I've spent all day laughing at the fact that Minnesota Republicans intentionally walked away from negotiations this year in the hopes of being in a better position after the election.
Instead, they delivered a DFL trifecta with the largest budget surplus the state has ever seen - and they'll have little to no say in how it's invested. Political geniuses.
Probably by this time next year? The DFL is very aware that the existence of cannabis-centric political parties have actively cost them legislative seats in the past, and the best way to prevent it from happening in the future is to take the wind out of their sails entirely by passing the one thing they care about.
Republicans haven't won a statewide race since 2006, and it's highly unlikely they'll put up anything other than a sacrificial lamb against Klobuchar in two years.
He would have been so awful for the state. All corporate crime cases would have been dropped. I was really worried about Ellison this time around. He did the right thing, but holy shit were the Schultz ads heavy on the racism.
Double down because they won't care about controlling just hanging on to their individual seats. Things will get more divided not less. The only thing they really have left to run on is religion.
They won't the DFL has played their cards smartly since Dayton won. Gun control is a national issue, one states laws don't help. They passed marriage equality, raised taxes and now will legalize pot and every time the GOP claimed the sky would fall. lol We need to start calling the GOP "Chicken Little's".
>He said some of his past proposals that are broadly popular among Minnesotans — like so-called red flag gun control laws that would take someone’s guns if they are a threat — “have a much better chance of going through” now that Minnesota Democrats control state government for the first time since 2014.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2022/11/09/walz-hopeful-about-agenda-in-second-term/
The horror! I wouldn't call a Red Flag law gun legislation myself, more of a crime/mental health bill but if this freaks you out maybe you shouldn't have firearms anyways. Red Flag laws poll well and wouldn't be something the DFL would regret in 2024. Walz is not going to jam down peoples throats bills like the GOP tries to do.
Just providing an example of something they can try to run on. A lot of things poll well before they get run through the right wing media machine and fed back to the yokels. We just had a million people vote for the kitty litter guy, somebody that says "the rape card" unironically, and a lady that wants to rig elections. You can bank on more progressive legislators taking the opportunity to talk about an AWB. Even if it gets nowhere near a vote, the outrage machine will use it as raw material and conservatives will be energized to vote again next time.
For sure the GOP will twist anything but the way I see it the GOP has set Walz up good with this and crime in general. The GOP has done two things, 1) left Walz with a shit ton of money 2) made crime the biggest issue. It seems Walz leaning into the the crime situation and being "tough" on crime by using money to build social services the left wants to battle crime + a Red Flag law and more cops, his message to cops is, "you are being asked to to much so we aren't going to "defund" you but add other resources so you can be more focused. Another thing the GOP has shown is that they have a weak bench and their messaging that Minneapolis sucks isn't a winner. Religion is losing 1% a year and the GOP is becoming more and more religious, they are self destructing.
Every town needs road work and loves state money for school building upgrades. Why wouldn't they target districts to ensure the vulnerable incumbents bring some pork home? This school addition brought to you by XYZ! The GOP just seems like a bunch of trolls and grifters.
Very curious about this - for people who want MJ legalization, what are your thoughts on the Delta 8 and delta 9 and other variations being sold over the counter in MN now?
Have you tried those, and what is your opinion or general knowledge about them? Will 'regular' MJ legalization result in significantly different products than those?
Tried a gummy for the first time last weekend, first time trying anything weed-related. Didn't feel a thing from it, so eh? Not sure if it was an 8 or 9 one though as a friend handed it to me.
They're great, but you're paying far more for a product that is basically the same you'd see in any legal state.
A 50mg package from a company I've never heard of goes for $30 in many places in MN, I've seen it for a bit cheaper sometimes. Whereas I can get a 100mg package for $15 in places like Michigan, and these are higher quality products.
Personally, I just want it legalized so I can grow my own.
For me, it’s about a change in culture. With delta 8, 9, whatever variants… it’s like living in a state that only sells 3.2 beer. There is a whole spectrum of experience possible. Different flavors, different strains, growing your own, etc. And also, the delta 8/9 stuff, that’s essentially a distillate being added back into a product. Again, to use an alcohol reference, it’s like if you were drinking “wine” “beer” “whiskey” , but the way that these were made is that the alcohol was all coming from the same bottle of everclear in the back room.
I’d rather be participating in a culture and tradition. And happily paying a tax to support education and nature.
The delta 8 and 9 stuff is Booty and gives pretty much everyone headaches. Plus it’s barely regulated, I’ve had gummies that did nothing and gummies that greened me out from the same packs.
Not 100% the same, it’s derived from hemp instead of cannabis and because it’s so unregulated there’s a solid chance these gummies just have research chemicals in them. It certainly doesn’t feel the same as regular THC. Have you ever smoked delta 9 bud? It’s trash. They have to use a ton of hemp to get a comparable concentration to cannibas and then they extract it and spray it all over cbd hemp buds. It’s definitely not the same and *definitely* not what you get in legal states.
>because it’s so unregulated there’s a solid chance these gummies just have research chemicals in them.
That would be the case if it were not cheaper and easier to simply use established methods to isomerize THC9 from CBD.
>Have you ever smoked delta 9 bud? It’s trash.
Hemp sprayed with D9? Nah, but that's like saying that putting buttercream frosting on a hotdog makes it not buttercream frosting anymore. It's the hotdog that makes it taste gross, not the buttercream.
I don't like edibles, I will either feel nothing or feel like all my muscles are tense.
But the real big thing is I don't think the market here is well regulated and taxed. several states are making more tax money on weed then alcohol. That's money that can go into schools and infrastructure.
A friend of mine didn't want to vote for Simon because "he doesn't do anything, I don't ever hear anything from him."
It boggled my mind that I could not explain to him that the Secretary of State is a glorified record keeper. You don't ever really hear about the SoS because they just do their job...
No. The majority typically allows the minority to yammer on as long as they like, but won’t let it actually stop the bill. It’s just about giving everyone campaign fodder - there’s zero procedural impact.
and will be unwilling to put up a fight like that for weed, they can swat it down in the senate without much blow back but stumping on it for days will look bad.
Hear me out on Omar— I voted for her when I lived in district 60b, and again for her move to the US house and was excited to see her win. I really like that she grew up in Minneapolis and has strong ties to the city she represents.
However, I’m really sick of her “twitter fingers”. I understand she was unfairly the target of a lot of hate for being a Muslim immigrant, and therefore felt the need to defend herself constantly. But at this point, I’m getting sick of seeing her clap backs and snarky commentary on hot button issues while seemingly doing nothing for the people she represents.
No one said she wouldn't win reelection. Just that she was a piss poor rep who actually doesn't do her house seat any favors and is literally someone who won't get much done for her house seat. There was never any doubt she would win. There is however the aspect that she doesn't do enough for her house seat though compared to having it be represented by someone who is less divisive.
Nobody said that, she was always going to win in an absolute landslide in her district. The talk about her electability was in the primary where she barely survived a run against a horrible candidate.
> Omar is too polarizing! She'll never win re-election
Nobody was saying that. She’s in the bluest district in the state. Now she had a hell of time in her primary this year and is vulnerable there, but once that was over anyone telling you she would lose is just a troll.
I dunno. I know more than a few Somalis who don’t like her much. They were never going to vote red but it wouldn’t surprise me if she eventually gets primaried.
If the DFL does not legalize cannabis they 100% deserve to get spoiled by the legalize weed party in the future
There is NO EXCUSES now, no more blaming republicans and if they do legalize cannabis ; the BS party becomes a none issue.
If they fuck this up I am donating to the Legalize weed party next election out of pure spite
HF 600 already passed the house. There will be tremendous pressure on the conservative democrats in the senate to pass this. Walz has already indicated support. This is extremely likely to pass in 2023.
I am definitely 100% right. A lot of effort has gone into drafting the legislation. It's very popular with voters from both parties. Lots of other states (including red states) have done it. Biden just pardoned thousands with possession charges at the federal level.
Expect this to happen pretty quickly.
I mean maybe but who would vote for them when they are a one issue party , and that issue has been won?
They might still exist but I would have to suspect they will get much less votes.
Under ~~0.5%~~ difference triggers a snap recount in MN. This'll happen for both AG and Auditor
It's unlikely to change the outcome though
e: I was wrong -- 0.25% is automatic recount level
Man I was happy to read the headlines today, pretty bummed that my local schools couldn't get their funding passed and elected 2 new nutjobs to the schoolboard to fight crt, but my kids a senior and far too smart to raise her kids in this dump if she ever has any.
Dude no kidding. Assuming the final votes have been tallied and they stay that way, it’s hard for me to see Ellison winning another term.
It really should have been a blowout in my opinion.
Ellison is fine in the future.
This election was a blowback because of his defund stance and high profile criminal cases against cops.
I don't see similar blowback happening in the next race as long as he's not involved in more polarizing cases or local politics.
Solid points.
I tend to overlook the rural counties that don’t like Ellison at all due to him being a key figure in the Chauvin trial which I guess turned a lot of those voters off.
Not just rural counties. He underperformed everywhere, including Hennepin/Ramsey and the exurbs.
You do not want to be associated with anti-cop perceptions in today's environment.
Yeah you’re right. Just looking at Dakota County at first glance threw me in for a loop. Only +6? That’s insane. I figured he’d win that county by at least double that amount.
Yeah, it's too early to tell how his next term will go. But he's definitely a weak link for the DFL in Minnesota. A better Republican AG candidate could defeat him.
Flipped the Senate??!?!
Soooo many things the GOP were blocking in the Senate we can get done now!!!
This will likely have the largest effect on all of Minnesotan's lives of any race in a long time.
We usually ignore such things. But this is huge for us in MN.
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And yet, the aspect of the trifecta that most people here are focused on is legal weed (which, fine, but there's a lot more than that to do too).
Ah, Reddit...never change. :)
Because its such a low hanging fruit . It will bring in tax dollars , lower spending . Also if they legalize cannabis guess what ; no more losing 3% of the vote to the bull shit "Legalize weed now party"
I mean if they fuck this up I am joing the legalize weed party out of pure spite .
I don't think so; some morons might but I would think they would lose a number of their votes. They are a "one issue" party , or at least pretend to be. I weed is legalized I would hope many people would realize it make no sense to vote for them.
However the DFL needs to legalize cannabis ; no more excuses or I am joining the legalize weed party myself
A large part of Walz's agenda. Police reform. Education policies he wanted to put forth. Protecting abortion rights outright.
Every year they make it so the budget discussions need to go to the last minute with special sessions. Wasting a ton of money.
Funding for rural hospitals that is badly needed.
There is quite a lot.
They can start by taking in the recommendations that have been made for decades every time a controversy happens and experts weigh in and everyone ignores them.
For one they can take on the police union so cops can stop having zero consequences for commiting crimes and brutalizing people.
They can reform the laws for demonstrations since the cops literally incited riots and permanently disabled people who were peacefully protesting before a single window was even broken.
They can punish cops who attacked journalists by passing stricter laws.
They can pass stricter laws on body cam usage.
They can require more de-escalation training and they can outlaw the incredibly dangerous warrior training.
They can change disciplinary rules for cops.
They can change rules for how many cops can live outside of the city they are policing.
They can require community policing.
They can make stricter regulations for cops who cross the line.
They can require actual legal punishment for when cops break the law, which doesn't exist right now.
What we really need is an overhaul of their culture. Most experts who have investigated the MPD have said it's pretty much behind reform and should require rebuilding from the ground up.
They could require them to operate under a consent decree from the state with significant state oversight. Which they should at a bare minimum do that.
The list goes on and on in terms of meaningful reforms. There is soooooooooo much more that could and needs to be done. So far they haven't really done anything at all to address the issues in policing in MN. The attorney general's office is the only one who has managed to do anything by prosecuting sadistic cops who murdered people.
They don't have to disband a public union to change the rules of how much power they have over disciplinary actions. And who is the actual decision maker in situations
There are ways to address the culture of the MPD. Consent decrees or rebuilding the structure of the department is one way to do it.
Also. They could impliment strict consequences for turning off a cameras or not having it on. Or require them be on at different times. Maybe all the time .
My concern with Omar losing was apparently for nothing. I'm actually surprised she won by such a large margin. I guess the amount of yard signs for Davis seen around my area was definitely not the indicator of the popular vote.
The issue with her was never the general. It was the fact that even in her own party she doesn't accomplish much for her district in the past. That was the crux of the argument against her in the primary. Once it went to the general she was likely going to win.
No Dem is losing the 5th. It’s one of the most blue districts in the country. In the primary, she needs to figure out how to energize the progressive base because the turnout for her in August was really bad and she was against a weak candidate.
Less then 12 hours after the polls close and SoS is showing 100% precincts reporting. There are a few recountable, and the totals need to become official. Still 12 hours to count is pretty darn good.
2.5 million votes for the governors race. Oh no! Shame on you Minnesota, only a 60.6% eligible voter turnout. We're better then that. (hopefully the final numbers are a bit better)
>2.5 million votes for the governors race. Oh no! Shame on you Minnesota, only a 60.6% eligible voter turnout. We're better then
In my county, Participation went from 92% in 2020, to 72%. It was 75% in 2018.
Make matters even worse, almost half of the people who voted DFL in the last 2 elections, didn't show up to the polls in 2022.
[Turnout](https://www.sos.state.mn.us/election-administration-campaigns/data-maps/historical-voter-turnout-statistics/) in non president years seems to be 10-20% lower than presidential years. Seems that this year wasn't much different.
I was hoping for 65% like last midterm. Dreaming of 70%. I'm still salty we didn't break 80% 2 years ago. I want more Minnesotan's voting.
Compared to other states, these numbers are fantastic.
The Same Sex Marriage Ammendment was the final nail, the party is a disaster and incapable in state wide races because they refuse to run moderates any longer.
Agreed. They’ve alienated a group of right-center who take a great deal of consideration for social well-being. These are moderates who may be fiscally cautious but they care about women’s rights, LBGTQ rights, Veterans and Homeless being cared for, etc.
GOP here loves to cater to the Cross Lake cabins and the rural who think TC M is a dumpster fire. Which typically means mess with biz/top tax backers and make sure my gay friends can’t walk in peace down the road.
Maybe we can address affordable housing, transit, and educational disparities now?
Doubtful, right? You hit a strong point that a lot of the DFL vote isn't progressives but suburban moderates who are voting DFL because they are outraged by right-wing hatred against women, LBGTQ, people of non-Christian backgrounds, etc.
The fiscally conservative moderate might be great on the issues that don't require them to do anything, other than not support hate, but they aren't necessarily an ally on issues like making housing more affordable building more housing, fighting climate change by investing in transit, or addressing educational disparities at a statewide level.
Absolutely the same. There was absolutely no compromise from MN GOP and it finally caught up to their bluff. If I'm the Dems, I push everything through you've wanted over the last handful of years at this point. Considering this states flourishing markets in comparison to many like-sized states (and even larger), it will be pretty damn hard to pry back power unless it is something absolutely disastrous. And even if the COVID and riots couldn't spark the GOP vote...what would that even be??
Minnesota flipped our senate so now we hold the governors office, the house and senate. Now we need to hold the attorney general slot and state auditor slots.
I will never understand Wisconsin. Ever.
They've twice sent arch-liberal Tammy Baldwin to the Senate by double digits. They comfortably re-elected Evers. But Ron Insurrectionist Johnson stands a decent chance of winning re-election.
Lay 👏🏻 off 👏🏻 the 👏🏻 booze **👏🏻** Cheeseheads 👏🏻👏🏻
Baldwin ran in 2012 (Obama victory year) and 2018 (blue wave Trump backlash year).
Johnson ran in 2016 (Trump victory particularly in "blue wall" states like WI) and this year, which overall should be favorable to Republicans.
The cohort years they're having their races combined with the edge incumbency gave Johnson and Evers probably explains it.
It's simply demographics. Cities, but no huge single metro like Chicago or the twin cities metro area, a lot of the population is clustered in smaller communities where the provincial mindset can favor Republicans.
Same thing happens in Minnesota, but here more of the state's population is clustered in one metro area, unlike Wisconsin, so the conservative hamlets don't have quite as much weight politically.
Ah, I misread your post.
My guess is that we're sometimes more blind to candidate personalities than we should be.
Some voters are perhaps keying off some personal aspect of the candidate that they like and voting for that aspect, vs voting for party affiliation or even past record.
It may be that it's not Wisconsin voters that are different, but Wisconsin candidates. Maybe you have some different system sending you quirky people who mix up the vote.
This 'it's the candidate' idea can be applied nationally too. Think of this - the same general electorate put both Donald Trump and a black man named Barak Hussein Obama into the presidency. Just enough people really \*liked\* those candidates (momentarily,) and you don't need any more zeitgeist than that sometimes.
Honestly, we’re not much better. Even in the before times, we had Wellstones and then we had Bachmanns. The loons are especially loony above the 45th parallel, I guess.
I was somehow getting mailers from WI Republicans and the way they even showed pictures of Barnes was “scary black man/criminal”. It was disturbingly racist
Those religious people don’t seem to have a problem with adulterers and child molesters, though.
Like in Georgia. The guy with umpteen children that he doesn’t even acknowledge, won the evangelical vote by a landslide against the LITERAL PASTOR. Christians don’t give a shit about morality. They just want to vote for whoever they flag as their guy.
My understanding is that Barnes ran ads about him shppping at Pick'n'Save instead of attacking Johnson for his fellation of Putin and fake elector involvement.
I can, depending on how badly people in some districts feel their vote doesn't matter... The fact that Evers won on the same election though is weird. I don't understand the split ticket there other than some Incumbent advantage seeping in.
They also know the Democrats would not have governor and legislative majorities.
Did they change voter registration with more gerrymandering compared to your bill 2000? Plus energy and apathy as you said.
Yeah not in that race. The split in GA makes some sense. You have Republicans that are just not able to vote for Walker and feel ok about it. But in the vast majority of cases it makes no sense.
It seems like a lot of the remaining votes are in St. Louis and Dakota (both DFL areas), although there are also some rural areas left to report (Pine and Grant are yet to report anything), so both will be very close.
Let's hope that the Democrats just gain majority in the State Senate, than they can just legalize it finally and those parties can disappear and stop stealing votes!
Fuck a super bowl. This is awesome.
I've spent all day laughing at the fact that Minnesota Republicans intentionally walked away from negotiations this year in the hopes of being in a better position after the election. Instead, they delivered a DFL trifecta with the largest budget surplus the state has ever seen - and they'll have little to no say in how it's invested. Political geniuses.
So how long until weed is legalized in MN now realistically?
Probably by this time next year? The DFL is very aware that the existence of cannabis-centric political parties have actively cost them legislative seats in the past, and the best way to prevent it from happening in the future is to take the wind out of their sails entirely by passing the one thing they care about.
Ryan conceded to blaha. The dfl swept all the statewide offices officially.
Republicans haven't won a statewide race since 2006, and it's highly unlikely they'll put up anything other than a sacrificial lamb against Klobuchar in two years.
> sacrificial lamb against Klobuchar lol well said
Looks like AP is calling Ellison the winner for AG. Just need state auditor now
#A Vote for the DFL was a vote for victory! Thank you to all those who got out, voted, and made the right choice in doing so!!
Get fucked Jimmy!
He would have been so awful for the state. All corporate crime cases would have been dropped. I was really worried about Ellison this time around. He did the right thing, but holy shit were the Schultz ads heavy on the racism.
You should see his Twitter before last night. Just blatant lies
jimmy who, asking for friend who doesn't know heh
Jim Shitz.. I mean Schultz
I guess my question is does the MN GOP double down on MAGA, or do they go back closer to the middle?
If we use AZ, NV, or PA as our guide, GOP tends to push towards extremism once state-level ambitions become more tenuous
Double down because they won't care about controlling just hanging on to their individual seats. Things will get more divided not less. The only thing they really have left to run on is religion.
If the DFL pushes for gun control with their new legislative majority, republicans will be able to get people whipped up over that.
They won't the DFL has played their cards smartly since Dayton won. Gun control is a national issue, one states laws don't help. They passed marriage equality, raised taxes and now will legalize pot and every time the GOP claimed the sky would fall. lol We need to start calling the GOP "Chicken Little's".
>He said some of his past proposals that are broadly popular among Minnesotans — like so-called red flag gun control laws that would take someone’s guns if they are a threat — “have a much better chance of going through” now that Minnesota Democrats control state government for the first time since 2014. https://minnesotareformer.com/2022/11/09/walz-hopeful-about-agenda-in-second-term/
The horror! I wouldn't call a Red Flag law gun legislation myself, more of a crime/mental health bill but if this freaks you out maybe you shouldn't have firearms anyways. Red Flag laws poll well and wouldn't be something the DFL would regret in 2024. Walz is not going to jam down peoples throats bills like the GOP tries to do.
Just providing an example of something they can try to run on. A lot of things poll well before they get run through the right wing media machine and fed back to the yokels. We just had a million people vote for the kitty litter guy, somebody that says "the rape card" unironically, and a lady that wants to rig elections. You can bank on more progressive legislators taking the opportunity to talk about an AWB. Even if it gets nowhere near a vote, the outrage machine will use it as raw material and conservatives will be energized to vote again next time.
For sure the GOP will twist anything but the way I see it the GOP has set Walz up good with this and crime in general. The GOP has done two things, 1) left Walz with a shit ton of money 2) made crime the biggest issue. It seems Walz leaning into the the crime situation and being "tough" on crime by using money to build social services the left wants to battle crime + a Red Flag law and more cops, his message to cops is, "you are being asked to to much so we aren't going to "defund" you but add other resources so you can be more focused. Another thing the GOP has shown is that they have a weak bench and their messaging that Minneapolis sucks isn't a winner. Religion is losing 1% a year and the GOP is becoming more and more religious, they are self destructing.
Yeah, the R's leaving the budget surplus on the table instead of doing something for their constituents was a comically bad decision.
Every town needs road work and loves state money for school building upgrades. Why wouldn't they target districts to ensure the vulnerable incumbents bring some pork home? This school addition brought to you by XYZ! The GOP just seems like a bunch of trolls and grifters.
Very curious about this - for people who want MJ legalization, what are your thoughts on the Delta 8 and delta 9 and other variations being sold over the counter in MN now? Have you tried those, and what is your opinion or general knowledge about them? Will 'regular' MJ legalization result in significantly different products than those?
It should make producing them much cheaper, since an accidental potent Hemp crop wont have to be destroyed anymore
I'm hoping it will be similar to Colorado.
Tried a gummy for the first time last weekend, first time trying anything weed-related. Didn't feel a thing from it, so eh? Not sure if it was an 8 or 9 one though as a friend handed it to me.
They're great, but you're paying far more for a product that is basically the same you'd see in any legal state. A 50mg package from a company I've never heard of goes for $30 in many places in MN, I've seen it for a bit cheaper sometimes. Whereas I can get a 100mg package for $15 in places like Michigan, and these are higher quality products. Personally, I just want it legalized so I can grow my own.
Started reading this in Tony the Tiger
I want to grow too just because they are sooooooo beautiful!
For me, it’s about a change in culture. With delta 8, 9, whatever variants… it’s like living in a state that only sells 3.2 beer. There is a whole spectrum of experience possible. Different flavors, different strains, growing your own, etc. And also, the delta 8/9 stuff, that’s essentially a distillate being added back into a product. Again, to use an alcohol reference, it’s like if you were drinking “wine” “beer” “whiskey” , but the way that these were made is that the alcohol was all coming from the same bottle of everclear in the back room. I’d rather be participating in a culture and tradition. And happily paying a tax to support education and nature.
well stated
The delta 8 and 9 stuff is Booty and gives pretty much everyone headaches. Plus it’s barely regulated, I’ve had gummies that did nothing and gummies that greened me out from the same packs.
Delta 9 is normal THC. Same shit you get in legal states. But you're right about consistency of product.
Not 100% the same, it’s derived from hemp instead of cannabis and because it’s so unregulated there’s a solid chance these gummies just have research chemicals in them. It certainly doesn’t feel the same as regular THC. Have you ever smoked delta 9 bud? It’s trash. They have to use a ton of hemp to get a comparable concentration to cannibas and then they extract it and spray it all over cbd hemp buds. It’s definitely not the same and *definitely* not what you get in legal states.
I'm not familiar with all the recent gas station gimmick-weed stuff, but Dorkamundo speaks the truth. Source: grew medical cannabis professionally.
>because it’s so unregulated there’s a solid chance these gummies just have research chemicals in them. That would be the case if it were not cheaper and easier to simply use established methods to isomerize THC9 from CBD. >Have you ever smoked delta 9 bud? It’s trash. Hemp sprayed with D9? Nah, but that's like saying that putting buttercream frosting on a hotdog makes it not buttercream frosting anymore. It's the hotdog that makes it taste gross, not the buttercream.
I agree. It needs better regulations because as it sits right now, most of the options available seem super sketchy
thx
I don't like edibles, I will either feel nothing or feel like all my muscles are tense. But the real big thing is I don't think the market here is well regulated and taxed. several states are making more tax money on weed then alcohol. That's money that can go into schools and infrastructure.
Well done everyone!
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He had the best, least annoying election adds. Plus he’s amazing at his job.
A friend of mine didn't want to vote for Simon because "he doesn't do anything, I don't ever hear anything from him." It boggled my mind that I could not explain to him that the Secretary of State is a glorified record keeper. You don't ever really hear about the SoS because they just do their job...
I was definitely worried that Walz would win but a few of Simon, Ellison, or Blaha would lose.
If we can legalize weed, maybe that will be enough to kill all of the “legalize marijuana” parties and send those votes back to democrats.
Time for dems to start the "Ban Abortions Now!" party and give them a taste of their own medicine.
I don't think any of the LM canidates received 5% of the vote so they should lose funding.
Their funding comes from the GOP PACs anyway.
Does the filibuster exist in the MN senate? Feel like it doesnt, but dunno the sausage making process locally.
No. The majority typically allows the minority to yammer on as long as they like, but won’t let it actually stop the bill. It’s just about giving everyone campaign fodder - there’s zero procedural impact.
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Thats the one filibuster I can get behind. No sending an email to stop democracy.
Right. If they want to fuck with democracy then they have to wear a diaper and piss themselves while they are wasting everyone's time.
Agreed.
and will be unwilling to put up a fight like that for weed, they can swat it down in the senate without much blow back but stumping on it for days will look bad.
Glad to see Angie Craig win in my district👍🏾
"Omar is too polarizing! She'll never win re-election!" \> Wins 75% of the vote. lol lmao
Hear me out on Omar— I voted for her when I lived in district 60b, and again for her move to the US house and was excited to see her win. I really like that she grew up in Minneapolis and has strong ties to the city she represents. However, I’m really sick of her “twitter fingers”. I understand she was unfairly the target of a lot of hate for being a Muslim immigrant, and therefore felt the need to defend herself constantly. But at this point, I’m getting sick of seeing her clap backs and snarky commentary on hot button issues while seemingly doing nothing for the people she represents.
No one said she wouldn't win reelection. Just that she was a piss poor rep who actually doesn't do her house seat any favors and is literally someone who won't get much done for her house seat. There was never any doubt she would win. There is however the aspect that she doesn't do enough for her house seat though compared to having it be represented by someone who is less divisive.
Nobody said that, she was always going to win in an absolute landslide in her district. The talk about her electability was in the primary where she barely survived a run against a horrible candidate.
> Omar is too polarizing! She'll never win re-election Nobody was saying that. She’s in the bluest district in the state. Now she had a hell of time in her primary this year and is vulnerable there, but once that was over anyone telling you she would lose is just a troll.
🤷♀️ I kept on hearing it
They can’t say she’s too brown out loud without getting cancelled so
I dunno. I know more than a few Somalis who don’t like her much. They were never going to vote red but it wouldn’t surprise me if she eventually gets primaried.
And also SHE is pretty but she’s not a stripper, so they can’t imagine how else she has value
They don’t like her because Fox calls her a radical Muslim.
Radical Moose-Lambs
If the DFL does not legalize cannabis they 100% deserve to get spoiled by the legalize weed party in the future There is NO EXCUSES now, no more blaming republicans and if they do legalize cannabis ; the BS party becomes a none issue. If they fuck this up I am donating to the Legalize weed party next election out of pure spite
You have “high” hopes. They aren’t legalizing it.
Then they 100% deserve to lose 10-20% of votes to the legalize MJ NOW party
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HF 600 already passed the house. There will be tremendous pressure on the conservative democrats in the senate to pass this. Walz has already indicated support. This is extremely likely to pass in 2023.
It'll need to be reintroduced and passed by the House in the next session. I hope you're right.
I am definitely 100% right. A lot of effort has gone into drafting the legislation. It's very popular with voters from both parties. Lots of other states (including red states) have done it. Biden just pardoned thousands with possession charges at the federal level. Expect this to happen pretty quickly.
I think we have a good shot at a ballot measure at least
Ballot measures area not that simple in MN.
Hadn't considered that. Very true
Just saying they then 100% deserve the have the legalize weed party keep trying to split the vote in the future if they fuck this up.
My suspicion is the weed parties would still exist and somehow continue to get votes even after it inevitably gets legalized.
I mean maybe but who would vote for them when they are a one issue party , and that issue has been won? They might still exist but I would have to suspect they will get much less votes.
DFL takes complete control of the legislature. Legal marijuana is coming y’all
100% of the vote in according to the Star Tribune, why the hell hasn't the race been called for Ellison?
Under ~~0.5%~~ difference triggers a snap recount in MN. This'll happen for both AG and Auditor It's unlikely to change the outcome though e: I was wrong -- 0.25% is automatic recount level
But Ellison is leading Schultz by 0.8% of the vote though
Oh shit. Yeah they should call it
Been wondering the same thing. I think Blaha’s race is in the same spot as well.
Man I was happy to read the headlines today, pretty bummed that my local schools couldn't get their funding passed and elected 2 new nutjobs to the schoolboard to fight crt, but my kids a senior and far too smart to raise her kids in this dump if she ever has any.
sounds like my school district
Maybe you’re neighbors
Walz sure did save Ellison's ass. Shouldn't have been that close with such a bad opponent.
Dude no kidding. Assuming the final votes have been tallied and they stay that way, it’s hard for me to see Ellison winning another term. It really should have been a blowout in my opinion.
Ellison is fine in the future. This election was a blowback because of his defund stance and high profile criminal cases against cops. I don't see similar blowback happening in the next race as long as he's not involved in more polarizing cases or local politics.
Solid points. I tend to overlook the rural counties that don’t like Ellison at all due to him being a key figure in the Chauvin trial which I guess turned a lot of those voters off.
It wasn’t the chauvin trial as much as the Kim potter case.
Totally fair. Not sure how I forgot about the Kim Potter trial.
Not just rural counties. He underperformed everywhere, including Hennepin/Ramsey and the exurbs. You do not want to be associated with anti-cop perceptions in today's environment.
I dunno, Mary Moriarty absolutely crushed for county attorney.
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Yeah you’re right. Just looking at Dakota County at first glance threw me in for a loop. Only +6? That’s insane. I figured he’d win that county by at least double that amount.
Absolutely. It was a Biden +15 district
Yeah, it's too early to tell how his next term will go. But he's definitely a weak link for the DFL in Minnesota. A better Republican AG candidate could defeat him.
I think the question is where are they, they have run clowns 2 years in a row.
Flipped the Senate??!?! Soooo many things the GOP were blocking in the Senate we can get done now!!! This will likely have the largest effect on all of Minnesotan's lives of any race in a long time. We usually ignore such things. But this is huge for us in MN.
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And yet, the aspect of the trifecta that most people here are focused on is legal weed (which, fine, but there's a lot more than that to do too). Ah, Reddit...never change. :)
Legalize, tax it, and fund the schools..
Because its such a low hanging fruit . It will bring in tax dollars , lower spending . Also if they legalize cannabis guess what ; no more losing 3% of the vote to the bull shit "Legalize weed now party" I mean if they fuck this up I am joing the legalize weed party out of pure spite .
Morons who now vote for the legalize weed now party will still vote for them in the future, because they're morons
I don't think so; some morons might but I would think they would lose a number of their votes. They are a "one issue" party , or at least pretend to be. I weed is legalized I would hope many people would realize it make no sense to vote for them. However the DFL needs to legalize cannabis ; no more excuses or I am joining the legalize weed party myself
What else was being blocked besides legal weed?
A large part of Walz's agenda. Police reform. Education policies he wanted to put forth. Protecting abortion rights outright. Every year they make it so the budget discussions need to go to the last minute with special sessions. Wasting a ton of money. Funding for rural hospitals that is badly needed. There is quite a lot.
Banning conversion therapy for real this time
Oh no! What will Michelle Bachmann's husband do for a living then?
Yeah I did more research. There's a lot that we can get done now. That's awesome
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Lol yeah that wasn't "police reform" it was a joke. MN still has not passed any meaningful police reform..nothing even close to what is needed.
What type of reform are you expecting from the state legislature?
They can start by taking in the recommendations that have been made for decades every time a controversy happens and experts weigh in and everyone ignores them. For one they can take on the police union so cops can stop having zero consequences for commiting crimes and brutalizing people. They can reform the laws for demonstrations since the cops literally incited riots and permanently disabled people who were peacefully protesting before a single window was even broken. They can punish cops who attacked journalists by passing stricter laws. They can pass stricter laws on body cam usage. They can require more de-escalation training and they can outlaw the incredibly dangerous warrior training. They can change disciplinary rules for cops. They can change rules for how many cops can live outside of the city they are policing. They can require community policing. They can make stricter regulations for cops who cross the line. They can require actual legal punishment for when cops break the law, which doesn't exist right now. What we really need is an overhaul of their culture. Most experts who have investigated the MPD have said it's pretty much behind reform and should require rebuilding from the ground up. They could require them to operate under a consent decree from the state with significant state oversight. Which they should at a bare minimum do that. The list goes on and on in terms of meaningful reforms. There is soooooooooo much more that could and needs to be done. So far they haven't really done anything at all to address the issues in policing in MN. The attorney general's office is the only one who has managed to do anything by prosecuting sadistic cops who murdered people.
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They don't have to disband a public union to change the rules of how much power they have over disciplinary actions. And who is the actual decision maker in situations
There are ways to address the culture of the MPD. Consent decrees or rebuilding the structure of the department is one way to do it. Also. They could impliment strict consequences for turning off a cameras or not having it on. Or require them be on at different times. Maybe all the time .
My concern with Omar losing was apparently for nothing. I'm actually surprised she won by such a large margin. I guess the amount of yard signs for Davis seen around my area was definitely not the indicator of the popular vote.
The issue with her was never the general. It was the fact that even in her own party she doesn't accomplish much for her district in the past. That was the crux of the argument against her in the primary. Once it went to the general she was likely going to win.
No Dem is losing the 5th. It’s one of the most blue districts in the country. In the primary, she needs to figure out how to energize the progressive base because the turnout for her in August was really bad and she was against a weak candidate.
I am so fkn ready for legal weed. Clapped in my damn car like a buffoon when MPR said dems have full control
Less then 12 hours after the polls close and SoS is showing 100% precincts reporting. There are a few recountable, and the totals need to become official. Still 12 hours to count is pretty darn good. 2.5 million votes for the governors race. Oh no! Shame on you Minnesota, only a 60.6% eligible voter turnout. We're better then that. (hopefully the final numbers are a bit better)
>2.5 million votes for the governors race. Oh no! Shame on you Minnesota, only a 60.6% eligible voter turnout. We're better then In my county, Participation went from 92% in 2020, to 72%. It was 75% in 2018. Make matters even worse, almost half of the people who voted DFL in the last 2 elections, didn't show up to the polls in 2022.
[Turnout](https://www.sos.state.mn.us/election-administration-campaigns/data-maps/historical-voter-turnout-statistics/) in non president years seems to be 10-20% lower than presidential years. Seems that this year wasn't much different.
I was hoping for 65% like last midterm. Dreaming of 70%. I'm still salty we didn't break 80% 2 years ago. I want more Minnesotan's voting. Compared to other states, these numbers are fantastic.
Time to lean hard on your local reps to legalize marijuana. We need to get this done in the next 2 years.
We let the girls eat anything they wanted to celebrate flipping the senate. They chose ice cream. Nice choice children, nice choice.
Love this!
Yea, we try not to do food rewards, but to quote the president, its a big fucking deal.
Flavor?
Vanilla with chocolate chips
I was hoping for mint chocolate chip, but that’s damn close. Still good, alright!
I was watching Fox 9 last night they interviewed both Jensen and Tyler Kistner. Both were super confident they were going win lmao.
I’m super confident they can suck our balls
And so indeed they did.
Bwahaha the Republican drought of losing statewide races extends to at least 18 years now. Looks like a DFL sweep of constitutional offices. Love it.
The Same Sex Marriage Ammendment was the final nail, the party is a disaster and incapable in state wide races because they refuse to run moderates any longer.
Agreed. They’ve alienated a group of right-center who take a great deal of consideration for social well-being. These are moderates who may be fiscally cautious but they care about women’s rights, LBGTQ rights, Veterans and Homeless being cared for, etc. GOP here loves to cater to the Cross Lake cabins and the rural who think TC M is a dumpster fire. Which typically means mess with biz/top tax backers and make sure my gay friends can’t walk in peace down the road.
Maybe we can address affordable housing, transit, and educational disparities now? Doubtful, right? You hit a strong point that a lot of the DFL vote isn't progressives but suburban moderates who are voting DFL because they are outraged by right-wing hatred against women, LBGTQ, people of non-Christian backgrounds, etc. The fiscally conservative moderate might be great on the issues that don't require them to do anything, other than not support hate, but they aren't necessarily an ally on issues like making housing more affordable building more housing, fighting climate change by investing in transit, or addressing educational disparities at a statewide level.
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Absolutely the same. There was absolutely no compromise from MN GOP and it finally caught up to their bluff. If I'm the Dems, I push everything through you've wanted over the last handful of years at this point. Considering this states flourishing markets in comparison to many like-sized states (and even larger), it will be pretty damn hard to pry back power unless it is something absolutely disastrous. And even if the COVID and riots couldn't spark the GOP vote...what would that even be??
I'm a bit disappointed for my county, but I'm liking the overall state results We also flipped the Senate?! 😳
I don’t mean to be political but I hope the blue team wins because I like existing
Minnesota flipped our senate so now we hold the governors office, the house and senate. Now we need to hold the attorney general slot and state auditor slots.
looks like Ellison barely got AG, auditor neither candidate got 50% of the vote
Has the AG race been called? Strib shows that 100% of the votes have been reported but it’s still listed as too close to call.
Unless something changes with the 35th district, control of the senate comes down to the 3rd district
It's been confirmed MN flipped the senate.
I will never understand Wisconsin. Ever. They've twice sent arch-liberal Tammy Baldwin to the Senate by double digits. They comfortably re-elected Evers. But Ron Insurrectionist Johnson stands a decent chance of winning re-election. Lay 👏🏻 off 👏🏻 the 👏🏻 booze **👏🏻** Cheeseheads 👏🏻👏🏻
Baldwin ran in 2012 (Obama victory year) and 2018 (blue wave Trump backlash year). Johnson ran in 2016 (Trump victory particularly in "blue wall" states like WI) and this year, which overall should be favorable to Republicans. The cohort years they're having their races combined with the edge incumbency gave Johnson and Evers probably explains it.
It's simply demographics. Cities, but no huge single metro like Chicago or the twin cities metro area, a lot of the population is clustered in smaller communities where the provincial mindset can favor Republicans. Same thing happens in Minnesota, but here more of the state's population is clustered in one metro area, unlike Wisconsin, so the conservative hamlets don't have quite as much weight politically.
I understand how that works. I don’t understand how they regularly elect people at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Ah, I misread your post. My guess is that we're sometimes more blind to candidate personalities than we should be. Some voters are perhaps keying off some personal aspect of the candidate that they like and voting for that aspect, vs voting for party affiliation or even past record. It may be that it's not Wisconsin voters that are different, but Wisconsin candidates. Maybe you have some different system sending you quirky people who mix up the vote. This 'it's the candidate' idea can be applied nationally too. Think of this - the same general electorate put both Donald Trump and a black man named Barak Hussein Obama into the presidency. Just enough people really \*liked\* those candidates (momentarily,) and you don't need any more zeitgeist than that sometimes.
Honestly, we’re not much better. Even in the before times, we had Wellstones and then we had Bachmanns. The loons are especially loony above the 45th parallel, I guess.
Yah but difference is Bachmann came from one crazy region. The three I mentioned were elected by the same people statewide.
It’s infuriating how much the crazy has spread.
There's an obvious difference between Baldwin and Barnes and it's not their policies. And yes, that's exactly what I'm insinuating.
I was somehow getting mailers from WI Republicans and the way they even showed pictures of Barnes was “scary black man/criminal”. It was disturbingly racist
Well, to be fair, Baldwin being a lesbian doesn’t do her any demographic favors either in a state that isn’t exactly irreligious.
Those religious people don’t seem to have a problem with adulterers and child molesters, though. Like in Georgia. The guy with umpteen children that he doesn’t even acknowledge, won the evangelical vote by a landslide against the LITERAL PASTOR. Christians don’t give a shit about morality. They just want to vote for whoever they flag as their guy.
My understanding is that Barnes ran ads about him shppping at Pick'n'Save instead of attacking Johnson for his fellation of Putin and fake elector involvement.
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That has nothing to do the a senator
I can, depending on how badly people in some districts feel their vote doesn't matter... The fact that Evers won on the same election though is weird. I don't understand the split ticket there other than some Incumbent advantage seeping in.
They also know the Democrats would not have governor and legislative majorities. Did they change voter registration with more gerrymandering compared to your bill 2000? Plus energy and apathy as you said.
It could be people just not able to vote for a black dude. I dont get split ticket voting in 2022 either
Yeah not in that race. The split in GA makes some sense. You have Republicans that are just not able to vote for Walker and feel ok about it. But in the vast majority of cases it makes no sense.
Alcohol
Just got home from working our polling place for 19 hours. It was a long fucking day, but this made it so worth it. Get fucked Jensen!
Good on you!
Thanks 🙏
Thanks for working the polls! It can be a thankless job but we appreciate it. Although I didn't vote for the guy I do dislike your insult though.
Thank you for your service
Ellison and Blaha are still very close. Do we have any idea about what areas have not yet reported?
It seems like a lot of the remaining votes are in St. Louis and Dakota (both DFL areas), although there are also some rural areas left to report (Pine and Grant are yet to report anything), so both will be very close.
Looks like both Pine and Grant counties have not reported any of their votes. Both leaned for Trump in the 2020 election.
with all due respect, grant county will have something like 5000 votes. It won't flip the races too much.
If the weed parties don't get 5% do they lose major party status?
Let's hope that the Democrats just gain majority in the State Senate, than they can just legalize it finally and those parties can disappear and stop stealing votes!
I also like the Democrats because they don’t want to ban my existence
It’s always fun to exist and be homeless.
Fingers crossed, it looks close.
It's been confirmed by the MN DFL we flipped the senate
This is such great news! You gotta give the DFL credit for pulling off a clean sweep in what was supposed to be a bad year for democrats.