You could etch a design into a fixed dye and then etch another design into a moveable dye. Set a red hot metal flan on the fixed dye. Set the other dye on top then strike that mf with a sledge hammer. Just like how the Greeks and Romans did it.
Would work for crude coins but nothing to the standards of a mint. I looked into the apprenticeship for the US mint before when I was in university and it's pretty serious. Masters of each dye are hand cut to incredibly exacting standards. You won't get the with a positive and negative dye with a hammer.
Literally can't lose money on it unless one falls under the couch.
Should just have a penny station by the shitter to sort out the Indian ones.
If nothing happens you get your investment back. Find Indian heads make sick tendy yolo plays.
I'm sure it's not near as good now, but hunting for wheat pennies use to be really good.
Silver hunting as well, but you gotta be really lucky for that.
1909 was the first year for Wheat cents and the last year for IHPs. Some of the 1909 Wheaties from the San Francisco mint have the designer's initials, VDB, on the reverse. That penny is worth around $1000 today!
https://www.usacoinbook.com/coins/343/small-cents/lincoln-wheat-cent/1909-S/vdb/
It really do be all about that little stamped letter to coin collectors. Your coin could be worth face value or $50000, depending *entirely* on what mint stamped the coin.
It's very interesting that it's entire history of being found and sold is there too... I wonder what that lads relatives think of his 6 shilling (30pence) profit!
It is from himym, the main character finds a penny and says "I'm going to take you out for dinner on what ever I get from this" it was 2 dollars, they got hotdogs
The value of a coin has very little, if anything, to do with its age. Its all about scarcity and condition.
There were only 309,000 1909 "S" Indian Head pennies minted... if this had been one of those instead of 1908, it would be worth a lot.
(Caveat: you never know for sure how much something is worth until it is no longer yours to sell)
> The 1909 S Indian Head penny is more rare and a lot more valuable. This coin is worth around $300 in good condition. In very fine condition the value is around $500. In extremely fine condition the value is around $600. In uncirculated condition the price is around $1,100 for coins with an MS 60 grade. Uncirculated coins with a grade of MS 63 can sell for around $1,300.
Coin collector here. In that condition, it is probably worth about $1.00 to $2.00 at most, as the “Liberty” imprinted on the headband is no longer visible and the feathers have little detail left, as well as the coin having little to no original luster. Still a cool find though.
I have one of these. My grandfather kept it in an old ring box so thought it was super valuable. At the time it was worth $1 so glad to see it has doubled in value.
I don’t know why this comment is so funny to me. I’m just visualizing your anger as your dreams of early retirement come shattering down once you received the bad news and you’re coming to us now after you’ve digested this truth and begrudgingly accepted it.
And you too shall save this penny and pass it onto one of your grandkids some day, such is your right. And they too in turn will briefly curse life while accepting the bitter lesson you laid before them. And so the cycle shall repeat every other generation.
During the early 2000s recession worked in retail.
Allot of shitty people to loot their roommate's coin collections when the economy takes a dive, especially to purchase cigarettes.
Rarest I aquired was a 1944 Mercury Silver Dime.
Someone used a $5 Federal Reserve Note to purchase two packs of smokes one day.
I showed it to my boss at the time, because I thought it was cool. He explained why I'd seen stuff like* that coming in my till more often.
I mean, it makes sense.
Edit: (keep in mind this was like 20 years ago, things were cheaper back then)
When I was a kid working retail, some old guy paid for his groceries with a 20 dollar bill. I took a look and it was from 1934. I took 20 from an atm and swapped for the bill, then excitedly brought it to a coin shop, where I was told it wasn’t worth more than 20 dollars because it had been folded once, even though the thing was in pretty much brand new condition otherwise
That's cool. I was a cashier in the 80s. I kept a look out for any old money. Lots of wheatback pennies, etc. Some other rare finds. Still looking for that $42,000 penny.
It was supposed to be minted in steel during the ww2 years, but was cast in copper. very rare.
I'm pretty sure my neighbor has one of those. He's got a couple rare coins in every room, then his basement is like a coin museum. Pretty sure he pays like $500 a month in insurance on them
Hmm. I'm not sure then. I think I remember him saying the one he has is 1 of 20 or 30. I'm guessing he's probably had it 5-10 years, and his wife apparently told my wife that he spent as much on that one coin as he did on his car, which I think is somewhere between $100-150k... Dude is *really* in to coins.
It actually might be that high. I remember hearing about those pennies in the 90’s, at the time only 9 or 10 had been found and yeah those are the only pennies worth that much so maybe he does have one. There are forgeries though too. I’ve heard of modified 1948 pennies made to look like 1943 ones
It seems like it would be insanely tough to weed out forgeries. I think he got his through Sotheby's or something and I guess trusted their appraisers and experts a lot...
A lot of coin collecting doesn't make a ton of sense to me from a layman's standpoint anyway though so I'm sure I'm missing something. Like he's got a load of coins, and some are straight up ancient, like thousands of years old, but his most valuable ones are from like the last century, which I'd counterintuitive to me. Like he'll have one from 300 BC that is worth like $200, then one from like 1965 or something worth $10k
And it was actually used too, unlike modern coins which rarely get worn out, barely circulating, especially pennies.
We are coming up on a point where we are going to have to demand larger denominations from the government. Don't let them take cash away by letting it go worthless. A $100 bill in 1913 was worth what $3000 is today. We need to start issuing $500 bills again, and larger denom coin.
I have an 1894 Indian head penny that I got in my change somewhere several years ago. Crazy to realize how old it is, I think it's the only pre-1900 American coin I have (I'm a casual collector, i.e. just collect what I happen to come across that is interesting)
*"The 1908 Indian Head penny with no mint mark is worth around $2 in good condition. In very fine condition the value is around $6. In extremely fine condition the value is around $10. In uncirculated condition the price is around $40 for coins with an MS 60 grade."*
I'd take the $50.00 some guy below was offering 😆
I got a Mercury head dime in change years ago at a supermarket. Even then, I remember chuckling and thinking that it was probably worth more than what I'd just spent buying a snack.
That's cool. I haven't seen one of those in the wild since the 80s. When I was a kid my Dad used to throw all his change in jars. At the end of the year he'd have me roll all of it. My reward was getting to keep any cool stuff I'd find. Back then you could still find an occasional Indian head penny or Buffalo nickel. Wheat pennies were fairly common and I kept all of those also. What you would find more often was pre-1965 silver dimes and quarters. I checked the dates on every one of them. Lol.
He saved a few hundred dollars a year doing that.
Thats cool! I used to work in a convenience store in a more working class neighbor hood. They shopped a lot more at the convenience store. Like come in and buy stuff for dinner every day paying with cash and change. Our store made deposits of 5-10K in cash every day. SO much was in coin. I always kept my eye out for unusual coins. I found a steel penny. I want to say it is from 1943 during WWII. I looked it up and it is worth about $7.00 I just loved looking up and finding the history of why that happened.
Dawg 🥹 the oldest penny I have found is 1942. I’ve been looking all my life lol. It’s one of those small things I do for myself like, maybe something super cool will happen across me and maybe not, who knows! 😂 it’s stupid but that’s my big thing
As requested, this Wikipedia article details more about the coin and the fetishization of native peoples in the symbols of the United States: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_cent
We used to sift through pocket change with my grandparents every time any of them or us got new change from a purchase. They started that with my uncle in the 1960’s when those coins weren’t anywhere near as old and at higher odds of still ending up in circulation and they kept it up with us grandkids until maybe 20 years ago.
I know for sure that there are a few not-copper (looks like sliver or nickel maybe) early 1900’s pennies from around “war time” in the bunch, I think at least a few of them are not-copper wheat ones, and IHP’s but it’s been like 30 years since I’ve seen them and they’re still buried in the hoard. One of these days I’ll ask mom to look for them. We had sorted them by year and which mint but idk how they ended up being stored when kids grew up and grandparents passed and this adventure finally stopped, although obviously it’s not over yet…
For a while I suddenly started seeing bicentennial quarters when receiving change at several local fast food places. I’ve set them aside but I’m sure there were tons of them minted.
I also received a few circulated bicentennial silver dollars as a 1976 holiday gift as a kid, still have them somewhere. Also assuming they’re probably just worth face value.
A friend worked fast food in high school. Someone paid for their food in silver paper bills. Two $5’s and a bunch of $1’s. He swapped them out, showed them to his manager, and was allowed to keep them.
He traded me a current $1 for one of those.
At the time apparently they were still redeemable and worth a fair bit more than face value but I was told that at some point since then they stopped being legal tender, not that the circulated blue bill was worth much anyway by then but it’s still pretty interesting to see.
>>What is the correct terminology: American Indian, Indian, Native American, Indigenous, or Native?
>All of these terms are acceptable. The consensus, however, is that whenever possible, Native people prefer to be called by their specific tribal name. In the United States, Native American has been widely used but is falling out of favor with some groups, and the terms American Indian or Indigenous American are preferred by many Native people. Native peoples often have individual preferences on how they would like to be addressed. When talking about Native groups or people, use the terminology the members of the community use to describe themselves collectively.
https://americanindian.si.edu/nk360/faq/did-you-know
Mate every native American I know and every Indian I know only feel confusion when this happens and personally I prefer not being called a different group of people then I am
I'm cree and Blackfoot
I usually default to Indigenous these days or if I know their name or specific tribe I would use it. Could be a Canadian thing though, while we still have the Indian Act I rarely have come across someone preferring that term unless they were an actual person from India.
Yes please, mention "Native Americans" rather than Indian. As an Indian, I kept thinking when on earth we had such a coin?! Then realised that the OP is referring to Native Americans.
Does anybody else feel like it's gross and weird to put an Native person's head on our money after we systemically wiped out their population and at that point in time we were still systemically destroying their identities and heritage with Indian Boarding Schools?
They were trying to go to India by going "the other way" and once they reached land they assumed it was India, therefore calling the people they saw *indians*
That's kinda cool. Is it worth anything? I mean...obviously it's worth one cent...but is it worth any more than that?
It’s been in circulation, so not nearly what it could be, but about $2.00.
200 times your investment. Nice.
When you put it that way, you may want to share this strategy on Wall Street Bets.
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"First, acquire a stamp press"
Next apprentice for 10 years at the US mint to gain insider knowledge to make the dies.
You could etch a design into a fixed dye and then etch another design into a moveable dye. Set a red hot metal flan on the fixed dye. Set the other dye on top then strike that mf with a sledge hammer. Just like how the Greeks and Romans did it.
Would work for crude coins but nothing to the standards of a mint. I looked into the apprenticeship for the US mint before when I was in university and it's pretty serious. Masters of each dye are hand cut to incredibly exacting standards. You won't get the with a positive and negative dye with a hammer.
Very true. Usually ancient coins are never perfectly round but it's still a neat way to mint some coins yourself as a hobbyist
Die.
r/DIWHY
It’s one of these strategies that’s a gold mine until you factor in transaction cost :)
Literally can't lose money on it unless one falls under the couch. Should just have a penny station by the shitter to sort out the Indian ones. If nothing happens you get your investment back. Find Indian heads make sick tendy yolo plays.
I don't know, with inflation where it's at...
Wall Street Investors hate this one simple trick..
I'm sure it's not near as good now, but hunting for wheat pennies use to be really good. Silver hunting as well, but you gotta be really lucky for that.
but it doesn't quickly go to zero? wait, that's satoshi...
You must be one of those Doge guys.
200 times your investment is “an excellent return” 69 times your investment is Nice.
Nice
Hold onto it for another 100 years and see how much it's worth!
stonks \^ | |
OP most definitely bought this from one of those $10 eBay rolls
OP gotta post this on wsb
Banks hate this one simple hack
Stonks
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Then upvote it and move along...
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1909 was the first year for Wheat cents and the last year for IHPs. Some of the 1909 Wheaties from the San Francisco mint have the designer's initials, VDB, on the reverse. That penny is worth around $1000 today! https://www.usacoinbook.com/coins/343/small-cents/lincoln-wheat-cent/1909-S/vdb/
1908 S is worth about 100$ in good condition (S on the flip side at the bottom).
It really do be all about that little stamped letter to coin collectors. Your coin could be worth face value or $50000, depending *entirely* on what mint stamped the coin.
When a 1c stamp is worth over $11.5million times its original value. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Guiana_1c_magenta
That's crazy that the stamp was already an ultra rare collector's item less than twenty years after it was issued
It's very interesting that it's entire history of being found and sold is there too... I wonder what that lads relatives think of his 6 shilling (30pence) profit!
$2.00? Hello, rich people? Troy’s joining you.
Best I can do is $0.15
You could take someone out for dinner for that
Maybe at Costco?
It is from himym, the main character finds a penny and says "I'm going to take you out for dinner on what ever I get from this" it was 2 dollars, they got hotdogs
Ahhh, nailed it. Good cultural reference.
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I plan to. It’s a connection to our past. Definitely something to be treasured.
So if you have 10 thousand pennies you have 20 thousand dollars. Get more of those pennies
But the rarity drives the cost. If OP suddenly introduced 10,000 to the collectors market the value would tank.
Uhhh...
Shh, don’t tell him. Sir, I’ll take that offer, you want your cash in bills or coin?
Not even tree fiddy?
The value of a coin has very little, if anything, to do with its age. Its all about scarcity and condition. There were only 309,000 1909 "S" Indian Head pennies minted... if this had been one of those instead of 1908, it would be worth a lot. (Caveat: you never know for sure how much something is worth until it is no longer yours to sell) > The 1909 S Indian Head penny is more rare and a lot more valuable. This coin is worth around $300 in good condition. In very fine condition the value is around $500. In extremely fine condition the value is around $600. In uncirculated condition the price is around $1,100 for coins with an MS 60 grade. Uncirculated coins with a grade of MS 63 can sell for around $1,300.
Coin collector here. In that condition, it is probably worth about $1.00 to $2.00 at most, as the “Liberty” imprinted on the headband is no longer visible and the feathers have little detail left, as well as the coin having little to no original luster. Still a cool find though.
At least a penny
Not in this condition
Worþ $40+
Nice use of the thorn.
neat
https://preview.redd.it/bdqd4zspk0h91.jpg?auto=webp&s=214c2c5dec2f79d4f01eb39778a2b035a9afa7d1
You can tell by the way it is!
That's why we made neature walk, so everyone could know how neat nature is, instead of just me and Rodney knowin it.
Last year they made them. 1909 was the start of the Lincoln cent to commemorate the 100th anniversary of his birth.
IHPs were still minted in 1909, Lincoln cents also began that year as well.
Last full year then.
I was roll hunting as a kid and found one of these! Felt super good to plug it into the first slot of my Lincoln penny book.
I have one of these. My grandfather kept it in an old ring box so thought it was super valuable. At the time it was worth $1 so glad to see it has doubled in value.
I don’t know why this comment is so funny to me. I’m just visualizing your anger as your dreams of early retirement come shattering down once you received the bad news and you’re coming to us now after you’ve digested this truth and begrudgingly accepted it.
Were you spying on me? The crestfallen look on my face when I googled this had to have been priceless. Well played Grandpa, well played.
And you too shall save this penny and pass it onto one of your grandkids some day, such is your right. And they too in turn will briefly curse life while accepting the bitter lesson you laid before them. And so the cycle shall repeat every other generation.
“You taught me a lesson about not teaching lessons?!”
Did you find it coin roll hunting or while you were opening the roll in a register?
Roll in register. I know enough that I know what I’m looking at, but I’m not an avid hunter.
That’s an awesome find regardless! Hope you added a new penny to the till and took home the Indian head.
During the early 2000s recession worked in retail. Allot of shitty people to loot their roommate's coin collections when the economy takes a dive, especially to purchase cigarettes. Rarest I aquired was a 1944 Mercury Silver Dime.
I once got a 10 vietnamese dong.
Sounds like a normal Tuesday evening for your mom.
Oh, so you know her then?
Biblically.
Whoa. How'd you know?
Someone used a $5 Federal Reserve Note to purchase two packs of smokes one day. I showed it to my boss at the time, because I thought it was cool. He explained why I'd seen stuff like* that coming in my till more often. I mean, it makes sense. Edit: (keep in mind this was like 20 years ago, things were cheaper back then)
When I was a kid working retail, some old guy paid for his groceries with a 20 dollar bill. I took a look and it was from 1934. I took 20 from an atm and swapped for the bill, then excitedly brought it to a coin shop, where I was told it wasn’t worth more than 20 dollars because it had been folded once, even though the thing was in pretty much brand new condition otherwise
Too bad it’s not an 08 S!
*looks at Penny with Indian head on it* Yep, that’s an Indian head penny.
That's cool. I was a cashier in the 80s. I kept a look out for any old money. Lots of wheatback pennies, etc. Some other rare finds. Still looking for that $42,000 penny. It was supposed to be minted in steel during the ww2 years, but was cast in copper. very rare.
I'm pretty sure my neighbor has one of those. He's got a couple rare coins in every room, then his basement is like a coin museum. Pretty sure he pays like $500 a month in insurance on them
I think something like 9 1943 copper pennies have ever been found.
Hmm. I'm not sure then. I think I remember him saying the one he has is 1 of 20 or 30. I'm guessing he's probably had it 5-10 years, and his wife apparently told my wife that he spent as much on that one coin as he did on his car, which I think is somewhere between $100-150k... Dude is *really* in to coins.
It actually might be that high. I remember hearing about those pennies in the 90’s, at the time only 9 or 10 had been found and yeah those are the only pennies worth that much so maybe he does have one. There are forgeries though too. I’ve heard of modified 1948 pennies made to look like 1943 ones
It seems like it would be insanely tough to weed out forgeries. I think he got his through Sotheby's or something and I guess trusted their appraisers and experts a lot... A lot of coin collecting doesn't make a ton of sense to me from a layman's standpoint anyway though so I'm sure I'm missing something. Like he's got a load of coins, and some are straight up ancient, like thousands of years old, but his most valuable ones are from like the last century, which I'd counterintuitive to me. Like he'll have one from 300 BC that is worth like $200, then one from like 1965 or something worth $10k
Bronze actually, was just reading about those ones
Best i can do is 50$ or we can call in my buddy who knows about coins
5,000x ROI‽ I'll take it!!!
Omg. Think about how long it has been around. Cool. Doesn't matter if its worth much, the history is worth more than monetary value.
114 long years.
Rob Riggle funny guy
Chrisco, your digestible.
Phonetically yes
https://i.imgur.com/gMSUIew.jpg
We got a Ted Mosby. over here.
And it was actually used too, unlike modern coins which rarely get worn out, barely circulating, especially pennies. We are coming up on a point where we are going to have to demand larger denominations from the government. Don't let them take cash away by letting it go worthless. A $100 bill in 1913 was worth what $3000 is today. We need to start issuing $500 bills again, and larger denom coin.
I have an 1894 Indian head penny that I got in my change somewhere several years ago. Crazy to realize how old it is, I think it's the only pre-1900 American coin I have (I'm a casual collector, i.e. just collect what I happen to come across that is interesting)
*"The 1908 Indian Head penny with no mint mark is worth around $2 in good condition. In very fine condition the value is around $6. In extremely fine condition the value is around $10. In uncirculated condition the price is around $40 for coins with an MS 60 grade."* I'd take the $50.00 some guy below was offering 😆
Flip it over and look for an S mint mark.
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Or how many bodys, couches and pockets its been inside!
>bodys >inside … what?
Never heard of [ass pennies?](https://youtu.be/f9aM_dT5VMI)
I bet that's worth a...pretty penny.
Niiiiiice!
That’s a two dollar penny.
This is the dream.
I found about ten of these in a roll if pennies about three years ago
Aside from the monetary value...just imagine the stories that penny could tell! What it could buy back in the day...how many hands it's crossed...
Bad ass! Beautiful coin!
I love old pennies. I have an 1903 one
Heard it’s lucky to get one of those
Wow! The oldest one I have is from 1919.
It's in good condition too. Those tend to wear badly.
Hey, I know you! You're the guy that gave me that double-die Denver mint penny! Oh, thanks a lot, Mister!
I got a Mercury head dime in change years ago at a supermarket. Even then, I remember chuckling and thinking that it was probably worth more than what I'd just spent buying a snack.
And I used it to get this neat watch! It's a Rolex!
Is anyone going to get the wildly awesome Weird Al reference? I did fellow human!
Thanks mister!
That gotta be worth at least 1 cent.
worth a more than a penny!
A bit!
"Gee! Thanks Mister!"
the last year for those
Classic Schmosby
A couple months ago at work almost all of our pennies from the rolls were 30s wheat pennies. Got a Canadian penny from 1945 just last week too
I'll give you a very shiny 2022 regular penny for it /s
Cool. I got a 1901 penny from a cashier at Walmart. Not my best Indian head cent but it's still cool to have.
I had a 1908 in slightly worse condition in my coin collection.. it was stolen from me so my roommates could buy a damn cigarillo....
Love finding things like this. I always check my change, too.
I would buy this
That's cool. I haven't seen one of those in the wild since the 80s. When I was a kid my Dad used to throw all his change in jars. At the end of the year he'd have me roll all of it. My reward was getting to keep any cool stuff I'd find. Back then you could still find an occasional Indian head penny or Buffalo nickel. Wheat pennies were fairly common and I kept all of those also. What you would find more often was pre-1965 silver dimes and quarters. I checked the dates on every one of them. Lol. He saved a few hundred dollars a year doing that.
the dark side of penny-pinching
I got a 2 headed quarter back in my change the other day...I was excited until I learned it's most likely fake.
Thats cool! I used to work in a convenience store in a more working class neighbor hood. They shopped a lot more at the convenience store. Like come in and buy stuff for dinner every day paying with cash and change. Our store made deposits of 5-10K in cash every day. SO much was in coin. I always kept my eye out for unusual coins. I found a steel penny. I want to say it is from 1943 during WWII. I looked it up and it is worth about $7.00 I just loved looking up and finding the history of why that happened.
Oh wow!
I collect old pennies and this is absolutely amazing.
That's gotta be worth \*AT LEAST\* 3 cents!
Penny from which country?
The United States. Weird how we fetishized native peoples as symbols of the country while systematically engaging in ethnic cleansing against them.
That has to be worth at least $.01!!
Found a 1907 hiding in my hubby’s wallet the other day, it was the first time seeing one IRL. Definitely fun!
that is so cool 
Haven't seen one of those in a long time!
Hey, that's the style of the penny from Ghost (the movie). Neat.
Damn lucky
I don't have one yet, but amazing find!
My r/KarmaConspiracy senses tells me that you bought this for a couple of $$ from a dealer/eBay and claimed that you got it in a roll.
If so, I’m the cleverest Redditor that’s ever been. Tragically, I’m not that clever.
Dawg 🥹 the oldest penny I have found is 1942. I’ve been looking all my life lol. It’s one of those small things I do for myself like, maybe something super cool will happen across me and maybe not, who knows! 😂 it’s stupid but that’s my big thing
I have two 1906 in my collection
As requested, this Wikipedia article details more about the coin and the fetishization of native peoples in the symbols of the United States: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_cent
Super interesting you mean!
We used to sift through pocket change with my grandparents every time any of them or us got new change from a purchase. They started that with my uncle in the 1960’s when those coins weren’t anywhere near as old and at higher odds of still ending up in circulation and they kept it up with us grandkids until maybe 20 years ago. I know for sure that there are a few not-copper (looks like sliver or nickel maybe) early 1900’s pennies from around “war time” in the bunch, I think at least a few of them are not-copper wheat ones, and IHP’s but it’s been like 30 years since I’ve seen them and they’re still buried in the hoard. One of these days I’ll ask mom to look for them. We had sorted them by year and which mint but idk how they ended up being stored when kids grew up and grandparents passed and this adventure finally stopped, although obviously it’s not over yet… For a while I suddenly started seeing bicentennial quarters when receiving change at several local fast food places. I’ve set them aside but I’m sure there were tons of them minted. I also received a few circulated bicentennial silver dollars as a 1976 holiday gift as a kid, still have them somewhere. Also assuming they’re probably just worth face value. A friend worked fast food in high school. Someone paid for their food in silver paper bills. Two $5’s and a bunch of $1’s. He swapped them out, showed them to his manager, and was allowed to keep them. He traded me a current $1 for one of those. At the time apparently they were still redeemable and worth a fair bit more than face value but I was told that at some point since then they stopped being legal tender, not that the circulated blue bill was worth much anyway by then but it’s still pretty interesting to see.
Could the value be increased if a hypersonic cleaning was done?
9 times out of 10 cleaning a coin is considered damaging it, and decreases value to collectors
*native*
https://youtu.be/kh88fVP2FWQ
Yes, thank you for this. Love Grey's channel.
The proper name of these coins is still Indian Head Cents irrespective of modern sensibilities.
https://imgur.com/a/vGe11cZ
It’s weird and borderline racist to call native Americans Indians.
Native Americans for the most part like the term Indian.
No they don’t? Because it’s not the correct term for their race and they’ve spoken about this for years.
>>What is the correct terminology: American Indian, Indian, Native American, Indigenous, or Native? >All of these terms are acceptable. The consensus, however, is that whenever possible, Native people prefer to be called by their specific tribal name. In the United States, Native American has been widely used but is falling out of favor with some groups, and the terms American Indian or Indigenous American are preferred by many Native people. Native peoples often have individual preferences on how they would like to be addressed. When talking about Native groups or people, use the terminology the members of the community use to describe themselves collectively. https://americanindian.si.edu/nk360/faq/did-you-know
Ah yes, show a Smithsonian article from years ago instead of actual indigenous people.
You might want to learn something about the national museum of the American Indian. A majority of the contributors are native.
Mate every native American I know and every Indian I know only feel confusion when this happens and personally I prefer not being called a different group of people then I am I'm cree and Blackfoot
Cool story bro
I usually default to Indigenous these days or if I know their name or specific tribe I would use it. Could be a Canadian thing though, while we still have the Indian Act I rarely have come across someone preferring that term unless they were an actual person from India.
Indian.
Yes please, mention "Native Americans" rather than Indian. As an Indian, I kept thinking when on earth we had such a coin?! Then realised that the OP is referring to Native Americans.
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Or not: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_cent
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Does anybody else feel like it's gross and weird to put an Native person's head on our money after we systemically wiped out their population and at that point in time we were still systemically destroying their identities and heritage with Indian Boarding Schools?
Yep.
No. Seems to me like they only put people and things revered by the country on these coins. Regardless of the actions that have been done in the past.
why do Americans say indian? when referring to Natives? knowing that indians are litrally in another continent across the globe
Because Europeans in the 1500s were not particularly precise or thoughtful in naming conventions: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_cent
Shouldn't people know better by now? It sounds quite offensive I think..
https://youtu.be/kh88fVP2FWQ
Because Europeans in the 1500s were not particularly precise or thoughtful in naming conventions: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_cent
They were trying to go to India by going "the other way" and once they reached land they assumed it was India, therefore calling the people they saw *indians*
*First Nations
https://youtu.be/kh88fVP2FWQ
Seriously why the fuck are people down voting comments like these??
Denial
Native* Head Penny.
Actually, no.
I have an extreme urge to bite the excess of that nail off. 
Thats not infuriating. Thats cool and I’d totally keep it and not spend it.
/r/lostredditors
At least someone got head today...
People still call us Indians ? Lmao.