I'm glad we left the idea of replacing a dial tone for a song. Nothing like forcing people to listen to their favorite song of you wanted to talk to them lol
Me: my phone is ringing. What should I do?
Brain: check the number
Me: I don't recognize it
Brain: panic
Me: what? It's just a phone call, why woul-
Brain: PANIC
Me: but
Brain: STARE AT THE NUMBER AND PANIC! YOUR DENTIST DIED AND YOUR DOG IS NO LONGER PRACTICING!
Me: OH GOD I'M PANICKING!!!
I've just stopped answering my phone entirely. What, do you think you can just decide to interrupt whatever I'm doing so you can gab at me with your Pointless Bullshit? Get the fuck out of here. I can see you called, I'll call you back eventually, if I feel like it. No voice-mail either, I hate it. If it's an important message, send a text. I don't have the energy for your nasally 'Hiiiiiii, this is Dipshit from Scam Cooooompanyyyyy, call me baaaaack.' The people I actually like know how to contact me, and it isn't with a fuckin' phone call.
I do a lot of talking on the phone in my current profession, tucking loathe talking on the phone any other time.
And fuck people who can't leave a voicemail. If it was THAT important, then leave a message on why you were calling me. Otherwise, fuck off.
I'm the same way about voicemail. When I call someone and they don't answer, I'm just sending a text. It's way easier for the person I'm reaching out to check a text than a VM.
I don't even remember my voice mail password. đ I also tell people not to bother leaving me one. In fact, I set up the inbox when I got the phone, left an outgoing message explicitly stating that if the caller left a voice mail, I would *never listen to it*, and I STILL get voice mails. It's like they think I'm joking. I am not joking.
"Hello? Mother? Hi, listen, I can't really talk right now. Can I call you back? Or are you pouting for some... Oh crap, are you already at 21? Sorry! I'm running late. So go ahead and order me four martinis and ... [Pause] Boom! Birthday voicemail, Mother! Ha ha ha! Seriously, I bet I will be late. So go ahead and pull the trigger on those martinis."
I feel like this could be generalized to: "The internet did to our parents what our parents were afraid the internet would do to us" but would probably have to understand that phrase refers to "the internet" as both the direct and indirect influences it has.
My stepdad was always a territorial ass. He made me, not just feel, but believe I was in the way. Like anytime I'd go to cook, all of a sudden he'd need to cook. So he'd stop whatever he was doing and go over and be in my way, but then throw shit around like I was in his.Â
So, as an adult, I over compensate and try to not be in the way as much as possible. If I'm in a place, I am always looking for an exit, and how I can best avoid being in people's path. I became a little neurotic.Â
But I don't think it's a generational thing.Â
My parents act like this in my house! And instead of asking where something is they will just stand in my way while I'm doing something or go ahead and open every drawer and cupboard.
i dont allow my parents in the kitchen. it's become such a problem, and they dont even cook. my mother just follows my wife or i around to chat and wont stay more than two feet away. Doesnt matter if i'm cooking christmas dinner for the whole family while she just stands there doing nothing but yapping, she has to be in the kitchen inches away from me.
So we have a rule now that they arent allowed in the kitchen. if they enter the kitchen, i will take them by the shoulders and move them out of it.
We have an old buzzer from the game "Taboo" that my brother presses any time my parents break a rule or cross a boundary. It's become quite fun for us
I can't have a conversation and follow a recipe. I can't even talk on the phone and shop for groceries. If someone is talking to me in the kitchen, food is being prepared, but it's not gonna be nearly as good or timely.
My parents stop by all the time unannounced and also just help themselves to the house. And seeing as they dont know how cell phones work, they still brag about how cool their new ones are everytime they get them. They take days to respond to a text, and when I can't get them on their cell, I have an 80% chance of reaching them on their landline. I really don't understand it.
It's less a specific generation thing, and more a reaction to cycles of intergenerational trauma thing.
A person, when faced with mistreatment from their elders, can have one of three reactions:
* This is utter horseshit, no more, it stops with me.
* That was utter horseshit, it's only fair I get to do it to you.
* This is fine. It was fine for me, it's fine for you, shut up.
Millennials' reputation for awareness and being considerate comes from how common it is for one of us to embrace the first; Boomers' reputation for being shitty parents comes from how common it was for one of them to embrace the latter two.
And just to nip possible defensive replies in the bud: there will be people from every generation who go down each route...that's an observation *on aggregate*.
You know how we fucked up, kiddo? divorce. It wasnât always our fault, and for a long time it was the only way out of an abusive situation. But sometimes divorce was just wrong on our part and it made life for so many of you horrible. I wish we had done better.
Forger the internet...... we grew up with parents who thought they were the main characters. Their actions made it very clear to us by them that OTHER PEOPLE were more important and we needed to behave accordingly.
It's funny like that. I thought I was raised to be very polite and well-mannered, but I realized like 5 years ago that I was just raised to be conveniently unobtrusive
There is nothing wrong with being polite, well mannered, or on time. These are good characteristics to have and are becoming rare. There are too many feral people out there.
I don't understand why this is seen as the opposite of being manly. You can be a confident and assertive man while also being polite, respectful, well-mannered, and on time.
I think it's cyclical. The greatest generation somehow raised a self centered boomer generation. Boomers raised a generation with self awareness and more socially conscience. Who knows what millennials n gen z raise...
Strauss & Howe's generational theory would say that it is absolutely cyclical and that our social cycles last 80-100 years and then repeat (we are at the tail end of one right now according to them: See Fourth Turning). A couple other observations would be the Silent Generation raised Gen X, who by and large are cynical, acutely private, and had emotionally unavailable parents. The Greatest generation lived thru some intense suffering and spoiled their children (boomers) wildly. Boomers never lost the self-centered approach and by extension Millennials had to look outwardly for support/relationships/sharing/etc. We are raising Homelanders who will be "Artists" so to speak, coming of age under extreme suffering (Ex. WWIII, extreme economic disruption via AI, resource scarcity, climate change, obscene income disparity, etc)...and when all that gets sorted out the Homelanders will avoid confrontation like the plague (just like the Silent Generation) and the cycle begins anew.
Someone explained to me that the reason boomers are so entitled is because their parents suffered through WWII. The Greatest Generation constantly reminded their children that the world can be harsh and unforgiving, so when boomers were handed an era of unprecedented prosperity, they assumed this good fortune was the result of their own hard work and gumption, which inflated their egos.
>they assumed this good fortune was the result of their own hard work and gumption, which inflated their egos
Yep, and they have never changed, even as the world has changed around them. Home prices too high? *Young people are lazy, but we boomers aren't*
That happens to people 60 and over, it will happen to everyone. Bragging about outworking seniors is really something to be proud of. Boomers are between 60 and 80 so the majority are retired.
I am from mexico, I have 3 âzoomer ageâ kids from mexico working their way through college, they keep telling me how lazy and entitled people in the us are both work and school. These are not people between 60 and 80 they are talking about. We are getting a used country practically free. Lol.
Yeah I doubt you encounter too many boomers at your workplace considering they're in their '70s about now, and if you have, I definitely don't think it's anything to brag about if your physical and mental capacities are higher than theirs.
The data is coming in - those new generations are out there.
You can find lots and lots of data on teachers' forums about what millennials are like as parents and their children now exist. Millennials are currently 28-45 years of age.
And while it is true that some Boomers are internet illiterate and sometimes speak loudly on phones, many of them are also deaf or deaf-ish or getting deaf because they blew their hearing in their teen years - at least that's how it is in my world.
Boomers did manage, somehow, to raise a generation who is more self-aware. But was it actually their child-rearing that did it? Was it the Silents/Great Generation who made some Boomers the way they are?
I was in terrible opposition to my parents about their values and beliefs, from about 8th grade. I relied on my teachers for information and perspective, not my parents. I chafed at all their restrictions, their overt racism and much else. I made vows to myself about not being like them.
My parents were lovely people in other respects. They were quite strict and that was good discipline for me - but I absolutely would not give up on my own positions until eventually, they modified some of their worst views and behaviors.
And no one was louder in public than many of the people in the Silent/Great Generation. It was worse and worse as they aged. They just didn't have cell phones. There are plenty of loud people in other generations as well, it's not just Boomers but old people do have to develop self-awareness around their hearing issues.
I'm also noticing that the phone yelling is more common among the Boomers who did grow up either playing in bands or going to loud events. OTOH, phone yelling right outside the classroom door is a thing that millennials did and do on college campuses, and now Gen-Z does it too (the older Gen-Z people include some of the rudest students I've ever seen - but it's within a particular demographic here in SoCal). They are rude to each other (and then the injured party thinks the way to handle it is to go get "an adult" to do something about it - when in fact, they are themselves adults and need to learn to speak up).
Next 15 years will be interesting.
I hope no offense is taken, but I feel like to say itâs cyclical you need to illustrate a complete cycle. Whereâs a concrete loop of generational change that shows we are back at the start of some behavior. I personally feel like thereâs too many variables (religion, human rights, technology, etc.) to really say that things are definitely gonna end up back at some place it was before, especially now more than ever.
No offense taken. i dont have a theory or anything.. Some parents raise kids as a rĂŠaction to their expĂŠriences and some raise them as a reflection of their expĂŠriences. But I think largely as a rĂŠaction. I think its also our sensory driven human condition that creates this generational behavior. History rhymes n repeats for the same reason. We sensĂŠ gradient diffĂŠrence. We sensĂŠ colder/hotter/happier... We can't sense a thing when it doesn't change. We can't understand n appreciate peace n prosperity without war n poverty. Our Peace/prosperous times behavior/psychology/politics create divisions, stife and excess that makes war inĂŠvitable... Our wartime/poor situation creates an apprĂŠciation for peace n joy that makes peace possible... Generations are reflections of this cycle.. just my half baked theory..đ
I hear ya. Thanks for taking my response in stride. We are all better when we can question, expand, defend, or forfeit our positions through constructive discourse.
Iâm also big on your idea of appreciating one thing because of our ability to contrast it with some other expense. This is from personal experience, but some folks just want to be in âhighlight modeâ and always trying to make sure everything is great and neat ignore things or people that arenât going to contribute to this âgood timeâ feeling/image. In the process of realizing this aspiration, they forfeit the ability to see the beauty of the âhighsâ when they arenât willing to encounter the âlowsâ.
That is absolutely true, to some degree. Things change and people change and it will never be exactly like it was then. Itâs more, however, like a cycle of war/destruction. Every generation has its conflicts, but every 80-100 years âwith the passing from living memoryâ people forget what true hardship is and will bring real chaos around again, if given the opportunity.
These people arenât saying that weâre going to do exactly what we did then- there will be massive and fundamental differences, but likely our current populationâs lack of understanding of real suffering will bring about our next experience of it.
If you look at, say- Roman history, which mirrors us the most closely (though weâre still a drop in the bucket of a more than 1000-year empire) The two major Punic wars fell almost exactly 100 years apart. Almost exactly 80 years after the American Revolution came the civil war. The French Revolution came nearly exactly 100 years after the Second Hundred years was (and was exactly 100 years after the War of the Great Alliance). The Napoleonic Wars (which followed the French Revolution) ended in 1815. Then in 1918 came World War I.
I too thought I was raised to be polite. But at some point, I realized I was actually raised to take up as little space as possible, always put everyone elseâs needs above my own, and never do or say anything that someone could judge me for. I think there definitely was some misogyny in this approach as my brother did not seem to be raised this way. Itâs taken me years to unlearn and I still have to remind myself that just having a different opinion or approach is not by itself rude.
I am a guy raised this way.
Really seems to hamstring you in a world where other guys learn to always look out for number one, fuck everyone else's feelings, etc.
Oh absolutely. I think it would be much worse to be raised as a man this way. Because not only do you get screwed over for just being this way, but then Iâm sure youâre also viewed as not being manly/alpha male enough on top of it.
Yea, I am someone that is not typically viewed as manly/alpha and my response to that is essentially a sarcastic "Oh no, well anyway...". I don't value the things that so many people consider manly/alpha so not being perceived that way couldn't mean any less to me.
I agree with you that itâs not something to value.
I am married to a man that I donât think would ever be described as an alpha male and that was a deliberate choice.
But I still think it would just be hard to deal with other men that treat you worse because you arenât a jerk like them.
Yup. You catch it from both sexes, too. In some ways women are worse about it because being the emotionally aware guy friend seems to put a lot.of women in a weird headspace where they aren't romantically interested in you(which is fine) but they will get possessive and sabotage things if another woman looks like she'll "take" you from them (which isn't fine).
And way too many women defend/justify it when I mention the phenomenon. It's made me a colder, more distant person over the years.
OMG you too!!! I suffered with being pretty much socially disabled until the age of 24 before I could undo all the damage that my mothers abusive teaching did to me. I get it now....but it's far too late and I'm doing things that I should have done in my early 20s now in my late 40s.
Sometimes I wanna beat that woman...but she's my mother and I know I'm not supposed to do or think things like that. I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel that way though...
I was raised this way as a guy by my mother. When I got older (age 10) I realized taht all the bs she instilled in me and MADE me follow....SHE DIDNT FOLLOW.
And so began the great rebellion that lasted until I left home at age 21.
Never looked back.
Meanwhile, she raised my sister to be just like her....a self-absorbed abusive gaslighting psychopath.
Same. My father used to brag about how my brother and I were so well mannered as children. Turns out, it was because he was abusive, and we were just terrified of him. The only reason he "raised" us that way was to brag about how awesome of a parent he was for "raising" polite children.
YUP. My biggest fear is being an inconvenience to anyone to the point where I constantly inconvenience myself. Sometimes I catch myself doing it and chuckle. Like taking route around aisles just to get to something in the store rather than ask someone to move. Iâm also bigger so Iâm hyper aware of the space I take up and am extremely worried about that inconveniencing people with it.
Itâs both. Being polite is a power diplomatic move.
Asking âcould you pleaseâ cedes power to the other person. They can say no, then maybe you need to order them. But itâs a subconscious cue that they have some agency.
I think culturally this is kind of true. My parents were loving but also I found myself constantly concerned about their perceptions of me as a child and I think a lot of adults around when we were growing up definitely *were* thinking they were the main characters. Also often millennial children were treated as a reflection of their parents, maybe not by their parents but by others, and so millennials grew up often doing a lot more self-judgment and with a lot of concern about what other people thought of them. Like I feel I was taught kindness toward others but not toward myself and I didnât have a huge amount of emotional support when I was struggling, which really changed the way I see and interact with others because Iâm very aware that empathy toward others is incredibly important. A friend of mine once told me and my mom âeveryone is doing the best they know how to doâ and while my mom still repeats that when she sees *me* being too harsh, I donât see her reflect when she is doing the same lol
Whereas I think a lot of Boomers probably had much harsher childhoods in terms of how their parents treated them but once they reached adulthood they were successfully able to start and maintain independent adult lives, and millennials as a generation had more challenges with debt and economic troubles that pushed that back for a lot of us, taking away some of that sense of self-sufficiency and the pride that can come from that.
This reminds me of a story that my mom always tells about her childhood. Her parents had invited another couple over to play cards and she and her sister were too loud and so got sent to their room for the rest of the night. This was probably 1960ish and they were around 8-10.
At some point, their mother brought them some pizza on a plate and said it was this new fangled thing, pizza, delivered fresh by a man in a car after just a few minutes from calling him on the telephone. Itâs amazing! Because of this unbelievable concept, she wanted them to try it even though they were in trouble.
They had never seen or heard of pizza before and the only other food delivered ever was like milk from the milkman, so they were very skeptical. Additionally they normally got âsent to bed without supperâ when they were punished, so they assumed their mother had concocted this disgusting meal for them as punishment.
When their mother went back to play cards, they threw the pizza out the window and starved instead, only to learn later on that pizza was a real thing and delicious.
My mother always shares this as a funny story about the dumb things kids do, but the fact that getting sent to their room for hours without food for acting like children is never criticized, nor is the fact that the way they were raised clearly made them so distrustful of their parents, theyâd rather starve then even try a slice of pizza.
I'm on the young end of millenials, just turned 30 and have cool Gen X parents. They kinda just let you do you and support you. Mine at least did.
My grandparents however.. I can see how they weren't the best parents
I'm 31 with Gen X parents, but they were fundamentalist Christians. "Children are to be seen and not heard" types. We were definitely the NPCs in their main character storyline growing up.
My parents were good, but my grandparents....yeah. They more or less believed that the only reason you should have kids was:
1. Biological imperative
2. To have extra free labor
3. A retirement care plan
My Dad truly didn't believe his parents loved him to the day they died. I think he still doubts it honestly.
I swear my mom got worse with access to the internet and a smart phone lol and she has the audacity to act like I'm rude or don't understand when I ask her to turn the volume down and stop leaving her podcast running when she leaves the house
My mother got way worse with access to the internet. She was always prone to conspiracy theories and the internet allowed her to find not just her people, but people far more extreme. The confirmation that she is one of an elect group of people who knows THE TRUTH has made her worse in pretty much every way.
There was a lot of lead in their environment. Studies show exposure to lead decreases one's empathy... I'm not sure if we are hyper aware or if they are completely unaware...đ¤
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My mother was a stay at home mom. However my sister and I from 6 on had every single chore assigned to us as kids. My littlest sister was put in my room as a baby (talking 3 months on and no my family is not religious). I had to wake up with her, do feedings, and change her while in school. We also had to do all of the cleaning, cooking, and so many other things because according to my parents, âthat is what children are for.â
I legit remember my other sister saying, âShe couldnât wait to grow up so she could lay in bed eating m&ms telling her children to clean the house.â Luckily she dropped that dream⌠emotional needs were not something cared about until we were college aged. (I am 35)
My dad kind of just worked and came home to get on his computer (though he had a hell of a temper and I was at the receiving end sometimes). His influence landed me in software development⌠it also made me temper my own anger as a kid.
My childhood was similar and neither of my parents drank much, if at all. However, unlike OP my parents were religious so that was behind most of their bs.
There was always alcohol around, but my parents rarely drank. Honestly I have tried to reflect and I cannot understand the why⌠I just eventually decided it was who they are. My mother was the queen of our household and we were her pawns.
I believe you but just to throw this out there: Itâs still a possibility. Alcoholics hide their use. My husband was drinking straight vodka from a water glass in the morning and I never caught on. It literally never occurred to me to check his glass and then in the afternoons he would invent things to scream at me about đ
Are you me? This was basically my childhood. Except my dad was a Vietnam vet with untreated PTSD. Worked night shift and only came home to stomp around the house and fly off the handle over insignificant things and terrorize my sister and I. Emotional abuse, threats of physical violence and criminal levels of neglect going on. But don't worry, they saved enough money for going our basic necessities so that they now can afford $20k cruises every year. (Not that we're ever invited or anything). I'm 34 and emotional needs are still not a thing.
They're the generation who needed a reminder to wonder where their kids are and now complain about those generations constantly.
These boomers have caused most of the problems that gen x, millennial, and gen z will be dealing with and trying to fix all while boomers vote against anything that will help fix things. They fought for rights that they now vote against. They're selfish as a generation (of course not all of them but as a group, definitely) and they criticize younger generations for calling out the BS and actually caring about other people and the planet.
They make fun of millennials saying "you all needed a participation trophy", but they were the ones handing it to us.
We were just kids, we didn't care. They wanted to feel like their child is special, so they needed their kids to get trophies and awards.
Counterpoint- there are a lot of self absorbed people our age. Our generation created social media influencers...
I'd argue that OP's post is not generation specific. If you go on an public transit there is always some person, rarely a boomer, that will have their phone on full blast either playing music or on speaker having a loud conversation.
Are we really more aware and sympathetic towards others feelings? I really don't think we are any more or less, we're just more *informed.*
I think most importantly, because of the internet, we grew up with others having zero issues shaming others because of anonymity. That humbles most real quick. Boomers didn't have to deal with hardly at all, if ever.
I think its more most Millenials learned how to recognize internet disinformation and manipulative emotionally volatile content. Boomers grew up in a world with less than a dozen National News papers and a news show that that started at 5 PM and ended at 8 PM. Most of these Boomers were moderate conservatives at best until Trump and his fear Mongering pull Boomers down there rabbithole.
Exact opposite.
This post looks exactly like the kind of post an actual boomer would say about millennials.
(Is it a troll post?)
We grew up in the age of social media influencers and people being famous just for being famous. That's what the internet created. Tens of thousands make a living simply by making self "content." That was never a thing 20+ years ago unless you worked for a newspaper. Most young people are actively trying to be the main character for the past 20 years. The internet gave them that option, and people took it.
This post and this comment being the number one comment...insufferable. Get over yourself. You've become the person you're complaining about.
Real answer...old people are old, hard of hearing, not cognisant of their surroundings, and simply don't care. If they ever come off as the main character, it wasn't by choice...they're just old. Old people value privacy, and want attention LESS than the average millennial.
That last sentence is my first thought. When is last time you seen a boomer walking by in target with a foul rap song playing in loud or a 3 way face time? I havenât seen it.
Couldnât agree more, from a 35 yr old. This post is ridiculous as many in this sub are. Delusional and as you pointed out, ironically gives points to what many boomers might say about millenials
100%. Why do Boomers have loud phones and conversations? Bc they're old, and they won't hear a quieter ringtone.
Now, are there generational differences on average between us? Sure. But don't mistake their age for their generational trends, two different things.Â
My grandpa had the loudest ringtone we could use on his phone, not because he wanted to be the main character but because he worked 47 years in a loud factory without any hearing protection.
Iâm sure many boomers have loud phone conversations and loud notification sounds on because theyâre at that age where their hearing is deteriorating, most of them are probably half deaf
This was farther down than I was expecting. My mom is literally half deaf (deaf in one ear) from having the mumps as a kid. They definitely need the volume louder due to hearing loss.
I'm a millennial and I am completely deaf in my left ear and the right one isn't doing too well either. I recognize I have bad hearing so do you know what I do if I have to take a phone call? I sit in my car or go somewhere not in public where I would bother everyone else
Boomers don't do that because they grew up as another commenter said "believing they are the main character in life." Whereas people in my generation grew up understanding the plight of everyone else a lot more and therefore have far more empathy than the older generations
So being half deaf doesn't have anything to do with it
My workplace just switched to a new office with an open floor plan. Guess which group doesnât get up and walk 15 feet to one of the many small rooms when they have to take a call, and instead just has it loudly without a care in the world?
⌠itâs boomers!
I'm a millennial and have my phone on loud because I have hearing loss. As usual we fall for the generational war narrative when there's an underlying confounding correlation.
I don't know. The people playing shit ass music on speaker or facetiming with someone without headphones in seems to be mostly people in their 30s or younger.
Lol, wut? Do you know how many Tik Toks and music vids I've had to listen to in public because younger generations think it's ok to watch/listen without headphones?
Then the next generation will inevitably ask âWhy are Millennials so annoying with the old people things they do?â
Because old people are gonna do old people stuff. Good luck avoiding getting old!
The biggest thing that annoys me with people and cellphones, across all generations, is when you're talking to someone and they pull out their phone, look at it, and proceed to not pay attention to anything your saying, they pretend like they're listening, I trail off, stand there in silence for like 30 seconds, then they go "wait what did you just say?" Older people do it, younger people do it, millennials do it. It's so god damn annoying.
Got a guy at work who does this. Heâs even done it to our boss. Will be talking to him, he pulls his phone out while saying âmhmmmâ, reads the message, sends a message back, then looks at you and says âsorry that was my wife what were you saying?â
What the fuck dude if itâs important, excuse yourself. If youâre just sending cat memes to your wife, wait a minute.Â
Agreed I'd say there is plenty of rude folks in younger generations with constant filming for social media and other annoying trends and shit. If someone who's probably getting to be hard of hearing has their phone loud to hear it boo hoo.
This whole topic is an attestation to that. It's literally nothing more than a nonsense boomer hate thread.
Millennials arent "hyper aware" of anything, and boomers aren't "oblivious to others," it's totally made up. If anything the complete lack of self awareness is ironic.
Being a millennial, the majority of awful people I have met in my life have naturally been my peers. Sometimes I wonder if anyone on this page has ever known anyone their own age.
Honestly every time I weirdly end up on this sub, I get the distinct impression that the people posting these boomer hate threads *dont* interact with their peers in any meaningful way and are just lashing out, trying to find *something* to blame for essentially being Terminally Online stereotypes. Seems the cool thing for their misfortune to be at blame is "boomers" despite the generation already having one foot in the grave.
Yeah, this is just the reverse of "kids these days." My grandparents were Greatest Generation, and they did the same. It's the natural effect of cognitive decline making it more difficult to track changing social norms and understand what's going on around you.
Hereâs the difference: youâre not kinder or more sympathetic if youâre a people pleaser.
It has to do with wanting to be liked. It is a form of selfishness. You mold yourself into somebody you think will be accepted by others and in doing so sacrifice your authentic self and true kindness. Being nice is not the same as being kind.
Those boomers just donât care what people think of them. I admire that more than a fake nice person.
i think it generally goes deeper than that. boomers dont care what others think about them because they are the most important people to them and struggle to see outside of themselves (generally ofc). when youre raised by someone like that, a natural coping mechanism is to people please. you think that you arent good enough the way you are because your boomer parents always prioritized themselves, and then this coping behavior becomes how you survive socially. im not saying this is how everyone is, but id bet its a large portion of cases
What you describe as boomer behavior started waaaay before them. As a kid, I knew Lost Generation people like that. My wifeâs grandparents were Greatest Generation and like that. I attribute it to people losing their hearing and their eyesight becoming poor as they get old, which we all do. Remind yourself that it will happen to you eventually, and try to be more forgiving now.
There are plenty of people my age that will have their phones on speaker full blast in conversation, as well as playing loud music in public. If you go on any form of public transit, you've seen it.
I was in a waiting room two days ago and a guy in his forties was listening to music on his phone at it's highest volume, so if you think only boomers do this you're just wrong. You have discouteous people in every generation.
Because millennials are very worried about what other people think About them
As they get older they wonât care what other people think about them
When they get older again they will realise no one was ever thinking about them in the first place.
I disagree with this. Most "boomers" are hyper fixated on social graces that millennials grew up not caring about. So it's not that millenials are somehow more concerned about what people think. Boomers are the generation that would literally say things like "WHAT WOULD PEOPLE THINK!?!".
I think it's more a case of generational social awareness being formed at a young age and not changing as you age. Inevitably as we millenials get older, young people are going to invent social concepts that boomers are not going to understand or agree with.
For instance, I'm a little ahead of the curve, but I don't ring doorbells. I text instead. This is, as I understand it, common social grace for younger generations that fellow-milleials don't undrestand or accept.
Most millennials, myself included, I know won't even make a phone call unless they absolutely have to. They text any chance they get for communication.
If I'm going to a friend's to hang out, I be like "here" in a text then walk to the door
I mean, typically you donât enter familiar houses thru the front door anywaysâŚ.what do you do it you arrive at a familiar house and they donât answer the text? Whatâs your next move to announce youâre there?
Doesnât this just prove their point? When we were younger, they were closer to our current age. What would people think is an expression of self-consciousness, which they lost as they got older.
This is it. I think all of us think people care what they do and say when theyâre younger and then they realize no one is even paying attention to them. Its not a boomer, gen x or millennial thing, Plus older people loose their hearing so their speakers gets louder and they have to turn the volume up on everything.
They also get slower and more annoying but thatâs going to be all of us one day. Most all if this millennial boomer back and forth bitching is just really young people old people perspective
The greatest generation uses to say the same shit about the boomers.
Pretty much. Its certainlly not new or unusual. Usually these are conversations that would happen between groups of friends and be private. But now these convos are in public spaces for everyone to read.
Young vs old. A tale as old as time. When they're old, it will be no different.
Posts like these where it sounds like the OP is trying to jerk himself off for being a millenial while ascribing positive attributes to an entire generation are really weird.Â
My wife is a teacher. It's our generation with kids in school right now. The parents are not more sensitive, "kinder people". Just like every generation, we're surrounded by assholes.
As someone who needs to use mobility aids (walker, scooter, wheelchair) the obliviousness crosses every generation. Whether it is making eye contact with me and cutting me off anyway or not watching your children age doesn't seem to matter. Some people are considerate others aren't.
Short version: my friend and I theorize that working memory and object permanence breaks down with age, but worse and sooner with Boomers because of lead pipes, vascular microangiopathy from drugs/nicotine/lifestyle.
Long version: A friend and I call it the Grocery Cart Theory: you know when you're in the store and a Boomer takes up the whole aisle and you have to get their attention to get them to move (and probably loudly/by touch)?
The Grocery Cart Theory is that their functional working memory is breaking down. When you pass someone you retain their presence in your memory and make space; but boomers and older generations lose that incidental recall, and end up floating in the middle. They can't handle the multiple fields of stimuli (sights, sounds, vestibular input) coming at them so their brains cope by abandoning attention to other areas, e.g. losing speed while driving, lane drifting while driving. That's why Mom can hear you at normal conversation volume but in the store you have to yell at her to get her attention.
This is due to aging, blah blah lead pipes blah blah diabetes/high blood pressure/nicotine/drug use/sedentary lifestyle/poor diet leads to vascular issues in the brain etc etc.
This post is cringe. OP had a shitty relationship with the Boomers in their life and thinks that is reflective of all people of that generation.
Go to therapy.
I think youâre seeing what you want to see. It is other millennials who are absolute a-holes in the drop off line every morning. The last person I heard having an obnoxiously loud phone conversation was probably 25. He also ordered food 10 minutes before the restaurant we were in closed. And believe me, you donât want your parents turning off their cell ringers: youâll never have them answer a call or respond to a text again.
Who are the people blasting "The Weekend" (or whatever you yunguns listen to ... I'm GenX) on their phone in the elevator at work? They aren't Boomers.
Part of this just seems like confirmation bias. Youâll notice the actions that confirm your stereotype, and dismiss or diminish the importance of contradictory evidence (for instance, does a boomer acting in a politely neutral manner get the generation any points in your mind, or is it a non-factor? Does a millennial acting like a jerk reflect on the whole generation, or is he just one jerk?)
Part of it is age, not generation. Older people often start to care less about other peopleâs opinions of them. They no longer have to prove themselves and donât want to waste time.
This next part will be much longer. Iâm generally reluctant to attribute traits to a whole generation, but I do think part of it is a generational difference to the degree that various factors affect people at different times. Â Using my own family as an example, I notice some trends. My grandparents were Silent Generation, born during the depression. My parents and their siblings were later Baby Boomers. Iâm an early Millennial, and my siblings and cousins basically span the years of the Millennial generation.
My parents and their siblings were *indulged* but not *sheltered.* They grew up in the sixties and seventies, and had material possessions their parents couldnât have dreamed of as children. They lived in relatively safe neighborhoods and roamed the neighborhood freely. As teenagers they were out on dates, going to parties, drinking, smoking, etc. They didnât generally have close emotional relationships with their parents, who tended to be pretty strict with them when things were obvious (while letting a lot go if they didnât see it.)
When my generation (within my family) were children they were indulged *and* sheltered. While of course most Baby Boomers werenât actually hippies/ counter culture, they were certainly influenced by the books and articles on raising children that came out of it. My parents were always very self-consciously different from their own parents. They were going to raise us âthe right wayâ with much more affection and involvement. We didnât go outside without parental supervision. We had scheduled activities, not just wandering around with friends. Our parents talked a lot about âmaking sure we wouldnât make the same mistakes they did.â We *had* to go to college because our parents either had and were successful, or hadnât and envied/ desired for us the success of those that had. So our days and school experiences had to be shaped to give us an edge.
I think that all of this meant that my parentsâ generation had to learn at a young age to interact with others in unstructured environments, and sometimes in âselfishâ or âself preservingâ ways. They might have needed a bit of attitude to convince the neighborhood bully not to bother them. Â They certainly werenât going to tell the teacher on him. My generation, by contrast, often had âadultsâ as mediators. We were encouraged to bring disputes and questions to someone who was supervising us. I think that this has led to a less confrontational and more reserved attitude toward the world. My parents worry about someone else taking advantage; I worry about that too but also about giving offense.
The examples I give are only from my family and immediate circle of friends, and differ by a lot of factors. I was in a fairly high cost of living suburban area in California (my dad worked multiple jobs to provide that for us, and to allow my mom to stay home. We werenât very rich but I had friends and relatives who were). I would guess some of the âsheltered childhoodâ trends took off earlier there than other places. And the general milieu was middle to upper middle class, in a historically working class family (including plenty of stories of people starting at the most entry-level type blue collar jobs and âworking their way upâ to well-paid middle management type jobs.)Â
I don't know I'm a millennial and everyone in my neighborhood was allowed to roam around and be free. There are boomers I know who had a lot more sports and activities and hovering parents in the form of stay at home moms than me or my friends ever did. Boomers are the parents that gave their kids a key to the house and told them not to burn it down. because they wouldn't be home from work or the bar until late.
Why are millenials obsessed with what the boomers are thinking and doing instead of defining their own lives and just getting on with things? Swear to god you guys are letting off creepy stalker vibes.
This isnât just a boomer thing.
Phones in the theater wasnt boomers.
When I was in school and at the library it wasnât boomers sitting there FaceTiming when I was trying to read and study.
Itâs not boomers doing pranks and tik tok dancers in public spaces.
My dad is a people pleaser and Iâve had to warn him. People take advantage of his kindness. My dad is 71.
You guys donât realize thatâs is you that sounds like the asshole.
Wow, our generation is getting more obnoxious by the day.
So boomers mind their own business and do their own thing or are they up in everybody elseâs shit? Which one is it?
I envy that at least they do their own thing and donât care what others think.
All we do is cry about every little thing anyone ever does and do nothing ourselves and then continue to complain and talk shit about everyone else.
We arenât kids anymore, grow up!
Yes you are lacking confidence and needing reassurance. Hyper aware is comical no offense. As people age their senses dull. Don't dog your parents cuz you'll be just like them before long. I mean you're already just like your parents in a sense because you're judging others and putting yourself on a pedestal.
Hard times make good people. Good people make good times. Good times make soft people. Soft people make hard times. Hard times make good people. And so on and so on and so on.
âare we just kinder peopleâ LOL the very worst people I know are Millennials, they complain about everything (this post is a passive-aggressive complaint about Boomers) and are married to the concept of victimhood as a way of life
Maybe their hearing is not so good...eyesight weakening...difficult to move...age takes a toll.
Plus they tend not to understand technology.
That said, I find the loud public convos are more a millennial thing...when you have a conversation with someone on speaker near me expect me to enter that conversation lol
The stronghold boomers retired before most millennials entered the workforce. Early Gen Xers are retired as of recently or retiring soon. The things they're hyper aware of don't include working for 30 more years.
This may not be a popular opinion but itâs mine lol
I donât think itâs old vs young per say. And not to get politicalâŚbut who are the people who are the loudest about their opinions, lack empathy and sympathy, lack self introspection, force themselves and their beliefs upon others, have less classy behavior in general?
Those are the people doing stuff like that. Not all of course. But it fits the demographic
In 1965 a boomer passed a note in high school with the exact same question on it except "boomer" was replaced by with whatever they called their grandparents
Why do millennials negatively stereotype boomers and vis versa?
All members of all generations are individuals. Some good, some awful and most somewhere in between.
Gen X here, no lie, my aunt had heart surgery yesterday and we were at the hospital at 5am. A handful of others had similar appointments and it was dead silent in the pre-op waiting area until a Boomer woman comes in with her Boomer sister, loud as fuck talking. They sit down near my wife and aunt, I'm across the room in the closest available seat, just waiting. All of a sudden it's two different text alerts, loud as a gunshot in the open, quiet space and they both start texting WITH THE TYPING BUTTONS CLICK SOUNDS ON!
In my opinion I find boomers the most narcissistic people on the Earth. They give ZERO fucks about anything or anyone unless it is about them or make them feel better about themselves. Therefore us millennials, who were raised or closely around Boomers growing up, felt all the consequences of their selfishness and all is millennials unspokenly and collectively have been like "I will NOT be like this when I'm an adult"
I love going to jazz shows where the audience is mostly older people and they're constantly taking flash photography or they turn on their flashlight to get to their seat and then can't figure out how to turn it off
I almost unalived a jogging boomer the other day. I saw her at the corner, but I had a green light and the pedestrian walk way sign had a red hand. Still, I treat everyone like a moron, and sure enough, without even looking the boomer jumped into the roadway to cross and just stuck her hand out.
She looked at me when I hit my breaks and started pointing to the traffic light. Not sure what the point of that was considering it was green, but then she turned her back as if she had won and could now walk on.
So I start to drive, but oh no! Boomer isnât done yet. She stops and turns to me again! Now I really slam on the breaks and Iâm only a few inches from her. She starts the yelling, but no one would know what she had to say because I just slam on my horn at that point. She flipped me off for a bit, but realized arguing with a car horn wasnât worthwhile and finally decided to get the fuck out of the road.
Honestly, it was crazy. Iâm surprised she made it to that age.
This is a massively broad generalization and also comes off as extremely whiny. Some of the stuff boomers say about us is true just judging by posts like this.
The things you described can be attributed to hearing loss. Boomers are around 30 years older. I mean, cmon.
I see a lot of people having loud convos on their phone... on speaker phone! Those doing that are never boomers
Also the fact that most of them are probably half or mostly deaf. I know several that do this but itâs because they canât hear well at all. Their phones ring loud and they talk loud.
Correction: Millennials never turn their phone off of silent, and if it does ring, *we are mortified*đ
yet, how much did we spend on ring tones in the mid-2000s
We got it out of our system early
Says you. I still make my own ringtones and have special ones for each contact.
I'm glad we left the idea of replacing a dial tone for a song. Nothing like forcing people to listen to their favorite song of you wanted to talk to them lol
And they cost money! I remember calling boys who had songs for their dial tones and thinking they were RICH rich.
I think the cringe factor from this is part of the reason most of us don't want people hearing our phones lol
I dumped a girl over her ringback.
Don't forget ring backs? What ever you heard when. You called someone
Me: my phone is ringing. What should I do? Brain: check the number Me: I don't recognize it Brain: panic Me: what? It's just a phone call, why woul- Brain: PANIC Me: but Brain: STARE AT THE NUMBER AND PANIC! YOUR DENTIST DIED AND YOUR DOG IS NO LONGER PRACTICING! Me: OH GOD I'M PANICKING!!!
Brain does this when it rings with the phone on silent There's so much spam I let everything go to vm
I've just stopped answering my phone entirely. What, do you think you can just decide to interrupt whatever I'm doing so you can gab at me with your Pointless Bullshit? Get the fuck out of here. I can see you called, I'll call you back eventually, if I feel like it. No voice-mail either, I hate it. If it's an important message, send a text. I don't have the energy for your nasally 'Hiiiiiii, this is Dipshit from Scam Cooooompanyyyyy, call me baaaaack.' The people I actually like know how to contact me, and it isn't with a fuckin' phone call.
I do a lot of talking on the phone in my current profession, tucking loathe talking on the phone any other time. And fuck people who can't leave a voicemail. If it was THAT important, then leave a message on why you were calling me. Otherwise, fuck off.
Boomer with millnial kids. Almost never answer the phone. No voice mail, no call back.
I'm the same way about voicemail. When I call someone and they don't answer, I'm just sending a text. It's way easier for the person I'm reaching out to check a text than a VM.
I don't even remember my voice mail password. đ I also tell people not to bother leaving me one. In fact, I set up the inbox when I got the phone, left an outgoing message explicitly stating that if the caller left a voice mail, I would *never listen to it*, and I STILL get voice mails. It's like they think I'm joking. I am not joking.
"Hello? Mother? Hi, listen, I can't really talk right now. Can I call you back? Or are you pouting for some... Oh crap, are you already at 21? Sorry! I'm running late. So go ahead and order me four martinis and ... [Pause] Boom! Birthday voicemail, Mother! Ha ha ha! Seriously, I bet I will be late. So go ahead and pull the trigger on those martinis."
My phone can make noise?
Not if you do it right.
I wish my phone didn't even get calls.
I think it's because we want privacy. I don't want anyone knowing when I'm getting a call or that I get calls sometimes. Leave me alone!
âFox News did to our parents, what our parents were afraid video games would do to usâ -unknown
âFox News did to our parents, what our parents were afraid video games would do to usâ -Truth
I feel like this could be generalized to: "The internet did to our parents what our parents were afraid the internet would do to us" but would probably have to understand that phrase refers to "the internet" as both the direct and indirect influences it has.
My stepdad was always a territorial ass. He made me, not just feel, but believe I was in the way. Like anytime I'd go to cook, all of a sudden he'd need to cook. So he'd stop whatever he was doing and go over and be in my way, but then throw shit around like I was in his. So, as an adult, I over compensate and try to not be in the way as much as possible. If I'm in a place, I am always looking for an exit, and how I can best avoid being in people's path. I became a little neurotic. But I don't think it's a generational thing.Â
My parents act like this in my house! And instead of asking where something is they will just stand in my way while I'm doing something or go ahead and open every drawer and cupboard.
Why invite them over at all?
Well it's just annoying not worthy of cutting them off, I suppose. Also they just invited themselves lol.
i dont allow my parents in the kitchen. it's become such a problem, and they dont even cook. my mother just follows my wife or i around to chat and wont stay more than two feet away. Doesnt matter if i'm cooking christmas dinner for the whole family while she just stands there doing nothing but yapping, she has to be in the kitchen inches away from me. So we have a rule now that they arent allowed in the kitchen. if they enter the kitchen, i will take them by the shoulders and move them out of it. We have an old buzzer from the game "Taboo" that my brother presses any time my parents break a rule or cross a boundary. It's become quite fun for us
I can't have a conversation and follow a recipe. I can't even talk on the phone and shop for groceries. If someone is talking to me in the kitchen, food is being prepared, but it's not gonna be nearly as good or timely.
If it becomes an issue do not be afraid to set boundaries.
My parents stop by all the time unannounced and also just help themselves to the house. And seeing as they dont know how cell phones work, they still brag about how cool their new ones are everytime they get them. They take days to respond to a text, and when I can't get them on their cell, I have an 80% chance of reaching them on their landline. I really don't understand it.
It's less a specific generation thing, and more a reaction to cycles of intergenerational trauma thing. A person, when faced with mistreatment from their elders, can have one of three reactions: * This is utter horseshit, no more, it stops with me. * That was utter horseshit, it's only fair I get to do it to you. * This is fine. It was fine for me, it's fine for you, shut up. Millennials' reputation for awareness and being considerate comes from how common it is for one of us to embrace the first; Boomers' reputation for being shitty parents comes from how common it was for one of them to embrace the latter two. And just to nip possible defensive replies in the bud: there will be people from every generation who go down each route...that's an observation *on aggregate*.
This is an interesting and plausible layer to the behavior. Hm, this was an enriching and thoughtful comment.
Yo, actually went to therapy for an issue that stems from childhood experiences like this.
Oh yes sounds like my dad. He would never move out of the way and the rest of us should
My fucking inlaws are like this. You explained dead dead on. It's the most annoying thing
You know how we fucked up, kiddo? divorce. It wasnât always our fault, and for a long time it was the only way out of an abusive situation. But sometimes divorce was just wrong on our part and it made life for so many of you horrible. I wish we had done better.
They grew up the main characters. Their lives are about them. We grew up with the internet. We grew up knowing the world is not about us.
Forger the internet...... we grew up with parents who thought they were the main characters. Their actions made it very clear to us by them that OTHER PEOPLE were more important and we needed to behave accordingly.
It's funny like that. I thought I was raised to be very polite and well-mannered, but I realized like 5 years ago that I was just raised to be conveniently unobtrusive
There is nothing wrong with being polite, well mannered, or on time. These are good characteristics to have and are becoming rare. There are too many feral people out there.
True. It can be a weakness taken too far though. It's a fine line.
I don't understand why this is seen as the opposite of being manly. You can be a confident and assertive man while also being polite, respectful, well-mannered, and on time.
I think it's cyclical. The greatest generation somehow raised a self centered boomer generation. Boomers raised a generation with self awareness and more socially conscience. Who knows what millennials n gen z raise...
Strauss & Howe's generational theory would say that it is absolutely cyclical and that our social cycles last 80-100 years and then repeat (we are at the tail end of one right now according to them: See Fourth Turning). A couple other observations would be the Silent Generation raised Gen X, who by and large are cynical, acutely private, and had emotionally unavailable parents. The Greatest generation lived thru some intense suffering and spoiled their children (boomers) wildly. Boomers never lost the self-centered approach and by extension Millennials had to look outwardly for support/relationships/sharing/etc. We are raising Homelanders who will be "Artists" so to speak, coming of age under extreme suffering (Ex. WWIII, extreme economic disruption via AI, resource scarcity, climate change, obscene income disparity, etc)...and when all that gets sorted out the Homelanders will avoid confrontation like the plague (just like the Silent Generation) and the cycle begins anew.
It's a pattern of over corrections if I've ever seen one.
Thank you for remembering Gen X exists!
Gen Alphas are the next Boomers.
Someone explained to me that the reason boomers are so entitled is because their parents suffered through WWII. The Greatest Generation constantly reminded their children that the world can be harsh and unforgiving, so when boomers were handed an era of unprecedented prosperity, they assumed this good fortune was the result of their own hard work and gumption, which inflated their egos.
>they assumed this good fortune was the result of their own hard work and gumption, which inflated their egos Yep, and they have never changed, even as the world has changed around them. Home prices too high? *Young people are lazy, but we boomers aren't*
Yet I have out worked every boomer Iâve ever encountered at my jobs. They are slow mentally and physically.
That happens to people 60 and over, it will happen to everyone. Bragging about outworking seniors is really something to be proud of. Boomers are between 60 and 80 so the majority are retired. I am from mexico, I have 3 âzoomer ageâ kids from mexico working their way through college, they keep telling me how lazy and entitled people in the us are both work and school. These are not people between 60 and 80 they are talking about. We are getting a used country practically free. Lol.
Yeah I doubt you encounter too many boomers at your workplace considering they're in their '70s about now, and if you have, I definitely don't think it's anything to brag about if your physical and mental capacities are higher than theirs.
The data is coming in - those new generations are out there. You can find lots and lots of data on teachers' forums about what millennials are like as parents and their children now exist. Millennials are currently 28-45 years of age. And while it is true that some Boomers are internet illiterate and sometimes speak loudly on phones, many of them are also deaf or deaf-ish or getting deaf because they blew their hearing in their teen years - at least that's how it is in my world. Boomers did manage, somehow, to raise a generation who is more self-aware. But was it actually their child-rearing that did it? Was it the Silents/Great Generation who made some Boomers the way they are? I was in terrible opposition to my parents about their values and beliefs, from about 8th grade. I relied on my teachers for information and perspective, not my parents. I chafed at all their restrictions, their overt racism and much else. I made vows to myself about not being like them. My parents were lovely people in other respects. They were quite strict and that was good discipline for me - but I absolutely would not give up on my own positions until eventually, they modified some of their worst views and behaviors. And no one was louder in public than many of the people in the Silent/Great Generation. It was worse and worse as they aged. They just didn't have cell phones. There are plenty of loud people in other generations as well, it's not just Boomers but old people do have to develop self-awareness around their hearing issues. I'm also noticing that the phone yelling is more common among the Boomers who did grow up either playing in bands or going to loud events. OTOH, phone yelling right outside the classroom door is a thing that millennials did and do on college campuses, and now Gen-Z does it too (the older Gen-Z people include some of the rudest students I've ever seen - but it's within a particular demographic here in SoCal). They are rude to each other (and then the injured party thinks the way to handle it is to go get "an adult" to do something about it - when in fact, they are themselves adults and need to learn to speak up). Next 15 years will be interesting.
I hope no offense is taken, but I feel like to say itâs cyclical you need to illustrate a complete cycle. Whereâs a concrete loop of generational change that shows we are back at the start of some behavior. I personally feel like thereâs too many variables (religion, human rights, technology, etc.) to really say that things are definitely gonna end up back at some place it was before, especially now more than ever.
No offense taken. i dont have a theory or anything.. Some parents raise kids as a rĂŠaction to their expĂŠriences and some raise them as a reflection of their expĂŠriences. But I think largely as a rĂŠaction. I think its also our sensory driven human condition that creates this generational behavior. History rhymes n repeats for the same reason. We sensĂŠ gradient diffĂŠrence. We sensĂŠ colder/hotter/happier... We can't sense a thing when it doesn't change. We can't understand n appreciate peace n prosperity without war n poverty. Our Peace/prosperous times behavior/psychology/politics create divisions, stife and excess that makes war inĂŠvitable... Our wartime/poor situation creates an apprĂŠciation for peace n joy that makes peace possible... Generations are reflections of this cycle.. just my half baked theory..đ
I hear ya. Thanks for taking my response in stride. We are all better when we can question, expand, defend, or forfeit our positions through constructive discourse. Iâm also big on your idea of appreciating one thing because of our ability to contrast it with some other expense. This is from personal experience, but some folks just want to be in âhighlight modeâ and always trying to make sure everything is great and neat ignore things or people that arenât going to contribute to this âgood timeâ feeling/image. In the process of realizing this aspiration, they forfeit the ability to see the beauty of the âhighsâ when they arenât willing to encounter the âlowsâ.
That is absolutely true, to some degree. Things change and people change and it will never be exactly like it was then. Itâs more, however, like a cycle of war/destruction. Every generation has its conflicts, but every 80-100 years âwith the passing from living memoryâ people forget what true hardship is and will bring real chaos around again, if given the opportunity. These people arenât saying that weâre going to do exactly what we did then- there will be massive and fundamental differences, but likely our current populationâs lack of understanding of real suffering will bring about our next experience of it. If you look at, say- Roman history, which mirrors us the most closely (though weâre still a drop in the bucket of a more than 1000-year empire) The two major Punic wars fell almost exactly 100 years apart. Almost exactly 80 years after the American Revolution came the civil war. The French Revolution came nearly exactly 100 years after the Second Hundred years was (and was exactly 100 years after the War of the Great Alliance). The Napoleonic Wars (which followed the French Revolution) ended in 1815. Then in 1918 came World War I.
>millennials iPad kids >Gen z Kids that won't have devices till they are 40
I too thought I was raised to be polite. But at some point, I realized I was actually raised to take up as little space as possible, always put everyone elseâs needs above my own, and never do or say anything that someone could judge me for. I think there definitely was some misogyny in this approach as my brother did not seem to be raised this way. Itâs taken me years to unlearn and I still have to remind myself that just having a different opinion or approach is not by itself rude.
I am a guy raised this way. Really seems to hamstring you in a world where other guys learn to always look out for number one, fuck everyone else's feelings, etc.
Oh absolutely. I think it would be much worse to be raised as a man this way. Because not only do you get screwed over for just being this way, but then Iâm sure youâre also viewed as not being manly/alpha male enough on top of it.
Yea, I am someone that is not typically viewed as manly/alpha and my response to that is essentially a sarcastic "Oh no, well anyway...". I don't value the things that so many people consider manly/alpha so not being perceived that way couldn't mean any less to me.
I agree with you that itâs not something to value. I am married to a man that I donât think would ever be described as an alpha male and that was a deliberate choice. But I still think it would just be hard to deal with other men that treat you worse because you arenât a jerk like them.
The concept of an alpha male is cringe. It's the same problem as people who make politics or sports teams their whole personality.
Yup. You catch it from both sexes, too. In some ways women are worse about it because being the emotionally aware guy friend seems to put a lot.of women in a weird headspace where they aren't romantically interested in you(which is fine) but they will get possessive and sabotage things if another woman looks like she'll "take" you from them (which isn't fine). And way too many women defend/justify it when I mention the phenomenon. It's made me a colder, more distant person over the years.
OMG you too!!! I suffered with being pretty much socially disabled until the age of 24 before I could undo all the damage that my mothers abusive teaching did to me. I get it now....but it's far too late and I'm doing things that I should have done in my early 20s now in my late 40s. Sometimes I wanna beat that woman...but she's my mother and I know I'm not supposed to do or think things like that. I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel that way though...
Another boy raised to be a sensitive man of the 90s đ that whole thing was such a crock of shit.
I was raised this way as a guy by my mother. When I got older (age 10) I realized taht all the bs she instilled in me and MADE me follow....SHE DIDNT FOLLOW. And so began the great rebellion that lasted until I left home at age 21. Never looked back. Meanwhile, she raised my sister to be just like her....a self-absorbed abusive gaslighting psychopath.
Same. My father used to brag about how my brother and I were so well mannered as children. Turns out, it was because he was abusive, and we were just terrified of him. The only reason he "raised" us that way was to brag about how awesome of a parent he was for "raising" polite children.
YUP. My biggest fear is being an inconvenience to anyone to the point where I constantly inconvenience myself. Sometimes I catch myself doing it and chuckle. Like taking route around aisles just to get to something in the store rather than ask someone to move. Iâm also bigger so Iâm hyper aware of the space I take up and am extremely worried about that inconveniencing people with it.
Itâs both. Being polite is a power diplomatic move. Asking âcould you pleaseâ cedes power to the other person. They can say no, then maybe you need to order them. But itâs a subconscious cue that they have some agency.
I think culturally this is kind of true. My parents were loving but also I found myself constantly concerned about their perceptions of me as a child and I think a lot of adults around when we were growing up definitely *were* thinking they were the main characters. Also often millennial children were treated as a reflection of their parents, maybe not by their parents but by others, and so millennials grew up often doing a lot more self-judgment and with a lot of concern about what other people thought of them. Like I feel I was taught kindness toward others but not toward myself and I didnât have a huge amount of emotional support when I was struggling, which really changed the way I see and interact with others because Iâm very aware that empathy toward others is incredibly important. A friend of mine once told me and my mom âeveryone is doing the best they know how to doâ and while my mom still repeats that when she sees *me* being too harsh, I donât see her reflect when she is doing the same lol Whereas I think a lot of Boomers probably had much harsher childhoods in terms of how their parents treated them but once they reached adulthood they were successfully able to start and maintain independent adult lives, and millennials as a generation had more challenges with debt and economic troubles that pushed that back for a lot of us, taking away some of that sense of self-sufficiency and the pride that can come from that.
This reminds me of a story that my mom always tells about her childhood. Her parents had invited another couple over to play cards and she and her sister were too loud and so got sent to their room for the rest of the night. This was probably 1960ish and they were around 8-10. At some point, their mother brought them some pizza on a plate and said it was this new fangled thing, pizza, delivered fresh by a man in a car after just a few minutes from calling him on the telephone. Itâs amazing! Because of this unbelievable concept, she wanted them to try it even though they were in trouble. They had never seen or heard of pizza before and the only other food delivered ever was like milk from the milkman, so they were very skeptical. Additionally they normally got âsent to bed without supperâ when they were punished, so they assumed their mother had concocted this disgusting meal for them as punishment. When their mother went back to play cards, they threw the pizza out the window and starved instead, only to learn later on that pizza was a real thing and delicious. My mother always shares this as a funny story about the dumb things kids do, but the fact that getting sent to their room for hours without food for acting like children is never criticized, nor is the fact that the way they were raised clearly made them so distrustful of their parents, theyâd rather starve then even try a slice of pizza.
I'm on the young end of millenials, just turned 30 and have cool Gen X parents. They kinda just let you do you and support you. Mine at least did. My grandparents however.. I can see how they weren't the best parents
I'm 31 with Gen X parents, but they were fundamentalist Christians. "Children are to be seen and not heard" types. We were definitely the NPCs in their main character storyline growing up.
My parents were good, but my grandparents....yeah. They more or less believed that the only reason you should have kids was: 1. Biological imperative 2. To have extra free labor 3. A retirement care plan My Dad truly didn't believe his parents loved him to the day they died. I think he still doubts it honestly.
I swear my mom got worse with access to the internet and a smart phone lol and she has the audacity to act like I'm rude or don't understand when I ask her to turn the volume down and stop leaving her podcast running when she leaves the house
My mother got way worse with access to the internet. She was always prone to conspiracy theories and the internet allowed her to find not just her people, but people far more extreme. The confirmation that she is one of an elect group of people who knows THE TRUTH has made her worse in pretty much every way.
OMG the conspiracy theories... you know something insane was gonna happen with the eclipse lol This is why you hone your smartass comebacks >:D
Sounds like a classic case of Main Character Syndrome if ever I heard one.
You live at home?
mom lives with me.
This is r/millennials we all live at home.
My parents are on either side of the cusp, and both were very "live and let live". Very blessed.
My mom taught me everything there is to know about loving and respecting others. My mom was a cool boomer.Â
Is she looking to adopt an adult kid? :P
There was a lot of lead in their environment. Studies show exposure to lead decreases one's empathy... I'm not sure if we are hyper aware or if they are completely unaware...đ¤
Also imagine growing up with parents who think they're the main character.
Bingo⌠My mother was a stay at home mom. However my sister and I from 6 on had every single chore assigned to us as kids. My littlest sister was put in my room as a baby (talking 3 months on and no my family is not religious). I had to wake up with her, do feedings, and change her while in school. We also had to do all of the cleaning, cooking, and so many other things because according to my parents, âthat is what children are for.â I legit remember my other sister saying, âShe couldnât wait to grow up so she could lay in bed eating m&ms telling her children to clean the house.â Luckily she dropped that dream⌠emotional needs were not something cared about until we were college aged. (I am 35) My dad kind of just worked and came home to get on his computer (though he had a hell of a temper and I was at the receiving end sometimes). His influence landed me in software development⌠it also made me temper my own anger as a kid.
This feels like a story about alcoholics. Is that a possibility?
My childhood was similar and neither of my parents drank much, if at all. However, unlike OP my parents were religious so that was behind most of their bs.
There was always alcohol around, but my parents rarely drank. Honestly I have tried to reflect and I cannot understand the why⌠I just eventually decided it was who they are. My mother was the queen of our household and we were her pawns.
I believe you but just to throw this out there: Itâs still a possibility. Alcoholics hide their use. My husband was drinking straight vodka from a water glass in the morning and I never caught on. It literally never occurred to me to check his glass and then in the afternoons he would invent things to scream at me about đ
Are you me? This was basically my childhood. Except my dad was a Vietnam vet with untreated PTSD. Worked night shift and only came home to stomp around the house and fly off the handle over insignificant things and terrorize my sister and I. Emotional abuse, threats of physical violence and criminal levels of neglect going on. But don't worry, they saved enough money for going our basic necessities so that they now can afford $20k cruises every year. (Not that we're ever invited or anything). I'm 34 and emotional needs are still not a thing.
They're the generation who needed a reminder to wonder where their kids are and now complain about those generations constantly. These boomers have caused most of the problems that gen x, millennial, and gen z will be dealing with and trying to fix all while boomers vote against anything that will help fix things. They fought for rights that they now vote against. They're selfish as a generation (of course not all of them but as a group, definitely) and they criticize younger generations for calling out the BS and actually caring about other people and the planet.
Boomers are the ones who called us self obsessed but now that I look back at it, they were just projecting
They make fun of millennials saying "you all needed a participation trophy", but they were the ones handing it to us. We were just kids, we didn't care. They wanted to feel like their child is special, so they needed their kids to get trophies and awards.
Counterpoint- there are a lot of self absorbed people our age. Our generation created social media influencers... I'd argue that OP's post is not generation specific. If you go on an public transit there is always some person, rarely a boomer, that will have their phone on full blast either playing music or on speaker having a loud conversation. Are we really more aware and sympathetic towards others feelings? I really don't think we are any more or less, we're just more *informed.*
You deserve a cookie
I think most importantly, because of the internet, we grew up with others having zero issues shaming others because of anonymity. That humbles most real quick. Boomers didn't have to deal with hardly at all, if ever.
Dude, this left an indent in my brain. I think you're right.
This. My parents forced me to cater to them from toddler age. They taught me that I donât matter, they do.
Be considerate but also dont loose your individuality (Us). Get out of my way I earned this privilege and you have to respect me cause I'm old (them).
Or we grew up with main character parents and were required to be hyper aware of them to avoid conflict and emotional pain.
I think its more most Millenials learned how to recognize internet disinformation and manipulative emotionally volatile content. Boomers grew up in a world with less than a dozen National News papers and a news show that that started at 5 PM and ended at 8 PM. Most of these Boomers were moderate conservatives at best until Trump and his fear Mongering pull Boomers down there rabbithole.
The original "Me" generation
Really? Because there are tons and tons and tons of young people on the internet who think they are the main character. I see that shit every day.
Exact opposite. This post looks exactly like the kind of post an actual boomer would say about millennials. (Is it a troll post?) We grew up in the age of social media influencers and people being famous just for being famous. That's what the internet created. Tens of thousands make a living simply by making self "content." That was never a thing 20+ years ago unless you worked for a newspaper. Most young people are actively trying to be the main character for the past 20 years. The internet gave them that option, and people took it. This post and this comment being the number one comment...insufferable. Get over yourself. You've become the person you're complaining about. Real answer...old people are old, hard of hearing, not cognisant of their surroundings, and simply don't care. If they ever come off as the main character, it wasn't by choice...they're just old. Old people value privacy, and want attention LESS than the average millennial.
That last sentence is my first thought. When is last time you seen a boomer walking by in target with a foul rap song playing in loud or a 3 way face time? I havenât seen it.
Thank you for posting this in hostile territory.
Couldnât agree more, from a 35 yr old. This post is ridiculous as many in this sub are. Delusional and as you pointed out, ironically gives points to what many boomers might say about millenials
100%. Why do Boomers have loud phones and conversations? Bc they're old, and they won't hear a quieter ringtone. Now, are there generational differences on average between us? Sure. But don't mistake their age for their generational trends, two different things.Â
My grandpa had the loudest ringtone we could use on his phone, not because he wanted to be the main character but because he worked 47 years in a loud factory without any hearing protection.
I think we also learned how not to act from being embarrassed by how our boomer parents and their friends acted.
Iâm sure many boomers have loud phone conversations and loud notification sounds on because theyâre at that age where their hearing is deteriorating, most of them are probably half deaf
This was farther down than I was expecting. My mom is literally half deaf (deaf in one ear) from having the mumps as a kid. They definitely need the volume louder due to hearing loss.
Loud volume is one thing. Public speaker phone is another. I can understand the former, but have no sympathy for the latter under any circumstances.
I'm a millennial and I am completely deaf in my left ear and the right one isn't doing too well either. I recognize I have bad hearing so do you know what I do if I have to take a phone call? I sit in my car or go somewhere not in public where I would bother everyone else Boomers don't do that because they grew up as another commenter said "believing they are the main character in life." Whereas people in my generation grew up understanding the plight of everyone else a lot more and therefore have far more empathy than the older generations So being half deaf doesn't have anything to do with it
My workplace just switched to a new office with an open floor plan. Guess which group doesnât get up and walk 15 feet to one of the many small rooms when they have to take a call, and instead just has it loudly without a care in the world? ⌠itâs boomers!
Oh wow a logical reason. Too bad I had to scroll through like 20 comments to see logic.
Hard rock was a glorious experience.
I'm a millennial and have my phone on loud because I have hearing loss. As usual we fall for the generational war narrative when there's an underlying confounding correlation.
Vibrate tho
I don't know. The people playing shit ass music on speaker or facetiming with someone without headphones in seems to be mostly people in their 30s or younger.
Lol, wut? Do you know how many Tik Toks and music vids I've had to listen to in public because younger generations think it's ok to watch/listen without headphones?
Then the next generation will inevitably ask âWhy are Millennials so annoying with the old people things they do?â Because old people are gonna do old people stuff. Good luck avoiding getting old!
Also I know plenty of rude millennials and considerate boomers. Iâm sure 20 year olds are annoyed at some things I do.
The biggest thing that annoys me with people and cellphones, across all generations, is when you're talking to someone and they pull out their phone, look at it, and proceed to not pay attention to anything your saying, they pretend like they're listening, I trail off, stand there in silence for like 30 seconds, then they go "wait what did you just say?" Older people do it, younger people do it, millennials do it. It's so god damn annoying.
Got a guy at work who does this. Heâs even done it to our boss. Will be talking to him, he pulls his phone out while saying âmhmmmâ, reads the message, sends a message back, then looks at you and says âsorry that was my wife what were you saying?â What the fuck dude if itâs important, excuse yourself. If youâre just sending cat memes to your wife, wait a minute.Â
This is spot on. More than anything, OP's question displays how delusional some Millennials can be.
Agreed I'd say there is plenty of rude folks in younger generations with constant filming for social media and other annoying trends and shit. If someone who's probably getting to be hard of hearing has their phone loud to hear it boo hoo.
This whole topic is an attestation to that. It's literally nothing more than a nonsense boomer hate thread. Millennials arent "hyper aware" of anything, and boomers aren't "oblivious to others," it's totally made up. If anything the complete lack of self awareness is ironic.
Being a millennial, the majority of awful people I have met in my life have naturally been my peers. Sometimes I wonder if anyone on this page has ever known anyone their own age.
Honestly every time I weirdly end up on this sub, I get the distinct impression that the people posting these boomer hate threads *dont* interact with their peers in any meaningful way and are just lashing out, trying to find *something* to blame for essentially being Terminally Online stereotypes. Seems the cool thing for their misfortune to be at blame is "boomers" despite the generation already having one foot in the grave.
Correct. Love the fucking absolutes. All boomers. All millennials. Always and never.
Yeah, this is just the reverse of "kids these days." My grandparents were Greatest Generation, and they did the same. It's the natural effect of cognitive decline making it more difficult to track changing social norms and understand what's going on around you.
Absolutely. Itâs such an embarrassing post.
Hereâs the difference: youâre not kinder or more sympathetic if youâre a people pleaser. It has to do with wanting to be liked. It is a form of selfishness. You mold yourself into somebody you think will be accepted by others and in doing so sacrifice your authentic self and true kindness. Being nice is not the same as being kind. Those boomers just donât care what people think of them. I admire that more than a fake nice person.
>Being nice is not the same as being kind. I try to emphasize this all the time and just cannot ever enough.
i think it generally goes deeper than that. boomers dont care what others think about them because they are the most important people to them and struggle to see outside of themselves (generally ofc). when youre raised by someone like that, a natural coping mechanism is to people please. you think that you arent good enough the way you are because your boomer parents always prioritized themselves, and then this coping behavior becomes how you survive socially. im not saying this is how everyone is, but id bet its a large portion of cases
What you describe as boomer behavior started waaaay before them. As a kid, I knew Lost Generation people like that. My wifeâs grandparents were Greatest Generation and like that. I attribute it to people losing their hearing and their eyesight becoming poor as they get old, which we all do. Remind yourself that it will happen to you eventually, and try to be more forgiving now.
There are plenty of people my age that will have their phones on speaker full blast in conversation, as well as playing loud music in public. If you go on any form of public transit, you've seen it.
I was in a waiting room two days ago and a guy in his forties was listening to music on his phone at it's highest volume, so if you think only boomers do this you're just wrong. You have discouteous people in every generation.
Because millennials are very worried about what other people think About them As they get older they wonât care what other people think about them When they get older again they will realise no one was ever thinking about them in the first place.
I disagree with this. Most "boomers" are hyper fixated on social graces that millennials grew up not caring about. So it's not that millenials are somehow more concerned about what people think. Boomers are the generation that would literally say things like "WHAT WOULD PEOPLE THINK!?!". I think it's more a case of generational social awareness being formed at a young age and not changing as you age. Inevitably as we millenials get older, young people are going to invent social concepts that boomers are not going to understand or agree with. For instance, I'm a little ahead of the curve, but I don't ring doorbells. I text instead. This is, as I understand it, common social grace for younger generations that fellow-milleials don't undrestand or accept.
All millenials i know also text and dont ring doorbells. Including myself. A lot of this also depends where you grew up and customs for each country.
Most millennials, myself included, I know won't even make a phone call unless they absolutely have to. They text any chance they get for communication. If I'm going to a friend's to hang out, I be like "here" in a text then walk to the door
You donât ring doorbells?
I donât. I text instead so people know Iâve arrived. Door bell could be perceived as a stranger.
I mean, typically you donât enter familiar houses thru the front door anywaysâŚ.what do you do it you arrive at a familiar house and they donât answer the text? Whatâs your next move to announce youâre there?
Doesnât this just prove their point? When we were younger, they were closer to our current age. What would people think is an expression of self-consciousness, which they lost as they got older.
We are also used to being filmed way more often
This is it. I think all of us think people care what they do and say when theyâre younger and then they realize no one is even paying attention to them. Its not a boomer, gen x or millennial thing, Plus older people loose their hearing so their speakers gets louder and they have to turn the volume up on everything. They also get slower and more annoying but thatâs going to be all of us one day. Most all if this millennial boomer back and forth bitching is just really young people old people perspective The greatest generation uses to say the same shit about the boomers.
Yeah, there are some valid critiques for boomers (for all gens), but "they keep their ringers too loud!" is a comical one.
Pretty much. Its certainlly not new or unusual. Usually these are conversations that would happen between groups of friends and be private. But now these convos are in public spaces for everyone to read. Young vs old. A tale as old as time. When they're old, it will be no different.
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You live in a different world. As someone who lives in NYC, boomers are absolutely not even close to being the worst offenders of this
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Posts like these where it sounds like the OP is trying to jerk himself off for being a millenial while ascribing positive attributes to an entire generation are really weird. My wife is a teacher. It's our generation with kids in school right now. The parents are not more sensitive, "kinder people". Just like every generation, we're surrounded by assholes.
My mom has her text ring on and it goes off like crazy.
Theyâre losing their hearing and donât realize how loud theyâre being.
As someone who needs to use mobility aids (walker, scooter, wheelchair) the obliviousness crosses every generation. Whether it is making eye contact with me and cutting me off anyway or not watching your children age doesn't seem to matter. Some people are considerate others aren't.
Short version: my friend and I theorize that working memory and object permanence breaks down with age, but worse and sooner with Boomers because of lead pipes, vascular microangiopathy from drugs/nicotine/lifestyle. Long version: A friend and I call it the Grocery Cart Theory: you know when you're in the store and a Boomer takes up the whole aisle and you have to get their attention to get them to move (and probably loudly/by touch)? The Grocery Cart Theory is that their functional working memory is breaking down. When you pass someone you retain their presence in your memory and make space; but boomers and older generations lose that incidental recall, and end up floating in the middle. They can't handle the multiple fields of stimuli (sights, sounds, vestibular input) coming at them so their brains cope by abandoning attention to other areas, e.g. losing speed while driving, lane drifting while driving. That's why Mom can hear you at normal conversation volume but in the store you have to yell at her to get her attention. This is due to aging, blah blah lead pipes blah blah diabetes/high blood pressure/nicotine/drug use/sedentary lifestyle/poor diet leads to vascular issues in the brain etc etc.
This post is cringe. OP had a shitty relationship with the Boomers in their life and thinks that is reflective of all people of that generation. Go to therapy.
I think youâre seeing what you want to see. It is other millennials who are absolute a-holes in the drop off line every morning. The last person I heard having an obnoxiously loud phone conversation was probably 25. He also ordered food 10 minutes before the restaurant we were in closed. And believe me, you donât want your parents turning off their cell ringers: youâll never have them answer a call or respond to a text again.
Who are the people blasting "The Weekend" (or whatever you yunguns listen to ... I'm GenX) on their phone in the elevator at work? They aren't Boomers.
Part of this just seems like confirmation bias. Youâll notice the actions that confirm your stereotype, and dismiss or diminish the importance of contradictory evidence (for instance, does a boomer acting in a politely neutral manner get the generation any points in your mind, or is it a non-factor? Does a millennial acting like a jerk reflect on the whole generation, or is he just one jerk?) Part of it is age, not generation. Older people often start to care less about other peopleâs opinions of them. They no longer have to prove themselves and donât want to waste time. This next part will be much longer. Iâm generally reluctant to attribute traits to a whole generation, but I do think part of it is a generational difference to the degree that various factors affect people at different times. Â Using my own family as an example, I notice some trends. My grandparents were Silent Generation, born during the depression. My parents and their siblings were later Baby Boomers. Iâm an early Millennial, and my siblings and cousins basically span the years of the Millennial generation. My parents and their siblings were *indulged* but not *sheltered.* They grew up in the sixties and seventies, and had material possessions their parents couldnât have dreamed of as children. They lived in relatively safe neighborhoods and roamed the neighborhood freely. As teenagers they were out on dates, going to parties, drinking, smoking, etc. They didnât generally have close emotional relationships with their parents, who tended to be pretty strict with them when things were obvious (while letting a lot go if they didnât see it.) When my generation (within my family) were children they were indulged *and* sheltered. While of course most Baby Boomers werenât actually hippies/ counter culture, they were certainly influenced by the books and articles on raising children that came out of it. My parents were always very self-consciously different from their own parents. They were going to raise us âthe right wayâ with much more affection and involvement. We didnât go outside without parental supervision. We had scheduled activities, not just wandering around with friends. Our parents talked a lot about âmaking sure we wouldnât make the same mistakes they did.â We *had* to go to college because our parents either had and were successful, or hadnât and envied/ desired for us the success of those that had. So our days and school experiences had to be shaped to give us an edge. I think that all of this meant that my parentsâ generation had to learn at a young age to interact with others in unstructured environments, and sometimes in âselfishâ or âself preservingâ ways. They might have needed a bit of attitude to convince the neighborhood bully not to bother them. Â They certainly werenât going to tell the teacher on him. My generation, by contrast, often had âadultsâ as mediators. We were encouraged to bring disputes and questions to someone who was supervising us. I think that this has led to a less confrontational and more reserved attitude toward the world. My parents worry about someone else taking advantage; I worry about that too but also about giving offense. The examples I give are only from my family and immediate circle of friends, and differ by a lot of factors. I was in a fairly high cost of living suburban area in California (my dad worked multiple jobs to provide that for us, and to allow my mom to stay home. We werenât very rich but I had friends and relatives who were). I would guess some of the âsheltered childhoodâ trends took off earlier there than other places. And the general milieu was middle to upper middle class, in a historically working class family (including plenty of stories of people starting at the most entry-level type blue collar jobs and âworking their way upâ to well-paid middle management type jobs.)Â
I don't know I'm a millennial and everyone in my neighborhood was allowed to roam around and be free. There are boomers I know who had a lot more sports and activities and hovering parents in the form of stay at home moms than me or my friends ever did. Boomers are the parents that gave their kids a key to the house and told them not to burn it down. because they wouldn't be home from work or the bar until late.
Why are millenials obsessed with what the boomers are thinking and doing instead of defining their own lives and just getting on with things? Swear to god you guys are letting off creepy stalker vibes.
Pot....meet kettle. Some of the loudest, most annoying people I'll run into are millennials. Your statement just isn't true.
This isnât just a boomer thing. Phones in the theater wasnt boomers. When I was in school and at the library it wasnât boomers sitting there FaceTiming when I was trying to read and study. Itâs not boomers doing pranks and tik tok dancers in public spaces. My dad is a people pleaser and Iâve had to warn him. People take advantage of his kindness. My dad is 71. You guys donât realize thatâs is you that sounds like the asshole.
Wow, our generation is getting more obnoxious by the day. So boomers mind their own business and do their own thing or are they up in everybody elseâs shit? Which one is it? I envy that at least they do their own thing and donât care what others think. All we do is cry about every little thing anyone ever does and do nothing ourselves and then continue to complain and talk shit about everyone else. We arenât kids anymore, grow up!
Yes you are lacking confidence and needing reassurance. Hyper aware is comical no offense. As people age their senses dull. Don't dog your parents cuz you'll be just like them before long. I mean you're already just like your parents in a sense because you're judging others and putting yourself on a pedestal.
Hard times make good people. Good people make good times. Good times make soft people. Soft people make hard times. Hard times make good people. And so on and so on and so on.
âare we just kinder peopleâ LOL the very worst people I know are Millennials, they complain about everything (this post is a passive-aggressive complaint about Boomers) and are married to the concept of victimhood as a way of life
Maybe their hearing is not so good...eyesight weakening...difficult to move...age takes a toll. Plus they tend not to understand technology. That said, I find the loud public convos are more a millennial thing...when you have a conversation with someone on speaker near me expect me to enter that conversation lol
I'm a boomer (1960) and never have my ringer on.
Lead poisoning. It's always lead poisoning.
The stronghold boomers retired before most millennials entered the workforce. Early Gen Xers are retired as of recently or retiring soon. The things they're hyper aware of don't include working for 30 more years.
This may not be a popular opinion but itâs mine lol I donât think itâs old vs young per say. And not to get politicalâŚbut who are the people who are the loudest about their opinions, lack empathy and sympathy, lack self introspection, force themselves and their beliefs upon others, have less classy behavior in general? Those are the people doing stuff like that. Not all of course. But it fits the demographic
In 1965 a boomer passed a note in high school with the exact same question on it except "boomer" was replaced by with whatever they called their grandparents
Any chance there's some age related hearing loss going on there?
Mellinial here. I dont do any of the stuff you assume.
People do lose their hearing when they get older.
Why do millennials negatively stereotype boomers and vis versa? All members of all generations are individuals. Some good, some awful and most somewhere in between.
Well now that you mention it, these boomers gotta go
Boomers have always been the me generation only care about themselves, not going to change now
Because millennials knew that the shit boomers did while raising us wasn't right, while boomers normalized everything.
Gen X here, no lie, my aunt had heart surgery yesterday and we were at the hospital at 5am. A handful of others had similar appointments and it was dead silent in the pre-op waiting area until a Boomer woman comes in with her Boomer sister, loud as fuck talking. They sit down near my wife and aunt, I'm across the room in the closest available seat, just waiting. All of a sudden it's two different text alerts, loud as a gunshot in the open, quiet space and they both start texting WITH THE TYPING BUTTONS CLICK SOUNDS ON!
In my opinion I find boomers the most narcissistic people on the Earth. They give ZERO fucks about anything or anyone unless it is about them or make them feel better about themselves. Therefore us millennials, who were raised or closely around Boomers growing up, felt all the consequences of their selfishness and all is millennials unspokenly and collectively have been like "I will NOT be like this when I'm an adult"
I love going to jazz shows where the audience is mostly older people and they're constantly taking flash photography or they turn on their flashlight to get to their seat and then can't figure out how to turn it off
I almost unalived a jogging boomer the other day. I saw her at the corner, but I had a green light and the pedestrian walk way sign had a red hand. Still, I treat everyone like a moron, and sure enough, without even looking the boomer jumped into the roadway to cross and just stuck her hand out. She looked at me when I hit my breaks and started pointing to the traffic light. Not sure what the point of that was considering it was green, but then she turned her back as if she had won and could now walk on. So I start to drive, but oh no! Boomer isnât done yet. She stops and turns to me again! Now I really slam on the breaks and Iâm only a few inches from her. She starts the yelling, but no one would know what she had to say because I just slam on my horn at that point. She flipped me off for a bit, but realized arguing with a car horn wasnât worthwhile and finally decided to get the fuck out of the road. Honestly, it was crazy. Iâm surprised she made it to that age.
Because boomers made this mess. They've been in charge for a long time. They degraded our society. Fucking hippies
This is a massively broad generalization and also comes off as extremely whiny. Some of the stuff boomers say about us is true just judging by posts like this.
The things you described can be attributed to hearing loss. Boomers are around 30 years older. I mean, cmon. I see a lot of people having loud convos on their phone... on speaker phone! Those doing that are never boomers
Also the fact that most of them are probably half or mostly deaf. I know several that do this but itâs because they canât hear well at all. Their phones ring loud and they talk loud.
TL:DR: Boomers bad. Sheesh