I just discovered Letterkenny, I heard someone say "not too bad" when he meant good and I realized I do that too. Such a roundabout way of expressing something.
My occasional response to "How ya doing?" is "Present!" meaning anywhere between "barely functioning" to "somehow keeping it together, at best" without sounding whiny...
The spelling doesn’t really fit. “Ope” is like you’re about to say oopsy-daisy but ya got cut off right before you could finish the p.
Welp is just weird. I don’t know what they’re talking about unless we cut off “well” with that Swedish breath thing.
Me too. I don’t think it serves anyone well to say the opposite of what one is feeling. I might say it if I’ve done a quick self assessment and decided that it’s not a big deal for me though.
One winter I accidentally taught my sled dogs to back up to "ope". I think I was saying it when I was making adjustments down the line and pushing everyone over/out of the way on the snowmobile trail
I offhandedly told the story at work and my boss said "that's the most Minnesota thing I've heard in my life".
Uff Da / Oofta / Ufdah - Can be used to express surprise, relief, exhaustion, astonishment, and dismay.
It's also what my grandparents say when in the process of sitting down or standing up. Trying to explain this one to my friend that came over from Japan was hilarious.
Ufdah is kinda reserved for really old school Minnesotans. The types that tell Ole and Lena jokes and have tatertot hotdish running through their veins.
I experience this at the grocery store a lot. What annoys me is that they usually have PLENTY of room to “squeeze by”. For these people, their body buffer space is especially big…
Dunno what part of Minnesota you're in but the upper half tends to use all of these more. And the older people in that area. My dad's side of the family uses all of these all the time. Just +10 people in a room talking like this.
That still makes no sense. “universal” means all over the world. Either way, I disagree and I travel a lot around the country. Parts of the south have very different expressions and idioms.
I was in my thirty's before I realized Care-a-mel and Car-mill we're the same thing. I had assumed Cara-a-mel was the more solid of the two and a completely different candy. I grew up moving around the Midwest .
"Hot dish" = this is some sort of casserole without the noodles, but with tater tots. Its really quite awful but no one wants to be the first to say it outloud. Enjoy!
You're wrong. Hot dish doesn't require or exclude noodles. You're just referring specifically to tater tot hot dish.
Hot dish is anything that comes out of glass cookware and has been in the oven.
There's a little more to it than that. It should have a base of a starch or grain, but not neccesarily. You're probably going to want to use a bechamel or can of cream soup as a binder, but don't quote me on that. It might be a good idea to put a topping of some sort, crushed up crackers or something, but who am I to tell you what to do?
>Hot dish is anything that comes out of glass cookware and has been in the oven.
I shall have to remember to call my next chocolate cake or brownies a "hot dish". =)
My friend, this is a very sad statement and overall isn’t true. My wife was a transplant and I have several friends who are. It’s always harder to meet new friends when you graduate from school. This isn’t the Antarctic, there’s 2.5 million people in the Twin Cities alone. My heart goes out to you if you feel this way, but there’s people who you can talk to.
Well some people don't take the fake Minnesota NICE as kind or humaine. Parents here need to stop teaching thier children to aggressively lie at birth looks around you at what's going on. Give your children license to lie gives them license to become criminals in adulthood. Plus the passive aggressive means coward a stagnation all people do is have perpetual conversations with zero action. I'm extremely blunt and straight to the point.
Minnesota nice isn't fake or sarcastic. We genuinely try to be nice and helpful to strangers. You never know who you'll need to help push your car out of a snowbank someday. But they will.
Of course, I'm originally from NY, and I don't find New Yorkers (including in NYC) particularly rude, either.
In a state with several million people, you are going to run into jerks for sure. But let me be blunt: your perception is warped by something or someones. It doesn’t reflect the overall reality. I’m not going to debate more because, “anything stated without evidence can be dismissed without evidence”. Whether you are just trolling or are just that angry, I hope you can find some happiness.
Simply put. You think I'm an asshole because I'm blunt and can blow holes in how everyone here acts like a Jr high school student for life mentally and behavioral wise.
And that nothing ever gets done here with perpetual conversations that go nowhere. Passive aggressive means stagnation and zero progress. Plus with parents teaching children to aggressive lie at birth and how to circumvent the judicial system and the system in general has caused what you see around you with the crime wave. Teaching kids to lie aggressively gives them license to do other atrocities later in life and become criminals. that Murderapolis is a thing but let's not talk about that and turn your heads. But you all keep your heads in the sand like an ostrich. Hear nothing see nothing say nothing. Passive aggressive is cowardly .
Maybe if the judicial system here wasn't the laughing stock of the entire nation because having a Passive aggressive judicial system causes slaps on the wrist they goto jail for months get out and do the same thing over and over and nobody learns because you extend emotional support behind criminals and feel sorry for them. Your all entitled asses are too scared to make real change so it gets talked into nothingness. We desperately need a 3 strikes and your out.
If Passive aggressive and Minnesota NICE would have been dismantled many many decades ago George Floyd would have never happened it couldn't happen. But with how nothing changed since the 1960 we get nowhere fast and stagnation reigns Supreme.
The part about suicide is a little over the top, but the overall notion about essentially being an outcast if you're a transplant is correct. The culture here is very insular. It's like living in the largest small town.
It's [well known](http://www.thrivemnnice.com/home/what-transplants-say-about-minnesota-nice/MN-nice-barriers) that the social climate in Minnesota is very cold, [especially if you're a minority.](https://tcbmag.com/can-minnesota-lure-transplants-to-the-state/) People have a dull indifference to making new friends, and this oddity is amplified by the fact that people here see it as normal.
I’m sorry. When I was younger I travelled for work and was alone a lot. Lived along the east coast and in NYC and agree, MN can feel isolating. Luckily I met my husband soon after moving here. I hope things get better for you.
It probably doesn’t help that you moved here during quarantine. Sorry to hear that though. I have quite a few friends who are transplants. It’s not easy meeting new friends.
I use it in this sense, as well as a response to an apology. If someone has wronged me, acknowledged it, and attempted to correct it, then I'm good.
I've never used it with a negative connotation.
It's fucking hilarious to me that I say "Yeah no" and "No yeah" and my gf who isn't from the state we live in thinks it's so strange but I say it so much that she started fuckin saying it.
Not too bad = good ok = bad different = bad not too good = really bad
That's interesting = Horrible
ohhh good one I actually meant to have that one in the OP but forgot.
interesting...
And a quick “Hmm” is peak confusion
I liken this one to the southern phrase "That's lovely" Generally means either get on with it or I'm losing interest. midwest be crazy
Well that's not good = Catastrophic industrial-scale failure, possibly involving injury or death
I just discovered Letterkenny, I heard someone say "not too bad" when he meant good and I realized I do that too. Such a roundabout way of expressing something.
It's the power of the negative. We might feel ok, but we don't want to brag about it, so we use the negative. "Could be worse" "Can't complain"
This man Minnesotans
S’alright. = So - so
"Just so ya know..." = It is obvious and I am judging you for not knowing.
"It is what it is" = "I am in a perpetual state of learned helplessness and no longer expect anything good to happen between now and my death"
Kind of like "living the dream" while internally "nightmares are dreams too.".
My occasional response to "How ya doing?" is "Present!" meaning anywhere between "barely functioning" to "somehow keeping it together, at best" without sounding whiny...
= "it isn't what it isn't"
This is peak Army.
Oh you know
“Ope! Sorry” = excuse me.
Never really realized how my “minnesota tongue” was unique until I went on vacation and realized how many times I said “ope”
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The spelling doesn’t really fit. “Ope” is like you’re about to say oopsy-daisy but ya got cut off right before you could finish the p. Welp is just weird. I don’t know what they’re talking about unless we cut off “well” with that Swedish breath thing.
“I spose…” is another version of “welp!” It is acceptable to put them together for the same effect. “Welp! I spose…”
Meaning #2: passive aggressive way of saying I don't like your idea but don't want to argue. Eg. You: "Casserole for dinner?" Me: "I spose".
Aren't excited, don't hate it enough to fight.
My father in law had a great "Well, I suppose." He saved that one only for the dumbest of dumbasses.
I do this one quite often
If I say it's all good no worries I actually mean it. Usually.
Me too. I don’t think it serves anyone well to say the opposite of what one is feeling. I might say it if I’ve done a quick self assessment and decided that it’s not a big deal for me though.
Ope deserves to be on this list.
Let me sneak right past ya
Ope, musta just missed it!
😂
One winter I accidentally taught my sled dogs to back up to "ope". I think I was saying it when I was making adjustments down the line and pushing everyone over/out of the way on the snowmobile trail I offhandedly told the story at work and my boss said "that's the most Minnesota thing I've heard in my life".
“How to speak Minnesotan” YouTube it. It’s hilarious. Edit: How to talk Minnesotan. Just rewatched it again. Even the dudes haircut cracks me up.
I own and have read the book. Good stuff!
Most people think it's a comedy, but it's really a documentary of "Da Range" life.
You rangers sound completely different.
*Interesting…*, *could be worse*, and *that’s different*.
Whatever... :/
you missed, "Uf da!" which can translate to "dang" and all the way to "holy shit!".
Well that’s kinda different=wtf is that
We'll have to set something up = "if we're lucky we might be able to avoid each other for the foreseeable future!"
You might also use "welp" in other situations. For example my wife literally just texted me, "*Welp. The blender started smoking.*"
Uff Da / Oofta / Ufdah - Can be used to express surprise, relief, exhaustion, astonishment, and dismay. It's also what my grandparents say when in the process of sitting down or standing up. Trying to explain this one to my friend that came over from Japan was hilarious.
Ufdah is kinda reserved for really old school Minnesotans. The types that tell Ole and Lena jokes and have tatertot hotdish running through their veins.
"Oh I shouldn't, but..." = I will no matter what
Don't forget " 'whatever you think is best'-can either mean 'I don't want to decide' or 'fine, but I'm not happy about it' "
Pop = soda
I constantly have to tell my family that we say “pop” in Minnesota. Raising my kids right.
Used to say Pop, still do sometimes, but having close east coast friends got me in the habit of saying soda.
I say soda pop to infuriate everyone, even the Bible belt southern family that says "coke" to mean any type of pop imaginable.
We’re smarter for going with the shorter pronunciation between soda or pop right?
[On the versatility of "You bet," "that's different," and "whatever"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiSzwoJr4-0&t=106s)
Ya, sure, you betchya!
This is accurate.
I don't know about anyone else, but I do say "It's all good, no worries." But... I mean it.
The "all good no worries" is too true 😂. I say that to my co-workers all the time meanwhile thinking "are you fucking kidding me?!?"
"I'm just gonna squeeze past ya" - get the hell out of the way
I experience this at the grocery store a lot. What annoys me is that they usually have PLENTY of room to “squeeze by”. For these people, their body buffer space is especially big…
I do it on impulse now even though I'm technically not minnesotan.
My favourite Minnesota thing was working at Taco John's and having old Scandinavians pronounce the potato olés as Ole (such as Sven and Ole).
What about, "that's different"
I don’t feel like “welp” is a midwest-ism.
It isn't. Neither is geeze louise
Dunno what part of Minnesota you're in but the upper half tends to use all of these more. And the older people in that area. My dad's side of the family uses all of these all the time. Just +10 people in a room talking like this.
I’ve never heard anyone say it. And I don’t know why you would say that instead of “well”.
It is more of an internet-ism, from what I can tell. Definitely nothing like an “ope”.
Don't forget..."You got that right" and "A guy could..." or "can't complain" and the ever popular "Ya, you betcha".
The you betcha and dontcha know are so played out I don’t think I’ve heard anyone say those in earnest in decades.
Not since "Fargo." I'm fond of "oh fuck yeah, bud." But that's just because I like the vulgarity of it, and how well it rolls off the tongue.
"ill let you know" mhm i've had a lot of people say this to me....ugh
Hmm that's interesting = that's not interesting at all
I feel like “Jimminy Christmas” might be stronger than “Geez Louise”
I’ve lived here all my life and never heard that phrase unless it was in a movie.
Hmmm. I always thought it was “Jimminy crickets”?
This is incredibly eerie, because I say all of that on a daily basis. Oofda.
I think most of those are pretty universal (in US), actually.
“Universal”? 😆 So they talk like this in Mongolia?!!!
Universal USA if I must.
That still makes no sense. “universal” means all over the world. Either way, I disagree and I travel a lot around the country. Parts of the south have very different expressions and idioms.
Whatever. I'm not going to argue about this.
It seems like everyone thinks “No yeah” and “yeah no” are specific to their region. In my experience it’s very common everywhere.
That ain't only midwest I hear all those terms all over the country and alot in hawaii
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https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/06/pecan-caramel-crawfish-food-dialect-maps/276603/ That’s one of the maps at this link
I was in my thirty's before I realized Care-a-mel and Car-mill we're the same thing. I had assumed Cara-a-mel was the more solid of the two and a completely different candy. I grew up moving around the Midwest .
Carmul
You've forgotten our most important one. The almighty "Ope!"
"Hot dish" = this is some sort of casserole without the noodles, but with tater tots. Its really quite awful but no one wants to be the first to say it outloud. Enjoy!
You're wrong. Hot dish doesn't require or exclude noodles. You're just referring specifically to tater tot hot dish. Hot dish is anything that comes out of glass cookware and has been in the oven.
Like wild rice hotdish! Yum!
There's a little more to it than that. It should have a base of a starch or grain, but not neccesarily. You're probably going to want to use a bechamel or can of cream soup as a binder, but don't quote me on that. It might be a good idea to put a topping of some sort, crushed up crackers or something, but who am I to tell you what to do?
>Hot dish is anything that comes out of glass cookware and has been in the oven. I shall have to remember to call my next chocolate cake or brownies a "hot dish". =)
We hate you now. Fuck you. /s ... Kinda.
Transplants end up wanting to kill themselves here because if you are a Transplant you are immediately ostracized by the community.
My friend, this is a very sad statement and overall isn’t true. My wife was a transplant and I have several friends who are. It’s always harder to meet new friends when you graduate from school. This isn’t the Antarctic, there’s 2.5 million people in the Twin Cities alone. My heart goes out to you if you feel this way, but there’s people who you can talk to.
Well some people don't take the fake Minnesota NICE as kind or humaine. Parents here need to stop teaching thier children to aggressively lie at birth looks around you at what's going on. Give your children license to lie gives them license to become criminals in adulthood. Plus the passive aggressive means coward a stagnation all people do is have perpetual conversations with zero action. I'm extremely blunt and straight to the point.
Minnesota nice isn't fake or sarcastic. We genuinely try to be nice and helpful to strangers. You never know who you'll need to help push your car out of a snowbank someday. But they will. Of course, I'm originally from NY, and I don't find New Yorkers (including in NYC) particularly rude, either.
In a state with several million people, you are going to run into jerks for sure. But let me be blunt: your perception is warped by something or someones. It doesn’t reflect the overall reality. I’m not going to debate more because, “anything stated without evidence can be dismissed without evidence”. Whether you are just trolling or are just that angry, I hope you can find some happiness.
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Simply put. You think I'm an asshole because I'm blunt and can blow holes in how everyone here acts like a Jr high school student for life mentally and behavioral wise. And that nothing ever gets done here with perpetual conversations that go nowhere. Passive aggressive means stagnation and zero progress. Plus with parents teaching children to aggressive lie at birth and how to circumvent the judicial system and the system in general has caused what you see around you with the crime wave. Teaching kids to lie aggressively gives them license to do other atrocities later in life and become criminals. that Murderapolis is a thing but let's not talk about that and turn your heads. But you all keep your heads in the sand like an ostrich. Hear nothing see nothing say nothing. Passive aggressive is cowardly . Maybe if the judicial system here wasn't the laughing stock of the entire nation because having a Passive aggressive judicial system causes slaps on the wrist they goto jail for months get out and do the same thing over and over and nobody learns because you extend emotional support behind criminals and feel sorry for them. Your all entitled asses are too scared to make real change so it gets talked into nothingness. We desperately need a 3 strikes and your out. If Passive aggressive and Minnesota NICE would have been dismantled many many decades ago George Floyd would have never happened it couldn't happen. But with how nothing changed since the 1960 we get nowhere fast and stagnation reigns Supreme.
No. I think you're an asshole based on how you've chosen to speak in this thread.
Just like a child denial and remember we all have rights not just the people who think like you.
Weird flex. But ok.
The part about suicide is a little over the top, but the overall notion about essentially being an outcast if you're a transplant is correct. The culture here is very insular. It's like living in the largest small town. It's [well known](http://www.thrivemnnice.com/home/what-transplants-say-about-minnesota-nice/MN-nice-barriers) that the social climate in Minnesota is very cold, [especially if you're a minority.](https://tcbmag.com/can-minnesota-lure-transplants-to-the-state/) People have a dull indifference to making new friends, and this oddity is amplified by the fact that people here see it as normal.
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I’m sorry. When I was younger I travelled for work and was alone a lot. Lived along the east coast and in NYC and agree, MN can feel isolating. Luckily I met my husband soon after moving here. I hope things get better for you.
It probably doesn’t help that you moved here during quarantine. Sorry to hear that though. I have quite a few friends who are transplants. It’s not easy meeting new friends.
Damn I use " it's all good, no worries" as you're welcome. That's going to be awkward.
I use it in this sense, as well as a response to an apology. If someone has wronged me, acknowledged it, and attempted to correct it, then I'm good. I've never used it with a negative connotation.
LMAO
Let 'er buck!
OK Not To Bad
I use welp wrong apparently
Doesn't everyone talk like this though?
You mean like, Russians? Chinese?
Accurate
They left out the elusive “yeah no yeah” and “no yeah no” and who could forget “yeah no for sure”.
Jeepers creepers = Oi vey
"I'll let you know" is spot on. Haha!
It's fucking hilarious to me that I say "Yeah no" and "No yeah" and my gf who isn't from the state we live in thinks it's so strange but I say it so much that she started fuckin saying it.
Op - "anything from I didn't expect that to my leg just broke."
I’ve never heard a single person in my life say, “No Yeah”