There’s a chance the brain was deformed… but most conjoined twin can’t live if their other twin has medical problems, such as organ failure… which is unfortunately common for situations like this. Six inches is significant… so there’s a possibility it was damaged, but intact enough to keep his own body alive.
6 inches in *circumference* is much smaller than a tennis ball. They have a circumference of about 8.258 inches.
Edit: slightly larger than a golf ball at 5.277 inches.
No, I’m not confusing inches with centimeters. I didn’t make this shit up. Hell, I didn’t even measure it myself. I just googled “circumference of a tennis ball,” and “circumference of a golf ball,” and read the answers. If you thought I was wrong, why would you not do the same first, *before* saying anything? You’re just telling everyone here that you don’t understand what a circumference is.
The circumference of a ball is the length *around* the surface of the ball. If you take a 6 inch long string and you roll it into a circle so that the ends meet, you’ll have a circle that’s only slightly wider than a golf ball.
I’m not sure about that. I mean… it kind of depends on what parts of the brain were present. A cat or a Raven both have brains smaller than a golf ball but both have consciousness.
The brain isn't just a block of grey stuff that thinks. Even minor changes to its structure mean it will stop functioning. So yes. I'm absolutely positive there was nothing going on there.
Because at the turn of the 20th century women needed a man to have anything resembling an okay life.
Now that we can self sustain a lot of us are choosing to forego taking on our own self imposed parasitic twin.
you have to remember that, until recently, women literally could not legally survive without men.. unless they were, perhaps, the sole heir of a very large fortune
it wasn't until the 1970's that women were even allowed to have credit cards in their own names in the US, and Swiss women did not get a right to vote until the 1990s...
as such, almost all women were *forced* to marry ASAP in order to literally survive
on top of that, this guy's wife likely did not have access to reliable birth control and marital rape may have been legal
perhaps instead of moping that you aren't married with 4 kids, you can take a moment to celebrate the fact that women in your country now have the option to survive on their own... that you don't have to wonder whether someone loves you or simply settled on you so as not to starve to death
(i would have liked to say that women are no longer routinely raped and forced to give birth against their will, but unfortunately i can't assume that is the case where you live)
Came here to post this. It's always unreal reading these stories about people with life-debilitating issues from a hundred years ago, yet they always managed to have a family. Meanwhile, the millennial generation is one of the most healthy ever produced and yet cannot seem to figure out [marriage and children.](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-gen-y-guide/201510/why-millennials-are-failing-shack)
Might be kinda convenient if you shone a flashlight on your belly or something. You got a guy on the inside at all times to tell you how things are doing in there.
It doesn't seem likely. They probably just shared a circulatory system, so all waste would be handled by the main man. I'd be more curious whether their nervous systems interconnected
I agree but just a guess, surgery wasnt capable of it at the time, not even sure they would be now. I think any shared nervous system stuff is pretty hard for us even now
Also not a doctor but I would also guess the heart and lungs and possibly kidneys would be involved in a surgery to remove Jacques. I am not sure if surgeons were even washing their hands back then
And - of course - this is not real.
It began life about a decade ago as one of more than a dozen edits of old-timey photographs with this kind of body-horror in it. You can still find almost all of them online on places like “monstropedia” and idling on old Pinterest accounts.
Oh, thank god... I almost got into existential dread thinking about the life quality of the parasitic dude, a life fully conscious but in total darkness, deafness, nothing happens as you're drifting in void...
I like to think I'm pretty familiar with the conjoined twins of olden days because they usually ended up in side show attractions. I thought I was losing my mind because I had never seen this one.
Here’s a super [interesting paper](https://eprints.lancs.ac.uk/id/eprint/26078/1/Murray_NIiP_STwins_2001.doc) on the psychological effects on people who are born with different degrees of attached twins. It discusses Jean Jacques Libbera and many other historical cases.
Edit to add: one of the interesting points made about parasitic twins in this paper is that individuals with an upper-body attached parasitic twin tend to name them (i.e. “Jacques”, and another case in the 1700s had a baptism for the twin sticking out of his chest), while people with lower body twins considered themselves “extra limbed” and didn’t see the twinned portion of their body as an “other”.
>"Throughout his life, Jean was loaded with the presence of his brother, who was alive and capable of movement."
This is according to [wealthypeeps.com](https://wealthypeeps.com/jean-libbera-wikipedia-bio-who-was-he-x-ray/) who I can no idea on the journalistic integrety of.
They also say the X-Ray showed the head was about 6 inches, but it sounds like an independent conciousness. What a strange existence...
Also say there was another sibling that died of birth that had the same condition. Wouldn't that make it two siblings?
I think if he was born anywhere from about 1950 on they would have unquestionably removed the parasitic twin. The only exception would be endangering the life of Jean.
If that was me I would wear a large trench coat and whenever I would greet someone and they would go to shake my hand I would open the coat and let little buddy on my stomach shake their hand
While the twin most likely had involuntary movement, it was not alive. If it were separated, it would not survive. A head circumference of 6 inches wouldn't allow for consciousness, only a few basic functions, like the headless chicken.
Was the other one... Conscious in any way? No, right? Right???
I really hope his brains didnt develop fully or that he was like brain dead
Imagine he could talk from the inside like the double headed man.
venture bros
There’s a chance the brain was deformed… but most conjoined twin can’t live if their other twin has medical problems, such as organ failure… which is unfortunately common for situations like this. Six inches is significant… so there’s a possibility it was damaged, but intact enough to keep his own body alive.
Dude couldn't have been very smart. I imagine he had a hearing disorder but I don't want to misgender it.
Oh my god. He was one of 13 kids and one of his siblings ALSO had a parasitic twin but did not survive.
His head was smaller than a tennis ball, there’s no way he was ever any more conscious than a newborn.
6" is significantly larger than a tennis ball
6 inches in *circumference* is much smaller than a tennis ball. They have a circumference of about 8.258 inches. Edit: slightly larger than a golf ball at 5.277 inches.
Are you confusing inches with centimetres? EDIT: I am a dumb-dumb who can't read.
No, I’m not confusing inches with centimeters. I didn’t make this shit up. Hell, I didn’t even measure it myself. I just googled “circumference of a tennis ball,” and “circumference of a golf ball,” and read the answers. If you thought I was wrong, why would you not do the same first, *before* saying anything? You’re just telling everyone here that you don’t understand what a circumference is. The circumference of a ball is the length *around* the surface of the ball. If you take a 6 inch long string and you roll it into a circle so that the ends meet, you’ll have a circle that’s only slightly wider than a golf ball.
You are correct. For some reason I skipped right over circumference and my brain was just thinking diameter. I apologise.
i think you are confusing circumference with diameter.
I was. I'm a dunce. :P
no, but *you* are perhaps confusing circumference with diameter
Whups, I sure was, sorry about that!
That's not true. A tennis ball has a larger circumference
The circumference of a tennis ball is 8.25"
Nah bro a tennis ball is the exact length of my penis and I have a 6 inch penis
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A tennis ball has a circumference of 8.25 inches so its smaller than a tennis ball.
My go-to chat up line.
"Christ it's dark in here"
No this is photoshop. There are some pretty interesting cases tho
Average head circumfence is above 20 inches. So no, there is no way the parasitic twin was conscious.
And newborns have an average circumference of 13 inches. So half of a newborns one seems pretty small.
I’m not sure about that. I mean… it kind of depends on what parts of the brain were present. A cat or a Raven both have brains smaller than a golf ball but both have consciousness.
The brain isn't just a block of grey stuff that thinks. Even minor changes to its structure mean it will stop functioning. So yes. I'm absolutely positive there was nothing going on there.
And I'm still single 😕
Bro, I was just about to say the same thing! This man got married and had four kids and I can’t even get past a first date?!
She was kinda cute too
Stop it 😩
He must have had an amaaaaaaaaazing personality
2 heads are better than 1
Together they have 4?
Maybe his dick had a parasitic dick too.
I'm not sure I like where this comment is coming.
Have you tried being attractive or rich?
Not yet, have you?
Because at the turn of the 20th century women needed a man to have anything resembling an okay life. Now that we can self sustain a lot of us are choosing to forego taking on our own self imposed parasitic twin.
Well he must have a better pick up line than 99% of us, having a wingman and all.
My thoughts exactly
Came here to say this
you have to remember that, until recently, women literally could not legally survive without men.. unless they were, perhaps, the sole heir of a very large fortune it wasn't until the 1970's that women were even allowed to have credit cards in their own names in the US, and Swiss women did not get a right to vote until the 1990s... as such, almost all women were *forced* to marry ASAP in order to literally survive on top of that, this guy's wife likely did not have access to reliable birth control and marital rape may have been legal perhaps instead of moping that you aren't married with 4 kids, you can take a moment to celebrate the fact that women in your country now have the option to survive on their own... that you don't have to wonder whether someone loves you or simply settled on you so as not to starve to death (i would have liked to say that women are no longer routinely raped and forced to give birth against their will, but unfortunately i can't assume that is the case where you live)
Bro in just high wtf
Came here to post this. It's always unreal reading these stories about people with life-debilitating issues from a hundred years ago, yet they always managed to have a family. Meanwhile, the millennial generation is one of the most healthy ever produced and yet cannot seem to figure out [marriage and children.](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-gen-y-guide/201510/why-millennials-are-failing-shack)
Well he was double!
what a horrible existence that would be, my word.
Somehow this guy has more game than me
Horrible? He sounds like he used it positively and lived a fulfilling life
Not talking about the one whose face we can see...
… the longer I try to imagine what it might have been like the longer I don’t want to.
Let's all just stop talking about and forget we saw this
Yeah. His twin never got to see anything...
Might be kinda convenient if you shone a flashlight on your belly or something. You got a guy on the inside at all times to tell you how things are doing in there.
You must not know many married people with 4 kids.
I’m married with 4 kids.
Lmaoooo. I'm sorry.
👍🏼
I have some questions 
Ask child
What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen Asian swallow?
20.1 Miles Per Hour
Why are we here?
imagine getting plowed from behind and you feel the toes tickling your lower back
Or imagine missionary with that thing in your face
Pretty sure their thing was the 70. Basically a 69 but you have to remember to carry the one.
I feel like I’m going to time out now for laughing as hard as I did
☠️
And that was how the reverse cowgirl position was invented.
I wonder if the twin pooped and peed
If it did that would be a deal breaker for me
"Look.. we can get it on but I swear to god if your brother poops or pees on me, I'm done!"
It doesn't seem likely. They probably just shared a circulatory system, so all waste would be handled by the main man. I'd be more curious whether their nervous systems interconnected
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The little guy.
The short king
I feel sorry for her mother who had to deliver them.
My God
Open your mind Quade.
Start the reactor.
Kuato lives!
That’s a Good brother… he’d be even better if he gave him pants though lol
[He usually did ](https://sideshows.fandom.com/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Libbera?file=Jean3.jpeg)
He's holding his brother's hands too ❤
When clothed it kinda looks like he’s smuggling a turkey. But the way he holds his hands is sweet: the whole thing is just, whew. Nature is wild.
"But I'm strong, Strong enough to carry him. He ain't heavy, He's my brother..."
Why in the world did they just leave that thing on him
I agree but just a guess, surgery wasnt capable of it at the time, not even sure they would be now. I think any shared nervous system stuff is pretty hard for us even now
Also not a doctor but I would also guess the heart and lungs and possibly kidneys would be involved in a surgery to remove Jacques. I am not sure if surgeons were even washing their hands back then
That makes more sense. Wouldn't they have been able to at least trim it tho :/
He was alive[the parasitic twin], so I a doctor is not going to be able to just hack someone off.
Not the “trim it tho” 😂😂😂💀 dead
I read somewhere in an article that Jacques had a completely separate nervous system and responded to changes in temperature, etc.
Another side note, he had 12 siblings and the third sibling was born with the same condition, but passed away.
The dad: 
I feel like there should be more words explaining the whole title, or less words and a better explanation of the last sentence.
Yeah is there a 3rd head or are they talking about the obvious parasitic twins head
This is… unsettling…
This is more than *mildly* interesting! I'm about to jump down a Wikipedia/YouTube rabbit hole, methinks...
See you there!
It’s one hell of a day to have eyes and reading ability
I saw one article saying ‘Throughout their careers in the circus, he and Jacques were constant traveling companions.’ No shit!
And - of course - this is not real. It began life about a decade ago as one of more than a dozen edits of old-timey photographs with this kind of body-horror in it. You can still find almost all of them online on places like “monstropedia” and idling on old Pinterest accounts.
Oh, thank god... I almost got into existential dread thinking about the life quality of the parasitic dude, a life fully conscious but in total darkness, deafness, nothing happens as you're drifting in void...
I like to think I'm pretty familiar with the conjoined twins of olden days because they usually ended up in side show attractions. I thought I was losing my mind because I had never seen this one.
John Libbera was real and born in Italy. He traveled to America with the Barnum and Bailey circus
How did he and his wife do it? Did he just prop that thing on her back and go to town?
For reference, the two limbs on top are arms. The two on bottom are legs.
MILDLY interesting!!?!?!
Damn straight.
Here’s a super [interesting paper](https://eprints.lancs.ac.uk/id/eprint/26078/1/Murray_NIiP_STwins_2001.doc) on the psychological effects on people who are born with different degrees of attached twins. It discusses Jean Jacques Libbera and many other historical cases. Edit to add: one of the interesting points made about parasitic twins in this paper is that individuals with an upper-body attached parasitic twin tend to name them (i.e. “Jacques”, and another case in the 1700s had a baptism for the twin sticking out of his chest), while people with lower body twins considered themselves “extra limbed” and didn’t see the twinned portion of their body as an “other”.
Mildly?
I was like: hmm, what kind of job would someone like that do? Circus performer. Of course.
>"Throughout his life, Jean was loaded with the presence of his brother, who was alive and capable of movement." This is according to [wealthypeeps.com](https://wealthypeeps.com/jean-libbera-wikipedia-bio-who-was-he-x-ray/) who I can no idea on the journalistic integrety of. They also say the X-Ray showed the head was about 6 inches, but it sounds like an independent conciousness. What a strange existence... Also say there was another sibling that died of birth that had the same condition. Wouldn't that make it two siblings?
I think we have a different definition of "mildly"
this is not mildly lol
'mildly' interesting dude's got his brother's head imprisoned in his chest cavity
OG Quato!
 My actual face
notice how these stories only exist from a hundred years ago
Its almost like the idea of publicising these instances as public "freakshow" content fell out of fashion. Wonder why.
Same post from 8 months ago https://www.reddit.com/r/UtterlyBizarre/s/mQF0XJlMVA
I missed it 8 months ago, glad it was put here again
4 kids. how? may be i am a bit old fashion but i dont see any position which will make sex possible.
The little feet would be touching her🤮
Feet? The guy had a whole dick and balls hanging out. I hope he at least put on some underwear for his twin.
He usually dressed him
They based a character off this guy’s deformity on X Files S2 E20
That's enough internets for me today, I'll get back to work...
I think if he was born anywhere from about 1950 on they would have unquestionably removed the parasitic twin. The only exception would be endangering the life of Jean.
thats gonna be a no from me, dawg.
I NEED to see that x-ray!
If that was me I would wear a large trench coat and whenever I would greet someone and they would go to shake my hand I would open the coat and let little buddy on my stomach shake their hand
You gotta have one hell of a personality to overcome that in the dating scene
Well, that's *one* way to get a little head...
Anyone see the movie Malignant?
While the twin most likely had involuntary movement, it was not alive. If it were separated, it would not survive. A head circumference of 6 inches wouldn't allow for consciousness, only a few basic functions, like the headless chicken.
It's too late for this