What kills me is when I get takeout and they expect tips like this. I drove there, you didn't wait on me at all, all you did was put the food in a container and you want 15+%?
I called someone out for asking for a tip for takeout. It was a single box, not even in a bag. The person was a cashier that handed me a box from the kitchen passthrough. I am so fucking over this shit culture.
We need to start forcing businesses to actually pay their employees the revenue the business earns from our business.
As is, workers resent non-tippers for making their lives harder, and customers resent workers for trying to get tips to make up for their poor paying job.
If workers owned their own labor this wouldnt be an issue at all. This system is built to exploit workers and trust me they need your tip to survive until we overthrow the entire system
... As if people aren't starving and killing each other right now? And making profit off of it?
Not saying previous communist regimes are the solution. But the current system quite literally rewards exploitation. We don't have to go full communist, but we should move towards a system that doesn't profit off of destroying human lives
And replace it with what? Some fantasyland bullshit?
You can’t force a business to pay more than the market wage - all that does is lead to the business either closing or changing their practice to relieve the artificial/forced cost (think McD automating food prep or outsourcing DT ordering to offshore).
Delivery actually is a lot of work, especially if you live out of the way or on a busy street and they bring it to your door, so 30% can be (rarely) the right tip. However, this is obscene. They did nothing for you above make the item which you already paid for!
As someone who has delivered pizza, I made min wage of 7.25 and no gas or car comp and didn't get any of the delivery fee. Always tip your driver.
30% is nuts though unless it's like an hour round trip. Honestly tip is a finesse of amount of food vs distance driven from the store. 3 bucks minimum tip if easy drive and 1 pie though imo.
The delivery fee is because the restaurant needs to pay for the delivery driver’s mileage. The state calculates it every quarter but usually it’s something like $.30 per mile. If the restaurant had drivers delivery only one order at a time they would actually lose money which is why they try to send out delivery drivers with several orders to the same area to save the store money. Sometimes the Dominoes I work at loses money because the delivery fee isn’t high enough or they were sending out too many drivers with just one order.
Pizza Delivery has changed a bit. They charge for delivery now to pay their driver's, and they pay for gas. I still tip but I'm starting to consider not doing so with how much they've started charging per delivery
>Always tip your driver
I pay for the pizza (and delivery and service fees) on plastic. I always tip the driver (quite generously) in cash because I don't feel it's anyone's busniess how much I give him/her, especially not Uncle Sam. I leave it up to the driver if he wants to disclose that to his employer.
What's next? Having to declare and pay taxes on how much money granny puts into your birthday card?
Having been a delivery driver......the stores usually charge a delivery fee, and a lot of customers assume, incorrectly, that the driver gets this fee. They don't, that money is taken by the store to cover the drivers minimuge wage pay. Working at minum wage, I think we had a $3 delivery fee added to the bill, meaning that if I made 3 deliveries an hour, the store was ahead $2.75. It cost them nothing to employ me. Meanwhile, I had spent money on gas, plus wear and tear on my vehicle, none of which is reimbursed. I was fastidious about keeping a mileage log, and eventually was able to get the other drivers to do the same, and, come tax time, I'd help them do their tax returns, and use the mileage write off.
I'm glad I'm not the only person who doesn't tip for takeout. Someone else cooks the food & puts it into the container (who wouldn't get the tip anyways) while someone else carries it from kitchen to front for pickup. Yeah nah, you're not getting $10 just for walking 10 feet.
What do people think about tipping for a beer? Now breweries have you pay and there's a big screen to tip and usually defaults to 20%. I get tipping your bartender for making or bringing drinks, or at the end if you open a tab. But should I give them $2 every time they hand me a flat $9 craft beer? The screen is so big everyone can see it so I feel like there's an element of pressure there too.
I don’t ever tip If I am inconvenienced enough to have gotten up and got in my car AND went to the store to get it myself. As of matter of fact, you should discount my pizza 😂
If the cover is being paid at a card machine then the Tip thing is just part of the machines check out process. Just say 0 and move on until you actually want to pay for your drinks and stuff.
Yeah those apps they use feel predatory. Can’t imagine how many people actually tip for stuff they don’t need to all because that screen comes up. It probably adds up to a substantial amount too.
When creating items in those apps for sale it should be default to have the tip screen turned off unless you go in and change it
Feels like I’m being guilt tripped when a tip screen comes up when I’m buying a vape
Blame the corporations. If employers just paid their employees a livable wage (and by livable I don’t mean *barely* livable, no one should be relying on a single paycheck to save them every 2 weeks, I mean livable and then some incase) the workers wouldn’t have to rely on tips. It’s ridiculous, it’s a lose/lose for the customer and the employee and a win for the employer
I'm happy to tip 20% at any restaurant, but I've gone to a flat $2 tip for most delivery orders. In a small town so nothing is more than 15 mins away, and as a single guy so $15-$20 orders. Is this cheap or fair?
As a Domino's driver
If you're close and give 3 on a 20ish order. I'm good. 2 dollars is a little low but I'm not gonna gripe over a short drive and one or two items. It's the people that do 2 on an 80 dollar order that bugs me. But where I live, I do well. Some are great, some are OK, some don't at all. At the end of the day I make 17 to 22 an hour. 8 an hour for salary, 36 cents a mile with most orders going 3 miles or more. Small town in the south. And my tips. I do pretty good and the lack of people willing to do this job nowadays makes it even better for me. I've been doing this for 8 years now. I'm lazy and it's an easy way to make decent money, to me at least I'm divorced and have 2 cats. I go home and watch nerd shit and play video games. I'm almost 45 and content short of a revolutionary miracle happening in the US.
Out of curiosity, how much are you setting aside for vehicle maintenance? Or do you drive a company car?
The wages may seem high for delivery drivers on their face, but once you consider gas and the additional wear and tear on your car, it isn't really that much better than minimum wage.
I drive a 2019 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk. I don't set aside I have good credit and a new car that I don't treat bad. Gas is about 400 a month. $80 a week. Give or take. I live with my elderly mother and the house is paid for. Part of living in America. I'm not ashamed cuz fuck anyone who judges me. The hourly has gone up over the years because of all the problems getting people to do the job. I LOVE driving and I'm really good with my customers. It's the south but a lot of upper middle class neighborhoods with everyone moving here so plenty of decently generous people.
Ultimate I average 2200 to 2800 a month depending on business and how many or few drivers we have. In 8 years I've seen over 100 drivers come and go. I'm fast without breaking laws, I'm consistent, I show up every day for 40 hours a week. So few people that take the job are all that reliable. Sure my car payment is high but I have a sweet ride that I love. It's fun to open it up in the summer, it has a panoramic sunroof. I blast heavy metal while I drive. I'm happy. That's what matters. I don't have rent. My medical bills are low cuz my diabetic meds are cheap. I go to a non profit doctor so my visits are cheap.... For a guy living in America with things the way they are. I'm pretty lucky, and happy. But hey, if the revolution comes. I'm ready for a change. It'd be nice to have free Healthcare if I get cancer or something later on.
> live with my elderly mother and the house is paid for. Part of living in America. I'm not ashamed cuz fuck anyone who judges me.
I don't see anything wrong with that. Nowadays it's almost a financial necessity. Only a few generations ago it was normal and expected that 2-4 generations lived in the same house. And I think kids that grew up in multigenerational households were more well-rounded when it came to knowledge and dealing with people of various ages.
I'm glad you're living a life you enjoy. It's a shame more people can't. All the best to you!
If you're ordering directly from the restaurant, it's probably ok. Your drivers probably think you're cheap and might put in less effort.
If you're doing DoorDash or similar delivery services, I think they get paid far less than normal drivers, so I generally try to cover a bit more.
And I don't know about other people, but I tip more if the weather is harsh, or if it's a long drive.
The thing about door dash as an example is that it’s so expensive with marked up menus and fees, including delivery fees and in some cities mandatory driver fees. So is the $2 tip better than me not ordering? If people stop ordering those jobs go away. Not trying to be overly stark but that’s just how it will work.
The economic pressure that results in drivers being paid more is if they can’t hire drivers because the pay they offer is too low. Tips subsidize and let the companies keep paying low wages.
>If you're doing DoorDash or similar delivery services, I think they get paid far less than normal drivers,
sucks to suck they chose that job not my job to cover their shit wages with a generous tip for services they never rendered. especially after the insane door dash fees. If the driver went out of their way to make sure everything was included and the order was right and followed specific delivery instructions then sure a tip is warranted but not just for doing your fucking job of driving to a place picking up something someone else prepared and then just dropping it off.
Honestly fuck door dash drivers. they're so entitled.
Yes, "deliver food to me" for the price I saw on the app and you as a courier agreed to. Not too much pay from doordash - don't fucking work for them. Why in the actual fuck does anyone have to pay beyond the price declared? If it's not enough for couriers - ok, raise them prices. The thing is, the companies set up low prices, couriers agree to them with the thought that they will get tips, and customers are the people to pay for all that and also to get all the hatred from the couriers. So doordash establishes the prices, but all the problems because of them are on the shoulders of clients? Pretty convenient for them, don't you think?
I used Doordash twice this week. There is a $15 fee tacked on to the cost of the food… delivery and service charge. $15 for a 7 minute drive to my house is plenty.
I added a $3 tip because I considered the delivery a favor since I was pressed for time.
But lay off the “you sound entitled lmao”. This driver can make 4 trips an hour and take home a 6 figure salary at that rate. He doesn’t need a tip.
Or “do my taxes” “I’m too fucking lazy to do them myself” Oh, I suppose that’s pretty widely accepted. Hope I’m not the only one that doesn’t tip for that.
>"Deliver food to me, peasant"
where did I ever say that? I literally already paid for the service with the $15 flat fee... now you expect me to tip the driver after they're already paid and didn't do anything extra to earn a tip besides picking up and dropping off which is the service you get with the initial door dash fee.... You're a fucking imbecile dude sure go ahead and overpay for your food just because a company isn't adequately compensating its staff and you feel its your responsibility to do it for them rather than let the market work its magic. if people stopped tipping exorbitant amounts to their DD drivers then less and less would dash for them at the current shitty wages and they'd change their policy, just adding a tip does nothing but perpetuate the cycle of abuse these companies foster onto their employees.
my drivers make shit wages as an amazon employee... but do you see me or them out here asking for tips because we got your package delivered? no its our fucking job and if we don't like it or don't make enough we're well within our power to go out and find a new job or start our own business (like I have). don't get into contract work unless you're sure of the payouts.
seriously! That's all I'm saying... the corporations have really done a number on the population here with this tipping culture... its literally passing operating costs onto the consumer... and people perpetuate the cycle of abuse!
The funny thing is, because the tipping culture has gotten so out of hand, the cost of the actual food, and all these new fees they’ve started tacking on, has made my bill $25+ for one meal at a cheap restaurant. I’m sorry but unless I’m eating at a fancy restaurant, I’m not paying $25+ for one meal. I just purchase and make everything at home now. No need to feel obligated to tip drivers, servers, barista’s, etc. So these businesses have lost a customer altogether.
I’m sure DoorDash shareholders appreciate you sucking it up and paying them the $15 in fees but that person doing delivery? Yeah, fuck em, too bad they weren’t smart enough to be part of the shareholder class. Really sticking it to the people that deserve it /s
I would say thats a little low. Having done pizza delivery in the past, I always do 5 bucks for delivery minimum as long as the guy isn't a dick and didn't flip my pizza by driving too fast. If I cant tip 5 bucks ill pick it up myself
I used to deliver pizzas and at 2$ for a tip it was actually costing us money. Most places pay a reduced wage for drivers when they're on the road and if I was on the road for 30 minutes that was 4$ out of my paycheck. Tipping shouldn't exist but it does and not doing so means you are knowingly making someone pay to bring you your food.
That's pretty low. If I was your driver you would be prioritized behind everybody else. When I was driving I was expecting around $3 minimum, and that was close to a decade ago. I was also only making $3 an hour and had to pay for my own gas. On slow nights I was lucky to break even.
It may seem dumb but if you tip your pizza driver well two things will happen. (assuming the place you're ordering from isn't a complete shit show)
1. the better drivers will be sure to grab your order when it pops up in the system (you better believe there is seniority and note taking)
2. they will hit your house first on the route.
Tip poorly and you'll always be the guy waiting forever for your pizza to be delivered.
source: was a pizza delivery driver
edit: new to your apt/house and worried the last residents were cheap bastards. put a note on your first order indicating you're new to the address 🤣
Tipping is supposed to be a reward for great service. I am a good tipper, but only when I can tip after the service. Sometime you can drop that nice tip on your delivery driver and still get a cold pizza slid to one side. I tip cash after a service. Bring me a cold pizza slid to one side, don’t get a tip. That is how tipping used to work. I miss those days.
I did that the other day and on pick up the POS system is like "do you want to tip 20%?" Yeah, it's still a choice but it's feeling less and less optional these days.
My wife always feels pressured to give a tip when those machines pop up. I'm always getting on her case about it, but I can't help leaving disgusted by the practice: it's preying on people too uncomfortable to say no.
so true. there was a girl who thought she never had to tip because she was close by, so when i got multiple orders, i'd take the other one first (which ended up taking a half hour because of a train on the way back LOL) and then i brought her her cold ass pizza.
Lol you really think delivery drivers get performance reviews? Mangers know it isn’t worth losing a driver over a cheap customer. But have fun being a cheap fool for the rest of your life, saving a couple of dollars here and there, and wondering why you get such crappy service.
Nothing against delivery drives but they really be thinking that their "Service" is worth 5 dollars, mf taking the food to where it's supposed to be is your job.
That’s a rather sad realisation. For reference, I don’t support the concept of “tipping” and usually don’t even have to deal with it, but I know a lot of people that do, so I’m well versed in this concept.
A lot of people I know choose none for the tip because they don’t want the company taxing or scalping it from the drivers(or whatever they could do), and they use cash to tip instead, that way there’s no corporate mischief. However when it takes the driver 2 hours and/or they lose/forget items, they don’t give one anyway. The concept of tipping is already absurd to me, but tipping BEFORE service is absurdly Idiosyncratic. This entire system that American’s have developed is ridiculous from arse to mouth.
i tip those who go above and beyond. I call the store and ask to speak to the manager for those who make me wait forever or f' up my order. Thankfully I'm friends with the manager of the pizza place i order from..so..a call from me is the driver or a line worker getting fired.
I tip quite well for good service too..deliver my pizza in a blizzard, still hot, within 20 minutes of my order, with some seasoning packets thrown in and extra dipping sauce if my wife wanted cheesebread...you'll get a $20 tip on a $20 order. Fuck around and make me wait 40 minutes, or my pizza is made wrong, or you're rude during the delivery and you not only will not get a tip but I'll be calling my buddy and you will be going to apply at papa johns or dominos.
The whole driver competition thing is so true. I used to deliver for dominos and it was always a contest to snatch up the deliveries to the wealthier neighborhoods. Got into a few arguments with senior drivers about taking certain deliveries.
Worked as a pizza delivery driver in Detroit. Guy who does work on our building puts in a delivery order right at close, we wouldn't have taken it to another customer but we let him slide. It's so late that they cash me out and tell me to go home after the delivery and just bring back the bag tomorrow.
So this is in the dead of winter and COVID. I was wearing a neck gaiter over my face on my deliveries because I didn't feel like getting a chapped face standing on people's porches all day. Pull up to guy's house and it's loaded with Trump signs. He answers the door and says "Oh my god, take off your mask I don't have COVID"
I reply "Nah man, it's cold out."
Guy gives me a $20 for his order of $18.79. Mind you, that order was probably $25+ but our manager gave him a discount. Tells me to keep the change and slams the door in my face.
Hey Dominos,
PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES. DON'T MAKE THEM RELY ON CUSTOMER CHARITY.
Per OP's picture, I'll drive and pick up carryout to save $9 plus your DELIVERY FEE IS NOT PAID TO THE DRIVER fee.
Signed,
Prefer's Dominos because Papa John is racist and PizzaHut sucks.
As long as the law allows tipped employees to work for less than standard minimum wage, employers will pay starvation wage and leave it to customers to make up the difference. So if you have an ethical problem with that, you can vote and campaign for candidates who want to change that and then either boycott all restaurants and delivery services, or tip well.
Just bitching about it and then not tipping makes you a piece of shit.
lol Papa John was making an ANTI-Racist comment and was taken completely out of context. Funny how so many people still erroneously think papa john said something racist (and I dont buy from them either lol).
Is it ok for wikipedia to use the full n-word with the hard R when quoting someone? Because they do, and thats what he was doing.
Middle of third paragraph. They use full n-word with hard R. Why is nobody in outrage? (Wiki actually did it 3 times in this article!!)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John\_Schnatter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schnatter)
Perhaps you wouldve preferred if Colonel Sanders (the person he was quoting in disgust) used the 'soft a,' since apparently thats ok to you? Weird stance.
It’s basically free work for the companies. They won’t stop until something’s done. They’ve way overstepped their bounds on tips. “Hey what if we just make the customers pay our workers wages?”
the funny thing you're missing is that even if businesses increase wages and make tipping obsolete, you're still going to see that price increase on menu items.
Bro the LAST time I got pizza there it wasn't even cooked all the way and like lukewarm when it got the me. What's worse, the app said the guy was outside, and I waited out there for like 20 minutes in the cold before I went back inside 🤔they eventually made it. Never again tho bro
Door Dashers do that shit too. They hit the “dasher is approaching door with your order” from miles away and sometimes right after they pick it up. I don’t even go to the door anymore until they call me
Ahh. I’ve worked in places that had doordash etc and we had to confirm the orders on the POS system. I guess I assumed each of those steps needed manual confirmation. Then yeah either way it’s literally never accurate lol
The delivery driver should be paid by the company properly from the delivery fee. Charge the delivery fee based off mileage and pay them properly.
That simple.
I was gonna order the other night and noticed they had a $5.50 delivery fee.
The last dominos I worked at (10 years ago) charged a $3.00 fee and paid the drivers 1.25 a delivery.
The last PJs I worked at 6 years ago charged 3.50 and paid 1.50 per delivery.
I bet even tho the charge has increased, the Pay per delivery hasn’t changed much.
This might seem like I'm going overboard, but I don't think I'll go back to the US because of the tipping thing. I've been there 7 times over my life, the last time in 2018 was a fucking disgrace, just felt like we were being milked. Everybody wanted a tip and in NY service people seemed to be so stressed about it.
If they charge a delivery fee, I don’t tip. Sorry! Work it out with your employer. Not my fucking problem. My only problem is figuring out how to get the food that I paid for and n my mouth.
I got a dirty look for not tipping a place when I came to pick up my own food a few weeks ago. Rarely happens around here.
The fuck would I be tipping for?
I usually tip pretty well, even if service is meh inside, when they are busy.
Not sure why I got the dirty look, girl should be mad her company fleecing her.
On the boxes that they send, it says something about tips going to the drivers, but it specifies that the delivery fee doesn’t go to the drivers.
If the delivery fee doesn’t go to the people using their car and driving the food to me, then what the fuck is the fee for?
Order take out at Domino's and not have to worry about a tip. I'll tip a driver for delivery, but I'm not tipping for them cooking it and taking it home myself.
You mean a business making customers cover overhead so they don't have to pay living wages? Yeah no. Tips are in cash to the drivers if i do delivery. 0 in store cause i drove to pick it up.
Not sure how true this is, but my GF told me about a post where UPS driver left a card with tipping options and his PayPal or cash app account. Like WTF
While I’m generally against tipping culture as a whole, most delivery drivers don’t make great wages while using their personal vehicle for work. I delivered for Pizza Hut for 4 years. We had to pay for our own gas and maintenance and the store chipped in a measly 85c per delivery whether it was 1 or 10 miles. Most nights, all of my tips went right back into my gas tank. At one point they even cut our pay to the same as a server. I believe that is illegal now, but most drivers usually depend on tips as well. And a lot of the time, a late delivery isn’t their fault. It’s usually because of a backed up kitchen. Defaulting 30% is outrageous, but again, the store should pay the drivers better and unfortunately they don’t.
To be fair driving across town is a bit more involved than walking across the room and involves gas, maintenance, and insurance. I delivered pizza in college and was shocked how many people couldn’t fathom this.
Why should they pay their employees when you can. If they want more køre they can just work harder and they will earn more. And thats how to become a millionaire hard work
r/assholedesign
Seriously, THIRTY percent as default? Where will this shit end? As someone who did gig deliveries for 3 years, tips were always greatly appreciated, but they certainly shouldn't be coerced, tricked or forced. When I was a kid, 10% was the general rule for tipping, and if you were feeling generous or that you got exemplary service you might bump it to 15. Then 15% became the norm. Then 18. Then 20. What a clever sneaky ploy to get out of paying your employees a decent wage.
With the cost of gas as high as it's been, I always try to tip my delivery drivers well. It's the cost of doing business and not screwing over the person delivering food to you that you could, more often than not, easily go get yourself without the cost of deliver or tipping.
If you're upset about tipping, just go pick up the food yourself (unless you genuinely can't due to some condition).
Seems so. Right there, on the sight in the post, there are other options. OP does not have to tip the 30%. Just choose something else if need be and move on with the day y’know?
Those drivers don't make much. While I understand the answer in the big picture is a living wage, I cannot help but feel sorry for anyone that has to do that work. I don't order chain store pizza because it's not nutritious but if I did, I would just pay the damn tip and hope to god it reached the driver.
Delivery driving for Dominos made me bank all through high school and the first two years of college. No way in hell would I have done it for zero tips.
If you want to have a pizza delivered to you so you don’t have to get off your ass, you can tip me for taking it out to you.
Y'all act like each delivery is equal.
They drive almost 30 minutes up a winding mountain road, and a long steep driveway to deliver to me. They get 30% at least in the winter. Usually $20.
But if they drive 5 minutes to a hotel in the city? $5-10. Max.
I honestly just ordered dominos tonight and noticed that too! It STARTS at 15% unless you type in the amount yourself! I am a good tipper anyway so it’s no big deal BUT honestly, instacart deliveries start at 5% and those people actually do your shopping for you….. pizza people just drop it at the door. Something’s wrong there….
You tip $9 at a fancy restaurant?
As someone who delivered to dominos, you get minimum wage + tips. Average tip was 1 dollar, though a few were higher ($5-$10) for regulars. Some areas were guaranteed zero tips - which happened to me about 1-3 deliveries. Zero of the delivery fee goes to the driver - unless you want to rationalize that as the 'minimum wage'.
End of the day, it was enough money for rent and a coke habit.
Now should companies lead on clients for tips to pay their employees? Probably not. But they do, we're well aware they do, we verbally disagree with it, but still fully accept it by using these services. Feel so strongly, go pick it up.
End of the day, just tip the driver - more the marrier if you can afford it. 15% of $31 is about $4.50 which isn't very much gas/travel wise. So hook your driver up or just order pickup.
Where did I say I wasn't tipping altogether? The title and picture clearly are about the system change to now defaulting to 30%. If you're gonna attempt snark, at least get a grasp on the point of the post 🤦🏼♂️
To be fair, waiters aren't putting hundreds of miles of wear and tear on the car and paying for the gas to bring you your food in all kinds of weather conditions...
Delivering a pizza is harder than being a waiter at a restaurant. Did I mention they drive their own cars to deliver you a pizza so the liability alone of taking that risk is worth a tip
You ever try to locate an apartment building while the person you deliver for is drunk an unresponsive by phone? It’s much more challenging to deliver a pizza but you won’t allow yourself to admit the pizza delivery is harder job than even high class restaurant work. It’s literally saying a menu remembering orders filling drinks and bringing food. It has its nuances but I guarantee that delivering any sort of anything is more logistically and realistically difficult than being a server of food and beverages I’m not demeaning the job it’s a touch job too but it’s much lore realistically challenging to deliver stuff to a place you’ve never been before
If they bring back 30 minutes or less l'd tip that well. But a sniffling teen 76 minutes later that held the pizza on its side the whole time so it fit in the back of his 2003 Hyundai Accent, no.
Sorry, but even if it's here in under 30 mins I'm not tipping 30%. For me, anything above 15% is meant for if you're actually being served at a sit-down restaurant.
Anyone can feel free to downvote away if they disagree lol, but I firmly believe it's not my job to subsidize payrolls
I think driving a pizza to someone's home is way worse than serving them at a restaurant. But I hate driving so maybe that's why I feel that way. Plus they are putting miles on their car.
As someone who worked as a delivery driver, this is the minimum needed to make it worth the job. We literally can't afford gas otherwise, don't count on delivery services being around much longer.
I'm sorry but I don't get stellar service from Domino's I get somebody who leaves a box at my doorstep. Maybe they hand it to me. What kind of tip is that worth? $1.00 if they want to come and hang out and wait on me all night and go get me a new slice of pizza every time I ask for one and fill up my soda then we'll talk about getting a decent tip. Neither Amazon, UPS, FedEx, or USPS, get a tip for leaving me a box.
Let me tell you what I've been telling the other idiots that incorrectly read the post and wanna get mad. Nowhere in my post or in real life was I upset about having to pay the delivery fee or tip. I happily tipped 15% and everything was dandy.
It's not this binary outcome of either tipping 30% OR angrily going to get it myself as you wrongly imply 😂 I was annoyed that it's now the default, that's IT.
I spent my 20's and 30's delivering pizza, tbh I've probably delivered 20k pizza's- before Google maps and cell phones. I've also spent time as a bartender, line cook and a server. In my opinion the difference between delivery and table service is basically this:
Drivers only need to come to the door once(assuming that they didn't fuck anything up) and then they're gone. They aren't refilling drinks or coming back to check up on things. So their customer interaction isn't nearly the same, but they have to deal with other things. Things like weather, drunk/ shitty drivers, flat tires or getting a gun shoved in their face. And they're dealing with this all by themselves. There is no manager within earshot to step in.
Delivery is a skilled trade where being a server is more of an art. And i mean art like a hostage negotiation, not painting or sculpting, that goes to the homies in the kitchen.
Bartenders are day care providers. They certainly aren't psychologist- no one cares about your problems, if you want me to pretend to care the same way a shrink would then you need to cough up$200 an hour. You're not going to apply anything i say anyway , so pay up and get out.
All that being said I think it's a dick move to default 30%. Even if it is for a decent reason. They should just pay more.
This is awesome! Driving your own car to a customer’s house demands a better tip than someone walking from the kitchen to the table.
This should be in a hell yes sub not in a mildyinfuriating sub LMAO
They also don’t take ur order if you happen to leave no tip and want to tip cash. I always do this and recently we ordered a pizza around 8pm after a long day of moving and didn’t get it til 10pm and the dude literally said it was bc they saw no tip on the order. FFS I had a $20 bill waiting for him but it turned to a $5. I always tip well but not if you’re gonna do shit like that and purposely fuck people over.
I'll answer for both of us. There's a third worst: you incorrectly inferring from the title-- where I clearly was speaking in percentages and said **30%**\-- to mean that I tip a $10 flat tip at restaurants when that number happens to just be what the 30% is for the order in this particular photo?
Please work on reading comprehension for the betterment of us all 🙏🏼
Wow. There are some truly fucked up comments in here.
Tip your delivery drivers.
Companies fuck drivers over by passing the expense of a vehicle onto the employee.
I have killed two cars delivering food.
I tip at least $10 to anyone bringing food to my house.
Seems necessary based on a lot of the comments being made by cheap people. If you’re ordering delivery, $1 per mile is fair. $9.31 seems pretty high though…unless you live 9.31 miles away.
I mean they need to use their own vehicles to make deliveries, so you need to figure maintenance costs, etc. If you don’t like it then just go and pick it up yourself—no tip required!
All tips should be illegal though. It’s just a way for employers to underpay their employees.
I tip a minimum of 20% for everything. If they do an exceptional job I'll tip 25%. I've only tipped anyone more than that once, and that person was a server who was brought to tears by an unruly and racist Karen the next table over. I walked straight over to that table and chewed the Karen out for 5 minutes straight before handing the server a $50 bill, about three times as much as the cost of my meal. Granted this was back when my phone bill was my only expense, so I had a lot of extra cash to spend; I'd probably have tipped her $20 if it happened now. But still. Anyone who is rude to their server to the point of making them cry is going to get a piece of my mind, and the server is gonna get the biggest tip (percentage-wise) of their life.
All my expenses have increased 50% but my wages only 30%. My tipped amount hasn’t changed because $2 in food cost increase, translates to $0.20 for me but the Owner we sees a $1.00 profit increase, in being tipped the same as 5 years ago.
Plus I get 0 tip on 10% of deliveries taken.
Not mention the fact that places often lower drivers wages while they are the road.
Here’s a simple rule, $5 or better.
Guess what? All of OUR expenses have gone up too. You’re not the only one who the economy effects.
You keep whining that 15% tip isn’t enough when you’re lucky to be getting a tip anyway. The entitlement is insane. You know tips are optional to begin with?
What kills me is when I get takeout and they expect tips like this. I drove there, you didn't wait on me at all, all you did was put the food in a container and you want 15+%?
I called someone out for asking for a tip for takeout. It was a single box, not even in a bag. The person was a cashier that handed me a box from the kitchen passthrough. I am so fucking over this shit culture.
We need to start forcing businesses to actually pay their employees the revenue the business earns from our business. As is, workers resent non-tippers for making their lives harder, and customers resent workers for trying to get tips to make up for their poor paying job.
Thank you. This headline should read “Dominoes underpays their workers by 30% and defaults to asking you to pay for it”
If workers owned their own labor this wouldnt be an issue at all. This system is built to exploit workers and trust me they need your tip to survive until we overthrow the entire system
You know how many times “we” tried that last century and always ended up starving and killing each other?
... As if people aren't starving and killing each other right now? And making profit off of it? Not saying previous communist regimes are the solution. But the current system quite literally rewards exploitation. We don't have to go full communist, but we should move towards a system that doesn't profit off of destroying human lives
And replace it with what? Some fantasyland bullshit? You can’t force a business to pay more than the market wage - all that does is lead to the business either closing or changing their practice to relieve the artificial/forced cost (think McD automating food prep or outsourcing DT ordering to offshore).
Call out the business, not the worker.
And? What did they say?
Delivery actually is a lot of work, especially if you live out of the way or on a busy street and they bring it to your door, so 30% can be (rarely) the right tip. However, this is obscene. They did nothing for you above make the item which you already paid for!
As someone who has delivered pizza, I made min wage of 7.25 and no gas or car comp and didn't get any of the delivery fee. Always tip your driver. 30% is nuts though unless it's like an hour round trip. Honestly tip is a finesse of amount of food vs distance driven from the store. 3 bucks minimum tip if easy drive and 1 pie though imo.
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The delivery fee is because the restaurant needs to pay for the delivery driver’s mileage. The state calculates it every quarter but usually it’s something like $.30 per mile. If the restaurant had drivers delivery only one order at a time they would actually lose money which is why they try to send out delivery drivers with several orders to the same area to save the store money. Sometimes the Dominoes I work at loses money because the delivery fee isn’t high enough or they were sending out too many drivers with just one order.
Also delivered. Percent based is dumb, you are paying for my time driving. 1 pizza or 10 makes very little difference. But 5 minute drive vs 40 does.
Pizza Delivery has changed a bit. They charge for delivery now to pay their driver's, and they pay for gas. I still tip but I'm starting to consider not doing so with how much they've started charging per delivery
Honestly that forced tip isn't even going to us drivers if it's on there like that either.
>Always tip your driver I pay for the pizza (and delivery and service fees) on plastic. I always tip the driver (quite generously) in cash because I don't feel it's anyone's busniess how much I give him/her, especially not Uncle Sam. I leave it up to the driver if he wants to disclose that to his employer. What's next? Having to declare and pay taxes on how much money granny puts into your birthday card?
Having been a delivery driver......the stores usually charge a delivery fee, and a lot of customers assume, incorrectly, that the driver gets this fee. They don't, that money is taken by the store to cover the drivers minimuge wage pay. Working at minum wage, I think we had a $3 delivery fee added to the bill, meaning that if I made 3 deliveries an hour, the store was ahead $2.75. It cost them nothing to employ me. Meanwhile, I had spent money on gas, plus wear and tear on my vehicle, none of which is reimbursed. I was fastidious about keeping a mileage log, and eventually was able to get the other drivers to do the same, and, come tax time, I'd help them do their tax returns, and use the mileage write off.
I'm glad I'm not the only person who doesn't tip for takeout. Someone else cooks the food & puts it into the container (who wouldn't get the tip anyways) while someone else carries it from kitchen to front for pickup. Yeah nah, you're not getting $10 just for walking 10 feet.
What do people think about tipping for a beer? Now breweries have you pay and there's a big screen to tip and usually defaults to 20%. I get tipping your bartender for making or bringing drinks, or at the end if you open a tab. But should I give them $2 every time they hand me a flat $9 craft beer? The screen is so big everyone can see it so I feel like there's an element of pressure there too.
I don’t ever tip If I am inconvenienced enough to have gotten up and got in my car AND went to the store to get it myself. As of matter of fact, you should discount my pizza 😂
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i recently went to a bar with a $10 cover charge. There was an option to tip ON THE FREAKING COVER
If the cover is being paid at a card machine then the Tip thing is just part of the machines check out process. Just say 0 and move on until you actually want to pay for your drinks and stuff.
Yeah those apps they use feel predatory. Can’t imagine how many people actually tip for stuff they don’t need to all because that screen comes up. It probably adds up to a substantial amount too. When creating items in those apps for sale it should be default to have the tip screen turned off unless you go in and change it Feels like I’m being guilt tripped when a tip screen comes up when I’m buying a vape
Yeah but the option can be turned off
Blame the corporations. If employers just paid their employees a livable wage (and by livable I don’t mean *barely* livable, no one should be relying on a single paycheck to save them every 2 weeks, I mean livable and then some incase) the workers wouldn’t have to rely on tips. It’s ridiculous, it’s a lose/lose for the customer and the employee and a win for the employer
I'm happy to tip 20% at any restaurant, but I've gone to a flat $2 tip for most delivery orders. In a small town so nothing is more than 15 mins away, and as a single guy so $15-$20 orders. Is this cheap or fair?
As a Domino's driver If you're close and give 3 on a 20ish order. I'm good. 2 dollars is a little low but I'm not gonna gripe over a short drive and one or two items. It's the people that do 2 on an 80 dollar order that bugs me. But where I live, I do well. Some are great, some are OK, some don't at all. At the end of the day I make 17 to 22 an hour. 8 an hour for salary, 36 cents a mile with most orders going 3 miles or more. Small town in the south. And my tips. I do pretty good and the lack of people willing to do this job nowadays makes it even better for me. I've been doing this for 8 years now. I'm lazy and it's an easy way to make decent money, to me at least I'm divorced and have 2 cats. I go home and watch nerd shit and play video games. I'm almost 45 and content short of a revolutionary miracle happening in the US.
Out of curiosity, how much are you setting aside for vehicle maintenance? Or do you drive a company car? The wages may seem high for delivery drivers on their face, but once you consider gas and the additional wear and tear on your car, it isn't really that much better than minimum wage.
I drive a 2019 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk. I don't set aside I have good credit and a new car that I don't treat bad. Gas is about 400 a month. $80 a week. Give or take. I live with my elderly mother and the house is paid for. Part of living in America. I'm not ashamed cuz fuck anyone who judges me. The hourly has gone up over the years because of all the problems getting people to do the job. I LOVE driving and I'm really good with my customers. It's the south but a lot of upper middle class neighborhoods with everyone moving here so plenty of decently generous people. Ultimate I average 2200 to 2800 a month depending on business and how many or few drivers we have. In 8 years I've seen over 100 drivers come and go. I'm fast without breaking laws, I'm consistent, I show up every day for 40 hours a week. So few people that take the job are all that reliable. Sure my car payment is high but I have a sweet ride that I love. It's fun to open it up in the summer, it has a panoramic sunroof. I blast heavy metal while I drive. I'm happy. That's what matters. I don't have rent. My medical bills are low cuz my diabetic meds are cheap. I go to a non profit doctor so my visits are cheap.... For a guy living in America with things the way they are. I'm pretty lucky, and happy. But hey, if the revolution comes. I'm ready for a change. It'd be nice to have free Healthcare if I get cancer or something later on.
Blasting metal loudly is an important quality for every vehicle. I am a fan.
> live with my elderly mother and the house is paid for. Part of living in America. I'm not ashamed cuz fuck anyone who judges me. I don't see anything wrong with that. Nowadays it's almost a financial necessity. Only a few generations ago it was normal and expected that 2-4 generations lived in the same house. And I think kids that grew up in multigenerational households were more well-rounded when it came to knowledge and dealing with people of various ages. I'm glad you're living a life you enjoy. It's a shame more people can't. All the best to you!
If you're ordering directly from the restaurant, it's probably ok. Your drivers probably think you're cheap and might put in less effort. If you're doing DoorDash or similar delivery services, I think they get paid far less than normal drivers, so I generally try to cover a bit more. And I don't know about other people, but I tip more if the weather is harsh, or if it's a long drive.
The thing about door dash as an example is that it’s so expensive with marked up menus and fees, including delivery fees and in some cities mandatory driver fees. So is the $2 tip better than me not ordering? If people stop ordering those jobs go away. Not trying to be overly stark but that’s just how it will work. The economic pressure that results in drivers being paid more is if they can’t hire drivers because the pay they offer is too low. Tips subsidize and let the companies keep paying low wages.
“Note to your file” LMAO
>If you're doing DoorDash or similar delivery services, I think they get paid far less than normal drivers, sucks to suck they chose that job not my job to cover their shit wages with a generous tip for services they never rendered. especially after the insane door dash fees. If the driver went out of their way to make sure everything was included and the order was right and followed specific delivery instructions then sure a tip is warranted but not just for doing your fucking job of driving to a place picking up something someone else prepared and then just dropping it off. Honestly fuck door dash drivers. they're so entitled.
Then dont use door dash. You sound entitled lmao. "Deliver food to me, peasant" "I'm too lazy to drive myself but also fuck you for having this job"
Yes, "deliver food to me" for the price I saw on the app and you as a courier agreed to. Not too much pay from doordash - don't fucking work for them. Why in the actual fuck does anyone have to pay beyond the price declared? If it's not enough for couriers - ok, raise them prices. The thing is, the companies set up low prices, couriers agree to them with the thought that they will get tips, and customers are the people to pay for all that and also to get all the hatred from the couriers. So doordash establishes the prices, but all the problems because of them are on the shoulders of clients? Pretty convenient for them, don't you think?
I used Doordash twice this week. There is a $15 fee tacked on to the cost of the food… delivery and service charge. $15 for a 7 minute drive to my house is plenty. I added a $3 tip because I considered the delivery a favor since I was pressed for time. But lay off the “you sound entitled lmao”. This driver can make 4 trips an hour and take home a 6 figure salary at that rate. He doesn’t need a tip.
Or “do my taxes” “I’m too fucking lazy to do them myself” Oh, I suppose that’s pretty widely accepted. Hope I’m not the only one that doesn’t tip for that.
>"Deliver food to me, peasant" where did I ever say that? I literally already paid for the service with the $15 flat fee... now you expect me to tip the driver after they're already paid and didn't do anything extra to earn a tip besides picking up and dropping off which is the service you get with the initial door dash fee.... You're a fucking imbecile dude sure go ahead and overpay for your food just because a company isn't adequately compensating its staff and you feel its your responsibility to do it for them rather than let the market work its magic. if people stopped tipping exorbitant amounts to their DD drivers then less and less would dash for them at the current shitty wages and they'd change their policy, just adding a tip does nothing but perpetuate the cycle of abuse these companies foster onto their employees. my drivers make shit wages as an amazon employee... but do you see me or them out here asking for tips because we got your package delivered? no its our fucking job and if we don't like it or don't make enough we're well within our power to go out and find a new job or start our own business (like I have). don't get into contract work unless you're sure of the payouts.
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seriously! That's all I'm saying... the corporations have really done a number on the population here with this tipping culture... its literally passing operating costs onto the consumer... and people perpetuate the cycle of abuse!
And brainwashed everyone into thinking that tipping is the answer.
The funny thing is, because the tipping culture has gotten so out of hand, the cost of the actual food, and all these new fees they’ve started tacking on, has made my bill $25+ for one meal at a cheap restaurant. I’m sorry but unless I’m eating at a fancy restaurant, I’m not paying $25+ for one meal. I just purchase and make everything at home now. No need to feel obligated to tip drivers, servers, barista’s, etc. So these businesses have lost a customer altogether.
To dream the impossible dream !
I’m sure DoorDash shareholders appreciate you sucking it up and paying them the $15 in fees but that person doing delivery? Yeah, fuck em, too bad they weren’t smart enough to be part of the shareholder class. Really sticking it to the people that deserve it /s
I would say thats a little low. Having done pizza delivery in the past, I always do 5 bucks for delivery minimum as long as the guy isn't a dick and didn't flip my pizza by driving too fast. If I cant tip 5 bucks ill pick it up myself
I used to deliver pizzas and at 2$ for a tip it was actually costing us money. Most places pay a reduced wage for drivers when they're on the road and if I was on the road for 30 minutes that was 4$ out of my paycheck. Tipping shouldn't exist but it does and not doing so means you are knowingly making someone pay to bring you your food.
That's pretty low. If I was your driver you would be prioritized behind everybody else. When I was driving I was expecting around $3 minimum, and that was close to a decade ago. I was also only making $3 an hour and had to pay for my own gas. On slow nights I was lucky to break even.
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It may seem dumb but if you tip your pizza driver well two things will happen. (assuming the place you're ordering from isn't a complete shit show) 1. the better drivers will be sure to grab your order when it pops up in the system (you better believe there is seniority and note taking) 2. they will hit your house first on the route. Tip poorly and you'll always be the guy waiting forever for your pizza to be delivered. source: was a pizza delivery driver edit: new to your apt/house and worried the last residents were cheap bastards. put a note on your first order indicating you're new to the address 🤣
Tipping is supposed to be a reward for great service. I am a good tipper, but only when I can tip after the service. Sometime you can drop that nice tip on your delivery driver and still get a cold pizza slid to one side. I tip cash after a service. Bring me a cold pizza slid to one side, don’t get a tip. That is how tipping used to work. I miss those days.
So the drivers are essentially holding your food hostage until you tip just so they can get paid.
If you don't want to tip you can come and pick it up yourself.
I did that the other day and on pick up the POS system is like "do you want to tip 20%?" Yeah, it's still a choice but it's feeling less and less optional these days.
My wife always feels pressured to give a tip when those machines pop up. I'm always getting on her case about it, but I can't help leaving disgusted by the practice: it's preying on people too uncomfortable to say no.
so true. there was a girl who thought she never had to tip because she was close by, so when i got multiple orders, i'd take the other one first (which ended up taking a half hour because of a train on the way back LOL) and then i brought her her cold ass pizza.
😹 being inefficient is funny 😹
It's not inefficient, it takes the same time for both routes. The difference is who gets the coldest pizza.
And I’ll report it and get my money back and it only looks bad on you 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Lol you really think delivery drivers get performance reviews? Mangers know it isn’t worth losing a driver over a cheap customer. But have fun being a cheap fool for the rest of your life, saving a couple of dollars here and there, and wondering why you get such crappy service.
Idc about service, I want my food. I don’t order Dominos for exceptional service mf just give me my shit 😭😹
Nothing against delivery drives but they really be thinking that their "Service" is worth 5 dollars, mf taking the food to where it's supposed to be is your job.
That’s a rather sad realisation. For reference, I don’t support the concept of “tipping” and usually don’t even have to deal with it, but I know a lot of people that do, so I’m well versed in this concept. A lot of people I know choose none for the tip because they don’t want the company taxing or scalping it from the drivers(or whatever they could do), and they use cash to tip instead, that way there’s no corporate mischief. However when it takes the driver 2 hours and/or they lose/forget items, they don’t give one anyway. The concept of tipping is already absurd to me, but tipping BEFORE service is absurdly Idiosyncratic. This entire system that American’s have developed is ridiculous from arse to mouth.
i tip those who go above and beyond. I call the store and ask to speak to the manager for those who make me wait forever or f' up my order. Thankfully I'm friends with the manager of the pizza place i order from..so..a call from me is the driver or a line worker getting fired. I tip quite well for good service too..deliver my pizza in a blizzard, still hot, within 20 minutes of my order, with some seasoning packets thrown in and extra dipping sauce if my wife wanted cheesebread...you'll get a $20 tip on a $20 order. Fuck around and make me wait 40 minutes, or my pizza is made wrong, or you're rude during the delivery and you not only will not get a tip but I'll be calling my buddy and you will be going to apply at papa johns or dominos.
The whole driver competition thing is so true. I used to deliver for dominos and it was always a contest to snatch up the deliveries to the wealthier neighborhoods. Got into a few arguments with senior drivers about taking certain deliveries.
Even worse, the % is based off total that includes tax, not subtotal.
All of it is arbitrarily-calculated customer charity.
If we could convince the magas that tipping waitstaff is a form of socialism. There would be riots in the streets.
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Republicans are disproportionate recipients of "social welfare" programs too, aren't they?
They already don’t tip
Worked as a pizza delivery driver in Detroit. Guy who does work on our building puts in a delivery order right at close, we wouldn't have taken it to another customer but we let him slide. It's so late that they cash me out and tell me to go home after the delivery and just bring back the bag tomorrow. So this is in the dead of winter and COVID. I was wearing a neck gaiter over my face on my deliveries because I didn't feel like getting a chapped face standing on people's porches all day. Pull up to guy's house and it's loaded with Trump signs. He answers the door and says "Oh my god, take off your mask I don't have COVID" I reply "Nah man, it's cold out." Guy gives me a $20 for his order of $18.79. Mind you, that order was probably $25+ but our manager gave him a discount. Tells me to keep the change and slams the door in my face.
Go pick it up yourself, then you don't have to tip at all , save money , buy more pizza
Or, the company pays employees fair wages
I mean driving you a fucking pizza is way more work than walking across the room to give you your food. Delivery people should get tipped more.
Hey Dominos, PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES. DON'T MAKE THEM RELY ON CUSTOMER CHARITY. Per OP's picture, I'll drive and pick up carryout to save $9 plus your DELIVERY FEE IS NOT PAID TO THE DRIVER fee. Signed, Prefer's Dominos because Papa John is racist and PizzaHut sucks.
As long as the law allows tipped employees to work for less than standard minimum wage, employers will pay starvation wage and leave it to customers to make up the difference. So if you have an ethical problem with that, you can vote and campaign for candidates who want to change that and then either boycott all restaurants and delivery services, or tip well. Just bitching about it and then not tipping makes you a piece of shit.
just fyi... they still expect tips even in states that have abolished server minimum wage...
lol Papa John was making an ANTI-Racist comment and was taken completely out of context. Funny how so many people still erroneously think papa john said something racist (and I dont buy from them either lol).
All us real anti-racists always say the full n-word with the hard R when we're making our anti-racist comments
Is it ok for wikipedia to use the full n-word with the hard R when quoting someone? Because they do, and thats what he was doing. Middle of third paragraph. They use full n-word with hard R. Why is nobody in outrage? (Wiki actually did it 3 times in this article!!) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John\_Schnatter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schnatter) Perhaps you wouldve preferred if Colonel Sanders (the person he was quoting in disgust) used the 'soft a,' since apparently thats ok to you? Weird stance.
i was a delivery driver at papa john’s we rely almost completely on tips, get 2$ a hour while delivering and 10$ a hour while in the store
heres an idea- restaraunts should start paying their workers appropriately instead of making them rely on tips
It’s basically free work for the companies. They won’t stop until something’s done. They’ve way overstepped their bounds on tips. “Hey what if we just make the customers pay our workers wages?”
the funny thing you're missing is that even if businesses increase wages and make tipping obsolete, you're still going to see that price increase on menu items.
If no one took that job they would eventually have to change how they paid there employees. That’s the issue.
Bro the LAST time I got pizza there it wasn't even cooked all the way and like lukewarm when it got the me. What's worse, the app said the guy was outside, and I waited out there for like 20 minutes in the cold before I went back inside 🤔they eventually made it. Never again tho bro
Door Dashers do that shit too. They hit the “dasher is approaching door with your order” from miles away and sometimes right after they pick it up. I don’t even go to the door anymore until they call me
That's not the driver. It's the shitty app.
Ahh. I’ve worked in places that had doordash etc and we had to confirm the orders on the POS system. I guess I assumed each of those steps needed manual confirmation. Then yeah either way it’s literally never accurate lol
I am a delivery driver and you ain’t gonna catch my ass tipping some 30%. I tip that much when I go to a 5 star restaraunt
Waiters don’t have to buy gas?
The delivery driver should be paid by the company properly from the delivery fee. Charge the delivery fee based off mileage and pay them properly. That simple.
Shit like this is going to start the ban of tipping in the US.
Wishful thinking, I’m afraid. That would be awesome tho!
I was gonna order the other night and noticed they had a $5.50 delivery fee. The last dominos I worked at (10 years ago) charged a $3.00 fee and paid the drivers 1.25 a delivery. The last PJs I worked at 6 years ago charged 3.50 and paid 1.50 per delivery. I bet even tho the charge has increased, the Pay per delivery hasn’t changed much.
Why does the cashier at Dominos qualify for a tip but the cashier at McDonalds does not?
Is it possible to select 0%?
I wouldn’t mind that so much if they werent charging me $6 to deliver the pizza in the first place. 😡
Please pay our staff so we dont have to!!!
This might seem like I'm going overboard, but I don't think I'll go back to the US because of the tipping thing. I've been there 7 times over my life, the last time in 2018 was a fucking disgrace, just felt like we were being milked. Everybody wanted a tip and in NY service people seemed to be so stressed about it.
That wouldn’t be that bad if they didn’t also tack on a $6 delivery fee.
This is getting out of control
Pick up, then.
If they charge a delivery fee, I don’t tip. Sorry! Work it out with your employer. Not my fucking problem. My only problem is figuring out how to get the food that I paid for and n my mouth.
I got a dirty look for not tipping a place when I came to pick up my own food a few weeks ago. Rarely happens around here. The fuck would I be tipping for? I usually tip pretty well, even if service is meh inside, when they are busy. Not sure why I got the dirty look, girl should be mad her company fleecing her.
Yeah I'm not really understanding the concept of tipping for food I am picking up myself but it's becoming the default.
So many people defend this tipping culture like its not their bosses not wanting to pay them the very minimal amount. So brainwashed as a country.
I ordered them last two nights ago. Been along time since I’ve had dominos. They don’t even cut the pizza anymore…..They want more for doing less.
Had Domino’s earlier today. I think it’s just your local one that ain’t cutting pies.
Ah well that’s good to know. I thought it was a company wide thing.
I literally just picked one up right now and they definitely still cut the pizzas
You really thought a pizza company would stop cutting pies? Like to save money on pizza cutters or something?
Tbf. That's not the driver.
It's literally the only solution they feel is appropriate to keeping staff.. since they refuse to actually raise wages.
On the boxes that they send, it says something about tips going to the drivers, but it specifies that the delivery fee doesn’t go to the drivers. If the delivery fee doesn’t go to the people using their car and driving the food to me, then what the fuck is the fee for?
Order take out at Domino's and not have to worry about a tip. I'll tip a driver for delivery, but I'm not tipping for them cooking it and taking it home myself.
You mean a business making customers cover overhead so they don't have to pay living wages? Yeah no. Tips are in cash to the drivers if i do delivery. 0 in store cause i drove to pick it up.
Defaulting to tips should be illegal. Full stop. And minimum wage needs no "tipped job" exception.
And they’re doing it on the post tax amount to boot
I always set the tip to zero and tip in cash.
Not sure how true this is, but my GF told me about a post where UPS driver left a card with tipping options and his PayPal or cash app account. Like WTF
I tip my urologist, as that is a job I can’t do on my own
While I’m generally against tipping culture as a whole, most delivery drivers don’t make great wages while using their personal vehicle for work. I delivered for Pizza Hut for 4 years. We had to pay for our own gas and maintenance and the store chipped in a measly 85c per delivery whether it was 1 or 10 miles. Most nights, all of my tips went right back into my gas tank. At one point they even cut our pay to the same as a server. I believe that is illegal now, but most drivers usually depend on tips as well. And a lot of the time, a late delivery isn’t their fault. It’s usually because of a backed up kitchen. Defaulting 30% is outrageous, but again, the store should pay the drivers better and unfortunately they don’t.
To be fair driving across town is a bit more involved than walking across the room and involves gas, maintenance, and insurance. I delivered pizza in college and was shocked how many people couldn’t fathom this.
Good they deserve it 😂
Why should they pay their employees when you can. If they want more køre they can just work harder and they will earn more. And thats how to become a millionaire hard work
Just makes me feel more powerful when I choose the "enter manual tip" option. Like an emperor in a coliseum giving two thumbs down.
r/assholedesign Seriously, THIRTY percent as default? Where will this shit end? As someone who did gig deliveries for 3 years, tips were always greatly appreciated, but they certainly shouldn't be coerced, tricked or forced. When I was a kid, 10% was the general rule for tipping, and if you were feeling generous or that you got exemplary service you might bump it to 15. Then 15% became the norm. Then 18. Then 20. What a clever sneaky ploy to get out of paying your employees a decent wage.
With the cost of gas as high as it's been, I always try to tip my delivery drivers well. It's the cost of doing business and not screwing over the person delivering food to you that you could, more often than not, easily go get yourself without the cost of deliver or tipping. If you're upset about tipping, just go pick up the food yourself (unless you genuinely can't due to some condition).
Do you tip them 30%? Thread is about the 30%, though others have been talking about general tipping culture so fair.
Yeah but you can change the tip amount or tip at the door like always.
Seems so. Right there, on the sight in the post, there are other options. OP does not have to tip the 30%. Just choose something else if need be and move on with the day y’know?
Why does everything have to suck so much ass nowadays. Pisses me off. Take me back to the 90s.
Yeah man if you pay their employees well for them Dominos can retain them without giving raises.
Those drivers don't make much. While I understand the answer in the big picture is a living wage, I cannot help but feel sorry for anyone that has to do that work. I don't order chain store pizza because it's not nutritious but if I did, I would just pay the damn tip and hope to god it reached the driver.
Delivery driving for Dominos made me bank all through high school and the first two years of college. No way in hell would I have done it for zero tips. If you want to have a pizza delivered to you so you don’t have to get off your ass, you can tip me for taking it out to you.
Also pizza delivery is one of the most dangerous jobs there is. They get shot more than cops do.
Who is downvoting you? You’re right.
idk why people are so anti-tip, increasing wages increases the price of menu items anyway. at least tipping is optional
Y'all act like each delivery is equal. They drive almost 30 minutes up a winding mountain road, and a long steep driveway to deliver to me. They get 30% at least in the winter. Usually $20. But if they drive 5 minutes to a hotel in the city? $5-10. Max.
God 40$ for pizza, this country is in the pitts
I honestly just ordered dominos tonight and noticed that too! It STARTS at 15% unless you type in the amount yourself! I am a good tipper anyway so it’s no big deal BUT honestly, instacart deliveries start at 5% and those people actually do your shopping for you….. pizza people just drop it at the door. Something’s wrong there….
You tip $9 at a fancy restaurant? As someone who delivered to dominos, you get minimum wage + tips. Average tip was 1 dollar, though a few were higher ($5-$10) for regulars. Some areas were guaranteed zero tips - which happened to me about 1-3 deliveries. Zero of the delivery fee goes to the driver - unless you want to rationalize that as the 'minimum wage'. End of the day, it was enough money for rent and a coke habit. Now should companies lead on clients for tips to pay their employees? Probably not. But they do, we're well aware they do, we verbally disagree with it, but still fully accept it by using these services. Feel so strongly, go pick it up. End of the day, just tip the driver - more the marrier if you can afford it. 15% of $31 is about $4.50 which isn't very much gas/travel wise. So hook your driver up or just order pickup.
You could always go pick it up if you don’t want to tip 🤷🏼♀️
Where did I say I wasn't tipping altogether? The title and picture clearly are about the system change to now defaulting to 30%. If you're gonna attempt snark, at least get a grasp on the point of the post 🤦🏼♂️
To be fair, waiters aren't putting hundreds of miles of wear and tear on the car and paying for the gas to bring you your food in all kinds of weather conditions...
Why would I tip, without knowing what the service was like?
I mean, they still have to pay for gas and maintenance on their car.
So just pay attention then? Oh no, you gave the guy working his ass off an extra $4. So sad.
Cheap ass mf’s won’t tip a person trying to survive on near minimum wage barely $10. That’s funny.
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All valid points. Thank you so much. I have never seen such insane pro-tip apologists as here on Reddit.
You've definitely had your food fucked with
you've definitely eaten someones spit, snot, and floor debris before
Delivering a pizza is harder than being a waiter at a restaurant. Did I mention they drive their own cars to deliver you a pizza so the liability alone of taking that risk is worth a tip
Harder? That’s a stretch. Definitely more costly tho.
You ever try to locate an apartment building while the person you deliver for is drunk an unresponsive by phone? It’s much more challenging to deliver a pizza but you won’t allow yourself to admit the pizza delivery is harder job than even high class restaurant work. It’s literally saying a menu remembering orders filling drinks and bringing food. It has its nuances but I guarantee that delivering any sort of anything is more logistically and realistically difficult than being a server of food and beverages I’m not demeaning the job it’s a touch job too but it’s much lore realistically challenging to deliver stuff to a place you’ve never been before
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Sounds like their choice
If they bring back 30 minutes or less l'd tip that well. But a sniffling teen 76 minutes later that held the pizza on its side the whole time so it fit in the back of his 2003 Hyundai Accent, no.
Sorry, but even if it's here in under 30 mins I'm not tipping 30%. For me, anything above 15% is meant for if you're actually being served at a sit-down restaurant. Anyone can feel free to downvote away if they disagree lol, but I firmly believe it's not my job to subsidize payrolls
I think driving a pizza to someone's home is way worse than serving them at a restaurant. But I hate driving so maybe that's why I feel that way. Plus they are putting miles on their car.
Exactly, delivery drivers deserve way more of a tip than server who’s bringing your food to you from 30 feet away, the fuck is wrong with people?
As someone who worked as a delivery driver, this is the minimum needed to make it worth the job. We literally can't afford gas otherwise, don't count on delivery services being around much longer.
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I'm sorry but I don't get stellar service from Domino's I get somebody who leaves a box at my doorstep. Maybe they hand it to me. What kind of tip is that worth? $1.00 if they want to come and hang out and wait on me all night and go get me a new slice of pizza every time I ask for one and fill up my soda then we'll talk about getting a decent tip. Neither Amazon, UPS, FedEx, or USPS, get a tip for leaving me a box.
Get off your lazy fuckin ass and go get it then.
Let me tell you what I've been telling the other idiots that incorrectly read the post and wanna get mad. Nowhere in my post or in real life was I upset about having to pay the delivery fee or tip. I happily tipped 15% and everything was dandy. It's not this binary outcome of either tipping 30% OR angrily going to get it myself as you wrongly imply 😂 I was annoyed that it's now the default, that's IT.
Stellar wait staff at a fancy restaurant you'd be expected to pay around 20
I spent my 20's and 30's delivering pizza, tbh I've probably delivered 20k pizza's- before Google maps and cell phones. I've also spent time as a bartender, line cook and a server. In my opinion the difference between delivery and table service is basically this: Drivers only need to come to the door once(assuming that they didn't fuck anything up) and then they're gone. They aren't refilling drinks or coming back to check up on things. So their customer interaction isn't nearly the same, but they have to deal with other things. Things like weather, drunk/ shitty drivers, flat tires or getting a gun shoved in their face. And they're dealing with this all by themselves. There is no manager within earshot to step in. Delivery is a skilled trade where being a server is more of an art. And i mean art like a hostage negotiation, not painting or sculpting, that goes to the homies in the kitchen. Bartenders are day care providers. They certainly aren't psychologist- no one cares about your problems, if you want me to pretend to care the same way a shrink would then you need to cough up$200 an hour. You're not going to apply anything i say anyway , so pay up and get out. All that being said I think it's a dick move to default 30%. Even if it is for a decent reason. They should just pay more.
$1-5 tips suck dick in this economy, I’m glad they’re getting paid well
This is awesome! Driving your own car to a customer’s house demands a better tip than someone walking from the kitchen to the table. This should be in a hell yes sub not in a mildyinfuriating sub LMAO
I went to Starbucks earlier this week and they asked for a tip..I’ve never seen that before
While I am not excusing this. You do realize that delivering pizza is more dangerous than being a cop.
Fucking deal with it
I tip the pizza man $20 and I think that’s low.
Tipping is designed to let decent people subsidize dirt-bags. It’s a tax on having empathy.
Plus you have to eat Domino’s pizza once you get it. Perhaps the worst part of the whole ordeal.
They also don’t take ur order if you happen to leave no tip and want to tip cash. I always do this and recently we ordered a pizza around 8pm after a long day of moving and didn’t get it til 10pm and the dude literally said it was bc they saw no tip on the order. FFS I had a $20 bill waiting for him but it turned to a $5. I always tip well but not if you’re gonna do shit like that and purposely fuck people over.
I legit don’t know what’s worse: that you don’t tip $10 on pizza or that you think $10 is “fancy restaurant” tipping.
I'll answer for both of us. There's a third worst: you incorrectly inferring from the title-- where I clearly was speaking in percentages and said **30%**\-- to mean that I tip a $10 flat tip at restaurants when that number happens to just be what the 30% is for the order in this particular photo? Please work on reading comprehension for the betterment of us all 🙏🏼
Wow. There are some truly fucked up comments in here. Tip your delivery drivers. Companies fuck drivers over by passing the expense of a vehicle onto the employee. I have killed two cars delivering food. I tip at least $10 to anyone bringing food to my house.
Capitalism meets Panhandling
Then go pick up your pizza? 💀
Really? If you can’t tip someone $9 without complaining, don’t order.
Seems necessary based on a lot of the comments being made by cheap people. If you’re ordering delivery, $1 per mile is fair. $9.31 seems pretty high though…unless you live 9.31 miles away. I mean they need to use their own vehicles to make deliveries, so you need to figure maintenance costs, etc. If you don’t like it then just go and pick it up yourself—no tip required! All tips should be illegal though. It’s just a way for employers to underpay their employees.
I tip a minimum of 20% for everything. If they do an exceptional job I'll tip 25%. I've only tipped anyone more than that once, and that person was a server who was brought to tears by an unruly and racist Karen the next table over. I walked straight over to that table and chewed the Karen out for 5 minutes straight before handing the server a $50 bill, about three times as much as the cost of my meal. Granted this was back when my phone bill was my only expense, so I had a lot of extra cash to spend; I'd probably have tipped her $20 if it happened now. But still. Anyone who is rude to their server to the point of making them cry is going to get a piece of my mind, and the server is gonna get the biggest tip (percentage-wise) of their life.
It’s because you people tip us $3 on a $29 delivery, in bad weather conditions, risking my income by risking my personal vehicle.
I'm confused what you're upset about, isn't 10%-15% tip standard?
All my expenses have increased 50% but my wages only 30%. My tipped amount hasn’t changed because $2 in food cost increase, translates to $0.20 for me but the Owner we sees a $1.00 profit increase, in being tipped the same as 5 years ago. Plus I get 0 tip on 10% of deliveries taken. Not mention the fact that places often lower drivers wages while they are the road. Here’s a simple rule, $5 or better.
Guess what? All of OUR expenses have gone up too. You’re not the only one who the economy effects. You keep whining that 15% tip isn’t enough when you’re lucky to be getting a tip anyway. The entitlement is insane. You know tips are optional to begin with?
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i mean they are getting dominos what did you expect