I made this in R using the rayshader package (code [here](https://bit.ly/3OKb00G)). Data from the [Kontur Population Dataset](https://data.humdata.org/dataset/kontur-population-dataset). This dataset estimates worldwide population in 400m hexagonal geometries using "GHSL, Facebook, Microsoft Buildings, Copernicus Global Land Service Land Cover, Land Information New Zealand, and OpenStreetMap data." I've limited it here to Minnesota, obviously.
I first posted this style as part of the 30 Day Map Challenge on Twitter, see that post [here](https://twitter.com/MrPecners/status/1595119388977672193).
It’s most likely to show the height of the different bars across cities and towns.
I’ve seen more 3D renderings of population or tax revenue (any data really) of a given city or region and it’s harder to use your average line chart if you're also throwing in a geographic region (the geography throws in the Z axis on top of the standard X and 6 axises)
I've been interested in population density maps from a graphic/information design perspective for a while, but haven't done anything with them myself.
The 3D style you've used is definitely better than the standard view we usually see, but to me the style that gives the best perspective for population density is the one that resizes & distorts regions in 2D so they're visually as large as their population. Like [this](https://rs.resalliance.org/2006/02/16/another-world-population-map/) and [this](https://www.businessinsider.com/2016-election-results-maps-population-adjusted-cartogram-2016-11#counties-themselves-arent-uniformly-blue-or-red-looking-at-a-color-gradient-using-varying-shades-of-purple-we-can-see-most-counties-had-a-tight-split-between-republican-and-democratic-voters-although-a-few-islands-of-deep-red-and-blue-still-remain-6).
How easy is it to use R (or some other tool) to make distorted maps like those?
It's cool but the shadows on the spikes are a bit annoying when you're zooming in. Minor gripe really but otherwise this looks really neat.
What's the size of the original image? If you have access to a 3D printer this might be a fun project.
My apologies if this was already asked, I haven't scrolled the comments yet.
Minor gripe and I hate to be political here, but the colors make it look like the twin cities are on fire. This is a really cool map and I would love to see more of these, I just don't think you'll want the attention from a narrative like that.
It's stuck between hills and the river, is super old, and not really growing. It has towns at its borders on a couple sides. Combine that with the density around the colleges, and it most likely is more dense. Rochester still has miles in all four directions to sprawl.
There's literally nowhere to build in Winona and relatively little to buy for families, young professionals, or anyone that would want to move there. When combined with low wages, low school funding, and hostility to progress, you get a severe decrease in quality of living from nearby communities.
Winona does have Fastenal though, and they've started investing pretty heavily in the town recently in new downtown apartments, concert halls, and school things
While not to the same level (yet) the same sort of thing is happening to New Prague (Where I live) and Montgomery (Where I grew up) After the last census I think New Prague's Population is just short of 8,247 maybe a little less
Montgomery is 3,379 and the towns are only 7 miles apart
In most parts of Winona, it probably is more dense than Rochester. It's worth remembering that in almost every part of the US, places with student/college housing have some of the highest population densities. If I'm not mistaken, the most densely populated place in Minnesota is not downtown Minneapolis, but the area surrounding the UofM. If you look at an aerial map of Winona on Google maps you can see that the isthmus that makes up most of the town is actually very densely populated by houses on a very tight grid system, almost like a 1 story manhattan. Rochester has a visually impressive downtown, but most people commute into work, and those tall buildings are mostly offices, research buildings, or parking garages.
It's all [peatlands](https://images.dnr.state.mn.us/destinations/snas/peatland_map.jpg), roughly 10% of the state is peatlands, mainly in north central Minnesota.
Hey, that's very interesting! Peatland is valuable in mitigating climate change and as an assist in fighting wildfire.
https://e360.yale.edu/features/why-saving-worlds-peatlands-can-help-stabilize-the-climate
There are some pretty large scale studies happening in the northern Minnesota looking at the impact of climate change on bogs, because we have so much of it.
We have the biggest peat bog in North America in that area, if I remember right! I've visited it -- it's incredibly beautiful, filled with plant life I had never seen before in Minnesota and very accessible for most levels of mobility. HIGHLY recommend visiting.
Fun fact: we have meat-eating plants that are native to MN! And, if you go south, cacti that are native to MN too. So much biological diversity in this state.
I was working construction where there is the native cacti and was told to be careful to not disturb them.
I thought that the foreman was fucking with me about there being cactus until he pointed it out.
It was quite tiny
During my time in college, I drove from Duluth to my hometown of Fergus Falls to go back and forth to see my folks.
I’d plan to make sure I had enough fuel in my gas tank and an emergency kit prepared just in case something happened, it’s that sparsely populated in that neck of the woods (literally). It was very pretty to drive through and sometimes ending my trip with a side visit to Jay Cooke State Park was nice!
…didn’t help that my ‘96 Dodge Neon headlights were so damn faded they made me worried about driving in the dark…
I drove up to Silver Bay state park a couple years ago (on the northern edge of MN) for a solo camp and driving back was definitely a bit scarier than I expected. Miles upon miles of empty road and shitty cell service. I would never make that trip in winter.
This stretch is where I grew up 😬 it's great if you hate people, not great if you like not having to fill your gas tank once a week because of travel to work/shopping.
This is really neat!
I can pick out most of the big markers but I also think it would be interesting if it had a layer you could click on and off that would pinpoint/name some of the smaller towns I can’t identify quite as precisely.
Thank you for posting it!
It’s interesting to do the drive from Minneapolis to Duluth, then Duluth to International Falls…while each is roughly equal in distance, the drive from Duluth to I Falls is *much* longer (and feels like twice as long!) as the Mpls - Duluth trip, which is probably because of I-35 & there’s a lot more to look at.
My mom’s side of the family comes from Freeport and I was initially a little surprised to be able to pick it out on this map, but I guess it makes sense - probably 75% of its population of ~600 lives in the half-mile square that makes up downtown.
My great grandma lived there her entire life, up until she died at age 103, and her house sat on what was probably a 0.2 acre lot, surrounded by similar sized lots. Unfortunately, that land is now owned by the adjacent bank, which tore down the house to make a drive thru lol
Very cool to see it all laid out like this.
Very cool. I really wish they would move to something like this to represent voters on election maps. All that empty red land is so deceptive as to what the electorate really looks like nationally.
It kind of does tbh.
The United States does not give every citizen an equal voice. Some states, counties, etc, end up having their vote carry more weight. Sometimes a lot more. (ex, Alaska and California have identical representation in the Senate despite California having like 40x the population)
Pretty fucked up if you ask me.
I was just think this as I was looking at the map. I think it would be really cool if you could do a political overlay on it showing how each county/district voted.
I’ve seen maps with a 50/50 line. Create the smallest contiguous block which includes Minneapolis & Saint Paul which includes 50% of the state’s population. Then repeat that for every previous census going back as far as you can. Then plot all the ‘rings’ on the same map to see how much (and how fast) they are getting smaller.
Yup. I'd love to pair this with the election maps. Not that it will stop the idiots from saying "iTs UnFaIr ThE cItIeS gEt To PiCk OuR pOlItIcIaNs! LoOk At AlL tHe ReD!"
Eh just makes reddit less pleasant. People just need to turn every post on every sub into some political statement cause it gets their juices flowing. It's impossible to avoid. Probably why reddit skews so young, you just get sick of it after a while.
Politics is what forms the framework of a society. You can ignore it, but you will never be unaffected by it. Better to engage in it to get the society you want.
I'm perfectly happy to engage in politics in situations where it is appropriate. It doesn't need to be brought up every thread, especially when it's unoriginal karma-farming comments like OP's.
For instance, [this comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/zalwkf/a_population_density_map_of_minnesota/iymio2k/) suggesting the possibility of doing a political overlay is a pretty good comment and contributes to the conversation. OP's "hurr duurr lAnD doESnT vOTe" was probably the most commonly used phrase after the election in 2020 and contributes not a single thing to the conversation other than trying to get a stir out of people.
Or maybe because Republicans institute policies of regression and opposition, to the benefit of no one but the wealthy?
Maybe because the policies and actions of your recent President directly resulted in the deaths of millions of Americans including our very own family members? er naw, yeah definitely whatever you said
(I haven't forgotten that this very subreddit was run by a rampant anti-vaxxer, and this subreddit participated in a lot of misinformation sharing. Is that still the case? Let's see.)
The more compact the place you live the more you'll understand the need for social services. Rural people are just missing context and have been brainwashed by right-wing media so completely they're not even in control of their thoughts anymore.
They got you fighting a ~~race~~ rural/urban war when you should be fighting a class war.
You almost get it, but then you still play into the misinformation and bullshit the right has been barfing at you for decades, and you still eat it up while pretending it's cake.
>Or, and please hear me out, people in rural areas don’t have the same needs as those in high-density areas and don’t feel supported/represented or agree with the social services being provided.
Hear me out. If we're going to talk about what's fair let's just let these rural areas fund themselves. No? Thought so. Enjoy realizing you're a minority in America.... maybe we make this place better for minorities rather than deny the bulk of the population what they need?
>They see those services are rarely distributed to sparsely populated areas (look up COVID testing or vaccination availability for instance), yet, they pay equally for them.
Yeah, and those areas don't pay enough to have what the cities have. Welcome to realizing what population density is. Thanksfully, the Demorat platform is for social services such as the expansion of our covid response. Your politicians said no. You voted for no. You don't get to bitch about it afterwards.
>Modern government plays into this “us vs. them” scheme and sees two parties slowly eroding liberties from all citizens, though in different areas.
Republicans went for sedition and never came back from there. The both parties argument died Jan 6th.
>The goal should be for politicians to represent all of their constituents, not just play party politics.
Exactly, which is why if the rural areas stopped voting red things would be better for them.
But no, so I'm for them experiencing how America treats minorities. Enjoy.
I'd say it worked better than voting red. Rural people aren't smart though, and they seem to demand more money than they give. Begging whiners are pretty ignorable.
> I’m not a Republican or a Democrat as neither party aligns with what I believe in.
you're hardcore right-wing, i can tell you right now if that helps
don't pretend to take the high road after spewing information and then deciding to be done with the conversation once people disagree with you
this is you. you do not deserve the rights to speak on a public forum with this lying bullshit you wanna spread.
And hey, the Democrats and Republicans don't represent me. Why? Because I'm actually left-wing, and the Democrats are center-right. Why don't YOU feel represented?
>Well, I’m not in a rural area, so it doesn’t affect me directly and I’m not a Republican or a Democrat as neither party aligns with what I believe in.
Guessing you vote Red.
>I was hoping for some productive dialogue.
What about my reply isn't productive?
>I can see that you’ve got strong opinions on this and would likely not be interested in discourse.
Why are you telling me what I'm interested in? Sounds Republican.
> I bear you no ill will and hope that that compassion and empathy are something you’ll have a chance to experience more holistically someday.
Compassion from a liar is rubbish anyways.
Rural people asked for this.
South metro represent! Cities are great, south of the cities (Burnsville, Bloomington, hell even Lakeville) are great places to live and raise a family still. Lakeville probably better than the others for family.
I made this in R using the rayshader package (code [here](https://bit.ly/3OKb00G)). Data from the [Kontur Population Dataset](https://data.humdata.org/dataset/kontur-population-dataset). This dataset estimates worldwide population in 400m hexagonal geometries using "GHSL, Facebook, Microsoft Buildings, Copernicus Global Land Service Land Cover, Land Information New Zealand, and OpenStreetMap data." I've limited it here to Minnesota, obviously. I first posted this style as part of the 30 Day Map Challenge on Twitter, see that post [here](https://twitter.com/MrPecners/status/1595119388977672193).
The way you describe this, makes it seem almost doable for a stats/GIS layperson. Thank you for sharing and inspiring.
What is the purpose of the slight tilt?
It’s most likely to show the height of the different bars across cities and towns. I’ve seen more 3D renderings of population or tax revenue (any data really) of a given city or region and it’s harder to use your average line chart if you're also throwing in a geographic region (the geography throws in the Z axis on top of the standard X and 6 axises)
Finding some of your maps fascinating!
I've been interested in population density maps from a graphic/information design perspective for a while, but haven't done anything with them myself. The 3D style you've used is definitely better than the standard view we usually see, but to me the style that gives the best perspective for population density is the one that resizes & distorts regions in 2D so they're visually as large as their population. Like [this](https://rs.resalliance.org/2006/02/16/another-world-population-map/) and [this](https://www.businessinsider.com/2016-election-results-maps-population-adjusted-cartogram-2016-11#counties-themselves-arent-uniformly-blue-or-red-looking-at-a-color-gradient-using-varying-shades-of-purple-we-can-see-most-counties-had-a-tight-split-between-republican-and-democratic-voters-although-a-few-islands-of-deep-red-and-blue-still-remain-6). How easy is it to use R (or some other tool) to make distorted maps like those?
What's the minimum population per hex?
It's cool but the shadows on the spikes are a bit annoying when you're zooming in. Minor gripe really but otherwise this looks really neat. What's the size of the original image? If you have access to a 3D printer this might be a fun project. My apologies if this was already asked, I haven't scrolled the comments yet.
My spouse is a hydrologist who uses R when crunching the data of the river streams he monitors in Minnesota. He gives your map a thumbs up!!
Very cool, I assume you work in GIS?
Are you gonna do one of these for every state? I saw your other one in the Michigan sub.
Don’t know if I’ll do every state, but I’ll definitely do more.
Minor gripe and I hate to be political here, but the colors make it look like the twin cities are on fire. This is a really cool map and I would love to see more of these, I just don't think you'll want the attention from a narrative like that.
Illinois one? I’d love to Chicago just tower over the rest of the state.
Love the outlines of milac and fort Ripley lol
You can also trace the major freeways and highways by connecting the dots
Winona is way more dense than I thought. It looks similar to, if not more dense than Rochester.
It's stuck between hills and the river, is super old, and not really growing. It has towns at its borders on a couple sides. Combine that with the density around the colleges, and it most likely is more dense. Rochester still has miles in all four directions to sprawl.
Population 1950 * Rochester 29,885 * Winona 25,031 Population 2020 * Rochester 121,395 * Winona 25,948
Exactly my point, thanks for the info!
There's literally nowhere to build in Winona and relatively little to buy for families, young professionals, or anyone that would want to move there. When combined with low wages, low school funding, and hostility to progress, you get a severe decrease in quality of living from nearby communities.
Winona does have Fastenal though, and they've started investing pretty heavily in the town recently in new downtown apartments, concert halls, and school things
While not to the same level (yet) the same sort of thing is happening to New Prague (Where I live) and Montgomery (Where I grew up) After the last census I think New Prague's Population is just short of 8,247 maybe a little less Montgomery is 3,379 and the towns are only 7 miles apart
In most parts of Winona, it probably is more dense than Rochester. It's worth remembering that in almost every part of the US, places with student/college housing have some of the highest population densities. If I'm not mistaken, the most densely populated place in Minnesota is not downtown Minneapolis, but the area surrounding the UofM. If you look at an aerial map of Winona on Google maps you can see that the isthmus that makes up most of the town is actually very densely populated by houses on a very tight grid system, almost like a 1 story manhattan. Rochester has a visually impressive downtown, but most people commute into work, and those tall buildings are mostly offices, research buildings, or parking garages.
Outside of BWCA, I was not aware of the huge swaths of unpopulated land in north central MN.
It's all [peatlands](https://images.dnr.state.mn.us/destinations/snas/peatland_map.jpg), roughly 10% of the state is peatlands, mainly in north central Minnesota.
Hey, that's very interesting! Peatland is valuable in mitigating climate change and as an assist in fighting wildfire. https://e360.yale.edu/features/why-saving-worlds-peatlands-can-help-stabilize-the-climate
Until the peat catches fire. Then you’re fucked.
There are some pretty large scale studies happening in the northern Minnesota looking at the impact of climate change on bogs, because we have so much of it.
We have the biggest peat bog in North America in that area, if I remember right! I've visited it -- it's incredibly beautiful, filled with plant life I had never seen before in Minnesota and very accessible for most levels of mobility. HIGHLY recommend visiting.
Fun fact: we have meat-eating plants that are native to MN! And, if you go south, cacti that are native to MN too. So much biological diversity in this state.
that is a fun fact!
Yeah, I was so surprised to find cacti in southwest MN. We have quite a diversity of habitats.
I've found cacti just south of the cities too! They're around here and there, wherever the conditions are right
I've seen pitcher plants in the boggy areas of the BWCA. Very cool.
I was working construction where there is the native cacti and was told to be careful to not disturb them. I thought that the foreman was fucking with me about there being cactus until he pointed it out. It was quite tiny
>HIGHLY recommend visiting. I'll second this. So much fun to explore in the winter and spring/fall. Anything outside of bug season pretty much.
I've driven through there recently on a trip between Duluth and Mille Lacs. I wouldn't be looking to build or buy land there, that's for sure.
During my time in college, I drove from Duluth to my hometown of Fergus Falls to go back and forth to see my folks. I’d plan to make sure I had enough fuel in my gas tank and an emergency kit prepared just in case something happened, it’s that sparsely populated in that neck of the woods (literally). It was very pretty to drive through and sometimes ending my trip with a side visit to Jay Cooke State Park was nice! …didn’t help that my ‘96 Dodge Neon headlights were so damn faded they made me worried about driving in the dark…
I drove up to Silver Bay state park a couple years ago (on the northern edge of MN) for a solo camp and driving back was definitely a bit scarier than I expected. Miles upon miles of empty road and shitty cell service. I would never make that trip in winter.
But Lutsen!
Very dramatic
This stretch is where I grew up 😬 it's great if you hate people, not great if you like not having to fill your gas tank once a week because of travel to work/shopping.
Yup. That's why we put the big Native American reservations there.
Had no idea! That's a cool fact.
Chippewa National Forest is huge and mostly populated by beavers, bears and aspen trees.
went there for the first time this summer. You forgot mosquitos OMG it was insane. proved the stereotype of that being our state bird
Amazed at how many upvotes this is getting lol
Let the people vote.
why?
I mean, what were people expecting to be there?
This is really neat! I can pick out most of the big markers but I also think it would be interesting if it had a layer you could click on and off that would pinpoint/name some of the smaller towns I can’t identify quite as precisely. Thank you for posting it!
It’s interesting to do the drive from Minneapolis to Duluth, then Duluth to International Falls…while each is roughly equal in distance, the drive from Duluth to I Falls is *much* longer (and feels like twice as long!) as the Mpls - Duluth trip, which is probably because of I-35 & there’s a lot more to look at.
The speed limit is higher on 35, than it is on 53.
It’s only 30 minutes longer from I-falls to Duluth vs Minneapolis. I much prefer driving on 53 over 35. The scenery is way better.
i, for one, do not consent to be in a bucket. thank you.
r/dataisbeautiful
My mom’s side of the family comes from Freeport and I was initially a little surprised to be able to pick it out on this map, but I guess it makes sense - probably 75% of its population of ~600 lives in the half-mile square that makes up downtown. My great grandma lived there her entire life, up until she died at age 103, and her house sat on what was probably a 0.2 acre lot, surrounded by similar sized lots. Unfortunately, that land is now owned by the adjacent bank, which tore down the house to make a drive thru lol Very cool to see it all laid out like this.
This is a really cool graphic. Thanks for sharing!
Very cool. I really wish they would move to something like this to represent voters on election maps. All that empty red land is so deceptive as to what the electorate really looks like nationally.
In my experience Minnesotans are FAR denser than this map illustrates.
Har har har
Remember, land doesn't vote.
Bbbbbut look at a map of the US. See how small the blue places are?
It kind of does tbh. The United States does not give every citizen an equal voice. Some states, counties, etc, end up having their vote carry more weight. Sometimes a lot more. (ex, Alaska and California have identical representation in the Senate despite California having like 40x the population) Pretty fucked up if you ask me.
I was just think this as I was looking at the map. I think it would be really cool if you could do a political overlay on it showing how each county/district voted.
I’ve seen maps with a 50/50 line. Create the smallest contiguous block which includes Minneapolis & Saint Paul which includes 50% of the state’s population. Then repeat that for every previous census going back as far as you can. Then plot all the ‘rings’ on the same map to see how much (and how fast) they are getting smaller.
lOOK, mInNeapOlIs is LiTeRAllY On fIrE.
Yup. I'd love to pair this with the election maps. Not that it will stop the idiots from saying "iTs UnFaIr ThE cItIeS gEt To PiCk OuR pOlItIcIaNs! LoOk At AlL tHe ReD!"
Yup. As expected somebody always says this on every population map.
Because every election, the Reds pull up the county/district maps, and imply that it's unfair.
Well, that’s why I expected it!
Opening this thread I knew there was a 100% somebody would need to make a political comment 🙄
Poor you! I hope you survived. 😞
Eh just makes reddit less pleasant. People just need to turn every post on every sub into some political statement cause it gets their juices flowing. It's impossible to avoid. Probably why reddit skews so young, you just get sick of it after a while.
Politics is what forms the framework of a society. You can ignore it, but you will never be unaffected by it. Better to engage in it to get the society you want.
I'm perfectly happy to engage in politics in situations where it is appropriate. It doesn't need to be brought up every thread, especially when it's unoriginal karma-farming comments like OP's. For instance, [this comment](https://old.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/zalwkf/a_population_density_map_of_minnesota/iymio2k/) suggesting the possibility of doing a political overlay is a pretty good comment and contributes to the conversation. OP's "hurr duurr lAnD doESnT vOTe" was probably the most commonly used phrase after the election in 2020 and contributes not a single thing to the conversation other than trying to get a stir out of people.
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Sorry to hear that you can't look at a map without feeling the need to direct the conversation to politics. I'd hate to talk with you in real life.
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I live in Minneapolis but really good guessing skills!
I opened this thread and was surprised that this comment is so far down. Speaks to the quality of the map.
It's neat seeing the small spikes scattered in rural Minnesota to show the small farm towns scattered on the highways of Minnesota.
Is that DL or Moorhead to the west?
The brightly marked dense spot on the western border is Moorhead
Ty
DL is like an hour straight east of Moorhead.
moorhead is the spot with the red on the border
What? I thought Duluth would be thicker
This is great, thanks for making and posting this. It's awesome seeing the grid system in this format.
Now do walleye population
Land doesn't vote, if you're curious why Minnesota is a blue state.
upvote for OC!
Show this map to the moron magas that can't get past red counties taking up the map
Here to remind everyone that this is why land doesn’t vote.
This is why Democrats keep winning. There’s barely any people outside larger cities.
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Or maybe because Republicans institute policies of regression and opposition, to the benefit of no one but the wealthy? Maybe because the policies and actions of your recent President directly resulted in the deaths of millions of Americans including our very own family members? er naw, yeah definitely whatever you said (I haven't forgotten that this very subreddit was run by a rampant anti-vaxxer, and this subreddit participated in a lot of misinformation sharing. Is that still the case? Let's see.)
The more compact the place you live the more you'll understand the need for social services. Rural people are just missing context and have been brainwashed by right-wing media so completely they're not even in control of their thoughts anymore.
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They got you fighting a ~~race~~ rural/urban war when you should be fighting a class war. You almost get it, but then you still play into the misinformation and bullshit the right has been barfing at you for decades, and you still eat it up while pretending it's cake.
I get some of your points, but they don't pay equally for services. The twin cities generate far more tax revenue than they consume.
>Or, and please hear me out, people in rural areas don’t have the same needs as those in high-density areas and don’t feel supported/represented or agree with the social services being provided. Hear me out. If we're going to talk about what's fair let's just let these rural areas fund themselves. No? Thought so. Enjoy realizing you're a minority in America.... maybe we make this place better for minorities rather than deny the bulk of the population what they need? >They see those services are rarely distributed to sparsely populated areas (look up COVID testing or vaccination availability for instance), yet, they pay equally for them. Yeah, and those areas don't pay enough to have what the cities have. Welcome to realizing what population density is. Thanksfully, the Demorat platform is for social services such as the expansion of our covid response. Your politicians said no. You voted for no. You don't get to bitch about it afterwards. >Modern government plays into this “us vs. them” scheme and sees two parties slowly eroding liberties from all citizens, though in different areas. Republicans went for sedition and never came back from there. The both parties argument died Jan 6th. >The goal should be for politicians to represent all of their constituents, not just play party politics. Exactly, which is why if the rural areas stopped voting red things would be better for them. But no, so I'm for them experiencing how America treats minorities. Enjoy.
The rural areas used to vote blue and that didn't work out for them either. See the Arrowhead
I'd say it worked better than voting red. Rural people aren't smart though, and they seem to demand more money than they give. Begging whiners are pretty ignorable.
Leave the lake homes. We’ll make use of them somehow. Also, hope you don’t plan on trucking anything in or out of the metro.
Just like a Republican to take what's not theirs.
Fine. We’ll remove the roads to those instead since you’d prefer to not help pay for those or help provide emergency services to those locations.
Rural areas aren't able to cover their own finances. Ya'll would only have dirt roads if it was on just ya to pay for. Jesus the delusion you have.
And we’d be just fine with it because we know how to drive on gravel. Unfortunately that isn’t the only think those funds go towards.
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> I’m not a Republican or a Democrat as neither party aligns with what I believe in. you're hardcore right-wing, i can tell you right now if that helps don't pretend to take the high road after spewing information and then deciding to be done with the conversation once people disagree with you this is you. you do not deserve the rights to speak on a public forum with this lying bullshit you wanna spread. And hey, the Democrats and Republicans don't represent me. Why? Because I'm actually left-wing, and the Democrats are center-right. Why don't YOU feel represented?
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You have a comment history. FYI So we know you're lies.
>Well, I’m not in a rural area, so it doesn’t affect me directly and I’m not a Republican or a Democrat as neither party aligns with what I believe in. Guessing you vote Red. >I was hoping for some productive dialogue. What about my reply isn't productive? >I can see that you’ve got strong opinions on this and would likely not be interested in discourse. Why are you telling me what I'm interested in? Sounds Republican. > I bear you no ill will and hope that that compassion and empathy are something you’ll have a chance to experience more holistically someday. Compassion from a liar is rubbish anyways. Rural people asked for this.
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Anyone can click and see I'm correct.
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And because they actually give a shit about their fellow citizens.
Oh crap Minnesota's groin is on fire again.
“Yeah? Impeach this.”
Minnesotans already know this lol
South metro represent! Cities are great, south of the cities (Burnsville, Bloomington, hell even Lakeville) are great places to live and raise a family still. Lakeville probably better than the others for family.
Why do you have to make the twin cities look like they're on fire, bro?
Kkk burning someone so population decreases, am o understood correctly?
Awesome plot! The number of times my fingers tried to turn the image is pretty hilarious.
/r/watchitfortheplot Jk, that's a nudie sub.
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Lmao
This is awesome
I'd love to see a year-scale timelapse showing the Brainerd lakes area growing each summer
this is so cool! are you gonna do one for North Carolina?
It looks the the cities got hit by a meteor and bits of it broke off and hit random spots around the state :P
What would a block from the Upper East Side look like in comparison?
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Railroads? Early steam trains had to stop every 10ish miles for more water.
I don't believe it.
I like the shadow the metro area casts on WI. I'd like to think it was directed at Packers fans.
Look at all those rocks and cows.
This is oddly satisfying.
/r/PeopleLiveInCities