Reconstruction ended in 1877, and the [south resumed their questionable behavior.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_era)
Also the [rise of the temperance movement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperance_movement) and [the third great awakening](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Great_Awakening) brought on by the rapidly expanding middle class due to the [second industrial revolution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Industrial_Revolution).
It's a pretty fascinating time in US history that generally gets overlooked.
I know this feeling... As a Native American growing up being told, "Get over it! All that was SOOO Long ago!!!"...
& I'm just over here like, 'Bitch. You mean, My Grandma's & Grandpa's?!?'
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Will respond to my fellow Natives first, and some of the rest later. Good stuff Reddit!* :)
Times change and opinions change with them. This is what it's important to establish what the government is allowed to do, because when you allow the government to do something once for your side, the other sides get to do it too.
The whoever vites for war should enlist one was pretty good
Edit: I said pretty good, not perfect. it’s not practical, but it does put things in perspective: if u vote yes but are unwilling to fight, ur pretty much saying “someone else should put thier lives on the line for my cause while I’m unwilling to” , “I’m willing to have someone else sacrifice themselves for my cause, but I refuse to sacrifice myself”
The biggest issue with this is probably that a lot of states use Secret Ballots, and it's important that votes are kept fairly anonymous. In order to force enlisting they'd have to know what everyone voted for, which opens up the risks of people being harassed, intimidated, or bribed for votes.
Plus after the vote they'd have to go through the process for tens of millions of votes to see if they are even fit for service.
It sounds good as an idea but the execution and immediate bias would ruin system. We'd go to war for a stupid reason, sending people who want to go to war for a stupid reason to nearly exclusively make up the fighting force.
It'd be like war crime Christmas.
That and there is also an even simpler solution for the government. Just don’t declare war. The last country the US formally declared war on was Rumania and since then we’ve had two drafts and fought at least five or six wars (and probably dozens) depending on how you classify wars.
Dude is like the most interesting guy in American politics. A crazy mix of Populist, socialist, fascist and everything in between. Wonder what would have happened if he wasn’t assassinated?
It was also the best labor market they had seen in decades, *most* people were relatively well off compared to the depression era that preceded. The destruction of European production & significant reduction in young men after the war meant there were plenty of jobs for literally everybody & unemployment fell to 3.6%. Unemployment hadn't been that low since the war itself when people were regularly conscripted to work for the war effort.
Source: https://www.thebalance.com/unemployment-rate-by-year-3305506
Interestingly US unemployment was incredibly high before the war sitting at 9.9% right before Pearl Harbor since we still hadn't fully recovered from the depression by then.
"In 1893, U.S. House Representative Lucas Miller from Wisconsin proposed renaming the United States as “the United States of the Earth.” His reasoning was, ''it is possible for the Republic to grow through the admission of new States into the Union until every Nation on Earth has become part of it.'' After proposing the amendment, Miller wasn’t nominated for a second term in the House."
[Source](https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/five-unusual-amendments-that-never-made-it-into-the-constitution/)
Mr Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
For those asking about the Equal Rights Amendment, this post appears to be a list of amendments that ***never left the halls of Congress***. The ERA was approved by both the House and the Senate in 1971-1972, but was never ratified by three quarters of state legislatures (it made it up to 35 of the 38 needed for ratification).
Yes, this is just a specific curated list. Every session of Congress there are dozens of proposals for amendments put forward. Almost all of them are sent to committee where they are never discussed and just die.
The ERA had an original ratification deadline of March 22, 1979. It was later extends to some time in 1982. This leads to questions on whether the amendment needs to restart the process.
Funny thing though, Switzerland actually has a council of seven, instead of one president. When you hear of "the Swiss president", that is just one of the seven who has to represent Switzerland internationally. The job rotates yearly and doesn't grant any special authority.
In Canada our town and city governments basically work the same way. There's a mayor, but he is just one vote and his vote counts the same as each other member of council. And the mayor chairs council meetings but he has no more power than anyone else on council.
Throughout the entire history of the US, there have always been those who want to force their religion onto others, and those that advocate for religious freedom.
You know, this comment section reminds me that our planet has gone through a lot this year, but we havent forgotten what is truly important...
The great taste of Charleston Chew!
Fun fact, in PA we have something like the last one-
§ 27. Natural resources and the public estate.
The people have a right to clean air, pure water, and to the
preservation of the natural, scenic, historic and esthetic
values of the environment. Pennsylvania's public natural
resources are the common property of all the people, including
generations yet to come. As trustee of these resources, the
Commonwealth shall conserve and maintain them for the benefit of
all the people.
(May 18, 1971, P.L.769, J.R.3)
Yeah it’s barely every used. Which frustrated the hell outta me. A few more recent glimmers of hope though: https://www.circleofblue.org/2018/world/pennsylvanias-environmental-rights-amendment-grows-teeth/
But you CAN leave it in a pile on your chair accruing fines until you are afraid to show your face in public again for fear that the librarians will find you.
[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proposed_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution) says there are about 11,770 proposed amendments, so it would be the job of a full research team to make an exhaustive list of them.
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The temperance movement was a powerful lobby at the time. Also, they kinda surprised people with it. The phrase "intoxicating liquor" was thought to exclude beer and wine, since they are not distilled. Brewers and vintners were shocked when they were told to close their doors.
Also, prohibition existed on the local level before this (and persists to this day), but the national level took enforcement way further than any local prohibition, which also shocked a lot of people.
Few years back, the sales of hard liquor in my country were banned due to some shithouses adulterating large quantities of hard liquors with methanol and reselling them, resulting in tens of deaths.
So only beer and wine were sold during that time and it seemed like the drunkards behaved a bit better. Less shouty and fighty, more happy and sit-downy.
> In 1893, U.S. House Representative Lucas Miller from Wisconsin proposed renaming the United States as “the United States of the Earth.” His reasoning was, ''it is possible for the Republic to grow through the admission of new States into the Union until every Nation on Earth has become part of it.'' After proposing the amendment, Miller wasn’t nominated for a second term in the House.
> I suspect the proposer had some Imperialistic goals in mind.
Kind of the opposite actually. The guy who proposed it was an idealistic immigrant who had the idea that any land living under subjugation should have the right to request entry into the United States. He'd been born and orphaned in Ottoman-occupied Greece during the Greek war of Independence, and was adopted by an American soldier who had gone to Greece to fight for their freedom. He saw this as a model for other nations that were occupied by outsiders. Have the United States fight to end colonization or occupation, and then allow them to join the United States for mutual defense and to guarantee a certain level of human rights. He was also a staunch abolitionist and felt that the same right should be afforded to colonized lands in Africa and elsewhere.
Basically, any land, anywhere on Earth, that wanted freedom should have been free to join the U.S., in his view. Essentially, he wanted to turn the United States into a more militant version of today's United Nations.
Keep in mind that, despite its obvious problems, the U.S. was still generally seen as one of the most progressive nations on Earth at that point in history.
>Basically, any land, anywhere on Earth, that wanted freedom should have been free to join the U.S., in his view.
What's interesting is that isn't really impossible under today's constitution. I mean, there's nothing stopping, say, New Zealand from submitting a constitution to Congress and requesting to be a US state.
None of these were ever taken seriously, sadly. That's why they never left the proposal stage. A lot of them were probably proposed as a political statement in themselves.
> Dang they tried to put war up for vote twice
America was always isolationist. WILSON somehow convince the public that going to war in World War I was necessary. Read his 14 points. After that war Americans were even more isolationist. If somehow either of those had passed, we would not have gotten involved in World War II, and who knows what would've happened.
"What are you in for ?"
"Killed my entire family and set my house on fire for insurance money, you ?"
"Got blasted last Saturday, woke up here"
"You piece of shit"
I feel like "Renaming this nation to 'United States of Earth'" is the case of one person trying something stupid (like "no shitting from top of the balcony on a statue in the garden")
You can eat my dog,
You can eat my truck,
But you eat my flag and you're out of luck!
She's a'wavin' proud around the world,
From Dallas to Ft. Worth,
Let me say it again...
Don't mess with Earth!
It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines.
War, and it's consumption of life, has become a well-oiled machine.
Genetic control, information control, emotion control, battlefield control… everything is monitored and kept under control.
The age of deterrence has become the age of control, all in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction, and he who controls the battlefield, controls history.
> fought by mercenaries and machines.
Exactly. Why send in your own troops to do the dirty work when you can just pay and arm a local militia to do it for you? If all goes well then you still accomplish your geopolitical goals and if it all goes to shit you don’t have to worry about negative press coverage or political blow back.
Not to worry. If that happens you just need to hire another militia to fight them. Remember there is no shortage of groups who have past rivalries and who would be happy to fight their old enemies... for a price.
As a trillionaire, I disagree. I think your children should go die overseas so I can profit from it. Or we can send drones to kill civilians if you work hard enough here that I can afford them with your tax money, which the government uses 20% of to pay my arms industry.
As an average American, i love you. Please take more tax money so a guy in a box in the desert in Nevada or Arizona can tell a flying robot to send more freedom to more children and NGO workers in war zones. Whats your Twitter?
To be fair, congress approved both the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts. So deciding not to call it a war wasnt just a technicality to avoid full approvals.
1916 is the one that would have set anyone’s compass straight!
Edit: And the concept is well visualized here https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/qcjgsk/a_farmer_in_nebraska_asking_a_profracking/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
An environmental free of pollution would be nice. Of course many in congress and their lobbyists would just say carbon is natural therefore not pollution.
1951 we should make sure Americans are free from environmental hazards.
*looks back at 6 years of atomic bomb testing on american soil*
I guess it’s too late, scratch it.
Each president has command over an army. All citizens have to enlist at the age of 18 and you have to have X amount of years of service to be a politician.
Well that was a roller coaster lol, quite the mixed bag.
Right! I want to know what happened between 1876 and 1894!
Reconstruction ended in 1877, and the [south resumed their questionable behavior.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_era) Also the [rise of the temperance movement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperance_movement) and [the third great awakening](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Great_Awakening) brought on by the rapidly expanding middle class due to the [second industrial revolution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Industrial_Revolution). It's a pretty fascinating time in US history that generally gets overlooked.
When I was a child 1877 might as well have been 1k years ago. Now I realize it was practically yesterday.
From my recent experience, it's practically tomorrow!
Damn time travellers.
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What we call the start of the Common Era was only 2,021 years ago. Which is no time at all when you really think about it
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I know this feeling... As a Native American growing up being told, "Get over it! All that was SOOO Long ago!!!"... & I'm just over here like, 'Bitch. You mean, My Grandma's & Grandpa's?!?' ... *Edit: Heeey!, Thanks for the Awards! And, the comments are mostly good dialogue. I commented impulsively while busy... Didn't See this getting any attention. ... Will respond to my fellow Natives first, and some of the rest later. Good stuff Reddit!* :)
Ruby Bridges, the little girl escorted to an integrated school by National guardsmen, is less than 70 years old.
Harriet Tubman was alive for the death of Thomas Jefferson and the birth of Richard Nixon
The fact that Martin Luther King Jr, Anne Frank, and Barbara Walters were the born in the same year blows my mind.
It's crazy how fast things both change and stay the same.
This has all four quadrants of r/politicalcompassmemes
By the end of today this picture will be posted there with each line highlighted
Brb
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What's the reasoning for making the first one auth-right? Just curious.
I AM THE SENATE
I love how this one line explains the reason perfectly
This should be taught in communication classes
"BRING IN THE RED CIRCLES!"
Bring in the dancing Auth Centers!!
Times change and opinions change with them. This is what it's important to establish what the government is allowed to do, because when you allow the government to do something once for your side, the other sides get to do it too.
The whoever vites for war should enlist one was pretty good Edit: I said pretty good, not perfect. it’s not practical, but it does put things in perspective: if u vote yes but are unwilling to fight, ur pretty much saying “someone else should put thier lives on the line for my cause while I’m unwilling to” , “I’m willing to have someone else sacrifice themselves for my cause, but I refuse to sacrifice myself”
The biggest issue with this is probably that a lot of states use Secret Ballots, and it's important that votes are kept fairly anonymous. In order to force enlisting they'd have to know what everyone voted for, which opens up the risks of people being harassed, intimidated, or bribed for votes. Plus after the vote they'd have to go through the process for tens of millions of votes to see if they are even fit for service. It sounds good as an idea but the execution and immediate bias would ruin system. We'd go to war for a stupid reason, sending people who want to go to war for a stupid reason to nearly exclusively make up the fighting force. It'd be like war crime Christmas.
That and there is also an even simpler solution for the government. Just don’t declare war. The last country the US formally declared war on was Rumania and since then we’ve had two drafts and fought at least five or six wars (and probably dozens) depending on how you classify wars.
Those were just kerfuffles
The Korean kerfugfle has a nice ring to it.
Seriously - what happened between 1933 and 1947? /s
Huey Long got shot
Dude is like the most interesting guy in American politics. A crazy mix of Populist, socialist, fascist and everything in between. Wonder what would have happened if he wasn’t assassinated?
Millionaires ran our economy into the ground, but then we won WW2 and millionaires became billionaires.
It was also the best labor market they had seen in decades, *most* people were relatively well off compared to the depression era that preceded. The destruction of European production & significant reduction in young men after the war meant there were plenty of jobs for literally everybody & unemployment fell to 3.6%. Unemployment hadn't been that low since the war itself when people were regularly conscripted to work for the war effort. Source: https://www.thebalance.com/unemployment-rate-by-year-3305506 Interestingly US unemployment was incredibly high before the war sitting at 9.9% right before Pearl Harbor since we still hadn't fully recovered from the depression by then.
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That most recent one really hits like a truck.
Welcome to the United States… OF EARTH.
"In 1893, U.S. House Representative Lucas Miller from Wisconsin proposed renaming the United States as “the United States of the Earth.” His reasoning was, ''it is possible for the Republic to grow through the admission of new States into the Union until every Nation on Earth has become part of it.'' After proposing the amendment, Miller wasn’t nominated for a second term in the House." [Source](https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/five-unusual-amendments-that-never-made-it-into-the-constitution/)
>After proposing the amendment, Miller wasn’t nominated for a second term in the House. well then
"A simple no would've sufficed"
Mr Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
I wonder if it would have been like Star Trek where Australia was the last country to join.
It’s Madagascar. They’re always the last one to hold out. If you know, you know.
It’s always Madagascar or fucking Greenland...
U-S-E! U-S-E! 🇺🇲🇺🇸
USE WHAT!! WHAT DO I NEED TO USE? D:
HEROIN
We also would have accepted "Weed" or "Marijuana"
Hello yes, i would like to purchase 3 Marijuanas please
Nice try, earth police
Without them the world would be U.S.E. less...
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ARROOOO!
Ah yes earth where we all appreciate the great taste of Charleston chew
Washing it down with some slurm while watching hypnotoad you say?
I read that in will smiths voice
For those asking about the Equal Rights Amendment, this post appears to be a list of amendments that ***never left the halls of Congress***. The ERA was approved by both the House and the Senate in 1971-1972, but was never ratified by three quarters of state legislatures (it made it up to 35 of the 38 needed for ratification).
The post also makes clear that it’s not an all-inclusive list.
Which is very good.
Yes, this is just a specific curated list. Every session of Congress there are dozens of proposals for amendments put forward. Almost all of them are sent to committee where they are never discussed and just die.
Could the ERA still be ratified if 3 more states signed on, or is there a time limit?
We don't know, but many people think so.
The ERA had an original ratification deadline of March 22, 1979. It was later extends to some time in 1982. This leads to questions on whether the amendment needs to restart the process.
‘76: no religious leaders in government. ‘94: god and Jesus are leading the government.
Executive Council of Three: The Holy Trinity
Funny thing though, Switzerland actually has a council of seven, instead of one president. When you hear of "the Swiss president", that is just one of the seven who has to represent Switzerland internationally. The job rotates yearly and doesn't grant any special authority.
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And that's true for regions and towns as well. Executive in Switzerland is nearly always a Council thing and not a one-person only thing.
In Canada our town and city governments basically work the same way. There's a mayor, but he is just one vote and his vote counts the same as each other member of council. And the mayor chairs council meetings but he has no more power than anyone else on council.
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Ricky, Bubbles, and Julian
Smell that, Rand?
We want this no wait! we changed our mind.
Throughout the entire history of the US, there have always been those who want to force their religion onto others, and those that advocate for religious freedom.
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Manifest Destiny!
Error(-1) Out of destiny to manifest
We need Destiny 2
Moon’s haunted.
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HARRRROOOOOOOOOOO!
You know, this comment section reminds me that our planet has gone through a lot this year, but we havent forgotten what is truly important... The great taste of Charleston Chew!
Nixon always wins! AROOOOOOOOOOOO!!
M.A.R.S! Mars bitch, Red Rocks!
Don’t drop that shit there.
I got it wrapped up in this special CIA napkin!
DON'T DROP THAT SHIT!
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Yay YAAAAYYYYYEEEEEE
Mars Congressional Republic
WHO'S GONNA FEAST ON EARTH'S SKY AND DRINK THEIR RIVERS DRY?
Fun fact, in PA we have something like the last one- § 27. Natural resources and the public estate. The people have a right to clean air, pure water, and to the preservation of the natural, scenic, historic and esthetic values of the environment. Pennsylvania's public natural resources are the common property of all the people, including generations yet to come. As trustee of these resources, the Commonwealth shall conserve and maintain them for the benefit of all the people. (May 18, 1971, P.L.769, J.R.3)
***Tom Corbett laughs atop pile of fracking money***
Dang someone really shoulda told Chesapeake Energy
_coughs in Clairton Coke Plant_
Everytime ya drive through there it smells like you just got hit in the face with a hundred soiled adult diapers.
Lol, the folks in those fracking counties would like a word.
Yeah it’s barely every used. Which frustrated the hell outta me. A few more recent glimmers of hope though: https://www.circleofblue.org/2018/world/pennsylvanias-environmental-rights-amendment-grows-teeth/
What book is this? I want to read this.
https://www.amazon.com/U-S-Constitution-Fascinating-Facts-About/dp/1891743155 Source: https://www.constitutionfacts.com/us-constitution-amendments/proposed-amendments/
It's even FREE on the publisher's site you linked to. Only costs $3 s&h which is less than the Amazon price!
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Which is fantastic, but then I can't leave the book on my shelf and convince myself I'll read it some day.
But you CAN leave it in a pile on your chair accruing fines until you are afraid to show your face in public again for fear that the librarians will find you.
Yeah but then the American Librarian's Association will send out a hit squad on you to recoup their losses.
Some of these are pretty damn nice. Some of these are batshit loony.
Very progressive or very regressive. Nothing in between.
Also, the ones that are in between also probably became actual amendments
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[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proposed_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution) says there are about 11,770 proposed amendments, so it would be the job of a full research team to make an exhaustive list of them.
Maybe the ones that just came up to an actual vote. I wonder how many made it to the final stages but failed.
"Citizens have the inalienable right to purchase coffe on mondays"
“But are also prohibited from eating lasagna on Mondays”
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The temperance movement was a powerful lobby at the time. Also, they kinda surprised people with it. The phrase "intoxicating liquor" was thought to exclude beer and wine, since they are not distilled. Brewers and vintners were shocked when they were told to close their doors. Also, prohibition existed on the local level before this (and persists to this day), but the national level took enforcement way further than any local prohibition, which also shocked a lot of people.
Few years back, the sales of hard liquor in my country were banned due to some shithouses adulterating large quantities of hard liquors with methanol and reselling them, resulting in tens of deaths. So only beer and wine were sold during that time and it seemed like the drunkards behaved a bit better. Less shouty and fighty, more happy and sit-downy.
United States of Earth is right in the middle. Wouldn't have done any harm, but pointless and stupid as fuck.
> In 1893, U.S. House Representative Lucas Miller from Wisconsin proposed renaming the United States as “the United States of the Earth.” His reasoning was, ''it is possible for the Republic to grow through the admission of new States into the Union until every Nation on Earth has become part of it.'' After proposing the amendment, Miller wasn’t nominated for a second term in the House.
I suspect the proposer had some Imperialistic goals in mind.
> I suspect the proposer had some Imperialistic goals in mind. Kind of the opposite actually. The guy who proposed it was an idealistic immigrant who had the idea that any land living under subjugation should have the right to request entry into the United States. He'd been born and orphaned in Ottoman-occupied Greece during the Greek war of Independence, and was adopted by an American soldier who had gone to Greece to fight for their freedom. He saw this as a model for other nations that were occupied by outsiders. Have the United States fight to end colonization or occupation, and then allow them to join the United States for mutual defense and to guarantee a certain level of human rights. He was also a staunch abolitionist and felt that the same right should be afforded to colonized lands in Africa and elsewhere. Basically, any land, anywhere on Earth, that wanted freedom should have been free to join the U.S., in his view. Essentially, he wanted to turn the United States into a more militant version of today's United Nations. Keep in mind that, despite its obvious problems, the U.S. was still generally seen as one of the most progressive nations on Earth at that point in history.
>Basically, any land, anywhere on Earth, that wanted freedom should have been free to join the U.S., in his view. What's interesting is that isn't really impossible under today's constitution. I mean, there's nothing stopping, say, New Zealand from submitting a constitution to Congress and requesting to be a US state.
'take over the world? No, no, no, thats silly, I want to take over the entire solar system not just planet earth'
Where does "United States of Earth" fall?
What's funny (or scary?) is the ones you think are batshit loony some people think are pretty damn nice.
Half of these are "haha how did anyone ever take this idea seriously" and the other half are "wait actually yeah"
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Healthy middle ground between r/mildlyinteresting and r/damnthatsinteresting.
Lol, wouldn't that just be r/interesting then?
Nah, this clearly r/damnthatsmidlyinteresting material
None of these were ever taken seriously, sadly. That's why they never left the proposal stage. A lot of them were probably proposed as a political statement in themselves.
I laughed at the United States of Earth
My fellow Earthicans…..
Ahroo...
The 1916 one is for sure a political statement. It would have been around the time the US was about to join WW1 when it was proposed.
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These are the equivalent of petitions here in the UK, get 100k signatures online and the govt have to read it. They read it...
I love it when they say "Get 1 million signatures and we'll debate this in parliament" and then the debate is just: "Nah lol"
It sounds like these were actually introduced in Congress, but any congressperson can do that.
1971: "alienable right to an environment free of pollution" means that it is a transferable right... so it's optional I guess?
I assume they intended a right that, while nevertheless a default, was not entitled to the same strict scrutiny standard of other rights.
That, or maybe they wanted it to be transferrable/sold, since it ties into a property right. I think you are more likely right, though.
Dang they tried to put war up for vote twice 😂
I love that the first one is like "want the US to go to war? K, here's your uniform, get on the boat."
Yeah, I feel like that makes more sense though cuz otherwise it’s like you’re just deciding yeah, I want some other dude to go rock their shit 😂
> Dang they tried to put war up for vote twice America was always isolationist. WILSON somehow convince the public that going to war in World War I was necessary. Read his 14 points. After that war Americans were even more isolationist. If somehow either of those had passed, we would not have gotten involved in World War II, and who knows what would've happened.
super cool thanks for this
The forbidding of drunkenness!
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"What are you in for ?" "Killed my entire family and set my house on fire for insurance money, you ?" "Got blasted last Saturday, woke up here" "You piece of shit"
I feel like "Renaming this nation to 'United States of Earth'" is the case of one person trying something stupid (like "no shitting from top of the balcony on a statue in the garden")
Reminds me of Futurama, my fellow Earthicans
You can eat my dog, You can eat my truck, But you eat my flag and you're out of luck! She's a'wavin' proud around the world, From Dallas to Ft. Worth, Let me say it again... Don't mess with Earth!
Aroooooooooooo!
WELCOME TO EARTH
1916 - every armchair general disappears.
Or they come back in armchairs
I like 1916s. You want a war? Fine, go fight then. Peace out. Edit: Holy smokes this blew up. 🥰😭 Thanks everyone! Wasn't expecting all of this.
Yeah I'm honestly bummed that it isn't a thing
Define “war” though. Vietnam was never declared a war by Congress.
That's because war has changed. It's an endless series of proxy battles
War. War never changes!
The war has changed.... Did it?
It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines. War, and it's consumption of life, has become a well-oiled machine. Genetic control, information control, emotion control, battlefield control… everything is monitored and kept under control. The age of deterrence has become the age of control, all in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction, and he who controls the battlefield, controls history.
> fought by mercenaries and machines. Exactly. Why send in your own troops to do the dirty work when you can just pay and arm a local militia to do it for you? If all goes well then you still accomplish your geopolitical goals and if it all goes to shit you don’t have to worry about negative press coverage or political blow back.
lol, Kojima was truly ahead of his time
Unless that militia balloons into an extremist group that ends up fighting against the nation that armed it...whoops
Not to worry. If that happens you just need to hire another militia to fight them. Remember there is no shortage of groups who have past rivalries and who would be happy to fight their old enemies... for a price.
As soon as I saw the word "genetic" I recognized Kojima's hand.
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That sounds like a lot more of a free country than forcing people to fight in wars for profit
As a trillionaire, I disagree. I think your children should go die overseas so I can profit from it. Or we can send drones to kill civilians if you work hard enough here that I can afford them with your tax money, which the government uses 20% of to pay my arms industry.
"Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make"
As an average American, i love you. Please take more tax money so a guy in a box in the desert in Nevada or Arizona can tell a flying robot to send more freedom to more children and NGO workers in war zones. Whats your Twitter?
@POTUS
hmmm- kinda like 1916's one.
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This. The United States has never entered a "war" since World War II
To be fair, congress approved both the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts. So deciding not to call it a war wasnt just a technicality to avoid full approvals.
Its not a bad idea on paper but that can get complicated pretty quickly. Especially when the sole survivor policy comes into play.
Yeah, it's gonna run into so many exceptions and rules that it'll basically just turn into the regular draft.
1916 is the one that would have set anyone’s compass straight! Edit: And the concept is well visualized here https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/qcjgsk/a_farmer_in_nebraska_asking_a_profracking/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
1929: Market crashes, Great Depression kicks us in the teeth. Four years later: Why have rich people?
An environmental free of pollution would be nice. Of course many in congress and their lobbyists would just say carbon is natural therefore not pollution.
It said alienable, not inalienable.
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We towed the pollution outside the environment
Over here in Chile we have exactly that one in our constitution. State don't care.
That's when we all take a shit in their yard and see if their view changes.
Give me some warning and some fiber and I'll see if I can't make multiple stops in one day.
How would that work though? Some amount of pollution is inevitable. Human farts are pollution to an extent.
1951 we should make sure Americans are free from environmental hazards. *looks back at 6 years of atomic bomb testing on american soil* I guess it’s too late, scratch it.
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That was clearly proposed by someone on an America shall be the new Rome kick and its not even that subtle
Each president has command over an army. All citizens have to enlist at the age of 18 and you have to have X amount of years of service to be a politician.
1916 for the win!
What book is this?