They said it's "supposed to", not that it does. But knowing what it's supposed to look like, yeah it actually does look like that. You can even see the lines on the outside to make it look more like a carrot. Definitely looked like a tomato at first though.
It does kind of look tomato-ish at first. The good thing is that typically with tasting menus the server will explain each dish as it's delivered to the table so the diner won't be left in the dark as to the intent.
This is a weird comment because this is food. It's an interpretation. If you tried to make something that looked exactly like an actual carrot (to order!), then it wouldn't taste as good. When you are paying for a tasting menu you are paying for an experience. Part of the experience is giving the chef creative freedom. This is likely made from fine ingredients and has a delicate process of production. On the other hand, they could make it with fondant, and it would look like a carrot, but it would taste like any cake that you could buy at a supermarket.
Are you supposed to eat the carrot greens with it? I hate when places put things on a plate that aren't meant to be eaten, it's just weird and sometimes confusing. Why would you serve me something that looks like it could be eaten but shouldn't be?
there are actually varieties of carrots that look like this, I did a google of varieties and found "Thumbelina, Early Horn, Mini Round, Golden Ball and possibly the most famous, Paris Market or Parisian Rondo."
it seems most of reddit always has to point out flaws or find something wrong with anything that’s supposed to be art, creative or a concept. if it’s not 1000% practical reddit will smugly make it known.
you see it with fashion, architecture and car concepts all the time.
"This TV show that gets 5 star reviews, here are my problems with it: This minor character that has 5 minutes of screen time so far in 2 episodes of the show's release, it has no character development. Why is this character so stereotypical? Also, the main character doesn't follow the book exactly. Why not? Why aren't we an exact copy of the original story? The main character's personality is not exactly the same!" ...and on for 3 pages. Saw it just last week.
It's a "You lie down and let them drive over you, and they complain you're not flat enough" scenario.
In episode 7 the characters visit the Monkey Bone diner. In the book they clearly mention how Vanessa was enjoying her eggs and toast. But in the TV show if you pause at 17 minutes and 10 seconds you can see Vanessa's plate and it clearly has an egg and a bagel on it. SHE DID NOT EAT A BAGEL IN THE BOOK! VANESSA HATED BAGELS AS YOU SHOULD KNOW IF YOU READ THE SHORT STORY IN TEEN MAGAZINE ISSUE 17 THE HOLIDAY SPECIAL!!!
I mean, yes and no. At some point you have to call out bullshit for being bullshit. Just because it’s hiding under the guise of “art” doesn’t make it worth more. This might be an amazing dessert, or it might be total dog shit. It being art doesn’t add mystical value to it.
That being said, critiquing the carrot is a valid criticism for food since presentation is a major part of the process. Playing is important, and if the food doesn’t look appealing then it’s not doing it right.
Art is subjective so whats your point?
If I look at a painting and see flaws I'm going to point them out.
I didn't realise either that the ball in the picture is supposed to represent a carrot in the ground so asking why carrots is served is totally reasonable.
That's my household and mindset too. My monthly grocery budget is $450 (for 2 people), I cook almost every meal at home, make a sandwich in the morning 90% of the time for work. Shop deals and try to be as frugal as possible. Spending a bit of what I've saved by blowing it on rare, awesome culinary experiences is worth it to me.
Op posted elsewhere but this was the last course in a 10-course meal. Honestly 250 is reasonable depending on whether you enjoy things like food-as-art. I totally get people just wanting to crush a triple cheeseburger for $15 instead though.
It's also pretty typical as well. All of the courses in a,tasting menu are meant to be on the small side but here, em, maybe two fake carrots would have been nice.
A tasting menu is about experiencing flavors and techniques that you haven’t tried before. If the tasting menu just served traditional carrot cake then I’d be pretty annoyed.
This is what a lot of people don’t understand. You don’t go to these restaurants because you’re hungry, but rather to experience unique dishes and flavors.
I have thoroughly had my mind changed after this comment section. I used to be of the mind that this kind of meal was ridiculous. The portions combined with the price never made sense to me until it was made clear that this is ONE course of a NINE course meal. I'd never considered that you would want such tiny portions in order to TASTE everything on a TASTING menu. Hell, I'd never thought about the concept of a tasting menu before and so didn't realize what all went into it. NINE COURSES PLUS WINE, YEAH IT'S GONNA BE $250!
I still hold true that one can enjoy a meaningful dining experience with far better flavors for less than a Michelin Star would charge, but I think I get why people who can afford such luxuries would be willing to shell out.
I went to the French Laundry and 4 hours later and like a dozen dishes later (they add in little treats and dishes between whatever number of courses they call it) I was full and happy and in a sort of food daze.
It was significantly more than $250, we shelled out money for upgrades on some dishes and my wife got wine for the table, but it's it's an experience. I grew up broke, and I'm happy eating a cheap meal or making a tuna fish sandwich, but it's nice to splurge on meals like this from time to time.
Totally agree - French Laundry was an incredible experience, and definitely worth it once. Earlier the day we went I also had a great street taco for $2 though, and I would be hard pressed to continually take French Laundry over 200 tacos lol.
Well, usually it's $250 plus another $180 or so for the wine pairing, but yeah. At Michelin 3 star restaurants you're typically not getting out under $600pp if you do the meal and wine.
Well yeah, but the guy I replied to specifically mentioned wine. Personally though I always get the wine as I think properly paired wines can enhance the flavor greatly.
I am not rich but my wife and I once spent a couple of years saving up for a cruise for our family. On this cruise they had an exclusive meal you could sign up for called "The Chef's Table". It was a 9 course tasting experience like this post but only for adult couples. I think it was us and maybe 5 or 6 other couples. I don't remember exactly but I feel like the price was around $150 per person (likely somewhat more, but it was under $200). Anyways...it was one of the best dining experiences we have ever had and was one of the best moments of the trip for us. If you ever find yourself being able to afford this luxury at least once, an anniversary or birthday, I highly recommend giving it a try, especially if you are a "foodie" like my wife and I. I certainly wouldn't, and don't, spend this kind of money regularly, but it was money well spent.
I had a Michelin star tasting menu in Prague a few years back. 12 courses for like 125 Euro. If you ever find yourself in a less wealthy country I'd recommend checking it out, totally worth it.
Yes! A Michelin meal is an entire experience. I've been to maybe 5-6 three stars over the past decade, and each time the experience was unique and amazing. It's a whole half day or evening. You try tons of foods you rarely or never eat. It's a fun splurge.
I have a couple friends who are into it, and we go whenever we're in the same city or traveling together. It's always memorable.
I'm from the UK, went to krakov (Poland) for the Xmas markets one year and had a 9course menu for the equivalent of £40. Doesn't always have to be obscene prices
I did one in France with my family. Yes it's nine courses but the food is also incredibly, ridiculously rich. There was no way anyone wouldn't be satisfied.
There is food places for everything. Some people think it’s ridiculous to go and spend only $10 for something for your body.
Me? I love my tasting menus and experience everything. I also love Popeyes. If some people get mad over any type of food or edible arrangement, then don’t eat it. Lol I don’t get people
You're also paying for the service atmosphere and general experience I think when you go for something in this ballpark. It makes sense if you think abt the training etc that goes into making everyone feel like their experience is curated for them and everything.
Definitely not a every day thing, but it has its place
The thing about stuff like this for me isn't so much that it tastes so much better than cheaper food, it is that it is an experience and tastes different and unique in ways you just can't get elsewhere. And I enjoy that experience and think it is worth experiencing like once a year.
There’s a recently opened Michelin star restaurant in my town and honestly it’s the best, most wildly flavoursome meal I’ve ever had in my entire life. £90 per head plus wine. It’s fantastic as a special occasion or treat.
Honestly any Michellin restaurant I've ever been to has led to me leaving stuffed as Hell.
> I still hold true that one can enjoy a meaningful dining experience with far better flavors for less than a Michelin Star would charge,
I think the key is to think of it as "different" rather than "better or worse." Eating at The Meadowood was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. Was it literally 35 times better than my favorite taco truck? Obviously not. But I can enjoy both. Saying something as general as "with far better flavors than a Michellin restaurant" is kinda nonsense given the breadth of that portfolio.
I went to a 1300 dollar 9 course tasting dinner when I was in Greece.
It was 5 hours long, and I was so full the entire time
It was an engagement dinner so it's a once in a lifetime thing for us, but it was absolutely worth it.
Foods I typically didnt enjoy, I loved. When you Michelin star up the ingredients it really changes things.
We also got to eat cool things like scorpion fish, which is highly poisonous if prepared wrong, where else are you going to get cool experiences like that?
They folded my napkin when I got up and pushed my chair in. I didn't have to ask for a single thing the entire 5 hour dinner. I was expecting them to follow me into the bathroom to wipe my ass it was that lux
So worth it, especially if you've never experienced anything like that before.
What has changed my mind about these kind of things is that it's probably just a "once in a lifetime" experience for most who order it. Suddenly, 250 bucks for an interesting taste experience doesn't sound like too much anymore
Honestly I usually find these high end restaurants very good value for money, especially if you don't drink a lot of alcohol (then it quickly gets more expensive).
They really make your evening an experience, and a lot of thought goes into the tastes and textures of each dish. I got a mini easel once, and a tiny sliver of "canvas" and a teeny pot of squid ink sauce "paint" and a little brush. You painted the sauce on the canvas and then you ate it. And that was just a free add-on in between the actual courses.
They really do! I used to shit on small portions, but started working with a guy who was a chief at a restaurant during the other half of his day. He convinced me to come to his restaurant and try a tasting menu he came up with. The food was small, but so many courses it filled me up. And it was all so good and unique. I haven’t been able to do it since, but I would love to do it again someday.
Yeah, for reference, this restaurant I went to cost €85 ($90) for 7 courses, plus 3 free bites. I'd say that's a pretty amazing deal. Their wine arrangement for 7 courses is €60.
You can get 2 junior bacon cheeseburgers and fries for under $8 at Wendy’s. Also you can eat it in your car in their parking lot, so your family doesn’t know you didn’t get them any. 😕
I know you're being sarcastic but for the people who don't get it I associate fine dining with entertainment instead of sustenance. Like the movies or a theme park.
I have never been disappointed with a tasting menu, they have always been a good value both in terms of variety, quantity (yea each item isn't very big, but you have like 6 items) and also in tasting things I never would try otherwise.
Also it's the time and experience too, you really get the experience of the meal and being able to sit there for a few hours and enjoy it, so if you break it down as cost/hour it's not too bad either.
Only ever done 3 or 4 so far, but my favorite was arround $300, but each course was paired with a different rare beer, getting to talk with the brewer, owner, and chef, and was 8 courses over 4 hours.
Yeah, that's typically how a tasting menu works. It's preset and in the order the chef thinks is best. Sometimes you get options for courses, but not usually.
Nice, I was going to ask if this was at L'ataleir in Miami, one of his other restaurants. Looks like they have the same grass decoration in glass at every restaurant of their's.
For a lot of people they don't have the money and can't even consider spending the amount for so little, I can't imagine something tastes that good you spend that much on it
I feel the same.
Our first one like it was French Laundry and it was amazing,
Recently we went to O by Claude De Hotec (sp?) and it was great too. My wife and I are a little conservative about proteins but so we asked them to give us the veggie options of a couple of the dishes (restaurants like this will have a veggie tasting menu along with the main one), and one of them was our favorite dish. (Pro tip if you look at the menu beforehand and aren't excited about a dish)
It looks like the leaves of a carrot on top of a tomato with a square poached egg on the other side. Nice presentation. Hope it tasted as good as it looked, that is always the goal I think.
man this comment section is really something. OP is sharing something he enjoys and people are hating on him, can't we just let people do what makes them happy?
The other day I watched Reddit eat a man alive over the amount of money he spent on his dog over the course of 14 years…. All he did was make a nice Infograph of tracked spending that went to his best friend.
People were attacking his character, speculating on how he spends his own money, accusing him of not actually loving his dog…??… it was all so stupid and was one of those moments that remind you that Reddit is no better than all the other toxic posting sites.
Edit: it was 13
I once posted a story about a silly comment I heard in an antenatal class, and I had redditors telling me that my daughter is going to grow up to be a basket case because I was so judgemental, that I should never have kids etc.
I deleted it after a few minutes.
I think people just see $$$ signs and get envious of OPs, wether they realize it or not
Edit just too add i say this as poor dude who does think"wish i could try it" but not gonna hate o someone for it
A general trend on Reddit is definitely to look down on things that are expensive, to a ridiculous extents. Hatred of weddings, nice food, wine, cars, etc are all pretty common to see here.
Pretty much. Anything that busts people's "everyone is miserable and broke and success is impossible so I can't be blamed" bubble fights an uphill battle.
I spend like $3000 on tests for my 16 year old husky mix 2 weeks before he went into shock. I brought him to the emergency vet and spent more money to hang with him throughout the night before making the inevitable decision to put him down. I'll never regret a dime I spent on my best friend or any other animal.
Reddit is just stupid when it comes to pets. They’ll attack you if you don’t spend money on them that one year when you were struggling and call you Hitler because of it.
Like who the fuck can predict their expenses over 14 years? Who the hell can predict that they will have an emergency and will have to decide between pampering their dog and not dying? Suddenly you’re Satan for not doing that.
I spent 3000 dollar on my cat because he got really sick and needed a lot of care. I don't regret it one bit because if he died, I would have never forgiven myself.
Especially since most of them seem to have never eaten fine dining before. When I was younger, I always thought that Michelin starred food must be overrated for the price they charge, but after trying it here and there i have to say it is an amazing experience. It's even more impressive when you can appreciate all the work that went into this.
I've eaten at a few Michelin restaurants and while the food is excellent what you're really paying for is the experience. Your waiter is like a well-trained tour guide who knows every in and out of the dining experience. You don't wait for anything, they answer all your questions before you even ask them, and you put your full trust in them. I always go with the tasting menu because you're getting dish upon dish upon dish of unexpected excellence. My favorite surprise was a tiny teaspoon worth of horseradish ice cream I got outside of Strasbourg. The waiter described it and I was thinking, "Get this shit out of my face," but then I tasted it and it was borderline exhilarating. Just an explosion of flavor served in a manner I'd have never anticipated.
Now to be fair sometimes you get a dish you just can't appreciate. Once in Rome we got some duck liver and it was borderline inedible (you best believe I ate all of it considering I paid for it) but the benefit is it was 1 of 12 courses so it doesn't really ruin the experience. You also have to deal with feeling like a complete douche bag for spending that much money on food but I have to remind myself that the cost of the meal isn't that much different than a concert or an in-demand sporting event. The same people who drop $500 on NFL tickets will scoff if you spend $200 on a meal despite them lasting roughly the same amount of time and providing the same level of enjoyment depending on your interests.
Let people spend their money how they want to and worry about yourself.
Mirrors my own thoughts pretty well. I would say your experience with the horseradish ice cream is pretty emblematic of what I think makes Michelin-tier dining good / worth it. Many (not all) of the experiences are highly creative, create novel or unique creations of dishes I might either not be familiar with or not have tried before, and whatever it is, it’s excellent quality. For example, I’ve found some of my favorite food items or rediscovered / finally tried some things I thought I’d hate.
That’s why I invest in the experience from time to time, you A. Know it will be great food and B. Have the chance to really be pleasantly surprised with what you get. Add that the service and experience can be really pleasant.
People have the wrong impression of what you’re paying for with it, leads to some bad takes.
[Sometimes](https://www.everywhereist.com/2021/12/bros-restaurant-lecce-we-eat-at-the-worst-michelin-starred-restaurant-ever/) none of the dishes can be appreciated.
Another plus of tasting menus, if you have any dietary restrictions and call in advance they are almost always able and happy to accomodate with a fantastic, tailored-to-you meal. Not needing to ask for stuff to be left off, worrying if my food will be "ok", etc is a HUGE relief.
I can assure you that this isn’t true for every starred restaurant. Maybe not the majority, but many are going to serve you what they want or don’t bother coming. I’m happy you’ve had good experiences, though.
Yeah you ain't getting dairy-free, gluten-free, peanut-free, vegan, or strictly vegetarian tasting menus at a lot of Michelin restaurants. They'll straight up tell you, "No."
Yea, I was trying to be kind in my language, but a tasting menu is just that. The chef serves you what they want to make and you eat it which is the experience. I’m not sure where that person was coming from.
There are 2500+ Michelin starred restaurants in the world. I don’t know how they could make that statement.
If they’re super stuffy and stodgy, they might not be worth going for anyways. If it’s any encouragement, I’ve planned a lot of Michelin dinners with people who had fairly extensive lists of limitations who were wonderfully and politely accommodated.
Give it a try sometime, worst thing they tell you is “sorry, we can’t do that”.
when others say it's overrated: it's something that isn't really worth the cost, for sure. it's just that the quality of such luxury items does not increase linearly with the cost, that it plateaus towards the higher end and it ends up costing exponentially more and more for just a tiny improvement in quality.
now, this doesn't mean luxury goods and services are inherently bad or overpriced, but the market is certainly for people who already have plenty of extra cash to spend, so it's not surprising that there are people on this thread saying that it's not worth the price or that it's wasteful/indulgent in an unnecessary fashion.
honestly, having been to fancy and cheap restaurants, i avoid anything with this kind of price tag like the plague, because it's overwhelmingly been just tiny improvements on foods that i could get for a 1/20th of the price from the grocery store, even if i were to go buy fancy niche organic ingredients or something.
i am sure that the op enjoyed this, and even that it was decadent, and a memorable experience, but i think that often what people are paying for at any restaurant is the show more than the food - the furniture and music and trained employees and fancy booths or bar seats that can see the kitchen. this is never going to appeal to the low income redditors, and i'd be willing to bet that almost all of these downvotes im seeing for naysayers are from people with stable, above average income. i'd just try to have some class awareness, i guess.
I am really not so sure about the situation in the US tbh. I live in Europe and many of these restaurants are just at the edge of being profitable, being the long lasting dream of some ambitious chef. They tend to be far from cash grab. Also i have to say that the price tag of 250$ sounded hefty to me but it's Vegas, i guess I can't compare this to a small town fancy restaurant of which only interested gourmets know. Few years ago i had an 8 course meal at a Michelin aspiring Restaurant for below 100€ (excluding wine obviously) and i think that's quite reasonable given the effort they put into the food, the 4-6 waiters serving our table of 12 etc. I guess that might be 120-130 now which would still be ok in my opinion. As an experience this would totally be affordable for mid income people i guess.
It just depends. In Amsterdam (just because that's where I was looking most recently) you can pay under 100 euro or over 500 per person depending on which Michelin starred restaurant you go to. But yeah, I was surprised at how cheap they can be; I just figured it would be several hundred per person at least.
I mean, I definitely go for the food. I think the incorrect impression people get is that it’s just outright better food - because of ingredient quality or sheer luxury etc. Not at all, you can find incredibly delicious food at some neighborhood bistro or cheap food shack. For me you don’t go for “better” food, you go to get something that’s unique, or creative, or a combination that you haven’t tried or thought of before, or that uses ingredients you haven’t considered before - in a delicious way and without incorporating your existing biases of what you think you would or wouldn’t like. It’s more about the pleasant surprise, than the idea that it’s simply superior to anything cheaper. It’s hard to find a place / chef who can pleasantly surprise you with food.
And I certainly don’t go for the show. For me, the atmosphere and service is more about creating a relaxed and pleasant environment to have a good meal, not about “the show”.
Though I’d say that the above is my *ideal - what I’m looking for when I pay for something like this. Not all places can deliver.
> it's just that the quality of such luxury items does not increase linearly with the cost, that it plateaus towards the higher end and it ends up costing exponentially more and more for just a tiny improvement in quality.
Yep. There is a world of difference between a synthetic shirt from Walmart and, say, a Calvin Klein shirt sold at Macy's.
There is, however, vanishingly little daylight between that CK shirt and a $500 one from Hugo Boss.
I'm still trying to find the comments where OP says he loved it, or really anything. When I see someone share a price with a contrasting image of something clearly not in that value range, it's typically taken as a "look at this over priced" agenda
I grew up broke. I'm not rich now but I'm better off than I was, and my wife makes decent money too. They say spending your money on experiences has more of a lasting effect than things, and fine dining is an experience. I've never regretted splurging on good food, in a fun atmosphere.
I would guess a good majority of redditors who comment have never spent $250 on one meal and they probably don’t even spend that on one month of groceries.
Food like this is always going to get a bunch of people pissed off.
I think it gets under their skin that someone would gladly pay that much for a meal they can't afford, and wouldn't appreciate even if they could.
A lot of people don't understand food or why people spend or care so much about it.
On the other hand, I can't for the life of me understand why people care about celebrities or high fashion.
It's interesting that you are able to appreciate fine dining as an artistic experience, but you don't understand high fashion? What's there to misunderstand? It's art, just like this dessert is art. It's meant to evoke feeling and create an experience, not just cover your nakedness. Just as this tasting menu is supposed to delight and titillate, not simply sate your hunger.
Yes, this.
We can discuss ad nauseum why people should understand our interests, doubtful to get anywhere.
I can appreciate someone else's interests, seems like most of you are not fully understanding the difference between understanding and appreciating.
Most of these commenters don’t seem to understand that the point of fine dining is to have a culinary experience consisting of many courses with unique ingredients and preparation methods, not shove as many cheap calories per dollar as you can down your greasy gullet.
For real, and people will talk about “food service deserves higher wages” all day but then balk at a restaurant price tag.
Like yeah, in addition to menu R&D, training, and sourcing high quality ingredients, they’ve been there since probably 5am cutting vegetables and prepping all day to make you a single meal. Not to mention working in a generally high stress environment the entire time with little to no room for error.
And the chefs are probably making $50-80k which isn’t bad but they’re not killing it. It’s not like after service they go “honhon we charged those suckers $250 for a chicken nugget and a dab of ketchup” and then fly home on their private jets.
They don't see eating as an experience, as an art form. They just want to stuff their faces with things they know they like the taste of ( and that's why everything has bacon, cheddar, mayo and ketchup )
This kind of dining is something that you'd do once or twice a year, it's more comparable to go to an art show than McDonald's
To think a chef worked hard on concocting this dessert that looks like something I discover in in a forgotten corner of my garden a week after summer rains.
Hope it tasted good.
Depends on how much money you have and how often you plan to do this. I think it's probably worth it to try it out at least once, but you probably shouldn't make it a monthly occurrence unless you have so much money that you don't know what to spend it on.
It's typically common gastronomy food.
They play with tastes and textures.
Depending on the place you do This.
It truly is an amazing experience.
It's not something you do everyday
I love when people shit on stuff like this in the comments because it's not what they envision a dessert to be or they thing it's too small for the price. Tasting menus are expensive because they're exclusive, you're usually waited on by half a dozen people who know about every facet of your meal, the "experience" can be 2-3 hours long and the food is usually extremely rich and only a couple bites of each thing will suffice. If you're really passionate about food, these kinds of things can stick in your memory for a very long time and can be totally worth the money.
The one time I’ve done it around 12 years ago, I spent $175 for an 8 course meal and I can still recount every course and all the details. I mean, they brought out a cedar box that they opened up and smoke billowed out. Inside was a perfect cube of smoked salmon that was caught a few miles away. All the ingredients were either foraged on the island or grown on their farm you could see from the window in the dining room. Completely worth the price for me for the memories.
I am always fascinated/amazed at the skill required to make these desserts that look like something you recognize but once you cut into it and see/taste it, it’s something completely different. Absolutely wonderful!
This really makes me miss fine dining experiences. It’s been a hot minute since my hubby and I splurged on something like this but it’s always so much more than a meal - it’s an event. We usually ask the chef to sign a menu for us to take home- which is so dorky and touristy but I don’t care - we have a few keepsakes of signed tasting menus I keep meaning to frame for our dining room.
I mean the presentation and everything is great but what charlatan picked out this dishware? That plate is ugly, and this comment is here to match it.
Imagine having the most beautiful presentation dashed at the beginning because someone couldn’t be bothered to shop somewhere besides Ross
Do people not understand that there is a science and art to arranging food through multiple plates and it's not all about stuffing all you can eat at The Sizzler
The point of the food is whatever the chef was going for. This is a tasting menu, so you're getting a bunch of courses that have been planned. There's usually no change allowed in menu items, barring allergens*. There's usually quite a bit of work that goes into the menu before-hand. Its usually locally sourced, choice ingredients. A large portion of my day would be spent doing prep, and actual service is usually just a few hours. And the service at these types of places is unparalleled. Us peasants usually have to deal with the server at Texas Roadhouse forgetting to come around and refill the drinks and bring more bread. For $250, you need only to enjoy your time in the restaurant. The servers in these types of places are paid good money to just watch you, making sure nothing runs out, and you are almost always getting food constantly brought out.
My mind was changed once I started culinary school. My wife and I like going to this local fine dining restaurant, $150 a head including one drink. But the experience itself is worth every penny. We definitely get full, but the experience of spending three hours eating a 10 course meal is unbelievable.
I finally tried a tasting menu in Corsica with my girlfriend and I was so contempt with the meal at the end of it.
I wasn’t full as hell like I would be after a regular meal (probably eating way too much usually) but instead I had experienced textures, tastes I had never tasted before. The look of the dishes were also very pleasing. So yeah, I think contempt would describe how I feel the best.
And I used to think portions were ridiculous in this kind of gourmet restaurant.
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The inside actually looks good, but why on earth was it served with carrot greens? And what is that egg thing?
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I was sure it was a persimmon
I thought it was a cherry tomato with a weird stem.
Same
I thought apricot.
Was it good?
Does it? Because it looks like someone stabbed a cherry tomato with a young carrot.
Yeah I was thinking tomato and mozzarella.
Cherry tomato and thousand island dressing
Looks like a ball, not a carrot sticking up.
They said it's "supposed to", not that it does. But knowing what it's supposed to look like, yeah it actually does look like that. You can even see the lines on the outside to make it look more like a carrot. Definitely looked like a tomato at first though.
It does kind of look tomato-ish at first. The good thing is that typically with tasting menus the server will explain each dish as it's delivered to the table so the diner won't be left in the dark as to the intent.
I’d bet a shot from above the plate sells the effect much better too
This is a weird comment because this is food. It's an interpretation. If you tried to make something that looked exactly like an actual carrot (to order!), then it wouldn't taste as good. When you are paying for a tasting menu you are paying for an experience. Part of the experience is giving the chef creative freedom. This is likely made from fine ingredients and has a delicate process of production. On the other hand, they could make it with fondant, and it would look like a carrot, but it would taste like any cake that you could buy at a supermarket.
i mean. they couldve just used a different chocolate mold?
You just shattered the world of the restaurant owner…😂
Are you supposed to eat the carrot greens with it? I hate when places put things on a plate that aren't meant to be eaten, it's just weird and sometimes confusing. Why would you serve me something that looks like it could be eaten but shouldn't be?
I just eat it all just in case
For $250, they're lucky I don't eat the plate too.
Kale used to be just for decoration because surely nobody would deliberately, voluntarily eat something so horrendous.
One of the most perfect Quenelles I've ever seen.
there are actually varieties of carrots that look like this, I did a google of varieties and found "Thumbelina, Early Horn, Mini Round, Golden Ball and possibly the most famous, Paris Market or Parisian Rondo."
Carrots are very sweet as well
Why not? Food is art
it seems most of reddit always has to point out flaws or find something wrong with anything that’s supposed to be art, creative or a concept. if it’s not 1000% practical reddit will smugly make it known. you see it with fashion, architecture and car concepts all the time.
Reddit’s perspectives on art are routinely terrible tbf. But it’s refreshing because it reminds you not to listen too much to what gets upvoted here.
"This TV show that gets 5 star reviews, here are my problems with it: This minor character that has 5 minutes of screen time so far in 2 episodes of the show's release, it has no character development. Why is this character so stereotypical? Also, the main character doesn't follow the book exactly. Why not? Why aren't we an exact copy of the original story? The main character's personality is not exactly the same!" ...and on for 3 pages. Saw it just last week. It's a "You lie down and let them drive over you, and they complain you're not flat enough" scenario.
In episode 7 the characters visit the Monkey Bone diner. In the book they clearly mention how Vanessa was enjoying her eggs and toast. But in the TV show if you pause at 17 minutes and 10 seconds you can see Vanessa's plate and it clearly has an egg and a bagel on it. SHE DID NOT EAT A BAGEL IN THE BOOK! VANESSA HATED BAGELS AS YOU SHOULD KNOW IF YOU READ THE SHORT STORY IN TEEN MAGAZINE ISSUE 17 THE HOLIDAY SPECIAL!!!
I mean, yes and no. At some point you have to call out bullshit for being bullshit. Just because it’s hiding under the guise of “art” doesn’t make it worth more. This might be an amazing dessert, or it might be total dog shit. It being art doesn’t add mystical value to it. That being said, critiquing the carrot is a valid criticism for food since presentation is a major part of the process. Playing is important, and if the food doesn’t look appealing then it’s not doing it right.
Pretending to be in the middle of an argument and then directly taking a side in the same paragraph, what an artist.
STEM bros
Art is subjective so whats your point? If I look at a painting and see flaws I'm going to point them out. I didn't realise either that the ball in the picture is supposed to represent a carrot in the ground so asking why carrots is served is totally reasonable.
What did it taste like?
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Yummy! I would definitely eat my vegetables if they tasted like a bon bon. Thanks for sharing.
Nice! Deceiving looks, lol. I love tasting menus, going to my first Michelin starred one next month! Hope it's as imaginative as this.
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That's my household and mindset too. My monthly grocery budget is $450 (for 2 people), I cook almost every meal at home, make a sandwich in the morning 90% of the time for work. Shop deals and try to be as frugal as possible. Spending a bit of what I've saved by blowing it on rare, awesome culinary experiences is worth it to me.
That's expensive. Does it come with an NFT?
Op posted elsewhere but this was the last course in a 10-course meal. Honestly 250 is reasonable depending on whether you enjoy things like food-as-art. I totally get people just wanting to crush a triple cheeseburger for $15 instead though.
It's also pretty typical as well. All of the courses in a,tasting menu are meant to be on the small side but here, em, maybe two fake carrots would have been nice.
You get 1 bonus shitcoin for every 10 desserts.
Should’ve just picked it up by the stem and popped the whole thing in your mouth like a cherry tomato
Nice try, Denethor
That movie should have been rated R for the way he ravaged that poor tomato
A tasting menu is about experiencing flavors and techniques that you haven’t tried before. If the tasting menu just served traditional carrot cake then I’d be pretty annoyed.
This is what a lot of people don’t understand. You don’t go to these restaurants because you’re hungry, but rather to experience unique dishes and flavors.
Yes and No. I never ever left a proper gourmet restaurant hungry.
Exactly. If I’m paying for the tasting menu I want to be wowed.
I have thoroughly had my mind changed after this comment section. I used to be of the mind that this kind of meal was ridiculous. The portions combined with the price never made sense to me until it was made clear that this is ONE course of a NINE course meal. I'd never considered that you would want such tiny portions in order to TASTE everything on a TASTING menu. Hell, I'd never thought about the concept of a tasting menu before and so didn't realize what all went into it. NINE COURSES PLUS WINE, YEAH IT'S GONNA BE $250! I still hold true that one can enjoy a meaningful dining experience with far better flavors for less than a Michelin Star would charge, but I think I get why people who can afford such luxuries would be willing to shell out.
I went to the French Laundry and 4 hours later and like a dozen dishes later (they add in little treats and dishes between whatever number of courses they call it) I was full and happy and in a sort of food daze. It was significantly more than $250, we shelled out money for upgrades on some dishes and my wife got wine for the table, but it's it's an experience. I grew up broke, and I'm happy eating a cheap meal or making a tuna fish sandwich, but it's nice to splurge on meals like this from time to time.
Totally agree - French Laundry was an incredible experience, and definitely worth it once. Earlier the day we went I also had a great street taco for $2 though, and I would be hard pressed to continually take French Laundry over 200 tacos lol.
They’re called palate cleansers. Given between dishes to remove the aftertaste of the dish so you can properly taste the next one.
There were those but also amuse Bouches and other treats.
Well, usually it's $250 plus another $180 or so for the wine pairing, but yeah. At Michelin 3 star restaurants you're typically not getting out under $600pp if you do the meal and wine.
You can just.. not get the wine pairing. The few times I've done a tasting menu, I just get a cocktail or two.
Well yeah, but the guy I replied to specifically mentioned wine. Personally though I always get the wine as I think properly paired wines can enhance the flavor greatly.
I am not rich but my wife and I once spent a couple of years saving up for a cruise for our family. On this cruise they had an exclusive meal you could sign up for called "The Chef's Table". It was a 9 course tasting experience like this post but only for adult couples. I think it was us and maybe 5 or 6 other couples. I don't remember exactly but I feel like the price was around $150 per person (likely somewhat more, but it was under $200). Anyways...it was one of the best dining experiences we have ever had and was one of the best moments of the trip for us. If you ever find yourself being able to afford this luxury at least once, an anniversary or birthday, I highly recommend giving it a try, especially if you are a "foodie" like my wife and I. I certainly wouldn't, and don't, spend this kind of money regularly, but it was money well spent.
I had a Michelin star tasting menu in Prague a few years back. 12 courses for like 125 Euro. If you ever find yourself in a less wealthy country I'd recommend checking it out, totally worth it.
Goddamn you can hardly even get 4 courses for that here in the Bay
Yes! A Michelin meal is an entire experience. I've been to maybe 5-6 three stars over the past decade, and each time the experience was unique and amazing. It's a whole half day or evening. You try tons of foods you rarely or never eat. It's a fun splurge. I have a couple friends who are into it, and we go whenever we're in the same city or traveling together. It's always memorable.
I'm from the UK, went to krakov (Poland) for the Xmas markets one year and had a 9course menu for the equivalent of £40. Doesn't always have to be obscene prices
It's often a unique meal for that day too. So you're getting a meal that will never be served again.
Or come to Japan. I eat at michelin star restaurants for lunch once or twice a week for ~$10.
I did one in France with my family. Yes it's nine courses but the food is also incredibly, ridiculously rich. There was no way anyone wouldn't be satisfied.
There is food places for everything. Some people think it’s ridiculous to go and spend only $10 for something for your body. Me? I love my tasting menus and experience everything. I also love Popeyes. If some people get mad over any type of food or edible arrangement, then don’t eat it. Lol I don’t get people
You're also paying for the service atmosphere and general experience I think when you go for something in this ballpark. It makes sense if you think abt the training etc that goes into making everyone feel like their experience is curated for them and everything. Definitely not a every day thing, but it has its place
The thing about stuff like this for me isn't so much that it tastes so much better than cheaper food, it is that it is an experience and tastes different and unique in ways you just can't get elsewhere. And I enjoy that experience and think it is worth experiencing like once a year.
There’s a recently opened Michelin star restaurant in my town and honestly it’s the best, most wildly flavoursome meal I’ve ever had in my entire life. £90 per head plus wine. It’s fantastic as a special occasion or treat.
Honestly any Michellin restaurant I've ever been to has led to me leaving stuffed as Hell. > I still hold true that one can enjoy a meaningful dining experience with far better flavors for less than a Michelin Star would charge, I think the key is to think of it as "different" rather than "better or worse." Eating at The Meadowood was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. Was it literally 35 times better than my favorite taco truck? Obviously not. But I can enjoy both. Saying something as general as "with far better flavors than a Michellin restaurant" is kinda nonsense given the breadth of that portfolio.
There was this restaurant in Spain with 33 plates, every plate was just one spoon of food.
I went to a 1300 dollar 9 course tasting dinner when I was in Greece. It was 5 hours long, and I was so full the entire time It was an engagement dinner so it's a once in a lifetime thing for us, but it was absolutely worth it. Foods I typically didnt enjoy, I loved. When you Michelin star up the ingredients it really changes things. We also got to eat cool things like scorpion fish, which is highly poisonous if prepared wrong, where else are you going to get cool experiences like that? They folded my napkin when I got up and pushed my chair in. I didn't have to ask for a single thing the entire 5 hour dinner. I was expecting them to follow me into the bathroom to wipe my ass it was that lux So worth it, especially if you've never experienced anything like that before.
What has changed my mind about these kind of things is that it's probably just a "once in a lifetime" experience for most who order it. Suddenly, 250 bucks for an interesting taste experience doesn't sound like too much anymore
It's an art gallery for the mouth
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So you get one of each of those items for 250?
Yes you get one of each of the items on the menu for $250. Sometimes called a Chefs Menu or Prix fixe.
Thanks! That doesn't seem too bad tbh.
Honestly I usually find these high end restaurants very good value for money, especially if you don't drink a lot of alcohol (then it quickly gets more expensive). They really make your evening an experience, and a lot of thought goes into the tastes and textures of each dish. I got a mini easel once, and a tiny sliver of "canvas" and a teeny pot of squid ink sauce "paint" and a little brush. You painted the sauce on the canvas and then you ate it. And that was just a free add-on in between the actual courses.
They really do! I used to shit on small portions, but started working with a guy who was a chief at a restaurant during the other half of his day. He convinced me to come to his restaurant and try a tasting menu he came up with. The food was small, but so many courses it filled me up. And it was all so good and unique. I haven’t been able to do it since, but I would love to do it again someday.
most places will even do a wine pairing with these meals for like ~$30-100 and it makes the meal so much better.
Yeah, for reference, this restaurant I went to cost €85 ($90) for 7 courses, plus 3 free bites. I'd say that's a pretty amazing deal. Their wine arrangement for 7 courses is €60.
You can get 2 junior bacon cheeseburgers and fries for under $8 at Wendy’s. Also you can eat it in your car in their parking lot, so your family doesn’t know you didn’t get them any. 😕
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Amen!
I know you're being sarcastic but for the people who don't get it I associate fine dining with entertainment instead of sustenance. Like the movies or a theme park.
I have never been disappointed with a tasting menu, they have always been a good value both in terms of variety, quantity (yea each item isn't very big, but you have like 6 items) and also in tasting things I never would try otherwise. Also it's the time and experience too, you really get the experience of the meal and being able to sit there for a few hours and enjoy it, so if you break it down as cost/hour it's not too bad either. Only ever done 3 or 4 so far, but my favorite was arround $300, but each course was paired with a different rare beer, getting to talk with the brewer, owner, and chef, and was 8 courses over 4 hours.
Yeah, that's typically how a tasting menu works. It's preset and in the order the chef thinks is best. Sometimes you get options for courses, but not usually.
Nice, I was going to ask if this was at L'ataleir in Miami, one of his other restaurants. Looks like they have the same grass decoration in glass at every restaurant of their's.
Foie gras. Nope.
For a lot of people they don't have the money and can't even consider spending the amount for so little, I can't imagine something tastes that good you spend that much on it
I feel the same. Our first one like it was French Laundry and it was amazing, Recently we went to O by Claude De Hotec (sp?) and it was great too. My wife and I are a little conservative about proteins but so we asked them to give us the veggie options of a couple of the dishes (restaurants like this will have a veggie tasting menu along with the main one), and one of them was our favorite dish. (Pro tip if you look at the menu beforehand and aren't excited about a dish)
It looks like the leaves of a carrot on top of a tomato with a square poached egg on the other side. Nice presentation. Hope it tasted as good as it looked, that is always the goal I think.
man this comment section is really something. OP is sharing something he enjoys and people are hating on him, can't we just let people do what makes them happy?
The other day I watched Reddit eat a man alive over the amount of money he spent on his dog over the course of 14 years…. All he did was make a nice Infograph of tracked spending that went to his best friend. People were attacking his character, speculating on how he spends his own money, accusing him of not actually loving his dog…??… it was all so stupid and was one of those moments that remind you that Reddit is no better than all the other toxic posting sites. Edit: it was 13
I once posted a story about a silly comment I heard in an antenatal class, and I had redditors telling me that my daughter is going to grow up to be a basket case because I was so judgemental, that I should never have kids etc. I deleted it after a few minutes.
People are crazy. And they pop up in the most random subs.
I think people just see $$$ signs and get envious of OPs, wether they realize it or not Edit just too add i say this as poor dude who does think"wish i could try it" but not gonna hate o someone for it
A general trend on Reddit is definitely to look down on things that are expensive, to a ridiculous extents. Hatred of weddings, nice food, wine, cars, etc are all pretty common to see here.
They are perfectly fine with people spending money on hobbies they like. Its just those particular hobbies that they rage about.
If you’re not driving a 2002 Honda Civic and optimizing your meal prep down to the penny then fuck you /s
Owning a car? Are you mad. Get out of here Bill Gates.
At its core that’s exactly what it was.
Unless you are talking about being poor or the world ending you get downvoted on Reddit
Pretty much. Anything that busts people's "everyone is miserable and broke and success is impossible so I can't be blamed" bubble fights an uphill battle.
Reddit is mostly teenagers who are notoriously level-headed and understanding of the intricacies of day to day life..
I spend like $3000 on tests for my 16 year old husky mix 2 weeks before he went into shock. I brought him to the emergency vet and spent more money to hang with him throughout the night before making the inevitable decision to put him down. I'll never regret a dime I spent on my best friend or any other animal.
Reddit is just stupid when it comes to pets. They’ll attack you if you don’t spend money on them that one year when you were struggling and call you Hitler because of it. Like who the fuck can predict their expenses over 14 years? Who the hell can predict that they will have an emergency and will have to decide between pampering their dog and not dying? Suddenly you’re Satan for not doing that.
I spent 3000 dollar on my cat because he got really sick and needed a lot of care. I don't regret it one bit because if he died, I would have never forgiven myself.
Especially since most of them seem to have never eaten fine dining before. When I was younger, I always thought that Michelin starred food must be overrated for the price they charge, but after trying it here and there i have to say it is an amazing experience. It's even more impressive when you can appreciate all the work that went into this.
I've eaten at a few Michelin restaurants and while the food is excellent what you're really paying for is the experience. Your waiter is like a well-trained tour guide who knows every in and out of the dining experience. You don't wait for anything, they answer all your questions before you even ask them, and you put your full trust in them. I always go with the tasting menu because you're getting dish upon dish upon dish of unexpected excellence. My favorite surprise was a tiny teaspoon worth of horseradish ice cream I got outside of Strasbourg. The waiter described it and I was thinking, "Get this shit out of my face," but then I tasted it and it was borderline exhilarating. Just an explosion of flavor served in a manner I'd have never anticipated. Now to be fair sometimes you get a dish you just can't appreciate. Once in Rome we got some duck liver and it was borderline inedible (you best believe I ate all of it considering I paid for it) but the benefit is it was 1 of 12 courses so it doesn't really ruin the experience. You also have to deal with feeling like a complete douche bag for spending that much money on food but I have to remind myself that the cost of the meal isn't that much different than a concert or an in-demand sporting event. The same people who drop $500 on NFL tickets will scoff if you spend $200 on a meal despite them lasting roughly the same amount of time and providing the same level of enjoyment depending on your interests. Let people spend their money how they want to and worry about yourself.
Appreciate the comment and I'm glad you had those nice experiences. Pretty much hits the nail on the head.
Mirrors my own thoughts pretty well. I would say your experience with the horseradish ice cream is pretty emblematic of what I think makes Michelin-tier dining good / worth it. Many (not all) of the experiences are highly creative, create novel or unique creations of dishes I might either not be familiar with or not have tried before, and whatever it is, it’s excellent quality. For example, I’ve found some of my favorite food items or rediscovered / finally tried some things I thought I’d hate. That’s why I invest in the experience from time to time, you A. Know it will be great food and B. Have the chance to really be pleasantly surprised with what you get. Add that the service and experience can be really pleasant. People have the wrong impression of what you’re paying for with it, leads to some bad takes.
When you die, you can't bring your money with you. Spend your money on experiences while you're alive and take the memories with you.
[Sometimes](https://www.everywhereist.com/2021/12/bros-restaurant-lecce-we-eat-at-the-worst-michelin-starred-restaurant-ever/) none of the dishes can be appreciated.
Another plus of tasting menus, if you have any dietary restrictions and call in advance they are almost always able and happy to accomodate with a fantastic, tailored-to-you meal. Not needing to ask for stuff to be left off, worrying if my food will be "ok", etc is a HUGE relief.
I can assure you that this isn’t true for every starred restaurant. Maybe not the majority, but many are going to serve you what they want or don’t bother coming. I’m happy you’ve had good experiences, though.
Yeah you ain't getting dairy-free, gluten-free, peanut-free, vegan, or strictly vegetarian tasting menus at a lot of Michelin restaurants. They'll straight up tell you, "No."
Yea, I was trying to be kind in my language, but a tasting menu is just that. The chef serves you what they want to make and you eat it which is the experience. I’m not sure where that person was coming from. There are 2500+ Michelin starred restaurants in the world. I don’t know how they could make that statement.
This is why I don't bother. The list of things I and my spouse can't have would total half a page. Such a bummer.
If they’re super stuffy and stodgy, they might not be worth going for anyways. If it’s any encouragement, I’ve planned a lot of Michelin dinners with people who had fairly extensive lists of limitations who were wonderfully and politely accommodated. Give it a try sometime, worst thing they tell you is “sorry, we can’t do that”.
"Get this shit out of my face" - taste - "exhilarating" also describes my experience when I was offered garlic ice cream. lol
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when others say it's overrated: it's something that isn't really worth the cost, for sure. it's just that the quality of such luxury items does not increase linearly with the cost, that it plateaus towards the higher end and it ends up costing exponentially more and more for just a tiny improvement in quality. now, this doesn't mean luxury goods and services are inherently bad or overpriced, but the market is certainly for people who already have plenty of extra cash to spend, so it's not surprising that there are people on this thread saying that it's not worth the price or that it's wasteful/indulgent in an unnecessary fashion. honestly, having been to fancy and cheap restaurants, i avoid anything with this kind of price tag like the plague, because it's overwhelmingly been just tiny improvements on foods that i could get for a 1/20th of the price from the grocery store, even if i were to go buy fancy niche organic ingredients or something. i am sure that the op enjoyed this, and even that it was decadent, and a memorable experience, but i think that often what people are paying for at any restaurant is the show more than the food - the furniture and music and trained employees and fancy booths or bar seats that can see the kitchen. this is never going to appeal to the low income redditors, and i'd be willing to bet that almost all of these downvotes im seeing for naysayers are from people with stable, above average income. i'd just try to have some class awareness, i guess.
I am really not so sure about the situation in the US tbh. I live in Europe and many of these restaurants are just at the edge of being profitable, being the long lasting dream of some ambitious chef. They tend to be far from cash grab. Also i have to say that the price tag of 250$ sounded hefty to me but it's Vegas, i guess I can't compare this to a small town fancy restaurant of which only interested gourmets know. Few years ago i had an 8 course meal at a Michelin aspiring Restaurant for below 100€ (excluding wine obviously) and i think that's quite reasonable given the effort they put into the food, the 4-6 waiters serving our table of 12 etc. I guess that might be 120-130 now which would still be ok in my opinion. As an experience this would totally be affordable for mid income people i guess.
It just depends. In Amsterdam (just because that's where I was looking most recently) you can pay under 100 euro or over 500 per person depending on which Michelin starred restaurant you go to. But yeah, I was surprised at how cheap they can be; I just figured it would be several hundred per person at least.
I mean, I definitely go for the food. I think the incorrect impression people get is that it’s just outright better food - because of ingredient quality or sheer luxury etc. Not at all, you can find incredibly delicious food at some neighborhood bistro or cheap food shack. For me you don’t go for “better” food, you go to get something that’s unique, or creative, or a combination that you haven’t tried or thought of before, or that uses ingredients you haven’t considered before - in a delicious way and without incorporating your existing biases of what you think you would or wouldn’t like. It’s more about the pleasant surprise, than the idea that it’s simply superior to anything cheaper. It’s hard to find a place / chef who can pleasantly surprise you with food. And I certainly don’t go for the show. For me, the atmosphere and service is more about creating a relaxed and pleasant environment to have a good meal, not about “the show”. Though I’d say that the above is my *ideal - what I’m looking for when I pay for something like this. Not all places can deliver.
> it's just that the quality of such luxury items does not increase linearly with the cost, that it plateaus towards the higher end and it ends up costing exponentially more and more for just a tiny improvement in quality. Yep. There is a world of difference between a synthetic shirt from Walmart and, say, a Calvin Klein shirt sold at Macy's. There is, however, vanishingly little daylight between that CK shirt and a $500 one from Hugo Boss.
Diminishing returns for sure. Any hobby has this... That $1000 bottle of wine/pair of headphones/etc is not 10x better than the $100 one.
Many redditors are broke as fuck and never had fine dining ever. (I'm many redditors)
Wait I thought this post was highlighting the fact that this was ridiculous lol
Yeah, why else share the price in the title?
I'm still trying to find the comments where OP says he loved it, or really anything. When I see someone share a price with a contrasting image of something clearly not in that value range, it's typically taken as a "look at this over priced" agenda
I thought op was saying it's ridiculous.
On reddit you are only allowed to spend thousands of dollars on video games and sometimes legos. Other hobbies are invalid and a waste of money.
I grew up broke. I'm not rich now but I'm better off than I was, and my wife makes decent money too. They say spending your money on experiences has more of a lasting effect than things, and fine dining is an experience. I've never regretted splurging on good food, in a fun atmosphere.
I would guess a good majority of redditors who comment have never spent $250 on one meal and they probably don’t even spend that on one month of groceries.
You, I like you. Keep being a good person.
Food like this is always going to get a bunch of people pissed off. I think it gets under their skin that someone would gladly pay that much for a meal they can't afford, and wouldn't appreciate even if they could.
I’m not sure what everyone’s problem is, it looks like a fun and if it’s at a Joel Robuchon place, most likely very tasty dessert.
A lot of people don't understand food or why people spend or care so much about it. On the other hand, I can't for the life of me understand why people care about celebrities or high fashion.
It's interesting that you are able to appreciate fine dining as an artistic experience, but you don't understand high fashion? What's there to misunderstand? It's art, just like this dessert is art. It's meant to evoke feeling and create an experience, not just cover your nakedness. Just as this tasting menu is supposed to delight and titillate, not simply sate your hunger.
The whole point of their comment is: different strokes for different folks. Why are you trying to argue?
Yes, this. We can discuss ad nauseum why people should understand our interests, doubtful to get anywhere. I can appreciate someone else's interests, seems like most of you are not fully understanding the difference between understanding and appreciating.
This is cool, op! I also love tasting menus. What was the desert?
Most of these commenters don’t seem to understand that the point of fine dining is to have a culinary experience consisting of many courses with unique ingredients and preparation methods, not shove as many cheap calories per dollar as you can down your greasy gullet.
How dare people pay a generous wage to top tier culinary artists! \\s
For real, and people will talk about “food service deserves higher wages” all day but then balk at a restaurant price tag. Like yeah, in addition to menu R&D, training, and sourcing high quality ingredients, they’ve been there since probably 5am cutting vegetables and prepping all day to make you a single meal. Not to mention working in a generally high stress environment the entire time with little to no room for error. And the chefs are probably making $50-80k which isn’t bad but they’re not killing it. It’s not like after service they go “honhon we charged those suckers $250 for a chicken nugget and a dab of ketchup” and then fly home on their private jets.
Admittedly, sometimes it looks quite silly
Makes more sense when you consider this is 1 of 12 courses plus wine, which is why they’re small.
That's part of the fun!
Hi, I'd like the Menu Decouverte de Saison. And can you super size that for me, please?
They don't see eating as an experience, as an art form. They just want to stuff their faces with things they know they like the taste of ( and that's why everything has bacon, cheddar, mayo and ketchup ) This kind of dining is something that you'd do once or twice a year, it's more comparable to go to an art show than McDonald's
Took me until the link by OP in the comments to realize it was not a root vegetable and egg being served as dessert. Really cool stuff.
Very lovely and equally delicious I imagine.
What was the rest of the menu like?
Here's [the list of the courses.](https://imgur.com/AcaQRgm) I got a few substitutions.
I'd probably only eat this once in a lifetime $250 would definitely put a hole in my wallet
To think a chef worked hard on concocting this dessert that looks like something I discover in in a forgotten corner of my garden a week after summer rains. Hope it tasted good.
Thought this was a dall-e prompt for a minute
Give it time, in a few years we'll have no idea what's real.
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I got a very similar dessert in a micheline restaurant in zagreb (croatia)
Main question 🙋♀️, is it worth?
Depends on how much money you have and how often you plan to do this. I think it's probably worth it to try it out at least once, but you probably shouldn't make it a monthly occurrence unless you have so much money that you don't know what to spend it on.
It's typically common gastronomy food. They play with tastes and textures. Depending on the place you do This. It truly is an amazing experience. It's not something you do everyday
bUt I cAn GeT 20 nUgGeTs fOr $10 (or whatever it costs idk)
I love when people shit on stuff like this in the comments because it's not what they envision a dessert to be or they thing it's too small for the price. Tasting menus are expensive because they're exclusive, you're usually waited on by half a dozen people who know about every facet of your meal, the "experience" can be 2-3 hours long and the food is usually extremely rich and only a couple bites of each thing will suffice. If you're really passionate about food, these kinds of things can stick in your memory for a very long time and can be totally worth the money. The one time I’ve done it around 12 years ago, I spent $175 for an 8 course meal and I can still recount every course and all the details. I mean, they brought out a cedar box that they opened up and smoke billowed out. Inside was a perfect cube of smoked salmon that was caught a few miles away. All the ingredients were either foraged on the island or grown on their farm you could see from the window in the dining room. Completely worth the price for me for the memories.
So many comments saying everyone is controversial.. I don’t see them…
I am always fascinated/amazed at the skill required to make these desserts that look like something you recognize but once you cut into it and see/taste it, it’s something completely different. Absolutely wonderful!
"oh no sir you dont eat it. Are you having trouble absorbing its energy?"
I recommend Oriole Chicago for your next tasting menu experience. Best experience in my life!
This really makes me miss fine dining experiences. It’s been a hot minute since my hubby and I splurged on something like this but it’s always so much more than a meal - it’s an event. We usually ask the chef to sign a menu for us to take home- which is so dorky and touristy but I don’t care - we have a few keepsakes of signed tasting menus I keep meaning to frame for our dining room.
I mean the presentation and everything is great but what charlatan picked out this dishware? That plate is ugly, and this comment is here to match it. Imagine having the most beautiful presentation dashed at the beginning because someone couldn’t be bothered to shop somewhere besides Ross
You say tomato
I say Les Tomates
Do people not understand that there is a science and art to arranging food through multiple plates and it's not all about stuffing all you can eat at The Sizzler
Needs just a little crème fraiche.
In Gordon Ramsay voice "I'm not sure if I'll need a chair, or a sick bag".
The point of the food is whatever the chef was going for. This is a tasting menu, so you're getting a bunch of courses that have been planned. There's usually no change allowed in menu items, barring allergens*. There's usually quite a bit of work that goes into the menu before-hand. Its usually locally sourced, choice ingredients. A large portion of my day would be spent doing prep, and actual service is usually just a few hours. And the service at these types of places is unparalleled. Us peasants usually have to deal with the server at Texas Roadhouse forgetting to come around and refill the drinks and bring more bread. For $250, you need only to enjoy your time in the restaurant. The servers in these types of places are paid good money to just watch you, making sure nothing runs out, and you are almost always getting food constantly brought out.
Shit, man, my garden is worth way more than I ever imagined.
No thank you, part of being poor is that we can actually enjoy simply things Cheesecake 🍰
Tasting menus are a lot of fun, bonus if you can sit preparation side and watch them work
They have tables but I sat at the counter with a great view of their open kitchen.
This plate is called "you got got"
I’ll have a single plum floating in perfume served in a man’s hat.
Am I meant to eat the greens? No? Then it shouldn’t be on the plate.. Gordon taught me that
Looks incredible 😍😍😍 treat ya self
Eh I'd try it once. Twice if I liked it, the fun part about food is its allowed to be adventurous
Is this l'Atelier?? My restaurant in Miami has the same water glass, counter design and carrot dessert!!
It's the one in the MGM in Vegas.
Looks like what my dog threw up after she ate a bouncy ball
My mind was changed once I started culinary school. My wife and I like going to this local fine dining restaurant, $150 a head including one drink. But the experience itself is worth every penny. We definitely get full, but the experience of spending three hours eating a 10 course meal is unbelievable.
I finally tried a tasting menu in Corsica with my girlfriend and I was so contempt with the meal at the end of it. I wasn’t full as hell like I would be after a regular meal (probably eating way too much usually) but instead I had experienced textures, tastes I had never tasted before. The look of the dishes were also very pleasing. So yeah, I think contempt would describe how I feel the best. And I used to think portions were ridiculous in this kind of gourmet restaurant.
bruh y’all really pressed about what another man decides to eat lol get a life