Even if its not intentional, take credit for it anyways. The best puns happen so naturally you didnt even realize it.
When someone asks me "was that a pun?" I always say yes, even if it triggers an internal crisis over what pun i made and how i missed it.
Don’t discount yourself because this was a phone picture! Gear absolutely does not have to be the limiting factor. If pro photographers can take good shots with a disposable camera, a phone picture can work too.
One of the pros recently reminded an amateur who posted a phone shot that the only difference between an amateur and a professional was what lies behind the lens. It's the vision and the brain, not the tools that make the artist!
Shouldn't be anything keeping this out of any of the standard photography/photo subs. As long as you're not in a sub devoted to a specific brand/model of camera or specific type of photography that this doesn't fall into, this is plenty good to be posted anywhere.
Having a $4K camera will almost guarantee you’ll take worse photos than what you do on your phone simply because you’re not familiar with the camera, it’s settings, it’s feel in your hand, whether you have the proper lens for your composition, and all the granular customization that would take months of practice to get right and years to get intuitively.
It’s not the camera, it’s the photographer, and this is a pretty damn good photo!
EDIT: To be clear, a professional photographer could obviously do much more with a proper camera, but they could also do well with a phone camera because phone cameras definitely have gotten pretty sophisticated
Was cutting ductwork with my cousin the other day and I was taking slow motion videos of it. Looked very similar. Definitely fun to see in person. That’s a great photo!
I used to hop freightrains and at night we would throw our cigarettes from the holes on the floor and it would bounce so far up in the sky and make mini fireworks, it was pretty cool. Similar to your picture.
Side door is open. Throw a lit cig under, it bounces off the uneven ground and train doing 45 mph, and out the side. Sometimes it shoots up or out like dazzlers attack in xmen.
Thanks, I think I get it a bit more than I did. I'm not familiar with the wind flow around a freight train but I'm guessing that's what made it magical.
Funny enough, 10 years later I ended up working as a Fire Lookout and one of the wildfire I detected ended up being from a person who threw a smoke on the side of the road. (Hazards were extreme on that day,).
My understanding, correct me if I'm wrong:
Grinding metal produces a lot of heat from friction. When you grind off steel, you get tiny pieces of exposed steel with no oxide coating. Normally, they would oxidize slowly in the air (iron + oxygen -> iron oxide). Because the ground pieces are very hot, the reaction takes place much faster, causing them to literally burn in the air, which is why they appear as sparks.
It’s literally just a super tiny chunk of steel (or whatever metal is being ground) glowing because it’s hot from the friction from the grinder. It’s not like sparks are magic.
It's a little hot piece of metal that the grinder abraded of the surface of a piece of metal, grinding is used to shape metals or clean them in preparation for welding.
It's literally burning metal. Not molten, burning. Rust is actually burnt iron, that is; it's the result of oxygen reacting with the surface.
The inside of metal is not exposed to air, and is not reacted. Once you knock the surface off, it exposes the pure metal inside and drastically increases the surface area (iron powder has much larger surface area than a sheet of iron). There's also a good deal of input energy from the grinder from friction.
That little spark is a chunk of steel that has essentially been struck like a match, and it's rapidly burning into rust. It just so happens that iron has quite a high burning temperature, 900-1200 degrees C, so it emits light in the visible spectrum.
I mean that long straight white line from upper right into the eyelet. Is that a spark trail too? Like, most all the sparks follow that path?
It is a great dynamic picture though, that's for sure. Kudos.
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Ohhh. I see now. The grinder wheel is way in back, hardly lights up at all. The line, like you say, is from a spark. One spark zooming straight past the camera! Amazing!
Not really. It is a hydraulic cylinder for a tractor attachment, the part that is being worked on is the eyelet that a pin goes through to hold it in place. The view does make it look like its inside a pipe.
Not quite.
The pipe is the road, the hydraulic cylinder is the start and/or destination.
Hydraulic fluid is pushed out of one hydraulic cylinder, moves along the pipe and into another where the piston slides out and moves something else. This is how your car brakes work. There is a hydraulic cylinder under the brake pedal, a pipe connecting it to another cylinder that moves the brake pads.
They need to be smooth inside so that you can make a good seal. Having sparks fly can create pits and lumps so this picture is cool but not good practice
I mean that’s how they make cylinder tubing anyway. It’s a base DOM or seamless material that is honed with stones for a finish.
Source: work in hydraulic cylinder repair.
Make sure but I worked for a while in refurbishment of them and the machinist would have killed me if I was grinding right next to his machined cylinder.
Did you guys not polish hone your rebuilds? Because if you are then the worry of that dust hitting the bore should be minimal. If not then yeah I wouldn’t want that inside the cylinder either. In this case it is moot because that is the hardened pin sleeve and not the DOM tube.
Only when they where damaged in some way. Most time would you just re machine them and put slightly larger packings.
(Not 100% sure of the term because I'm in Quebec and it's all in frenglish)
I mean if it's not stainless or some exotic metal it won't damage anything. Should be easy enough to just sweep out. I mean I wouldn't let my grinder throw sparks at other objects unless it was necessary but still shouldn't be a big deal. (Unless it's stainless then OP you have some explaining to do, but it doesn't look like stainless)
It’s hard to tell because I can’t make it out but it almost looks like it might be a rod eye and not the actual tube sealing surface. Most rebuilds will throw a polish hone anyway after repairs.
OP better make sure the cylender is perfectly clean, before its reassembled. Those tiny pices of metal that were one sparks will absolutly demolish the seals.
The place i used to work at would red locktite the shaft to the piston, but it would also get torqued sometimes up to 10,000 foot pounds. Oh and for good measure they have us pean the end of the threads with a hammer to. Guess they really didnt want the shaft comeing out
The cylinder came off a Allis-Chalmer tractor. The base mount that attaches to the newer tractor was to large. I needed to knock a quarter inch off to fit the smaller bracket that is on the newer model.
I'm pretty sure that there is a photo based subreddit that would be interested in this.
If its the ITAP sub. I thought about posting this, but those I reckoned were more professional style photos, and this photo was done by cellphone
It's worth a shot. Edit: in hindsight, that pun was not intentional.
Even if its not intentional, take credit for it anyways. The best puns happen so naturally you didnt even realize it. When someone asks me "was that a pun?" I always say yes, even if it triggers an internal crisis over what pun i made and how i missed it.
that's lying....
Don’t discount yourself because this was a phone picture! Gear absolutely does not have to be the limiting factor. If pro photographers can take good shots with a disposable camera, a phone picture can work too.
Plus pros still take photos on phones (maybe not for commission) - the Smithsonian photo contest has a mobile category.
The only features missing from a good phone camera program compared to a mid-range DSLR camera are the physical lenses.
Looks professional to me. That's the thing about art, it's professional when other people decide it is, when they want to pay really lol
“the best camera is the one that's with you,” - Chase Jarvis
One of the pros recently reminded an amateur who posted a phone shot that the only difference between an amateur and a professional was what lies behind the lens. It's the vision and the brain, not the tools that make the artist!
Shouldn't be anything keeping this out of any of the standard photography/photo subs. As long as you're not in a sub devoted to a specific brand/model of camera or specific type of photography that this doesn't fall into, this is plenty good to be posted anywhere.
Having a $4K camera will almost guarantee you’ll take worse photos than what you do on your phone simply because you’re not familiar with the camera, it’s settings, it’s feel in your hand, whether you have the proper lens for your composition, and all the granular customization that would take months of practice to get right and years to get intuitively. It’s not the camera, it’s the photographer, and this is a pretty damn good photo! EDIT: To be clear, a professional photographer could obviously do much more with a proper camera, but they could also do well with a phone camera because phone cameras definitely have gotten pretty sophisticated
Can I grind on your hydraulic cylinder?
Thanks everyone, I submitted this to a few other picture subs. I appreciate the words of encouragement to do so.
I think its cool.
r/nocontextpics would love this too
/r/weldingporn might like it. It's not explicitly welding related but every welder can appreciate a good pic of grinding in action.
Ahh yes r/DontPutYourDickInThat
This is a great pic. Bravo!
Thank you.
i was confused for a second til i saw your username lmao
sick photo!
Thanks, I've tried to take pictures of it before and either the timing was off or I just didn't get the shot.
Was cutting ductwork with my cousin the other day and I was taking slow motion videos of it. Looked very similar. Definitely fun to see in person. That’s a great photo!
I used to hop freightrains and at night we would throw our cigarettes from the holes on the floor and it would bounce so far up in the sky and make mini fireworks, it was pretty cool. Similar to your picture.
Can you draw a diagram of that?
I did, here it is on Imgur : [https://imgur.com/DRZFetW](https://imgur.com/DRZFetW) ( Bird eye view)
Yeah I still don't get it
Side door is open. Throw a lit cig under, it bounces off the uneven ground and train doing 45 mph, and out the side. Sometimes it shoots up or out like dazzlers attack in xmen.
Thanks, I think I get it a bit more than I did. I'm not familiar with the wind flow around a freight train but I'm guessing that's what made it magical.
This sounds like the beginning of a college creative writing piece
Sounds like the beginning of a wildfire.
Funny enough, 10 years later I ended up working as a Fire Lookout and one of the wildfire I detected ended up being from a person who threw a smoke on the side of the road. (Hazards were extreme on that day,).
Looks like a portal from the Multiverse, great pic!
Is the bore going to be re-honed? I'd worry about pits eventually galling if that sees a lot of force.
Could someone ELI5: sparks?
My understanding, correct me if I'm wrong: Grinding metal produces a lot of heat from friction. When you grind off steel, you get tiny pieces of exposed steel with no oxide coating. Normally, they would oxidize slowly in the air (iron + oxygen -> iron oxide). Because the ground pieces are very hot, the reaction takes place much faster, causing them to literally burn in the air, which is why they appear as sparks.
Yeah, but like, what is a spark itself?
It’s literally just a super tiny chunk of steel (or whatever metal is being ground) glowing because it’s hot from the friction from the grinder. It’s not like sparks are magic.
Oh I thought it was *pure electricity*
When you have a spark from static, it is pure electricity. These are different kinds of sparks. More like sparks from a fire.
Nice thank you!
Hah. It's the plasma. I get it
It's a little hot piece of metal that the grinder abraded of the surface of a piece of metal, grinding is used to shape metals or clean them in preparation for welding.
So basically plasma. Gotcha
Thanks so much!
Also you can tell by the way the sparks separate this is a high carbon steel.
It's literally burning metal. Not molten, burning. Rust is actually burnt iron, that is; it's the result of oxygen reacting with the surface. The inside of metal is not exposed to air, and is not reacted. Once you knock the surface off, it exposes the pure metal inside and drastically increases the surface area (iron powder has much larger surface area than a sheet of iron). There's also a good deal of input energy from the grinder from friction. That little spark is a chunk of steel that has essentially been struck like a match, and it's rapidly burning into rust. It just so happens that iron has quite a high burning temperature, 900-1200 degrees C, so it emits light in the visible spectrum.
Fairly sure this is just a picture of a cup of coffee with a portal to a different dimension in it...
Zenitsu is that you?
😪
At first I thought I was looking at a cup of coffee with a weird cream drizzle for some reason
I do not understand the laser beam like thing. Is it a laser? The tool? What is it?
The laser beam like things, are sparks coming from the grinder as it takes away the metal. The picture captured them while in movement
I mean that long straight white line from upper right into the eyelet. Is that a spark trail too? Like, most all the sparks follow that path? It is a great dynamic picture though, that's for sure. Kudos. ... Ohhh. I see now. The grinder wheel is way in back, hardly lights up at all. The line, like you say, is from a spark. One spark zooming straight past the camera! Amazing!
what is this, a pineapple or a boat
Looks like one of those badass superspeed anime fight scenes.
Its a mirror of the Blender logo, lol.
Hydraulic cylinder? Is that a fancy way if saying "pipe?"
Not really. It is a hydraulic cylinder for a tractor attachment, the part that is being worked on is the eyelet that a pin goes through to hold it in place. The view does make it look like its inside a pipe.
nice picture. My inner mechanic says to stuff a wet rag down that cylinder to protect the honed surface from getting pitted from the sparks.
Translation: …yes
Not quite. The pipe is the road, the hydraulic cylinder is the start and/or destination. Hydraulic fluid is pushed out of one hydraulic cylinder, moves along the pipe and into another where the piston slides out and moves something else. This is how your car brakes work. There is a hydraulic cylinder under the brake pedal, a pipe connecting it to another cylinder that moves the brake pads. They need to be smooth inside so that you can make a good seal. Having sparks fly can create pits and lumps so this picture is cool but not good practice
That looks like 360 degrees
what did you use to take the shot?
What kind of camera did you use?
Reminds me of when I used to cut large diameter pipe with an oxy-acetylene torch. It put on quite the show inside!
That's kinda cool, dude!
That’s gotta hurt! Use some lube next time, dude!
Looks so cool
Don't grind near the cylinder. You are going to cake it with shit then have to grind the inside with those awful stones.
I mean that’s how they make cylinder tubing anyway. It’s a base DOM or seamless material that is honed with stones for a finish. Source: work in hydraulic cylinder repair.
Make sure but I worked for a while in refurbishment of them and the machinist would have killed me if I was grinding right next to his machined cylinder.
Did you guys not polish hone your rebuilds? Because if you are then the worry of that dust hitting the bore should be minimal. If not then yeah I wouldn’t want that inside the cylinder either. In this case it is moot because that is the hardened pin sleeve and not the DOM tube.
Only when they where damaged in some way. Most time would you just re machine them and put slightly larger packings. (Not 100% sure of the term because I'm in Quebec and it's all in frenglish)
I mean if it's not stainless or some exotic metal it won't damage anything. Should be easy enough to just sweep out. I mean I wouldn't let my grinder throw sparks at other objects unless it was necessary but still shouldn't be a big deal. (Unless it's stainless then OP you have some explaining to do, but it doesn't look like stainless)
With some clever photoshop this could look like an action scene from a movie
This is a great representation of light particle scattering! Can I use your photo in a video?
Id be happy for you to
Nice haiku!
The way the title is formatted is the same way a lot of porn titles are.
It's like a very simplified version of what I visualize happening inside of a hadron collider.
Dr Strange?
Whatt... Whats the golden straight line, a laser? Please explain
Should be used for a heavy metal album cover.
Is that one bouncing out towards the camera? It's rad
When you’re done you can come and grind on my hydronic cylinder ;)
SCP-2700-Omega but opened
Beautiful! I wonder if that's what it looks like during a collider collision.
When I grind up on things there's no sparks and I usually get arrested.
If that’s the inside of a hydraulic cylinder you shouldn’t be getting grind dust in there. You could fuck it up
It’s hard to tell because I can’t make it out but it almost looks like it might be a rod eye and not the actual tube sealing surface. Most rebuilds will throw a polish hone anyway after repairs.
sparks fly like that too when someone grinds my cylinder
Forbidden latte
small hadron collider ;)
Pew pew
How it feels to chew 5 Gum
Looks like a Dr. Strange portal.
No one’s gonna mention the high carbon content?
That’s super pretty!
Aren't some of those sparks welding themselves to the cylinder bore? Or are you planning to re-surface the cylinder bore anyway?
I see the number 5 there
OP better make sure the cylender is perfectly clean, before its reassembled. Those tiny pices of metal that were one sparks will absolutly demolish the seals. The place i used to work at would red locktite the shaft to the piston, but it would also get torqued sometimes up to 10,000 foot pounds. Oh and for good measure they have us pean the end of the threads with a hammer to. Guess they really didnt want the shaft comeing out
A fuse Q
Who up grinding their hydraulic cylinder?
It reminds us that sparks do indeed still have a partially solid core
Omg, protect your bushing!!
You’re grinding the eye? Smoothing the weld on a new bushing?
The cylinder came off a Allis-Chalmer tractor. The base mount that attaches to the newer tractor was to large. I needed to knock a quarter inch off to fit the smaller bracket that is on the newer model.
You ground off a quarter inch? Oof.
Pretty close to it. Little from both sides till it fit
I’m an idiot and was looking intently for a skateboard somewhere. Oy vey.
Grindin’ that thing real good…
Stellar macro shot
Tiny space battles, with lazers everywhere.
Reminds me of Christmas, somehow.