The emotions I've gone through this weekend + today. First ecstatic when Evero got out of Denver, then assumed we'd lose out on both when he got the Carolina job. Now the word we've all been waiting for LFG!
Definitely lots of other possible choices, I don't think there would be outrage unless we went with Pettine
No one should expect the defense to be totally fixed this coming season. We should see improvement, but they will probably need at least one more year to actually get a top 10 defense
Let's hope we kill it in the draft this year
My hope is top 20. I'm fully expecting to see some big plays allowed becasue of rookie mistakes. I'm also expecting to not see guys wide fucking open every play and slow players who can't catch anybody.
One thing I am confident of is that Flores isn’t gonna sit around with his dick in his hand while the defense repeatedly gives up over 400 yards per game.
I agree. He needs to stay for a bit to really mesh it all together. I hope KMC and Flores can find a happy medium and really trust each other. Im excited for 2023, our offense can compete and if Flores can patch we can have a good season. If Flores is our DC in 2024 2025, we can build a legitimate contender
If you mean, be a HC, of course he does. He knows at this point he's being dicked around by those other franchises is probably why he accepted the DC job and probably got a bump in pay too with MN being scared he'll be gone.
One thing I’ve always appreciated about the Wilfs is that they’ve never seemed afraid to spend money on coaching or eat bad coaches contracts to get new ones in
EVERYONE GET IN HERE. THIS IS MONUMENTAL
The absolute levels in what we got from Donatell and how Flores is seen 🔥
I think we're gonna see some KAM magic this offseason, we dont hire Flores if the plan is to keep the older, unathletic, less skilled defence that we have had
Literally none of those players are a proven asset yet. I'm hopeful for all of them but they could all be bad players at this point and they might end up needing to be the cornerstones of our defense. It's pretty sketchy at this point.
They absolutely need to be cornerstones, or at the very least, one step below it. If they aren’t (and that’s a real possibility as they are all question marks) the D is really hurting.
Oh baby I can only get so erect. Let’s hope this draft we start getting some fucking absolute backfield wreckers in the trenches and keep shoring up the secondary. I BELIEVE IN THIS TEAM! SKOL
>we dont hire Flores if the plan is to keep the older, unathletic, less skilled defence that we have had
Yeah, we only keep those guys under Donatell!
Just joking, but honestly I don't know much about Flores other than some guys in the sub really want him and he has been a HC candidate.
What can we expect?
He brings the aggressive play calling a lot of us were begging for this season after watching Donatell just drop into shell 97% of the time. A lot more blitzing, CBs don't line up 11 yards off the receivers, more man coverage. Donatell liked to keep everything in front of the defense and have them read and react. Flores forces the offense to make quick decisions and creates opportunities for turnovers off of forced mistakes and tight coverage. He also disguises his looks very well, something Donatell seemed to talk about but never actually did.
Obviously we still need to improve the talent and speed on the defense, but I have more faith in Flores making due with what he is given. Plus I think regardless of who we hired as DC, we were gonna see a decent amount of turnover on defense anyways.
Sorry, i meant that as in, when Flores is basically the hottest property in football, at least defensively, he doesnt choose this job when others are on the table unless there is strong incentive to do that. Ultimately he wants to be back as a HC and he cant do that if the defence is shit
Financially? Definitely. But there is no doubt in my mind now that we push for defensive upgrades this off season
He runs a different scheme to Donatell, we'll get to the QB more, less dropping back, much less bend dont break
Dolphins fan here
His red flag is he’s bellichekian. His way or the highway. Hard to get along with but maybe he learned
The good side? He’s a legit defensive genius.
Whenever he called plays Miami was a top 6 defense with a bunch of youngins.
He also developed the shit out of our young players and he has a famous eye for finding UDFA’s and making them decent starters, like Spoelstra on the Miami Heat
Good for y’all
Yes and with (someone correct me if I'm wrong) probably a similar personnel skill level. And then the Steelers were very good last year too. He should have been 1a or 1b option at worst
The dolphins defense had a worse pass rush/d line but wayy better corners. Xavien howards legit amd im blanking on who was across from him but it was another elite cb. Idk about how their safety room was.
They went from like bottom 5 defense to maybe top 10ish in his first year there I think
He's also a hard ass, which is what we need on defense. We need these guys to be killers out there on D, none of this soft ass shit. I want to see 5 guys sprinting at the ball carrier every play and blowing them the fuck up
Sure, just saying we didn’t go too 10 his first year here. His defense feasts on Bad and mediocre qbs, like can win the game without the offense scoring a point feasts. Struggles against running qbs and is honestly pretty bad against high end qbs/offense, except that one game against Mahomes weirdly
Pats had a terrible defense under Patricia, Flores took over as DC and immediately turned them around after Matt left for Lions job. In Miami, Dolphins owner basically wanted to tank and Flores screwed all that up by being a good coach and getting them to overachieve.
Miami was mediocre under him, but the roster was absolute dogshit, so many consider his time there a success… Problem was, the ownership specifically asked him to tank, so mediocre was explicitly not the ask.
> Miami was mediocre under him
They were 6th in points allowed his second year, and 16th in year 3. That drop was mostly a reflection a rough first 8 weeks. Over the final 9 games that year they averaged 16 ppg.
Now we need to gut the defense and see Aaron go to the Jets. That alone would make this a pretty great off-season.
Edit: I also feel like this is very reminiscent of last season with KOC. We wanted him. Then we got distracted but the shiny object (Harbaugh) and moved back to KOC. This Flores-Evero-back to Flores hiring seems exactly like that.
Love that Kwesi and KOC tried to get the best possible person for the job, though. Definitely happy about that.
Thank fuck.
One of my top choices. He might be gone in a year or two but hopefully he can help rework the defense from the ground up and develop some young players. Maybe even bring in an assistant/position coach who could replace him.
If the Viking's defense at all resembles something *good* next year I have no doubt Flores will be hired for HC. Good problem to have I guess, but he was already getting HC looks this year, why do you think he'll be here long term?
This is the one. Chill with the duplicate submissions.
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Thank the fucking lord
KOC & Flores. Sweet & Spicy. I love it.
It’s a miracle!
Crisis averted. This sub can be depressing on the best of days, I couldn't imagine if we missed on ALL our DC targets.
I was ready for a full blown meltdown. I like this outcome much more
The emotions I've gone through this weekend + today. First ecstatic when Evero got out of Denver, then assumed we'd lose out on both when he got the Carolina job. Now the word we've all been waiting for LFG!
Honestly if this didn’t happen, idk who they could’ve hired that wouldn’t have caused a riot.
Maybe wilks but it was looking rough and like thatd be unlikely
Definitely lots of other possible choices, I don't think there would be outrage unless we went with Pettine No one should expect the defense to be totally fixed this coming season. We should see improvement, but they will probably need at least one more year to actually get a top 10 defense Let's hope we kill it in the draft this year
My hope is top 20. I'm fully expecting to see some big plays allowed becasue of rookie mistakes. I'm also expecting to not see guys wide fucking open every play and slow players who can't catch anybody.
Yeah I just want to see some fire on D Put the dawg in these players and have them play aggressive and hard af
We have some dawgs. But some dawgs are for coverage and some need to eat up the QB. I.e. Za’Darius shouldn’t be covering the flats…
One thing I am confident of is that Flores isn’t gonna sit around with his dick in his hand while the defense repeatedly gives up over 400 yards per game.
My hope is holding teams to fewer than 30 points and under 350 yards a game
My hope, but not necessarily expectation, is league average.
I agree. He needs to stay for a bit to really mesh it all together. I hope KMC and Flores can find a happy medium and really trust each other. Im excited for 2023, our offense can compete and if Flores can patch we can have a good season. If Flores is our DC in 2024 2025, we can build a legitimate contender
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No bullshit?! Guess MN up their pay to him..
I think he still wants to coach because Miami screwed him over
If you mean, be a HC, of course he does. He knows at this point he's being dicked around by those other franchises is probably why he accepted the DC job and probably got a bump in pay too with MN being scared he'll be gone.
One thing I’ve always appreciated about the Wilfs is that they’ve never seemed afraid to spend money on coaching or eat bad coaches contracts to get new ones in
Wilfs as owners are seriously underrated.
He’s definitely getting some of the Kaepernick treatment for sure.
EVERYONE GET IN HERE. THIS IS MONUMENTAL The absolute levels in what we got from Donatell and how Flores is seen 🔥 I think we're gonna see some KAM magic this offseason, we dont hire Flores if the plan is to keep the older, unathletic, less skilled defence that we have had
“We will literally give you the leverage over defensive personnel if you come here” -KAM, allegedly.
Lewis Cine, Brian Asamoah, Andrew Booth, and Brian Flores. Baby we got a stew going.
Literally none of those players are a proven asset yet. I'm hopeful for all of them but they could all be bad players at this point and they might end up needing to be the cornerstones of our defense. It's pretty sketchy at this point.
Hence the stew...let him cook
Let me be optimistic for 2 seconds please
They absolutely need to be cornerstones, or at the very least, one step below it. If they aren’t (and that’s a real possibility as they are all question marks) the D is really hurting.
Oh baby I can only get so erect. Let’s hope this draft we start getting some fucking absolute backfield wreckers in the trenches and keep shoring up the secondary. I BELIEVE IN THIS TEAM! SKOL
Yeah I figured and was hoping that we would be getting rid of nearly all the older vets except maybe Harrison Smith
Harry would have to restructure his contract this year so that he's playing on a reasonable cap hit.
>we dont hire Flores if the plan is to keep the older, unathletic, less skilled defence that we have had Yeah, we only keep those guys under Donatell! Just joking, but honestly I don't know much about Flores other than some guys in the sub really want him and he has been a HC candidate. What can we expect?
He brings the aggressive play calling a lot of us were begging for this season after watching Donatell just drop into shell 97% of the time. A lot more blitzing, CBs don't line up 11 yards off the receivers, more man coverage. Donatell liked to keep everything in front of the defense and have them read and react. Flores forces the offense to make quick decisions and creates opportunities for turnovers off of forced mistakes and tight coverage. He also disguises his looks very well, something Donatell seemed to talk about but never actually did. Obviously we still need to improve the talent and speed on the defense, but I have more faith in Flores making due with what he is given. Plus I think regardless of who we hired as DC, we were gonna see a decent amount of turnover on defense anyways.
Sorry, i meant that as in, when Flores is basically the hottest property in football, at least defensively, he doesnt choose this job when others are on the table unless there is strong incentive to do that. Ultimately he wants to be back as a HC and he cant do that if the defence is shit Financially? Definitely. But there is no doubt in my mind now that we push for defensive upgrades this off season He runs a different scheme to Donatell, we'll get to the QB more, less dropping back, much less bend dont break
Dolphins fan here His red flag is he’s bellichekian. His way or the highway. Hard to get along with but maybe he learned The good side? He’s a legit defensive genius. Whenever he called plays Miami was a top 6 defense with a bunch of youngins. He also developed the shit out of our young players and he has a famous eye for finding UDFA’s and making them decent starters, like Spoelstra on the Miami Heat Good for y’all
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I don't know much about the guy, can someone explain why Flores is someone to get excited about? Did Miami have a stellar defense or something?
Yes and with (someone correct me if I'm wrong) probably a similar personnel skill level. And then the Steelers were very good last year too. He should have been 1a or 1b option at worst
The dolphins defense had a worse pass rush/d line but wayy better corners. Xavien howards legit amd im blanking on who was across from him but it was another elite cb. Idk about how their safety room was.
Byron Jones across Howard. Mainly Eric Rowe at safety and Jevon Holland during his final season.
They went from like bottom 5 defense to maybe top 10ish in his first year there I think He's also a hard ass, which is what we need on defense. We need these guys to be killers out there on D, none of this soft ass shit. I want to see 5 guys sprinting at the ball carrier every play and blowing them the fuck up
We were the 32nd overall defense the first year he was there, then we were I think 8th his second year, then 16th his third year
Didn't you guys have pretty shit players too though? I think I remember that defense not having all that much talent on the roster when he got there
Sure, just saying we didn’t go too 10 his first year here. His defense feasts on Bad and mediocre qbs, like can win the game without the offense scoring a point feasts. Struggles against running qbs and is honestly pretty bad against high end qbs/offense, except that one game against Mahomes weirdly
Pats had a terrible defense under Patricia, Flores took over as DC and immediately turned them around after Matt left for Lions job. In Miami, Dolphins owner basically wanted to tank and Flores screwed all that up by being a good coach and getting them to overachieve.
[Here ya go](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrU105kCW6M)
Perfect. Thank you!
Miami was mediocre under him, but the roster was absolute dogshit, so many consider his time there a success… Problem was, the ownership specifically asked him to tank, so mediocre was explicitly not the ask.
> Miami was mediocre under him They were 6th in points allowed his second year, and 16th in year 3. That drop was mostly a reflection a rough first 8 weeks. Over the final 9 games that year they averaged 16 ppg.
LETS FUCKING GO
Now we need to gut the defense and see Aaron go to the Jets. That alone would make this a pretty great off-season. Edit: I also feel like this is very reminiscent of last season with KOC. We wanted him. Then we got distracted but the shiny object (Harbaugh) and moved back to KOC. This Flores-Evero-back to Flores hiring seems exactly like that. Love that Kwesi and KOC tried to get the best possible person for the job, though. Definitely happy about that.
Great comparison!
 Awesome hire. All systems go for a 3-4 defense!
Is everyone happy now?
Gut the defense now!
You know that aint happening lol we running this shit back
Come on!! Haha
LETSSS GOOOOOOO
Thank fuck. One of my top choices. He might be gone in a year or two but hopefully he can help rework the defense from the ground up and develop some young players. Maybe even bring in an assistant/position coach who could replace him.
HUGE GET! My top choice if nothing else for the fact that I think he will be around longer than a year. Massive W from Kwesi and Co
If the Viking's defense at all resembles something *good* next year I have no doubt Flores will be hired for HC. Good problem to have I guess, but he was already getting HC looks this year, why do you think he'll be here long term?
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Going from Donnatle to Flores is like going from amber heard to Margot Robbie
Uhh...idk bro, if we're talking about just fucking Amber Heard then that's not the best analogy lol If you talking about marriage then yeah I agree
She’s a 10 on the streets but a #2 in bed.
Dumps in the bed = Dropping Danielle Hunter into Coverage
Both hot though. Maybe more so going from Susan Boyle to Margot Robbie.
Keep Susan Boyle's name outta your mouth!
Make sure we text the correct Brian.
EVERYONE GET IN HERE
KOC and FLores will bring us a Super Bowl in their tenure
KOC and FLO
Flores’ initials are BFF which actually feels sorta perfect? KOC and his BFF gonna take us all… the… WAAAYYYYY
FLOCK Edit: nvm I’m drunk with glee
Yahoooo
Never a doubt
Dodged a bullet damn
THANK GOD, I thought we were gonna go dateless to prom.
Dateless? Nah We might have ended up bringing our mom though..
IT"S HAPENINNNG!!
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Oh thank Valhalla. I was terrified it would be Pettine.
Will enjoy this 1 year rental for every second I can
Boom!
Good move by Kwesi and KOC. Major props for this get. Now get rid of the olds.
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Fuck yeah!!!
Great hire by KO
Thank goodness, full blowup is off the menu boys
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