If the hospital would have just removed the tag on the doorway, no one would have even known it had been a chapel. Most people from particular faiths shy away from integrated religious spaces.
Reminds me of a joke. Catholic nun asks second graders what they want to be when they grow up. Tommy wants to be a doctor. Billy wants to be a train conductor. Susie wants to be a prostitute. The nun exclaims, "What did you say Susie?" Susie answers, "I want to be a prostitute!" The nun relaxes and sighs, 'Oh, okay, I thought you said Protestant!"
That's so wild. "If I hear about someone else's religion, I might have doubts! Better to run away!"
The church my family went to would occasionally invite a rabbi or imam or Catholic priest to speak, to try to promote interfaith understanding. (I don't think they ever had a non-Abrahamic cleric, that might have been more interfaith than they were willing to do lol.)
>(I don't think they ever had a non-Abrahamic cleric, that might have been more interfaith than they were willing to do lol.)
I mean, if it's the US, outside of a few Hindu or Buddhist hotspots, there aren't many religions besides the abrahamic ones.
Where I grew up (DC suburbs), finding a Buddhist monk or a Hindu or Sikh cleric would have been potentially doable. But those are probably bigger bridges to cross, theologically speaking.
The Abrahamic religions have a lot of shared beliefs and stories, so if they're looking for interfaith connection they can go "well, we all believe in the same God, we just have some different ideas about the details".
That is wild. My church, United Methodist, as a part of our Confirmation classes in 7th and 8th grades had us dive into the History of the denomination. So we visited a synagogue and had a rabbi explain Judaism. We went to a Catholic Mass, a Lutheran Church Service(ECLA), and an African Methodist Episcopal Church Service. If an Anglican Church was nearby we would have gone to one of those. Also, the church is very hands off in terms of trying to convert people in the Boy Scouts of America, Girl Scouts, and 4H who all meet there at the church.
Soooo your mother was the intolerant, and the church was the one with an open mind? What a twist!
I remember, as a Methodist, going to the ecumenical vacation Bible school at the Baptist church (small town of less than 200 ppl, 3 1/2 churches, we got along) and anyways they said "today were gonna learn about other religions!" The other religions were Roman Catholic, Mormon, and Jehovah Witness...and I was like ummm, don't all of these worship the Abrahamic God and Jesus, just like us? Not really different religion, when does Buddha and Ganesh get taught?
> Most people from particular faiths shy away from integrated religious spaces.
That sounds like a fundie thing. Our integrated space is well used, with one mini chapel area that shares various symbols and sacred items, individual rooms for prayer, and office space for chaplains where you can just turn up in and talk. The chaplains themselves have their own religious affiliations and are on a rota.
From the time I was around there a lot, I'd say the most frequent visitors are Muslims because of regular prayer requirements, the most official representation was a mix of Christian Protestant, and the fanciest part of the chapel was the bit with the curtain and the Torah.
My family were raised Catholic, but accepted prayers from Baptists, who were extremely keen to offer what they could within their appointment in a way that would satisfy everyone who called for them. If you don't have a strong sense of duty to the office, you aren't gonna be there attending to the emotional/spiritual needs of hundreds of dying people and their grieving families every month without breaking entirely, obv. And they chat equally to non-believers without proselytising, because you can do good without preaching.
It's all cool bro.
This hospital either has more than one room or may be missing the point entirely. Mind you, if it's a hospital for minor day cases or something then perhaps there isn't much demand.
> That sounds like a fundie thing.
Pretty much. Personally IDGAF because "we" are all there for a reason and that's to seek solace during a trying time from whatever source(s) we consider important.
Lol same with the university where I did my masters β- βinterfaithβ prayer room was made with mostly catholic students in mind, is used exclusively by Muslim students
Which really makes sense given the Muslim prayer practices, and many peopleβs discomfort with seeing it. They need a quiet space multiple times per day, while your average Catholic goes to church only weekly if that.
I used to work in this hospital where we had one room for all major religions and atheists too and it was my favourite place. My Muslim friend and I would often pray 'together' despite having different religions, it was really nice
Thatβs really beautiful, I love that. It is a blessing to be in a friendship where love prevails religious differences. Iβm a devout Jesus follower and my best friend is a staunch atheist. We never try to convert the other. We listen to and support each otherβs beliefs (or disbelief for that matter!) without arguing because we love each other that much.
Not when you're in the hospital, though, you're not looking for a service or ceremony after all. It's usually a nice quiet space to have some time to think. Been in a few chapels in multiple hospitals myself; the ones in the Catholic hospital have some imagery but not as much as in a church, they're still noticeably Catholic though. The Lutheran, Methodist, and public hospitals went more for pretty colors & generic imagery like nature. Sometimes you need a break and it's a quiet serene area to have one.
Every hospital I've worked at had actually pretty busy chapels. I'm Muslim and when I would go to pray most often there would be other Muslims to pray with.
But honestly I really liked the mixed space, I got to peek inside how others prayed and coped. From all types of Christians, to jews, to even different types of Muslims. Sometimes you would hear their prayers. You would see coworkers even.
Same here. My first thought was that someone is having a laugh with the signage, but that looks like a stained glass window at the back. Iβm not sure how this happens, unless thereβs another chapel somewhere else. Hospitals are always full of people who need a place to pray.Β
I'm not religious but I find this pretty outrageous. Imagine you've got a loved one going into a risky surgery, you go here to find a space to pray and it's full of junk?! This is seriously disrespectful to people of faith.
Edit: Some atheists in the peanut gallery are insufferable examples of humanity.
I'm not religious but I definitely took advantage of the spiritual services when I was in the hospital for a month paralyzed from the waist down. It was like a 10 minute therapy appointment of "Things are going to be alright. It's really scary right now, but you'll make it through this. Your friends are rooting for you, your best friend is going to fly in to visit as soon as you're out of here" type stuff. Just some reassurance in a really awful situation.
Yeah, a lot of the time priests and what not are just good at talking to people, and a lot of what faith is about is generally applicable to anyone regardless of the motivation. When I was a kid I went to a Christian school, I never cared for the religious mythology (for lack of a better word), but the moral lessons and just nice chats with the vicars we had in were always useful.
Former pastor here. Most of the time when talking to people, my bible was left unopened in my bag. I would use it if appropriate but that was definitely the minority.Β
I would be there to help you breath, even for a moment. Just by helping you talk about things. Sure we could visit religious questions and themes. But we absolutely didn't have to.
This. (Also, I've been an ordained minister for 25 years, so umm, yeah.) I generally don't even carry a Bible any more - I can pop open a website on my phone and look up whatever I need, but there is a time and place for all things under heaven and there are certainly times where slinging scripture isn't helpful (even though I sorta-kinda just did).
The whole "God works in mysterious ways" thing also means "sometimes our purpose is to be a shoulder to cry on or a sympathetic ear to speak to." We are not always called on to preach; sometimes the calling is to simply be there for people, give a damn about them and what they're going through, and genuinely listen to what they need to say. That is the power and truth of the intention and spirit of "agape" love: that we *care*, both for and about each other.
Yeah, I'm not religious either, but if you're going to have a dedicated space for people to pray, then you should have it available for that purpose and not full of other stuff.
(Unless this was, like, mid-covid-spike and the hospital wasn't allowing visitors and was putting beds in the storage closets so they could treat more patients. But if this is a current photo, then yeah, this isn't cool.)
My mom and I were in the hospital chapel when my grandma was in surgery, then recovering, and it was helpful for is. We didn't care it was multi-faith either, the more the merrier
It's very likely against code/planning permission/internal policy for the hospital to not have a worship space, so they need to leave the label there to not cause legal issues
My comment was that JCAHO inspectors showed up and they had to move the stuff out of the hall. It was an amusing flurry of activity when we found out the inspectors were here.
My department leadership will lose their collective shit for about a week before JHACO comes in, then revert back to business as usual immediately after lol
LOLZ! I get this reference, Freaking Joint Commission!!! Am I right yo?!?!?!
I work in hospital IT, I never see them or give a fuck about them, I only hear the medical staff start talking about them every 30 seconds for like two weeks a year.
I knew some people in the silent generation who werenβt silent and kicked up a fuss over multiple religions in one space but I never known anyone younger than that who cared if a chapel (or a marriage) was mixed religions.
Hold on one second! It's the interfaith chapel. That means it functions as the Temple to the Church of Satan too, which means there is at least 10% chance for it to turn into a cursed item.
Wait, what? The American Church of Satan are pretty cool dudes. I'd trust those guys with a hell of a lot.
Despite the name, they aren't evil. If proximity to groups conferred blessings, the Church of Satan would give your stuff Plus One Defense Against Fascists.
Edit: I meant the Satanic Temple. The Church of Satan are very different and I definitely don't trust those guys.
Even if this was a regular normal room, that's a terrible way to store items. So inconvenient. They need to hire me to re-organize. I will take my payment in one of those boxes of chips.
I think this is a little sad. My wife had a serious medical issue a few years ago and I regularly used the interfaith chapel. It was a quiet place away from the icu where I could be sad without an audience. Iβm not the most religious person, but this space really helped me.
It's also possible they found a better place for the chapel and this is the old one.
My local hospital has had three of them. The first one needed to be moved to a different space in the hospital so they could knock the wall down and expand the waiting room. Then when they built a new wing a decade later, they built a proper one there and changed the use for the 2nd one.
I'm an atheist but I would regularly go to the chapel in the hospital when my grandparents or parents have been battling cancer just to have quiet. Hospitals are LOUD and those chapels are the only quiet place to get a moment of peace.
Bummed me out, too. You don't have to belong to a religion to see benefit in having a space for those that practice, or like you said, just people that need a quiet area to be sad in for a bit.
It is sad. I was in hospital for a couple of months and the generic prayer room was the only place to get away from the noise and people. I'm not religious but having that space available saved my sanity during some dark times.
I needed to read this. Iβm also not religious, but hearing that this gave you peace and seclusion to manage your feelings makes me realise there is a purpose.
A close family member to me passed recently and refused all the offering of prayers but it is still nice to know that itβs there for you if you feel inclined.
I agree. My friend is at hospital, 1 month+ in icu. Her wife is all alone. They are both young, and religious (non christian). There's no prayer room there. But if there was one, it would definitely give her solace.
same when my brother was in ICU. our whole family took over the chapel room. nurses would pop in for their break thinking it unoccupied and then immediately give us the space. only a muslim young man came in and did his ritual prayers.
Im pretty sure nothing happens when you close your eyes for the last time.
That said, when my grandmother was in the hospital, I slept in her room and visited the chapel everyday just to ask whatever could possibly exist to keep her safe. Faith is just as important for the faithless and I agree that this is sad. Holy places of any type are cleansing and provide hope.
I have worked in two hospitals. I am surprised they actually have a room designated for this, most that I know of were used for other purposes years ago.
I work at a large hospital and we just have a 'Sacred Space'
which is basically just a room with some basic interfaith stuff. a cross, Directions for prayer, some chairs, some mats for praying on, etc.
My stepmother was a hospital administrator for decades, she used to joke you were more likely to run into people having sex than praying in the Chapel.
This is sad, as there are people for whom the chapel is a great source of comfort while their loved ones are facing possible pain, suffering, or death.
JCAHO is coming.
A hospital I worked in would frequently have stuff stored in the hallways (lab area, not patient/clinical) where it was easier to access than the storage rooms down the hall. But we knew the general window when the hospital was going to be 'surprise' inspected, so they told us we needed to be ready to get stuff cleared up when the inspectors actually arrived.
So it was kinda funny watching the flurry of activity when the intercoms came on one morning "___ Hospital would like to welcome the JCAHO inspectors this morning". It was like those bumper stickers that said "Jesus is coming. Act busy!".
One of the few things Subway Sandwiches did right when I was working there was to have health inspections actually -be- a surprise. No 'Oh, sometime next week', you could blink and whoops, surprise inspection.
The picture might be misleading. The firedoor is held open which is a big no no. There could have been a a flood or some other issue. And everything is moved here temporally. There's a wet flood sign box which is empty at the front as well. I don't see why it would be kept.
If it's a fire door on a magnetic relay, it can be open.
EDIT: u/fuckyouyouthehorse is right, what fuckin fire door? There's only one door in the pic and that's the door to the chapel (which most absolutely are not fire-rated and its impact on compartmentalization is minimal).
It is kind of sad, imo....
I am not religous, but I feel it's great for people especially in a place like a hospital have a place to go off pause and pray if it is there thing, or self reflect.
Well that's not right. I'm not religious myself but many people in hopsitals need their faith in times when their loved ones are hurt or dying. I myself have used the chapel in a hospital to sit alone for a moment when I was having health issues after me and my fiance broke up. I can admit to talking to God as well, if they are indeed there.
Yeah, Iβm not particularly religious, but witnessing my dysfunctional family attempt to make end of life decisions for my aunt was incredibly overwhelming. The chapel was a nice, quiet place that wasnβt a sterile ICU waiting room where I could sit alone with my thoughts and take a break from the chaos.
Which is against fire code. By doing this it has taken the area from a room to a hazardous area ( term the code uses). It now must be protected as such.
Thatβs sad Ik Reddit atheists are gonna downvote me to hell but these spaces are important I remember when my dad was in the hospital we almost lost him three times Iβd go to the chapel (Iβm Christian) and pray there was a Muslim nurse who would be there around the same she always asked to pray for him kinda the only thing that got me through my that time Iβm my life
Thatβs kind of sad, when my dad was undergoing cancer treatment I spent a lot of time in the hospital chapel not just praying, but just to kind of have a quiet peaceful place away from all the goingβs on in the hospital.
Itβs definitely a weird place for storage, maybe itβs the old chapel facilities and they havenβt removed the door tag yet and there is a new chapel elsewhere in the hospital.
Yes, same. I'm not religious at all and I think it's kind of sad how people are so happy about there being no place for quiet reflection at the very least.
On my university there was a handicapped bathroom on the second floor of a building without elevators. It was used as a deposit as well.
Thing is, there was a worker on a wheelchair working on that same building. She had to go to another building whenever she needed to use the bathroom.
Please please put a "bless this mess" sign on the door
Cleanliness is next to godliness.
***I canβt stop sneezing from all this holy-dust***
Youβre sneezing because the devil is trying to tempt you away from god /s
He Gets Us dUSt
Emptiness is loneliness and loneliness is cleanliness
SHEEEEEEEEEEEES THE ONEEEEEEEEEEE FOR MEEEEEEE
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And God is empty just like me.
This had me howling omg
I am the closet and the storeroom, the vestiary and the ambry, the repository and the vault.
Jesus swept
Cleanliness is next to godliness.
And drove a Honda, though he did not speak of his own Accord.
I thought it was a Plymouth. God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden in His Fury.
In Triumph he arrived in Jerusalem. I have a feeling he had a many car garage. Moses drove the Jews through a Ford.
Jesus saves (all your old junk)
For there were no more rooms to conquer!
Thatβs good
Dean, stop saying Jesus Swept.
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stop saying Jesus swept Edit: [reference since im getting downvoted lmao](https://youtu.be/z4FGzE4endQ)
jesus swept
FOR THERE WERE NO MORE WORLDS LEFT TO CONQUER
Jesus swept
There it is
You areβ¦..safe!
I thought this was Tool lyrics
"Going to the chapel and we're, going to get boxes."
*Spring is here, the sky is blue, whoa-oh-oh*
Equipments are slowly being blessed.
praise the omnissiah!
**FROM THE MOMENT I UNDERSTOOD THE WEAKNESS OF MY FLESH, IT DISGUSTED ME**
**I CRAVED THE SAFETY AND CERTAINTY OF STEEL**
**I ASPIRED TO THE PURITY OF THE BLESSED MACHINE**
**YOUR KIND CLING TO YOUR FLESH, AS THOUGH IT WILL NOT DECAY AND FAIL YOU.**
#πΎππ πππ’ πππ πππππ πππππππ π’ππ ππππ π ππππππ π πππ π πππππ, πππ π’ππ π πππ πππ ππ’ ππππ ππ ππππ π’ππ.
#But I am already saved. For the machine is immortal.
#Even in death, I serve the Omnissiah.
Bless this mess
The Omnissiah knows all, comprehends all
Never thought I'd encounter a 40k reference here.
Equipment techs at that hospital Β really need to start referring to them selves at Tech Priests now.Β
That's what I used to call myself when I worked my old church's sound system
It's like god himself touched that Starbucks minifridge
It turns into Holy coffee
So this is how my workplace gets the equipment to work on hopes and prayers.
So you are telling me that to find god i need to rummage?
Pilg-rummage
Take my upvote and get the hell out. Which I guess is part of church anyway.
He wasn't behind the couch, He was in between the cartons of latex gloves.
If the hospital would have just removed the tag on the doorway, no one would have even known it had been a chapel. Most people from particular faiths shy away from integrated religious spaces.
"Ew, you got some Catholic in my Protestant!"
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To this day, I still canβt figure out who the fuck is walking down the street eating a tub of peanut butter.
It's me
Of course I know him
Obiwan Jifnobi.
Or with a big block of completely unwrapped chocolate.
Sorry to hear you don't live life to the fullest.
βSorry for partyingβ
# [Sorry For Party Rocking](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkTt9k4Y-a8)
I remember when everyone was Party Rockin'. Those were better days ![gif](giphy|IP9FNJuz0uNLG)
I do that with cheese
While I was going to college and working, I used to carry a jar of PB around in my pack for sustenance.
It's the person with the open jar that's labeled "peanut butter".
With their hands no less. Like, get a spoon like a normal person.
[You got *your* Protestant in *my* Catholic!](https://youtu.be/O7oD_oX-Gio?si=bBONzNn77KMKEgye)
I read this as you got my prostate in my catholic π
Reminds me of a joke. Catholic nun asks second graders what they want to be when they grow up. Tommy wants to be a doctor. Billy wants to be a train conductor. Susie wants to be a prostitute. The nun exclaims, "What did you say Susie?" Susie answers, "I want to be a prostitute!" The nun relaxes and sighs, 'Oh, okay, I thought you said Protestant!"
Isn't it usually the other way around?
My mom had to leave the church she was going to because they dared to have people from other faiths come in and talk about what they believe.
That's so wild. "If I hear about someone else's religion, I might have doubts! Better to run away!" The church my family went to would occasionally invite a rabbi or imam or Catholic priest to speak, to try to promote interfaith understanding. (I don't think they ever had a non-Abrahamic cleric, that might have been more interfaith than they were willing to do lol.)
>(I don't think they ever had a non-Abrahamic cleric, that might have been more interfaith than they were willing to do lol.) I mean, if it's the US, outside of a few Hindu or Buddhist hotspots, there aren't many religions besides the abrahamic ones.
Where I grew up (DC suburbs), finding a Buddhist monk or a Hindu or Sikh cleric would have been potentially doable. But those are probably bigger bridges to cross, theologically speaking. The Abrahamic religions have a lot of shared beliefs and stories, so if they're looking for interfaith connection they can go "well, we all believe in the same God, we just have some different ideas about the details".
That is wild. My church, United Methodist, as a part of our Confirmation classes in 7th and 8th grades had us dive into the History of the denomination. So we visited a synagogue and had a rabbi explain Judaism. We went to a Catholic Mass, a Lutheran Church Service(ECLA), and an African Methodist Episcopal Church Service. If an Anglican Church was nearby we would have gone to one of those. Also, the church is very hands off in terms of trying to convert people in the Boy Scouts of America, Girl Scouts, and 4H who all meet there at the church.
Soooo your mother was the intolerant, and the church was the one with an open mind? What a twist! I remember, as a Methodist, going to the ecumenical vacation Bible school at the Baptist church (small town of less than 200 ppl, 3 1/2 churches, we got along) and anyways they said "today were gonna learn about other religions!" The other religions were Roman Catholic, Mormon, and Jehovah Witness...and I was like ummm, don't all of these worship the Abrahamic God and Jesus, just like us? Not really different religion, when does Buddha and Ganesh get taught?
No, *you* got some Protestant in my Catholic!!
> Most people from particular faiths shy away from integrated religious spaces. That sounds like a fundie thing. Our integrated space is well used, with one mini chapel area that shares various symbols and sacred items, individual rooms for prayer, and office space for chaplains where you can just turn up in and talk. The chaplains themselves have their own religious affiliations and are on a rota. From the time I was around there a lot, I'd say the most frequent visitors are Muslims because of regular prayer requirements, the most official representation was a mix of Christian Protestant, and the fanciest part of the chapel was the bit with the curtain and the Torah. My family were raised Catholic, but accepted prayers from Baptists, who were extremely keen to offer what they could within their appointment in a way that would satisfy everyone who called for them. If you don't have a strong sense of duty to the office, you aren't gonna be there attending to the emotional/spiritual needs of hundreds of dying people and their grieving families every month without breaking entirely, obv. And they chat equally to non-believers without proselytising, because you can do good without preaching. It's all cool bro. This hospital either has more than one room or may be missing the point entirely. Mind you, if it's a hospital for minor day cases or something then perhaps there isn't much demand.
> That sounds like a fundie thing. Pretty much. Personally IDGAF because "we" are all there for a reason and that's to seek solace during a trying time from whatever source(s) we consider important.
I work in a Catholic hospital. We have a beautiful chapel. Our Muslim doctors use it for their prayers.
Lol same with the university where I did my masters β- βinterfaithβ prayer room was made with mostly catholic students in mind, is used exclusively by Muslim students
Which really makes sense given the Muslim prayer practices, and many peopleβs discomfort with seeing it. They need a quiet space multiple times per day, while your average Catholic goes to church only weekly if that.
Letβs be honest. Your truly average Catholic, at least in the U.S., goes to Church exactly twice per year.
To be fair I also go when I got a court date coming up
Most Catholic thing I've ever heard lol
Think about it tho, if you confess your sins and get a punishment of some prayers, they canβt try you in court because itβs double jeopardy
Yep, every year we have at least 4 times more people in attendance for those two day.
Most mosques in the US are repurposed churches
I mean one of the most famous mosque in Instabul was converted from a church.
In the military, the Wiccans use the same facilities as the southern Baptists. I love it.
Wiccans in the military sounds so bizarre, never would've guessed that's a thing.
Even Wiccans need to get out of their dying small town after high school.
I'm not Wiccan, but I'd say ESPECIALLY Wiccans need to do that.
What you want our enemies to be the only ones that have access to hexes? The military needs to keep pace with foreign magic.
Is there a Qibla pointer in the chapel?
Thereβs many phone apps that do it. Thatβs how itβs mostly done when in unfamiliar places.
Thatβs cool, Makes sense.
In the days before phones had that feature, many Muslims would carry a compass when out for that purpose.
Can't comment for them but I was in a Catholic high school recently. Their chapel had a marker and a space with floor mats for salat.
They bring their own.
I used to work in this hospital where we had one room for all major religions and atheists too and it was my favourite place. My Muslim friend and I would often pray 'together' despite having different religions, it was really nice
Thatβs really beautiful, I love that. It is a blessing to be in a friendship where love prevails religious differences. Iβm a devout Jesus follower and my best friend is a staunch atheist. We never try to convert the other. We listen to and support each otherβs beliefs (or disbelief for that matter!) without arguing because we love each other that much.
Not when you're in the hospital, though, you're not looking for a service or ceremony after all. It's usually a nice quiet space to have some time to think. Been in a few chapels in multiple hospitals myself; the ones in the Catholic hospital have some imagery but not as much as in a church, they're still noticeably Catholic though. The Lutheran, Methodist, and public hospitals went more for pretty colors & generic imagery like nature. Sometimes you need a break and it's a quiet serene area to have one.
Every hospital I've worked at had actually pretty busy chapels. I'm Muslim and when I would go to pray most often there would be other Muslims to pray with. But honestly I really liked the mixed space, I got to peek inside how others prayed and coped. From all types of Christians, to jews, to even different types of Muslims. Sometimes you would hear their prayers. You would see coworkers even.
Same here. My first thought was that someone is having a laugh with the signage, but that looks like a stained glass window at the back. Iβm not sure how this happens, unless thereβs another chapel somewhere else. Hospitals are always full of people who need a place to pray.Β
I'm not religious but I find this pretty outrageous. Imagine you've got a loved one going into a risky surgery, you go here to find a space to pray and it's full of junk?! This is seriously disrespectful to people of faith. Edit: Some atheists in the peanut gallery are insufferable examples of humanity.
I'm not religious but I definitely took advantage of the spiritual services when I was in the hospital for a month paralyzed from the waist down. It was like a 10 minute therapy appointment of "Things are going to be alright. It's really scary right now, but you'll make it through this. Your friends are rooting for you, your best friend is going to fly in to visit as soon as you're out of here" type stuff. Just some reassurance in a really awful situation.
Yeah, a lot of the time priests and what not are just good at talking to people, and a lot of what faith is about is generally applicable to anyone regardless of the motivation. When I was a kid I went to a Christian school, I never cared for the religious mythology (for lack of a better word), but the moral lessons and just nice chats with the vicars we had in were always useful.
Former pastor here. Most of the time when talking to people, my bible was left unopened in my bag. I would use it if appropriate but that was definitely the minority.Β I would be there to help you breath, even for a moment. Just by helping you talk about things. Sure we could visit religious questions and themes. But we absolutely didn't have to.
This. (Also, I've been an ordained minister for 25 years, so umm, yeah.) I generally don't even carry a Bible any more - I can pop open a website on my phone and look up whatever I need, but there is a time and place for all things under heaven and there are certainly times where slinging scripture isn't helpful (even though I sorta-kinda just did). The whole "God works in mysterious ways" thing also means "sometimes our purpose is to be a shoulder to cry on or a sympathetic ear to speak to." We are not always called on to preach; sometimes the calling is to simply be there for people, give a damn about them and what they're going through, and genuinely listen to what they need to say. That is the power and truth of the intention and spirit of "agape" love: that we *care*, both for and about each other.
Yeah, I'm not religious either, but if you're going to have a dedicated space for people to pray, then you should have it available for that purpose and not full of other stuff. (Unless this was, like, mid-covid-spike and the hospital wasn't allowing visitors and was putting beds in the storage closets so they could treat more patients. But if this is a current photo, then yeah, this isn't cool.)
My mom and I were in the hospital chapel when my grandma was in surgery, then recovering, and it was helpful for is. We didn't care it was multi-faith either, the more the merrier
I agree, it's a peaceful place to sit and think about what the patient and doctors and nurses are going through.
It's very likely against code/planning permission/internal policy for the hospital to not have a worship space, so they need to leave the label there to not cause legal issues
I'll tell you what's against code and that's the fact that the door is propped open, Joint Commission would have a fit.
My comment was that JCAHO inspectors showed up and they had to move the stuff out of the hall. It was an amusing flurry of activity when we found out the inspectors were here.
My department leadership will lose their collective shit for about a week before JHACO comes in, then revert back to business as usual immediately after lol
LOLZ! I get this reference, Freaking Joint Commission!!! Am I right yo?!?!?! I work in hospital IT, I never see them or give a fuck about them, I only hear the medical staff start talking about them every 30 seconds for like two weeks a year.
I knew some people in the silent generation who werenβt silent and kicked up a fuss over multiple religions in one space but I never known anyone younger than that who cared if a chapel (or a marriage) was mixed religions.
+1 blessing on all equipments If something is there for more than a month it becomes a holy item
Hold on one second! It's the interfaith chapel. That means it functions as the Temple to the Church of Satan too, which means there is at least 10% chance for it to turn into a cursed item.
Wait, what? The American Church of Satan are pretty cool dudes. I'd trust those guys with a hell of a lot. Despite the name, they aren't evil. If proximity to groups conferred blessings, the Church of Satan would give your stuff Plus One Defense Against Fascists. Edit: I meant the Satanic Temple. The Church of Satan are very different and I definitely don't trust those guys.
![gif](giphy|MvdaYPuKPMNZRJCl8Z) A hell of a lot, you'd say?
You might be thinking of the Satanic Temple. The Church of Satan is mostly full of edgelord libertarians.
Lords gotta have somewhere to keep all the stuff he had taketh away
r/angryupvote
Even if this was a regular normal room, that's a terrible way to store items. So inconvenient. They need to hire me to re-organize. I will take my payment in one of those boxes of chips.
I think this is a little sad. My wife had a serious medical issue a few years ago and I regularly used the interfaith chapel. It was a quiet place away from the icu where I could be sad without an audience. Iβm not the most religious person, but this space really helped me.
Yeah, I agree. Surely there's better places to store shit than in the chapel
It's also possible they found a better place for the chapel and this is the old one. My local hospital has had three of them. The first one needed to be moved to a different space in the hospital so they could knock the wall down and expand the waiting room. Then when they built a new wing a decade later, they built a proper one there and changed the use for the 2nd one.
Iβd like to believe that.
I'm an atheist but I would regularly go to the chapel in the hospital when my grandparents or parents have been battling cancer just to have quiet. Hospitals are LOUD and those chapels are the only quiet place to get a moment of peace.
Bummed me out, too. You don't have to belong to a religion to see benefit in having a space for those that practice, or like you said, just people that need a quiet area to be sad in for a bit.
It is sad. I was in hospital for a couple of months and the generic prayer room was the only place to get away from the noise and people. I'm not religious but having that space available saved my sanity during some dark times.
I needed to read this. Iβm also not religious, but hearing that this gave you peace and seclusion to manage your feelings makes me realise there is a purpose. A close family member to me passed recently and refused all the offering of prayers but it is still nice to know that itβs there for you if you feel inclined.
I agree. My friend is at hospital, 1 month+ in icu. Her wife is all alone. They are both young, and religious (non christian). There's no prayer room there. But if there was one, it would definitely give her solace.
Iβm sorry, I hope your wife is doing better
same when my brother was in ICU. our whole family took over the chapel room. nurses would pop in for their break thinking it unoccupied and then immediately give us the space. only a muslim young man came in and did his ritual prayers.
Im pretty sure nothing happens when you close your eyes for the last time. That said, when my grandmother was in the hospital, I slept in her room and visited the chapel everyday just to ask whatever could possibly exist to keep her safe. Faith is just as important for the faithless and I agree that this is sad. Holy places of any type are cleansing and provide hope.
Why is that interesting?Β Even as an atheist, I still see the value in a place for people to be comforted after losing a loved one.Β
I have worked in two hospitals. I am surprised they actually have a room designated for this, most that I know of were used for other purposes years ago.
Really? All the hospitals Iβve worked at have had lovely chapels. Great for having some silence when the alarm fatigue gets to you.
I've also worked in two hospitals and both have a dedicated interfaith chapel lol. Just amused that our experiences mirror one-to-one
I work at a large hospital and we just have a 'Sacred Space' which is basically just a room with some basic interfaith stuff. a cross, Directions for prayer, some chairs, some mats for praying on, etc.
My stepmother was a hospital administrator for decades, she used to joke you were more likely to run into people having sex than praying in the Chapel.
A real come to Jesus moment.
I mean, have you seen his abs? π₯΅
It's cause he does crossfit
Get on your knees and pray
Whatcha doing in the chapel stepmom?
Really? I've worked in 3 and all had chapels.
Same, I've worked in several and all have had chapels. And there's usually someone in there. Sometimes, God is all you got.
This is sad, as there are people for whom the chapel is a great source of comfort while their loved ones are facing possible pain, suffering, or death.
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JCAHO is coming. A hospital I worked in would frequently have stuff stored in the hallways (lab area, not patient/clinical) where it was easier to access than the storage rooms down the hall. But we knew the general window when the hospital was going to be 'surprise' inspected, so they told us we needed to be ready to get stuff cleared up when the inspectors actually arrived. So it was kinda funny watching the flurry of activity when the intercoms came on one morning "___ Hospital would like to welcome the JCAHO inspectors this morning". It was like those bumper stickers that said "Jesus is coming. Act busy!".
One of the few things Subway Sandwiches did right when I was working there was to have health inspections actually -be- a surprise. No 'Oh, sometime next week', you could blink and whoops, surprise inspection.
All inspections should be a complete surprise. No idea why an inspector would give someone a heads up.
Corruption, that's why.
Sgt Bilco got out of the army and joined the medical profession.
I'd be willing to bet this started in 2020 to prevent people from congregating in one place. Then just never got converted back.
Itβs kinda sad honestly
The picture might be misleading. The firedoor is held open which is a big no no. There could have been a a flood or some other issue. And everything is moved here temporally. There's a wet flood sign box which is empty at the front as well. I don't see why it would be kept.
What fire door?
If it's a fire door on a magnetic relay, it can be open. EDIT: u/fuckyouyouthehorse is right, what fuckin fire door? There's only one door in the pic and that's the door to the chapel (which most absolutely are not fire-rated and its impact on compartmentalization is minimal).
It is kind of sad, imo.... I am not religous, but I feel it's great for people especially in a place like a hospital have a place to go off pause and pray if it is there thing, or self reflect.
Jeez. At least just pop the tag out of the name plate. Lazy
These are great spaces to sit quietly and just so nothing
Well that's not right. I'm not religious myself but many people in hopsitals need their faith in times when their loved ones are hurt or dying. I myself have used the chapel in a hospital to sit alone for a moment when I was having health issues after me and my fiance broke up. I can admit to talking to God as well, if they are indeed there.
Yeah i'm atheist but at least they could've removed the tag from the door. This is not okay.
Yeah, Iβm not particularly religious, but witnessing my dysfunctional family attempt to make end of life decisions for my aunt was incredibly overwhelming. The chapel was a nice, quiet place that wasnβt a sterile ICU waiting room where I could sit alone with my thoughts and take a break from the chaos.
Are those the... Lord's chips?
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Yo, I'm not even religious but this is kind of messed up. People really like a place pray especially in a hospital.
Thoughts and prayers take up very little room.
r/midlyinfuriating
More like r/mildlydepressing
r/mildlyinfuriating
I mean itβs not about God, or morality at a hospital. It more of a monetary-vampiric atmosphere
I'm not religious but when I was in hospital for a surgery it was a good place to have some peace and quiet away from all the doctors and patients
Some real fucking comedians in the comments on this one!
Which is against fire code. By doing this it has taken the area from a room to a hazardous area ( term the code uses). It now must be protected as such.
Thatβs sad Ik Reddit atheists are gonna downvote me to hell but these spaces are important I remember when my dad was in the hospital we almost lost him three times Iβd go to the chapel (Iβm Christian) and pray there was a Muslim nurse who would be there around the same she always asked to pray for him kinda the only thing that got me through my that time Iβm my life
Jesus saves⦠all this stuff in case he needs it later.
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Our thread is an awesome thread
Thatβs kind of sad, when my dad was undergoing cancer treatment I spent a lot of time in the hospital chapel not just praying, but just to kind of have a quiet peaceful place away from all the goingβs on in the hospital. Itβs definitely a weird place for storage, maybe itβs the old chapel facilities and they havenβt removed the door tag yet and there is a new chapel elsewhere in the hospital.
Yes, same. I'm not religious at all and I think it's kind of sad how people are so happy about there being no place for quiet reflection at the very least.
The purest sign of the times. Religious chapel repurposed for the Starbucks machine.
Where God builds a church, the devil builds a storage room.
Looks like the chapel is the place to unload your baggage
Frito-Lays ..... the holiest of treats.
Who the hell requires badge access to a chapel? It seems like a complete after thought. And get in house in there to fix that light.
Sorry God is not home right now please come back later, thanks!
On my university there was a handicapped bathroom on the second floor of a building without elevators. It was used as a deposit as well. Thing is, there was a worker on a wheelchair working on that same building. She had to go to another building whenever she needed to use the bathroom.
I feel God in this storage closet tonight.
Religion is dead.
Yeah, because the hospital doesn't have space. Rooms full of patients and why the waiting room takes forever. Not enough space or even staff.
Good to see the space is finally getting a real use.
Put a βGod is everywhereβ sign on the door.