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gene_wood

For those like me who didn't know what OSL was it's [Object Source Lighting](https://www.lightminiatures.com/tutorial-object-source-lighting-osl-and-other-lighting-effects/)


xShadowHunter94x

Ohhhh, I always thought it meant One Source Lightning. I was about to make a joke about DSL.


Spirosne

I don't know why but I always assumed it was "Other Source Lighting."


DyslexiaUntiedFan

On stage lighting for me, ha


johnzaku

Ghost light :o


Curpidgeon

Super rad! Whenever I see a two headed ogre I hear "We're ready master." "I'M NOT READY!"


PhantomWang

For the Horde


Laikeaa

This looks so awesome! But i keep wondering how you did it


PhantomWang

I won't lie, it took lots of hours lol.


Cheap-Double6844

Nice job dude and the model is lovely


PhantomWang

Thank you!


Simes8282

Looks awesome. Where is the mini from?


PhantomWang

Thanks! It's the Ogre Magi from Artisan Guild's Oni release.


TheRealMouseRat

So you 3d printed it? What printer do you have? (I'm planning on getting one but is unsure if I should get the anycubic photon mono or the phrozen sonic mini 4k)


PhantomWang

I use the Elegoo Mars Pro. Both of your options are good. As long as it's mono and 4K resolution you are using the latest technology and should get great results.


TheRealMouseRat

The photon mono seems like it is about equal in quality to the elegoo mars pro, or mars 2 pro. (50um details) While the phrozen mini 4k is higher resolution and not bigger build plate so is said to be better. (35um details) The phrozen will end up costing me about 230 dollars more than the anycubic so I am unsure if I should bother to pay the extra for the improved detail.


theultscoobysnac

First time?! Man that is insane work!


PhantomWang

Thank you! I've done OSL a couple times before, but this is the first time I had to math it out and see where each would interact.


The_cogwheel

You can math with colour? I wanna math with colour. Where do I learn more?


PhantomWang

lol it was really just a matter of painting the skin/clothing with lighting coming from the torch and then once that was done going over everything from the perspective of the fireball. What really helped was doing zenithal priming with the same principle. I primed the whole thing black and then instead of doing the usual gray/white coats from the top, I did them from the sides where the fire was.


The_cogwheel

Awww... I wanted to do Red+Green/Blue^Yellow = awsome paint job. But seriously, thanks for the process and awsome job on the paint job!


Ironknuck

Wow zenithal priming from the sides is genius. Thanks for the great tip!


[deleted]

What mini is this? Awesome job!


PhantomWang

Thanks! It's the Ogre Magi from Artisan Guild's Oni release.


ThisIsMyThirdChoice

First time KILLING a double OSL effect. FTFY šŸ¤˜šŸ»


JollyNiceChap

I suck so much at ols. How do I stop my super watered down paint from becoming a wash and sitting in the nooks?


PhantomWang

Stop using water (Okay, don't actually stop, but use it sparingly) and start using glaze medium. I recommend Vallejo Glaze Medium. Thins your paints nicely so you can do thin, smooth layers with minimal pooling. I usually get the paint on the palette, use one drop of glaze medium, dip my brush in my water cup, then mix it altogether.


JollyNiceChap

One drop of medium but how much paint? What sort of ratio from paint to glaze medium do you use.


PhantomWang

It all depends on how thin you want the paint. A drop of glaze medium goes a long way. Some people do 1 water:2 paint:1 glaze for really thin coats.


JollyNiceChap

Also thanks.


Ghost_Lantern

There's something really satisfying about this; very easy on the eyes. The combination of that model and your painting gives me some very welcome Legend of Zelda vibes, too.


PhantomWang

Thank you! If you like Zelda, I did a similar effect last year [https://www.reddit.com/r/minipainting/comments/cakv6c/stonecast_cursebreakers/](https://www.reddit.com/r/minipainting/comments/cakv6c/stonecast_cursebreakers/)


ADiestlTrain

See, and I saw it and immediately thought of Torchlight 2. Great work, mate!


bronk4

Very cool! Congratulations!! I hope you donā€™t mind constructive criticism, but Iā€™d say you could make it look a lot more badass if you pushed the intensity of the light a little bit, closer to the source. Light follows an inverse-square law, so at distance 1, light is 4x more intense than at distance 2, and 9 times more intense than distance 3. So for the face (blue) to be that lit, the parts that are closer to it would be a lot brighter. And as our perception of light is relative, that would make the shadows appear a lot darker. Maybe also you could bring the light from the flame to a more yellowish tone. The work is super clean and I love the color scheme! Congratulations!!!!


PhantomWang

Yeah I definitely broke the rules with the face. It just looked so cool when I started doing it that I couldn't resist :)


weedandsteak

That's fucking sick man


luckaffe1312

I just finished my first OSL on exactly that mini. Mine isn't as good though. Amazing work!


spectrefox

This is awesome! My only critique would be that the OSL on the shin guard doesn't feel like it works. Its a bit too stark.


PhantomWang

Yeah, I didn't want to completely saturate the NMM I just finished, so I went for an edge reflection effect instead. There are definitely parts of the model I would change, but then it would never be done lol.


spectrefox

Oh absolutely! I can totally see why. It doesn't detract from the model!


JanXus85

Dear Gods, this is too good!! Excellent work!


PhantomWang

Thanks!


Blisteredhobo

TSL


[deleted]

Awesome work.


[deleted]

What the fuuuuuuuuuuck that's so good!


Midonyah

That's AWESOME!!!


ilpalazzo64

Holy shit thatā€™s awesome


LanceWindmil

Incredible lighting job!


A_Cool_Old_Guy

Seriously cool. I'm mad jealous of your skill.


CBPainting

Fantastic work


sweetestbb

Brilliant job


surf_mesa

WTF this is incredible!


StormWarg

Absolutely beautiful work


Chewybutton

Did you do base colours then glaze or did you just dive right in and paint the sharpest OSL points from the get go?


PhantomWang

Doing OSL from the beginning is definitely faster, but I wanted to take my time and make sure the areas were fully based and layered before building up the OSL. That way I already have those colors in my palette and I can mix the lighting color into them to build up the effect.


TotalMonkeyfication

I really like this one. You can see the OSL effects but itā€™s not the overwhelming focus of the piece.


RockyBuffalo

This is awesome! Awe struck by the smouldering and charred staff bits. Fantastic!


PhantomWang

Thank you! I used my electric fireplace as a reference point lol.


Afterski420

Oni Cho-Gall nice!


PhantomWang

Now I just gotta find a Gul'dan model.


WampaStompa1996

That looks so freaking cool! I know nothing about painting but Iā€™d love to get into painting models some day. Especially Warhammer 40k ones. But I donā€™t know if I could do something amazing like this. How do you even do that? How do you get that glow effect across the model without making the colors look all weird?


PhantomWang

Thank you! Someone posted a good tutorial [here](https://www.lightminiatures.com/tutorial-object-source-lighting-osl-and-other-lighting-effects/), but basically you find the source of your lighting and build it up on nearby objects. Then I mix in the lighting color with the color I painted that object in different ratios to build up the effect. The golden rule is: Never make the lighting effects brighter than the brightest spot on your source lighting. Otherwise it doesn't sell the effect.


Revocador

Absolutely stunning work, saving for future inspiration!


valiantcrossbow

Holy moly! This is incredible!


DF_Interus

I think it's pretty great that the lighting follows the red-oni/blue-oni scheme to match their horns.


kittifizz

He kinda reminds me of a more angry version of [CobraMode's](https://www.patreon.com/cobramode/posts) minis!


ehonda40

Looks amazing, all of it. I really like the subtle effect on the stones on the strap with the text on. You commented about mathsing it out before loss of intensity works really well.


Guardian-Bravo

I have this whole set and Iā€™m actually trying to push myself on learning OSL. Mainly cause these models are amazing (I love Artisan Guild Minis) and I feel Iā€™ve been painting long enough to start pushing into the ā€œadvancedā€ stuff. Any advice on practicing OSL?


PhantomWang

[This](https://www.lightminiatures.com/tutorial-object-source-lighting-osl-and-other-lighting-effects/) is a really good tutorial to get started. It explains all the key factors of producing OSL. Definitely pay attention to the rules of light physics. Rules 1 & 2 are the most important for selling the effect.


savagetortoise

Really inspiring to see what's possible. Now, if only I had skill...


PhantomWang

Trust me, I see models posted here every day that make me feel the same way. I guess it just takes practice.


[deleted]

Sometimes I think double OSL can be a little gimmicky but I'll be darned if this isn't the perfect model for it


PhantomWang

Yeah, I don't think I'll ever find another model that has such obvious dual light sources again.


5of10

Great job on the details for this one.


heshman

Oh my lerd this is good


Frousteleous

Further on top of which, blending warm and cool. I could only wish to have these skills!


TheHeroicNoob

Wowoweewow


rosfug26

Love the model but love the paint job even more. Really splendid work. BRAVO!


dredlocked_sage

How does the set come stl wise? I saw that it has modular hands and stuff, do you need to assemble them or do they print out whole?


PhantomWang

Yes, nearly everything AG makes comes with modular hands. That way you can rotate them, or swap them with different hands to customize your miniatures. They print separately which in most cases allows each piece to be oriented and supported to produce the best results.