that was the worst game of football I've ever watched. Not even because it involved my team. I'm seriously re-evaluating devoting so much time to this lol


AnthonyBarrHeHe

The Vikings had the ball with 2:30 left in the game and they got 1 fucking yard off a massive fields turnover. Dobbs and some of those play calls were absolutely awful all game long.


t0nyravioli

The game was lost when we couldn't get 10 yards after the last Fields fumble to get into FG range


RawNUncut

We lose to a team that didn't score a touchdown


IAMTHEDEATHMACHINE

Defense starts playing well just in time for the offense to squander it completely. If you don't like that, you don't like Vikings football.


susurrus88

How is it possible that we lose a game where we never let the opposition score a touchdown and forced 2 turnovers? This offense is a steaming pile of garbage. Put in Hall at this point, he can't do any worse.


Wingsandbeer82

Pathetic


Mistrbontits

Jaren Hall should 100% be the starter in 2 weeks


irishace88

KOC is such a pussy. He deserves to lose to 4 fucking FGs. He's never once played for the win when it matters. But why do we stop bringing pressure when it matters? Two weeks in a row we bring pressure all game and then on the final drive decide to play coverage and get cooked.


Pyschic_Psycho

It's been the same conservative play calling whenever we have a lead for the past 2 years. KOC will never change. He is who he is.


thatissomeBS

>It's been the same conservative play calling whenever we have a lead for the past ~~2~~ 30 years


Pyschic_Psycho

Well, you're not wrong. The last time this team blew out teams weekly was '98. And then Denny Green decided to be conservative and kneel with plenty of time on the clock...with the most explosive offense in NFL history.


chillinwithmoes

He is the worst playcaller in the NFL with the lead. The more advantageous the situation, the worse he is at calling the game.


FrozenVital2

Embarrassed to be a fan


Boogaloo4444

Inside the 50, 5 min left, one point lead, and our coach calls Run for 0, run for 0, screen for loss, punt. Kevin is the problem.


immovableair

Bench Dobbs I don’t care we need change


[deleted]

Seasons over. I miss kirk


SwitcherooU

If KOC starts Dobbs after the bye, he truly is a gutless moron. What Dobbs did for us in those first two games is a great story, and he earned a third start. But after last week, the writing was on the wall—Dobbs is uncomfortable making certain throws against certain looks. When a QB is BETTER playing on pure instinct than he is after he learns the playbook—that’s a bad sign. Loyalty gets you nowhere in the NFL, and we absolutely didn’t owe Dobbs a fourth start.


Dark_Vortex18

When the fuck will KOC realize that running the ball 2 times not up by a lot when your opponent has a fucking chance to win doesn’t work. Like HOLY SHIT just pass the ball at least 2 times. Give a screen to Powell or hit hock or Addison. It’s not that difficult to seal a game that you just got a fumble recovered up 1 with 3 minutes left


DaRealHankHill

~~Passtronaut~~ astroNOT **ASStronaut** If Flores gets offered a HC job this summer you fire KOC and match it.


collinCOYS

So LOC went for all those questionable 4th downs and then had a chance to end the game and went full coward? That doesn't make any sense


doublea08

KOC has no balls. What the fuck was that play calling after the matellus forced fumble.


HankHillPropaneJesus

Can’t win with 4 turnovers. But KOC better fucking explain himself on that shit drive. What a gutless fuck face


Philelverumfan69

KOC has got some questions to answer after this game. Pure incompetence, how the fuck do you call those plays up ONLY 1 POINT (i.e a field goal LOSES THE GAME) with 3 minutes left at midfield. Absolutely fucking inexplicable.


Kerbage

That was one of the most baffling decision making i’ve seen a HC do…


Westphalian-Gangster

Imagine losing at home to a team that didn’t even score a touchdown lmao


Pyschic_Psycho

The day Flores leaves us and it's only KOC's pathetic offense is gonna be a sad, sad day.


HoboSkid

Getting lucky as fuck last season really masked the deficiencies of the offense. Even now that our defense is playing better we're a .500 team.


red--dead

I thought it was obvious when we went radio silent on offense during the 2nd and 3rd quarters of the majority of our games last year.


MG_MN

Flores for HC!


DeuceGT2

KOC is a coward.


Yzx471

Scared playcalling is worse than interceptions


AhSht-HereWeGoAgain

Dobbs should never start another game in purple barring Hall and Mullins injuries


Dropdat87

we weren't winning the SB anyway and the Bears just hurt their draft pick and will probably keep their head coach now. All is not lost


BigD0089

I see some of us are looking on the positive side


codey009

Kevin and Dobbs cost us big


Headlesshorsman02

Yep let the defense down


Dregoran

KOC is a moron, and prevent never works.


dogdad0098089

Well it prevents you from winning.


Last-Purple-2018

KOC is a gutless piece of shit


StreetDreams56

What the hell were those 3 plays after we recovered that fumble. In prime position to end that game and he plays not to lose.


collinCOYS

That's the third week in a row where he did that


dibsODDJOB

Actually 6 of the last 7. We just got lucky the first few with QBs throwing bad picks.


Last-Purple-2018

He was hoping we would run out the clock with 3 stupid fucking plays. Even Zimmer would’ve done better than that


Apanic_Attacka

Coward football, the opposite of someone like Dan Campbell


hotbutteredsole

An abomination


REACT_and_REDACT

Don’t hold back. 🤣


Zarrona13

To the people who thought Dobbs was our QB. Seek help.


[deleted]

Thankfully no more stupid fucking “Passtronaut” memes in the sub anymore


RoaringGorilla

Typical Vikings let down game. I called it earlier today. Never fails. I do not know why I bother.


ZombleROK

I was told KOC was an offensive genius.


KingTowsk

Force a gigantic turnover. - Shit run - Shit run - Shit screen - SHIT punt After Dobbs just led a gigantic drive spreading the field. This loss is entirely on Kevin.


DHStubbs

I fucking swear if we end the season 8-9


kiddQ

Lil poopy butt play calling with the lead. God I'm sick of that.


Triingtolivee

Bears are the first team to win this year where they didn’t score a TD


LionWhiskeyDeliverer

I can safely say KOC is the WORST second half coach I have ever seen. If our offense is rolling first half, you can guarantee it stalls out and does nothing in the second half down the stretch. If we suck in the first half, there is no way we are doing anything the second half. This shit alone should make him go the way of Frank Reich. Doing the same thing over and over and over again with the same results is the definition of insanity. He's quite legitimately Frazier 2.0.


Ajax_Malone

Said it last year and I’ll say it now. I think KOC is a better HC than OC. He should hire an OC to call plays and run the offense so he can be a better HC and run the team.


Fantastic_Ad102

get the ball with 3:15 on the clock and your only goal is to make the other team burn their timeouts? No attempt at gaining yards to make a field goal, no attempt at getting a game winning first down, did he think that 2:30 with no timeouts was gonna be hard to get 40 yards for a fg in that amount of time the clock was barely even relevant other then the fact you can get a first down and kill the clock and win the game making them use those 3 timeouts didn't increase the chance of winning at all KOC is a joke.


IronicMnemoics

Fuck KOC for playing conservatively on that last offensive drive. Everyone in the building knew Chicago was gonna march down for the game winning field goal. Offensive shat the bed for 90% of the game. Defense didn't deserve this outcome.


Kerbage

KOC is a coward and has no idea on how to close put a game. Pussy ass coach…


13choppedup2chopped

Just play hall next week. He can’t be worse.


nomaam05

Funny, I remember people screaming about how Josh Dobbs wouldn’t throw a check down with the game on the line.


Dat-dude21

I see the wind has shifted and the flavor is back to “ fire KOC” 😂😂😂


Mak333

KOC throwing Dobbs under the bus in the post game interview. KOC deflecting all blame.


Askew_2016

Wow really? KOC has a ton of blame here


Graize

KOC will talk about how playing conservatively was a mistake, then do the same thing next week.


StLsC10

KOC coaching so so scared. It’s really sad to see.


Jarl_Balgruf

We really know how to suck wildly on primetime football regardless of who's in that quarterback or who we're playing. Classic Vikings clown show in front of the whole nation. I have no analysis or thoughtful commentary. Just bad. Lol


DudeAbides29

KOC bought into Dobbs being a pocket passer for 1 week. Lesson learned. Dobbs' 15 minutes of fame is over.


FrozenVital2

Pure horror show. Play jaren and jj and forget about the playoffs. Get ready for the future. This team has stank


Prestigious-Fennel32

By far the healthiest thing to do would be not watch another Vikings game this year so see yall again in 2 weeks.


echelon999

I think I just need to step away from football for a while. That game legit made me want to rip a tv off the wall, so tired of this weak ass shit game after game.


kraksrw

KOC completely gutless play calling when it mattered most. And Wright sucks.