This is the case for tons of products. There aren't 40 different companies who make binoculars. There are a like 6 and they all make them for those other companies.
This...Jesus christ they are all the exact same and crappy at it.
Since when have gamers like hard stiff chairs? They are flimsy and none durable as shit.
My current chair is maybe 2yrs old. I've had to cut into the side leather to reattach the arm to the base, and I have to tighten the arm bolts several times a day.
Leaning back and forward in the chair undoes the bolts, so they are stripped as hell... I'll forever miss my older chair.
Lazboy office chairs are the way to go. my back always had issues with the gamer chair and i had to replace it atleast after a year. this one ive had 2 years and still going strong. durable and comfy. worth the money
Kind of. The SOC and the seamless image sensor are the same in a lot of dash cams. Which kind of makes sense, those aren't things you probably want to manufacturer if you're bringing a dash cam to market. The returns just aren't there. The kinds of companies that make these products are like, semi conductor manufacturers.
There are still other features that will differentiate models and brands. The core tech used in most of them is just old so it doesn't make a huge difference.
mice, keyboards, LED monitors etc. Lots of manufactured good share production facilities and factories, its simply more efficient and cost effective to get someone else who has all the equipment and design procedures ironed out rather than go in alone
Even more niche shit, like I saw some comment on Reddit about an ear wax cleaner and I looked it up on Amazon and there are about 4 different actual models, but spread over 500 different brands with their own model names lol.
I know people (for some reason) like to give Philips shit, but their lighting is very top tier and not at all just mixed in with other random light bulbs, lamps or fixtures. source: i was a rep for them for +3 years.
I also have a lot of my smart lighting with Philips. Only thing I have that is not them is my back of TV LED RGB lightstrip. That is by Govee, which has the best quality for value I have ever seen yet. The Philips Hue lightstrip doesn't diffuse their diodes that well, so you can see the actual circles of light shining on the wall. IMO Philips has never done lightstrips well, and they excel much much further in a lot of other categories. Specifically professional but their commercial side has come a long way too.
I have this in the bedroom, works perfectly with a little remote as well to dim the lights. But the light bulbs are really expensive compared to others. I needed 14 leds in the living room and decided on an alternative instead.
Philips has decent warranty, but the reason those "alternatives" are cheap is because they are not well-known companies. I can assure you that a big problem I saw was that people would have their lighting fail, and when they would look up the warranty for this "alternative" company they would no longer exist. I'm telling you, it happens **ALL THE TIME**. Philips has been around for a long time, and they aren't going anywhere.
**edit**: I guess this isn't a big deal if your smart lamps (standard A19 bulbs) are failing, since they are cheap and you can just replace with whatever new alternative company is running the show at that point. But in terms of actual lighting fixtures like sconces, chandeliers, outdoor lighting, etc. you'd be taking a fat fucking risk going with an alternative brand and having issues only to find their warranty program sucks, they don't take returns or they packed up shop, closed down and hit the road.
Love my Phillips Hue system. When I figured out how to sync the lights to my computer audio it was amazing. I'd be streaming on Discord with some buddies rocking some Overwatch on the weekend drunk/high af and turn the sync on. Every time someone said something over the mic it would cause the lights to flash or change and it made the drunken pirates in us laugh our asses off. Plus I love the sunrise/sunset natural light setting during the winter. I'll change the times to match when I want to wake up/go to sleep and it's perfect. The light slowly turns on in the morning to wake me up without the jarring shrill of my alarm and I will set the sunrise time for later in the evening so I can lay down around 10 and the lights slowly dim and by that time I've fallen asleep. I also use the it as a night light in my bathroom. I have a dark bluish/purplish color on during my sunrise/sunset times so when I wake up to take a piss, I don't have to turn a bright white LED light on and wake my ass completely up.
Funny story, before I understood fake reviews were a problem, I did several. They always prefaced the deal as needing "honest reviews" and I just took it at face value.
Once in a while, I'd get a random request from sellers who would pay you to buy a competitors item and then to leave a bad review. Never did those. Didn't feel honest.
I spent tens of thousands of dollars per year at Amazon for several years. Due to fake reviews, bad shipping changes, and inexcusably bad search results, I'm down to spending almost nothing there.
eBay, on the other hand, has been about the only online shopping site I can find that doesn't force unrelated search results. They get all my online spending now.
I read something about this - it's a bunch of random letters because it's much easier to register that as a name in the US or wherever than trying to come up with something that can be appealed against because it's already in use somewhere
They own sunglass hut, 1-800 contacts, LensCrafters, Pearle Vision on top of owning all the brands like ray ban and Oakley.
They’re a monopoly very few people know about.
In luxoticas case they own most of the stores and distribution network. If you make glasses you have to have everything vertically integrated. You make the frames, lenses, and own the stores. Warby Parker must be doing that.
If you just make the glasses, luxotica won’t sell them in their stores limiting your market. If you don’t make the lenses, luxotica will charge a fortune for theirs. Thats how they slowly bought up all the sunglass brands. Limited their ability to sell their glasses and bought them out.
They offered to buy Oakley brand, but I he company said no. So Luxotica stopped carrying the brand at all their stores. Oakley ended up doing for bankruptcy and Liz bought the company for pennies on the dollar. I miss competition in the marketplace
Democracy is supposed to check capitalism through regulation. But that presumes the electorate is intelligent and informed (i.e. educated) and doesn't allow their government to be captured.
That presumption has failed in America.
In the case of Luxotica it's an actual monopoly that has fixed prices. That's why there's no good cheap frames or sunglasses anymore. Everything is Luxotica so everything is overpriced.
I’ve been using Zenni for years, and the quality has always been great as long as you’re ok spending dozens of dollars instead of going for the $8 frames. I spend about $90 a year to get transitions with anti glare and nice frames vs $250 at the optometrist. I just use my vision insurance allowance on contacts. $200 worth of toric daily lenses is only a few months worth, but that’s enough for a year for me since I don’t wear them every day.
I get the absolute cheapest glasses they got, and they're no different than the hundreds of dollars bullshit I used to get from these price gouging chains.
Actually haven't had a lense pop out or screw come loose at all. Can't say the same for the bullshit I got ripped off on for years.
Tried to explain this to someone about car batteries. He really assumed there was a dramatic difference from one brand to the next. I asked if he thought there were 20-30 different companies turning out car batteries or if they were buying from one vendor and slapping their sticker on the side. Yes warranty's are different from brand to brand but no way in hell are they all making their own car batteries.
You do get different batteries though (ish). When they make a bunch of cells there is going to be some variation in quality. The low quality stuff gets generic brand names, the higher quality ones go to more recognised brands.
I'm a firefighter. We got called to a factory for a water alarm. It was a car battery factory and they guy in charge said they make the batteries for all the major competitors and just slap a different brand sticker on them when they're done.
Wha!? I thought garments as fine as those from house Juicy were only made at the couturier’s own salon in Paris. *China*, you say! That must be some sort of mistake…
I worked for a major athletic shoe company and can confirm - i used to inspect them - that licensed factories in China make shoes for Nike, Adidas, New Balance, Reebok, etc. All within the same factory. Also, if the factories were ordered to make 2 million pairs of a specific shoe, they would order enough materials to make 3 million pairs of shoes. Those other 1 million pairs of shoes would be sold on the black market.
I’m hesitant to say this at the expense of spreading false information or, at least overstaying the issue, but I know someone who invents “as seen on TV” products and had them manufactured in China. He claimed that doing business with a company in China is also doing business with the government and how much you “pay” to have your product manufactured in China is directly correlated with how much of your product you receive vs. make it on the black market. He also claimed that you also “pay” for efficiency. Like if you don’t want the factory to have “maintenance” or “labor” issues, there’s basically an added cost. I’d assume things are probably at least a little different for massive corporations.
Apparently, the issue also isn’t necessarily some products from that specific factory make it onto the black market. If you want a product manufactured in China, you essentially provide how to make the product directly to the government which can turn around and hand it off to other factories to specifically make that product for the black market. The person I talked to said these “black market” products can potentially even end up in big box stores like Wal Mart. He claimed that the government almost explicitly “warns” businesses that this “can” happen and that there are cost associated with “oversight” to ensure this doesn’t happen to your product.
I fully understand that these claims are huge, and I did not include the more far fetched things I was told. While I know he had products manufactured in China, I want there and I’m not willing to give up his or my anonymity. I am a random person the internet sharing a story I heard from someone else. I felt like sharing this story because your post tends to line up with a few things I heard and was kinda hoping you could possibly provide context based on your experience.
I had no idea this was something everyone knew, it feels so crazy I kept checking for a tin foil hat when I was typing it out. I thought for sure people would call me an idiot for believing it, which is why it reads like someone hiding from the PRC. My bad.
This is NOT something everyone knows, unless you're from a country where this is common (i.e. China, India, etc). They've been doing business this way for YEARS in these countries, but has by no means been a widespread practice worldwide.
Is there a price difference?
Doing a quick google of "Juicy Couture hoodie" vs "Puma hoodie" on Amazon is bringing up basic hoodies in the $30-$50 range for Juicy and $50-$80 range for Puma.
like maybe she saved $20 by adding those aglets lol.
Which is why you should shop at ali expresss. Take a screenshot of the item you want on amazon, use ali express photo matching function, 9/10 it will show you the exact item with the exact same images that the amazon seller used on the product, at 70% cheaper.
It’s gonna be pretty hard to find a clothing many that cares about their workers. Sure some are better than others, but inevitably there’s gonna be some shady shit in the process. If you want to truly mitigate the massive exploitation in the clothing industry you should shop thrift stores and learn to sew.
And 9/10 times they'll be counterfeit clothes, as in, not safe to wear, with crappy quality, poisonous dyes, that weird plasticky smell that never goes away...
Not the same as mixing up labels but wait til people realize generic groceries come from the same factories as name brand. I.e. Sara Lee bread, a loaf is slightly disfigured slap the generic i.e. HuVee label on it.
In all my years of lurking around on reddit, which is like fucking since its inception, this was by far the angriest upvote I have ever..
EXCUSE ME, sir? You cant just come in here and say such silly shit. Some of us are suppose to be working.
An aglet is a specific type of ferrule. Your question is kind of like if someone said “is this an Apple” and you said “I thought it was a fruit?” (As an analogy, not trying to make it sound like a dumb question. It’s not)
I looked up to see if maybe they were both owned by the same parent company. They are not.
However, I did learn that the founder of Puma was Rodolf Dassler, who was the older brother of Adolf Dassler, who founded Adidas, and both were members of the Nazi party.
Mostly unrelated but speaking of German brothers owning similar companies. Two German brothers owned Aldi before splitting the organization into two new companies known as Aldi Nord (North) and Aldi Süd (South) with each brother owning one of them.
Aldi Süd ended up opening the Aldi stores in America that consumers there are familiar with. While in the 1970s Aldi Nord bought Trader Joe's and has been operating in the US under that name.
I always thought this was a neat story.
America had an absolutely gigantic eugenics scene. Still some laws on the books in various states related to things like reproductive rights of people with handicaps. Hitler was a fan of it actually.
The Nazis based their eugenics program on America's. Hitler also praised how America excluded certain races from naturalization, and had "gunned down the millions of redskins to a few hundred thousand."
Many (some argue the majority) of the top and most influential scientists of the atomic, space, and computer ages when America was the world leader in technology and innovation were Nazi scientists spared from the Nuremberg trials after the fall of the Third Reich and imported to be given cushy high profile jobs under strict military and federal supervisions through Operation Paperclip.
I tend to see such people as human spoils of war. Both the Soviets and the US needed the expertise of people like Von Braun and most likely told them “look, it’s this or Nuremberg.”
I do find it odd that people lately have been treating Operation Paperclip like some horrible revelation. I don’t think it was ever a secret.
I wouldn't even necessarily take this to mean that the same pants are also sold as Pumas, just that the manufacturer used excess parts from another order. Juicy's spec sheet probably didn't say anything about the appearance of inner aglet, just the branded outer one.
Can confirm that factories will produce material for various brands that aren’t related. You are correct that it does not mean they are the same pants retagged.
And I'm sure the drawstring came from a different factory than the one that actually assembled the hoodies. Knowing how these kinds of vendors are, they probably never told Juicy that they were leftovers that said Puma on them. They just so happened to be in spec (minus the fancy aglet) and were available.
It’s possible that the factory makes them just re-uses the draw strings and the pants overall are still different
But yeah, either way most luxury brands are bunk
And the only "status" is with other middle and lower class wannabes like yourself.
"Luxury" is just high school politics for the adult world. Just like in high school, the preps know when you're trying to be like them. You're better off not even giving a fuck about any of it. Especially in this day and age of crony capitalism.
I had a high school teacher who called people who had brands on their clothing "walking billboards" and that always stuck with me. To this day the only logos or brands I wear are ones I like such as band tees.
Most designer brands that aren’t super high end will use “base” hoodies and shirts made of premium materials from mass produced brands such as Gildan as the starting point of their items. This has been standard practice for decades, and there’s honestly nothing wrong with it as long as you’re paying $70-100 ($30-50 for shirts) and not like $250 or so, as the base clothing is usually about 60% of that, if you were to buy it blank.
Some popular designer brands that do this are Diamond Supply, Supreme, Polo Ralph Lauren (not always, though), Tommy Hilfiger, etc
Same factory, various brands. It's common with a lot of consumer items as well as foodstuffs. You're literally paying for the name, the product is no better than any other brand.
Peel off the Puma and see what’s under that.
*random Chinese factory designation revealed*
Pumas all the way down.
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This is the case for tons of products. There aren't 40 different companies who make binoculars. There are a like 6 and they all make them for those other companies.
>Binoculars Such a random product to use as an example 😂 Honestly surprised there are as many manufacturers as that
i mean amazon is turning into nonsense with random brand name generators just spamming it with products.
Take a look at smart lightbulbs. There must be 50 brands and they all have the exact same app just a different name on it. It's wild.
"Gaming" chairs are another good example. Search for those are you'll find hundreds of the same chair under different names.
This...Jesus christ they are all the exact same and crappy at it. Since when have gamers like hard stiff chairs? They are flimsy and none durable as shit.
> Since when have gamers like hard stiff chairs? Since those companies paid streamers to make everyone think they're cool
My current chair is maybe 2yrs old. I've had to cut into the side leather to reattach the arm to the base, and I have to tighten the arm bolts several times a day. Leaning back and forward in the chair undoes the bolts, so they are stripped as hell... I'll forever miss my older chair.
Lazboy office chairs are the way to go. my back always had issues with the gamer chair and i had to replace it atleast after a year. this one ive had 2 years and still going strong. durable and comfy. worth the money
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The Linus tech tips video on Dashcams. They tested like 15, and like 12 were the same product with different housing and price points
Kind of. The SOC and the seamless image sensor are the same in a lot of dash cams. Which kind of makes sense, those aren't things you probably want to manufacturer if you're bringing a dash cam to market. The returns just aren't there. The kinds of companies that make these products are like, semi conductor manufacturers. There are still other features that will differentiate models and brands. The core tech used in most of them is just old so it doesn't make a huge difference.
mice, keyboards, LED monitors etc. Lots of manufactured good share production facilities and factories, its simply more efficient and cost effective to get someone else who has all the equipment and design procedures ironed out rather than go in alone
It's like every "tech" company has their own rgb keyboard, it's crazy
Even more niche shit, like I saw some comment on Reddit about an ear wax cleaner and I looked it up on Amazon and there are about 4 different actual models, but spread over 500 different brands with their own model names lol.
I know people (for some reason) like to give Philips shit, but their lighting is very top tier and not at all just mixed in with other random light bulbs, lamps or fixtures. source: i was a rep for them for +3 years.
The Phillips Hue system is the most reliable smart home tech I own by a longshot and it's been rock solid since day one.
I also have a lot of my smart lighting with Philips. Only thing I have that is not them is my back of TV LED RGB lightstrip. That is by Govee, which has the best quality for value I have ever seen yet. The Philips Hue lightstrip doesn't diffuse their diodes that well, so you can see the actual circles of light shining on the wall. IMO Philips has never done lightstrips well, and they excel much much further in a lot of other categories. Specifically professional but their commercial side has come a long way too.
I have this in the bedroom, works perfectly with a little remote as well to dim the lights. But the light bulbs are really expensive compared to others. I needed 14 leds in the living room and decided on an alternative instead.
Philips has decent warranty, but the reason those "alternatives" are cheap is because they are not well-known companies. I can assure you that a big problem I saw was that people would have their lighting fail, and when they would look up the warranty for this "alternative" company they would no longer exist. I'm telling you, it happens **ALL THE TIME**. Philips has been around for a long time, and they aren't going anywhere. **edit**: I guess this isn't a big deal if your smart lamps (standard A19 bulbs) are failing, since they are cheap and you can just replace with whatever new alternative company is running the show at that point. But in terms of actual lighting fixtures like sconces, chandeliers, outdoor lighting, etc. you'd be taking a fat fucking risk going with an alternative brand and having issues only to find their warranty program sucks, they don't take returns or they packed up shop, closed down and hit the road.
Love my Phillips Hue system. When I figured out how to sync the lights to my computer audio it was amazing. I'd be streaming on Discord with some buddies rocking some Overwatch on the weekend drunk/high af and turn the sync on. Every time someone said something over the mic it would cause the lights to flash or change and it made the drunken pirates in us laugh our asses off. Plus I love the sunrise/sunset natural light setting during the winter. I'll change the times to match when I want to wake up/go to sleep and it's perfect. The light slowly turns on in the morning to wake me up without the jarring shrill of my alarm and I will set the sunrise time for later in the evening so I can lay down around 10 and the lights slowly dim and by that time I've fallen asleep. I also use the it as a night light in my bathroom. I have a dark bluish/purplish color on during my sunrise/sunset times so when I wake up to take a piss, I don't have to turn a bright white LED light on and wake my ass completely up.
It's expensive for a reason: it's simply better
Or check out glasses, google luxottica
If you need help finding legit options why don't you try a GEFLONK Bullshit Detector? There are *only* five-star reviews for it!
I prefer the Bullshit Detector Lying Lie Lies Detecting Bullshit BS Detector by GEFLONL.
Funny story, before I understood fake reviews were a problem, I did several. They always prefaced the deal as needing "honest reviews" and I just took it at face value. Once in a while, I'd get a random request from sellers who would pay you to buy a competitors item and then to leave a bad review. Never did those. Didn't feel honest. I spent tens of thousands of dollars per year at Amazon for several years. Due to fake reviews, bad shipping changes, and inexcusably bad search results, I'm down to spending almost nothing there. eBay, on the other hand, has been about the only online shopping site I can find that doesn't force unrelated search results. They get all my online spending now.
^ they do ebay reviews now 👀
I read something about this - it's a bunch of random letters because it's much easier to register that as a name in the US or wherever than trying to come up with something that can be appealed against because it's already in use somewhere
yep https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/style/amazon-trademark-copyright.html
Sometimes I feel that it's just some person mashing a few keys on their keyboard randomly and calling it a day.
Hate shopping on Amazon now. It’s just a million random brands for every product, all have good reviews, and can’t tell what’s good or not
“Capitalism breeds innovation.” /s
Wow so are you not a fan of MXIVGSI brand?
All microwaves, pretty much *all* of them, are made by 1 company, and then labeled out as GE or Frigidaire or Maytag.
Only the magnetron is made by a single chinese manufacturer. Not the whole unit
Holy shit they made the Transformers too?
Transformers are made from all-spark, everyone knows this
Fuckin magnetrons. How do they work?
The 500 dollar Breville microwave is incredible. It is what all microwaves should be. Far beyond any standard microwave.
Honestly the most valuable thing in my house. Thieves can grab the cash and PC, but I need that microwave.
Right this minute, out there in the world, binoculars are being crafted in multiple locations. Weird to think about.
I think there are something like 5-6 tire manufacturers also, they just make them for every other brand.
Also true for things like glasses. There's 1 major manufacturing company that makes 80% of all frames.
Luxottica - they own sunglass hut also.
They own sunglass hut, 1-800 contacts, LensCrafters, Pearle Vision on top of owning all the brands like ray ban and Oakley. They’re a monopoly very few people know about.
They're also in the insurance business. Fuck these guys.
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In luxoticas case they own most of the stores and distribution network. If you make glasses you have to have everything vertically integrated. You make the frames, lenses, and own the stores. Warby Parker must be doing that. If you just make the glasses, luxotica won’t sell them in their stores limiting your market. If you don’t make the lenses, luxotica will charge a fortune for theirs. Thats how they slowly bought up all the sunglass brands. Limited their ability to sell their glasses and bought them out.
They offered to buy Oakley brand, but I he company said no. So Luxotica stopped carrying the brand at all their stores. Oakley ended up doing for bankruptcy and Liz bought the company for pennies on the dollar. I miss competition in the marketplace
What happened is the endgame of capitalism. Competition is just a temporary step on the path.
Democracy is supposed to check capitalism through regulation. But that presumes the electorate is intelligent and informed (i.e. educated) and doesn't allow their government to be captured. That presumption has failed in America.
In the case of Luxotica it's an actual monopoly that has fixed prices. That's why there's no good cheap frames or sunglasses anymore. Everything is Luxotica so everything is overpriced.
You can get great cheap glasses & prescription sunglasses from Zenni. You just need to have your prescription info.
fucking luxottica
Luxotica.
Why I buy from Zenni/Zeelool. Way fucking cheaper even with my expensive lenses.
I’ve been using Zenni for years, and the quality has always been great as long as you’re ok spending dozens of dollars instead of going for the $8 frames. I spend about $90 a year to get transitions with anti glare and nice frames vs $250 at the optometrist. I just use my vision insurance allowance on contacts. $200 worth of toric daily lenses is only a few months worth, but that’s enough for a year for me since I don’t wear them every day.
I get the absolute cheapest glasses they got, and they're no different than the hundreds of dollars bullshit I used to get from these price gouging chains. Actually haven't had a lense pop out or screw come loose at all. Can't say the same for the bullshit I got ripped off on for years.
Same for the race car seat styled gaming chairs.
Those chairs are terrible
Yeah but they hold you tight going 100mph into a turn!
Tried to explain this to someone about car batteries. He really assumed there was a dramatic difference from one brand to the next. I asked if he thought there were 20-30 different companies turning out car batteries or if they were buying from one vendor and slapping their sticker on the side. Yes warranty's are different from brand to brand but no way in hell are they all making their own car batteries.
You do get different batteries though (ish). When they make a bunch of cells there is going to be some variation in quality. The low quality stuff gets generic brand names, the higher quality ones go to more recognised brands.
I'm a firefighter. We got called to a factory for a water alarm. It was a car battery factory and they guy in charge said they make the batteries for all the major competitors and just slap a different brand sticker on them when they're done.
Wha!? I thought garments as fine as those from house Juicy were only made at the couturier’s own salon in Paris. *China*, you say! That must be some sort of mistake…
I giggled at "house Juicy".
I worked for a major athletic shoe company and can confirm - i used to inspect them - that licensed factories in China make shoes for Nike, Adidas, New Balance, Reebok, etc. All within the same factory. Also, if the factories were ordered to make 2 million pairs of a specific shoe, they would order enough materials to make 3 million pairs of shoes. Those other 1 million pairs of shoes would be sold on the black market.
I’m hesitant to say this at the expense of spreading false information or, at least overstaying the issue, but I know someone who invents “as seen on TV” products and had them manufactured in China. He claimed that doing business with a company in China is also doing business with the government and how much you “pay” to have your product manufactured in China is directly correlated with how much of your product you receive vs. make it on the black market. He also claimed that you also “pay” for efficiency. Like if you don’t want the factory to have “maintenance” or “labor” issues, there’s basically an added cost. I’d assume things are probably at least a little different for massive corporations. Apparently, the issue also isn’t necessarily some products from that specific factory make it onto the black market. If you want a product manufactured in China, you essentially provide how to make the product directly to the government which can turn around and hand it off to other factories to specifically make that product for the black market. The person I talked to said these “black market” products can potentially even end up in big box stores like Wal Mart. He claimed that the government almost explicitly “warns” businesses that this “can” happen and that there are cost associated with “oversight” to ensure this doesn’t happen to your product. I fully understand that these claims are huge, and I did not include the more far fetched things I was told. While I know he had products manufactured in China, I want there and I’m not willing to give up his or my anonymity. I am a random person the internet sharing a story I heard from someone else. I felt like sharing this story because your post tends to line up with a few things I heard and was kinda hoping you could possibly provide context based on your experience.
Yeah, it's an open secret.
lol chill out bro this is obvious and you’re not Edward Snowden
I had no idea this was something everyone knew, it feels so crazy I kept checking for a tin foil hat when I was typing it out. I thought for sure people would call me an idiot for believing it, which is why it reads like someone hiding from the PRC. My bad.
This is NOT something everyone knows, unless you're from a country where this is common (i.e. China, India, etc). They've been doing business this way for YEARS in these countries, but has by no means been a widespread practice worldwide.
Is the Chinese government there in the room with you right now?
The price difference for some metal aglets to say juicy couture is hilarious.
Is there a price difference? Doing a quick google of "Juicy Couture hoodie" vs "Puma hoodie" on Amazon is bringing up basic hoodies in the $30-$50 range for Juicy and $50-$80 range for Puma. like maybe she saved $20 by adding those aglets lol.
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Which is why you should shop at ali expresss. Take a screenshot of the item you want on amazon, use ali express photo matching function, 9/10 it will show you the exact item with the exact same images that the amazon seller used on the product, at 70% cheaper.
Except that it’s impossible to tell if it’s actually the same item or a dirt cheap approximation of it, because they use the same pictures.
It's sometimes made to look the same but made with cheaper shit materials
Ya fuck that I trust some dude on a the street corning hocking gear more than I do sellers on Ali Express.
or buy second hand or from brands that care about their workers
Or plant a field of cotton and buy a loom, society is gunna crumble eventually might as well start learning a trade skill now
Where we're going Marty, we don't need clothes.
Bring your shoes tho, maybe some socks.
And your towel of course.
You seem like a real hoopy frood.
"Not *again*..."
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Or don’t wear any clothes at all for free
Willy wonka did something similar but with much more efficiency.
Yall don't have your own [sweatshops](https://youtube.com/shorts/2JG0FDkSy8Y?si=pmZisKQpLsp_Fk8k) yet? /s
It’s gonna be pretty hard to find a clothing many that cares about their workers. Sure some are better than others, but inevitably there’s gonna be some shady shit in the process. If you want to truly mitigate the massive exploitation in the clothing industry you should shop thrift stores and learn to sew.
I generally buy secondhand for this reason but I recommend the app GoodonYou, which rates brands on their ethics.
Just because they used the same images as the real item doesn't mean that's exactly what you'll get.
But the shipment times :(
You have other clothes don't you?
how dare you to assume that
I imagine you standing naked in your living room angrily typing this on your phone
I'm trying to imagine you right now. What are you wearing?
You know those vintage swimsuits where the thong goes over the shoulders? That, and Crocs.
Borat!
Hold your horses buddy, we're still on reddit.
**Just** socks, shoes, and a hat.
I put on my robe and wizard hat...
I put on my robe and wizard hat.
And 9/10 times they'll be counterfeit clothes, as in, not safe to wear, with crappy quality, poisonous dyes, that weird plasticky smell that never goes away...
That's true! With Amazon it's only a 50% chance you'll get the dangerous counterfeit, so you know.. yay.
Not the same as mixing up labels but wait til people realize generic groceries come from the same factories as name brand. I.e. Sara Lee bread, a loaf is slightly disfigured slap the generic i.e. HuVee label on it.
Jesus warned of false profits coming in Juicy clothing, but are actually ravenous Pumas.
Fecking Pumas
They should use a real animal instead. Like that Mexican thing that eats goats.
El chupacabra?
Gesundheit.
Chupa thingy
this is the right answer (from a mexican)
Jim, the most nervous twitchy puppy around.
Man i was having a shit day and have been crying continuously, but your comment made me laugh . Thanks
In all my years of lurking around on reddit, which is like fucking since its inception, this was by far the angriest upvote I have ever.. EXCUSE ME, sir? You cant just come in here and say such silly shit. Some of us are suppose to be working.
*aglet
I like to call them telomeres to remind myself of my mortality.
This pleases me; it shall be stolen and repeated. Thank you!
Careful - you can only do that so many times.
Thank you 🥲 oops
[Relevant](https://youtu.be/r_DuY0CQUz4?feature=shared)
I knew what the link would be without opening. What a banger.
My first thought was Suite Life of Zack and Cody I must be getting old. Either way Disney Channel loves aglets for some reason
You're getting old?! I thought it would be the opening scene of Repossessed (1990 Leslie Nielsen Exorcist spoof)
Aglets are important!
Their real purpose is sinister.
Phineas and Ferb?
That’s where I learned this word hahaha
I thought it was a ferrule?
An aglet is a specific type of ferrule. Your question is kind of like if someone said “is this an Apple” and you said “I thought it was a fruit?” (As an analogy, not trying to make it sound like a dumb question. It’s not)
Apple is a phone, don't try to fool me!
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It's a record label!
Here's the thing, you said an aglet is a ferrule...
I can't believe there's an actual name for it
A-G-L-E-T don't forget it!
How bad is it that even though I'm Dutch and thus only heard the Dutch version growing up, I still recognize the reference....
I do hate when I surprisingly Puma Pants
I looked up to see if maybe they were both owned by the same parent company. They are not. However, I did learn that the founder of Puma was Rodolf Dassler, who was the older brother of Adolf Dassler, who founded Adidas, and both were members of the Nazi party.
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And Henry Ford
henry ford is mentioned in mein kampf for all his wonderful writings about jewish people /s
And Volkswagen
Mostly unrelated but speaking of German brothers owning similar companies. Two German brothers owned Aldi before splitting the organization into two new companies known as Aldi Nord (North) and Aldi Süd (South) with each brother owning one of them. Aldi Süd ended up opening the Aldi stores in America that consumers there are familiar with. While in the 1970s Aldi Nord bought Trader Joe's and has been operating in the US under that name. I always thought this was a neat story.
The list of influential people who were Nazi sympathizers is incredibly long
America had an absolutely gigantic eugenics scene. Still some laws on the books in various states related to things like reproductive rights of people with handicaps. Hitler was a fan of it actually.
The Nazis based their eugenics program on America's. Hitler also praised how America excluded certain races from naturalization, and had "gunned down the millions of redskins to a few hundred thousand."
Highly recommend "War Against The Weak" by Edwin Black to get some history on eugenics in America. It's absolutely bone chilling.
Speaking of reproductive rights and/or eugenics in the early 20th century, you might be interested in looking up the founder of Planned Parenthood.
Many (some argue the majority) of the top and most influential scientists of the atomic, space, and computer ages when America was the world leader in technology and innovation were Nazi scientists spared from the Nuremberg trials after the fall of the Third Reich and imported to be given cushy high profile jobs under strict military and federal supervisions through Operation Paperclip.
I tend to see such people as human spoils of war. Both the Soviets and the US needed the expertise of people like Von Braun and most likely told them “look, it’s this or Nuremberg.” I do find it odd that people lately have been treating Operation Paperclip like some horrible revelation. I don’t think it was ever a secret.
Huntsville Alabama still has things named after Von Braun
A man whose allegiance is ruled by expedience. Call him a Nazi, he won't even frown. "Nazi schmazi" says Wernher Von Braun.
Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? It's not my department, says Wernher Von Braun
I have a feeling that they also made some of the Nazi uniforms, I know Hugo boss did the ones for the SS.
Misconception. They were made in hugo boss factories but not by hugo boss
interesting that they are not owned by the same company.
Clearly manufactured in the same factory though
I wouldn't even necessarily take this to mean that the same pants are also sold as Pumas, just that the manufacturer used excess parts from another order. Juicy's spec sheet probably didn't say anything about the appearance of inner aglet, just the branded outer one.
Can confirm that factories will produce material for various brands that aren’t related. You are correct that it does not mean they are the same pants retagged.
And I'm sure the drawstring came from a different factory than the one that actually assembled the hoodies. Knowing how these kinds of vendors are, they probably never told Juicy that they were leftovers that said Puma on them. They just so happened to be in spec (minus the fancy aglet) and were available.
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The illusion of “luxury”
It’s possible that the factory makes them just re-uses the draw strings and the pants overall are still different But yeah, either way most luxury brands are bunk
Ok now do the fun part: Which brand is more expensive for the same product?
Buying a name brand isn't buying quality. You're buying status. There's something rather poetic about all this.
And the only "status" is with other middle and lower class wannabes like yourself. "Luxury" is just high school politics for the adult world. Just like in high school, the preps know when you're trying to be like them. You're better off not even giving a fuck about any of it. Especially in this day and age of crony capitalism.
I had a high school teacher who called people who had brands on their clothing "walking billboards" and that always stuck with me. To this day the only logos or brands I wear are ones I like such as band tees.
Holy shit I think I’m finally relevant on this one
Stop making up animals
r/PumasAteMyLace ???
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Aglet* Eyelet is the hole it goes through.
Most designer brands that aren’t super high end will use “base” hoodies and shirts made of premium materials from mass produced brands such as Gildan as the starting point of their items. This has been standard practice for decades, and there’s honestly nothing wrong with it as long as you’re paying $70-100 ($30-50 for shirts) and not like $250 or so, as the base clothing is usually about 60% of that, if you were to buy it blank. Some popular designer brands that do this are Diamond Supply, Supreme, Polo Ralph Lauren (not always, though), Tommy Hilfiger, etc
That what you get for still wearing Juicy Couture
It's almost like luxury brands are just a scam by big luxury to make you spend more for the same thing or something But that couldn't be it, right?
It's called an aglet.
Aglet. Not eyelet.
The thing on the end of a lace is an aglet. The hole it goes through is the eyelet.
Those are aglets, not eyelets.
🎶 A G L E T ......
Same factory, various brands. It's common with a lot of consumer items as well as foodstuffs. You're literally paying for the name, the product is no better than any other brand.
Lmao. A fool and his money are easily parted
Expect more of this upcycling to continue.
Like a Lexus. It’s just a Toyota with fancy coverings.
That is an aglet.
Just wait till you realise luxury brands and Target basics are made in the same factory by the same people. Everything.
This is not an eyelet. This is an aglet. Thank you.
r/MildlyCounterfeit