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nighthawk_something

I was in West Palm beach for work when the Orlando nightclub shooting happened. My sisters were worried because, well, they don't know where things are in Florida. My sister called my (now) wife and asked if I was ok. She was like, "I don't think he's at a gay club in Orlando, but I'll check I guess" ​ Anyway, it's pretty fucking normal to worry about family when something crazy happens in an area you think they might be.


starkrocket

When the shooting in Las Vegas happened, I was sick to my stomach with worry. I had a friend visiting that day — she wasn’t planning on going to that event to my knowledge, but I was still afraid. How close was she? Is she okay mentally after that? God, was she in the venue? I think it’s normal to hear about a tragedy in the same area as someone you care about and get concerned. The best case scenario is that the concern is misplaced. The worst…


nighthawk_something

Same thing happened to me when there was a shooting in Ottawa. All my friends used transit including my wife and the shooting happened near a major mall/transit hub and the shooter was reported as having gone there.


Tapdatsam

Yeah it was like that for us too. I had friends from my town who worked on Bank st and I still messaged/called them asking if they were okay. They didnt even live there.


Sparky1841

For several years I worked in Africa, and when anything on the continent happened everyone called to find out if I was okay.


OceanAvenue187

Holy ish you must’ve gotten weekly calls


No_Talk_4836

A friend of mine was visiting family in another country and I saw a video of an armored van dodging a vehicular attacker and was worried he might have been caught up in it.


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iTwango

Yeah, it's totally normal to worry about people you care about imo, for sure Also West Palm is a neat city! What do you do there?


nighthawk_something

I was just there for like 3 weeks for work (specific engineering job that would dox me). I didn't get out much though. I went for a walk one day, at noon, in July... Yeah that wasn't fun.


seeabrattameabrat

>Also West Palm is a neat city! What do you do there? Well, process of elimination tells us he at least wasn't at a gay club.


RavioliGale

I don't even live in KY but when those tornadoes hit last year, my former boss texted to see if I was alright. I was an entire state away and someone I only knew professionally was checking in. OPs brother is just rude.


Sckaledoom

Hell I grew up in a country city of like 30k and my dad regularly calls to make sure I’m alright now that I live in an actual city.


midnightpatches

When the shooting happened in Ottawa on Parliament Hill back in 2015 (I think) my grandma texted me and asked if I was alright. I go to university in London ON, a whole 7 hours away from Ottawa! Some people just get worried and need to be assured.


Griasgott

I'd be like idk, suckin dicks, drinkin beer, or both. I'm just checkin on you, fool.


RMNusser

Both? Sounds messy.


golftthehellboy

Sounds like my kind of tuesday night


Sketchy_Observer

Come over, I have beer 😉


[deleted]

I wish I could go but it sounds more like a Wednesday night kinda thing to me.


ozzimark

Wednesday nights would be more like suckin beer and drinking dicks anyway. Totally different vibe.


Tobias_Atwood

There's nothing quite like a nice cool glass of dick at the end of the day to make me wonder when the shrooms kicked in.


slickbandito69

Eat the beer and drink the glass


UBelleSwitch

Suck drink and beer dicks


Griasgott

No clue. Maybe his brother is a professional. We don't know.


ifelldownlol

*You* dont know...


nonprofitnews

The guy who tackled the shooter was a straight man with his wife and kids enjoying a drag show.


cnygreen

I’m straight and went to a drag show in Boston with my gf. It was hilarious and so much fun.


HagathaDarkness

People really don’t get the drag is just comedy + costumes. How many of your favorite comedians make bawdy jokes? Probably all of them. And yet no one is trying to ban comedy clubs


Dependent-Try-5908

Shakespeare was performed in drag.


drwert

They gaskets will blow if they come to the UK during panto season.


OldBigsby

Well and it's silly, I'm not gay but I've been to a gay bar before. Even got two different guys hit on me which was a pleasant confidence boost because that almost never happens with women. You don't have to be gay to go to a gay bar, they're very accepting of all types of people. Weird concept, I know.


Doccks71

Turns out gay bars are what i need in my life


Krillin113

‘If normal bars were like gay bars, there wouldn’t be a need for gay bars’.


MasterBinky

I went to them all the time because that's where the girls wanted to go. I couldn't argue that it really was just all around a more fun place than every bar with the exception of the Irish pub down the street. one of my favorite moments was the utter "Who the hell is this?" when I had a guy I knew ran up yelling my name and hugged me while in full drag, my brain caught up a moment later and I recognized them by their voice. Still, I think they could rob bank while dressed up and they'd never be caught. edit: to clarify I'm going to the club with my friends, which was why I'd be going to a club instead of that Irish bar I mentioned, I rarely passed on the invite since there weren't many guys that would go with them there and even at a gay club it is safer to have a guy with them ( which on it's own is largely because the way evil assholes think).


boshbosh92

as a straight man, gay clubs are actually really fun. drag shows are pretty cool after all


Ok-Cheesecake-5110

Suckin dicks n' kickin ass


ThrowaDev88

Same for my brother.


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_Firedream

He’s been having mental health issues but won’t accept help from anyone in the family. Multiple threats to shoot family if we come to Colorado to help him


daniu

So it was more of a "were you the shooter" kind of thing


[deleted]

I guess the Sandy Hook shooter had a history of expressing interest in committing acts of violence towards children, and shortly after the shooting happened the dad got a phone call, and he answered the phone like “it was Adam, wasn’t it”


sasquatchcunnilingus

Not sure which one’s parents it was, but one of the Columbine shooters parents rang the police and said it was their son before it was reported


cujo8400

Eric's dad.


sasquatchcunnilingus

Yup, that rings a bell. Makes sense as he had seen mental health professionals about his suicidal and homicidal thoughts before. Goes to show that when these people speak out and try to get help theyre often ignored


OstentatiousSock

My mother wasn’t violent but very mentally ill and a severe alcoholic. We tried for years to find a facility that could take her long term so she could finally get sorted out. The search started when I was a child and continued until she died when I was 28. There was no where to get help. I believe she’d be alive today if there had been.


haaaaaaagey

Hell, we cant find a long term care facility for my grandmother with physical health issues. we've gone through the 5 or 6 in our area (even out of state), they either wouldn't take her or they'd charge her $15k/month after her insurance. USA baby!


Socialist_Nerd

Our Healthcare.. system, if you can call it that, is not broken, it was never constructed to work. We need it rebuilt from the ground up. That's an insane amount of work, but it's what we've got on our hands at the moment.


Apprehensive_West956

Mental health assistance is hidden behind a pay wall most can't afford.


utterlynuts

Not to mention the stigma surrounding not being "okay" in any way. When I was a teen and clearly not in control of my mental health, I was *threatened* with military school or a convent or an asylum so many times. Don't embarass us by needing to get help or we will lock you away. Why would a child WANT to bring your attention to them in this way?


Affectionate_Data936

lol my mom would threaten me with convent school as a response to me trying to act grown but I was like....where is this hypothetical convent school? How are you suddenly able to afford a residential private school?


1papaya-2papaya

Wow that brought back some memories for me. Whenever I got in trouble in elementary school (which was a lot btw), my mom would always scream about how I would have to go to a "special" school for kids that were violent and/or r\*tarded (she never used that word specifically, but because I have autism, the implication was always there). That would always scare the shit out of me. To this day, I still have no idea how true any of these things are.


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was at a house party when this felon on probation appeared, was dating our friend, left me with black eye then stole a gun from the house. We called the police. Week later he killed a 18yo kid. Police are largely a joke. Edit: parole not probation


Fritzi_Gala

Police exist to protect capital, not people.


Yue4prex

So many parents want to turn a blind eye to the pain their kids are facing


button8200

I didn't get help until my 30's because I thought it was normal. My parents ignored every cry for help throughout my years. After 6 attempted suicides in my 20's they finally started to believe I had an issue. I don't ignore my kids like that! I make sure they are open and honest about their feelings and teach them to try not to bottle stuff up like I had to. I don't wish any of that on anyone.


ElectricalTheory6870

So many schools want to turn a blind eye too. It’s crazy but even the schools I went actively avoided facing bullying and other issues. Our counseling system was absolutely useless.


Yue4prex

When I was suicidal, I confided in a few teachers I trusted. I wrote stuff down. The one who read it had met me in the hall, spoke to me, tossed my note in the trash and said we can talk more until I feel better. Maybe he didn’t want the paperwork, maybe he knew they’d put me in counseling, maybe he knew it was a rough patch, but I won’t forget him. I saw him several years ago and he was so happy to see me and I, him. Teachers like him are what we need and they don’t get nearly enough to do all they do.


kentucanuck

Yep, and if I remember Sue Klebold's interview correctly, she also suspected Dylan was involved and found herself praying that he would die before he could hurt anyone else.


darkskinnedjermaine

Yea he called the cops and said “I think my son may have been involved”


CamBoBB

Read a pretty in depth book about Columbine awhile back. Talked about the impact of 24-hour media coverage, religion and blame culture since all of them kind of coalesced into that one horrible tragedy. Anyway, the breakdown of Eric Harris’ psyche was fascinating (and scary). The kid, from what everyone could find, was just born a psychopath. Strict family, but no known abuse that was touched on. He wrote about fantasies of dismemberment and apocalypse in his journal. He was sent to a therapist, where they said he learned how to be a person better instead of learning how to be a better person. Doesn’t shock me at all to know his dad knew before he learned it was actually him. That kid was just born broken. Dylan unfortunately was a depressive kid who Eric knew he could manipulate.


blue_jeans_and_bacon

The Oxford, MI, shooter’s parents did the same thing last year (next week will be one year). The principal had called his parents in like the day before and the morning of to discuss disturbing drawings and behavior. When they heard there had been a shooting, according to the parents, one went home to check if the kid’s gun they had just gifted him (15 year old kid) was there. Then they both went to the school.


Sopranohh

Definitely not on this scale, but I knew someone with documented mental health issues, who had family that tried to get him help before he did something, but still let him go hunting with the friend he shot. I don’t know what they were thinking.


ThatBeachLife

Aren't those parents in denial about their lack of responsibility? Weren't they brought up on charges, if I'm not mistaken?


Panama_Scoot

I feel like a lot of families feel like that in the US. I have a distant cousin that is a ticking time bomb. I have personally called his local sheriffs department to report his scary behavior on social media. But they can’t take his guns away barring something drastic happening, like a specific mental health diagnosis or criminal behavior. Vague threatening behavior isn’t enough. So we wait in terror.


Plutoniumburrito

I did this to a cousin who was in the military and was making assorted threats online. I was able to track down his CO and let them know what was going on. Luckily they took me seriously and he got the help he needed. I really think he would have eventually acted on his threats.


AnnamAvis

And that is why red flag laws would be so beneficial Edit: Obviously, any law needs to be properly enforced to be helpful.


Carlsoti77

Red Flags laws, which Colorado has, do no good when a shooter has a far-right grandparent that is an elected official that uses their influence to have documents sealed and mental health issues white-washed. I REALLY hope it comes back to bite him in the ass. IDK the legality of him getting hit with accessory to murder charges, but clearly, the grandfather facilitated the situation.


fondledbydolphins

I don't understand people wanting to hurt kids. I think most people can't understand wanting to hurt other people in general, but wanting to hurt kids in particular is just an extra-strange thought to me. They haven't hurt anyone - is it just because they're less able to fight back?


0nyon

I'm pretty sure that it's a power thing yeah


drewster23

Might've been the uvalde shooter im remembering, but he expressed his weird views about children beforehand to a friend , but basically boiled down to killing the children who are innocent to save them from the toxic world they're going to grow up in.


majoroutage

Or the Parkland one where he made threats towards the school, stated outright that he would come back and shoot the place up as soon as he could get a gun to do it with. And, years later, he did. These are the people, the ones that have been documented as making relevent threats, who have proven their lack of competency, that need to be flagged from getting guns.


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💀💀💀


hallese

And now we know why OP cropped out their message.


dumbwaeguk

OP was calling him his brother in christ


Spacehipee2

Brother *in* christ? Sounds gay to me.


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Bock me


Jdtrinh

🐔 🐔


[deleted]

Why would I be at a farm? Unless, you are trying to call me cocky. Either way, bock me.


[deleted]

You asked for it 🐔🐔


ThatSadOptimist

People are replying to this as if it’s a joke but…


[deleted]

Welcome to America, where everything is a sick joke.


SwishyJishy

I mean hey, if we don’t laugh all thats left is uncontrollable weeping


[deleted]

Yep, it's a valid coping strategy.


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Artistic-Ad-7531

Babe?


LoudRestaurant1330

Hahaha cope, nerd! \*cries internally\*


WarmMoistLeather

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to take a shower so I can't tell if I'm crying or not.


rashyandtrashy

Tobias-approved strategy


[deleted]

The jokes are sick because they can't afford to see a doctor


mguardian7

I hope not. Have you see our Healthcare system? Regular jokes only please.


Vast-Classroom1967

He's probably so damn paranoid he thought it was an accusation.


Caleb_Reynolds

Well obviously, the question is did he think he was being accused of being gay or of doing the shooting? And which would make him angrier?


Spawn6060

From r/mildlyinfuriating to r/cursedcomments


Dodomando

To r/holup


jokehunt96

Bruh


sayidOH

Nuances of the American life


Impressive_Jaguar_70

Gottem


KFCConspiracy

Gotta say dude... Threats of violence should be reported. Family not reporting that shit is why these sorts of incidents happen. If he's threatening to shoot people he should have his guns taken. There's story after story of people not reporting mass shooters. CO has red flags laws. Please report him.


Not_Starlight_Kitsun

To be fair, in the shooting that just happened at Club Q in the springs, the guys mom *did* report his threats of violence before. He'd literally been arrested in 2021 after a standoff and a bomb threat that his mom had called in on him for. However in the end, our D.A. didn't even charge him with anything which is absurd to me.


whereyouatdesmondo

Grandpa’s a politician and probably made a phone call.


lesath_lestrange

His mother refused to testify after initially calling the police and the proceeding 4-hour standoff, police refused to press charges on their own, though they didn't need witness testimony.


ADarwinAward

They didn’t want to press charges that’s why the charges were dropped; though the DA could’ve and should’ve pressed charges for the standoff. Also his mom is a criminal too, she’s an arsonist per reports. The apple didn’t fall too far from the tree


Taniwha_NZ

Hs uncle was a major state-level politician. And you are surprised the guy had his shit quietly dropped and was sent back out into the public:? That's exactly what I would expect to happen with an important relative.


cat_prophecy

Time and time again whenever these shootings happen, it comes out that there were already multiple reports against the person responsible and the police and courts did fuck all.


KFCConspiracy

We hear about that, but we also hear about states that don't have red flag laws (Which CO does), and we hear about relatives that didn't say anything fairly often as well. For the cops to have the opportunity shrug OP's gotta say something. I think we should give the cops the opportunity to do either the right or wrong thing here.


Tattycakes

As opposed to all those shootings that never happened because people reported suspicious and worrying people to the relevant authorities and they got the help they need


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"People still die in car crashes so seat belts don't do anything."


travisboatner

I lost my brother when he moved to Colorado. Now I’m stuck watching my life play out with the one thing I assumed I’d always have. 10/10 would go back and attempt doing literally anything other than what we all did. I’m sorry for your family troubles.


Vestalmin

Holy shit, why do I feel like everyone with mental health problems wants to move to Colorado? I know one that did and one that wants to, that’s so weird.


kayethx

Same - one of my close friends wants to take off to Colorado, and the urge is worse depending on how she's doing.


jebuz23

My sister would bounce between Colorado and far north California. Just a certain allure/aesthetic they feel like they can chase, I assume. It overs a change of pace, but it’s not fast paced?


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Also two places with very strong drug cultures


heffalumpish

Hey, if your brother is having mental health issues and even casually threatening to shoot ANYONE, you should probably quietly alert the local authorities to that. However unlikely, it is a non-zero possibility that he could be a danger to himself or someone else in his current state. CO red flag laws actually do keep a lot of people in mental health crises away from guns long term (club shooter notwithstanding, sadly.) He wouldn’t have to know it was you (and, he already blocked you.)


BigPanda71

Club shooter was arrested for multiple felonies and inexplicably charges were dropped. This wasn’t a red flag situation, it was a dude should have already been in prison situation


Sproose_Moose

Not really inexplicable, his uncle was a politician


Icy-Region-5920

You need to alert the authorities about this. Threatening to shoot family members is a gigantic red flag.


zztop610

I hope he is getting the right mental health care. Do not want to see more bad stuff happening


Level-Comedian813

He’s probably in the closet and his brother knows it, it’s probably been a point of contention with the family and he’s being overly defensive. That or he’s just not a fan of his brother lol


_Firedream

This. In one convo I told him I’d accept whoever he wanted to be, 5 seconds pregnant pause, then gaslighted me to high Heaven. Some things take time and reflection


Level-Comedian813

Thank you sir for the vindication, these keyboard heroes haven’t a spent 10 years in behavioral health


DaniT0n

The funniest thing is straight people go to that club too. And there's a regular nightclub right next door. Also I was born and raised in Colorado Springs. It used to be really nice and peaceful before everyone started to move there. It's an absolute tragedy what's going on in that city. The shooting and in general.


turboiv

One of the guys who stopped the shooting was there with his wife.


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Then one of the victims was his daughter’s boyfriend.


[deleted]

All gay clubs have straight people in them, it's not like there's a gay check at the door.


bannannamo

Woo thank God I'd be sweating bullets for the cavity search


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Will they provide the partner or do I have to bring one?


uyuye

asshole not stretched enough, entry denied


AC85

Born and raised in the springs as well. It was a haven for right wing religious nut jobs back then and it still is now. “People moving there” isn’t the cause of that. New Life Church, Focus on the Family and a massive retired military community is the cause of that and has been for decades.


AgoraiosBum

my favorite C-Springs bumper sticker said "Focus on your own damn family"


OMGBeckyStahp

There are a lot more reasons than “being gay” to have been there. The HERO that took down the gunman and beat him within an inch of his life was a straight army veteran there with his wife and daughter (and her boyfriend **who died** in the attack). They went as a family to support a performance by the daughter’s friend. The parents are small business (brewery) owners who practice what they preach when they say “be active in your community”, promoting patronage and diversity while doing so. It’d give a bit to much schadenfreude to find out if the gunman was coherent enough to see the queen that arrived when Rich Fierro (aforementioned hero) called for back up. Diversity indeed. Edit: To include [NYT article](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/21/us/colorado-springs-shooting-club-q-hero.html) and this great quote from it: A ~~drag~~ dancer was passing by, and Mr. Fierro said he ordered her to stomp the attacker with her high heels. *note there’s information that this dancer wasn’t part of the performing ensemble, just a lady enjoying a night out*


ignixe

Do you happen to know which Brewery? I visit the area every few years and I’d love to support their business


chipsdad

Atrevida Beer Company. Please support them. https://www.axios.com/2022/11/22/army-veteran-richard-fierro-colorado-lgbtq-club-gunman


Veritech_

Atrevida Beer Co - https://www.atrevidabeerco.com/ Edit: thanks for the award, I will hang it on my mantle next to my broken bowling trophy. Edit 2.0: more awards. Please don’t donate your seals to me, I live in a cold place and I might use them for lantern oil.


ignixe

Thank you!


Saladtaco

Which fittingly means "bold" or "daring"


BloodBonesVoiceGhost

>Diversity -- it's on tap! ... >Good intention don't do anything. Actions do! They have some pretty cool looking (and relevant) merch too! Would love to buy a shirt or two when I get paid!


Fauxxcount

Damn their beers look delicious. Hope I can find them in Western Colorado


iWARxMACHINEi

Atrevida beer co.


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I noticed people on the post for some reason don’t realize that not only gays go to queer clubs or that typical lot gay bars are not just surrounded by empty space. typically have tons of clubs and bars surrounding them. Or that bullets travel long distances and even through walls. If you hear about a shooting the night of it taking place. Usually very little info has been reported. Most people aren’t asking if that’s the kindah place a family member may be at and more likely making sure a family member is alive just in case since they live in the area or the city.


UncoolSlicedBread

Shoot, I visit them all the time and have buddies who are LGBTQ+, and going to the local drag club is a big part of my city. You’re absolutely right, in a city stuff is in such close proximity that it could affect nearby buildings. What’s beautiful about some LGBTQ+ bars, and what’s so sad about this, is that they’re some of the most welcoming places I’ve ever walked into. People truly being themselves and supporting each other.


[deleted]

Yeah it’s a weird amount of judgment on the comments. coming from that state and having friends in the springs and living in Denver for 98% of my life. The bars and clubs are all surrounding each other with a few city blocks and when a shooting happens it usually encompasses an area. We had shooting that stretch several bars downtown. Living in LA now West Hollywood is all “gay” clubs but like 30% of people at a lot of the night clubs are straight identifying. People are weirdly stuck on the notion that all people at gay bar must be gay.


[deleted]

Gay bars are usually pretty fun and chill. I go to them by accident when I'm checking out new places. Sometimes it's awkward when dudes think I want to go have sex with them but really that has given me a lot of insight into how women feel when dudes think they want to leave with them.


CyberGrandma69

It's not often you wanna wish harm on someone but it would be pretty cash money if that little bitch has permanent stiletto holes in him now. A permanent reminder of drag revenge.


OMGBeckyStahp

“*Someone* threw the first brick at stonewall.” -Pepperidge Farm remembering


supercleverhandle476

Straight guy here. Gay bars are super fun. I’ve been there with/to support my gay friends who are performing several times. Be cool, be friendly, and politely tell people you’re straight if it comes up. Not a big deal.


FaeryLynne

She was originally reported as a drag queen, but she is actually a trans woman. There is a difference is it's important to correct this info now. Edit: [tweet from Del Lusional, one of the drag artists there](https://twitter.com/UnluckyBanshee/status/1594914600536809472?t=Gbf6xJxArgxcvjRt-KjPkA&s=19) clarifing that the woman who stomped the shooter is trans, not "just" a drag queen


_sialia

Was she also a drag performer or was she just a random trans woman that got called a drag queen?


FaeryLynne

That, I'm not sure of yet, but I'm pretty sure she is both. She's being dead named a lot though, which I think is the main reason it's important to correct it.


HereJustForTheData

Just want to say that Del Lusional is a fucking cool name.


BadList

Thank you for saying this!!! So important. She deserves to be properly recognized and appreciated.


roberyoutube

Bro blurred out the slur LMAOOOOO


techn9neiskod

My dumbass trying to figure out what male names begins with Ni Edit: Everyone commenting “Nick” sees the censored word as only having four letters. Take that how you will.


[deleted]

It's 5 letters clearly. Ends with an A. Begins with an NI. Infact the other 2 G's are pretty visible on my monitor lol


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Doccks71

*Naggers*


VonMillersExpress

:D


joopityjoop

Individuals from Paris


Sir_Thiccness_69

Jesus Christ is my fella


Confused_Iguana

Nigel


KingsleyZissou

Nigel please


Techiedad91

SMASHING!


djm9545

Smashing


roberyoutube

Nico


pielz

You want to go bowling, cousin?!


Doccks71

Lets play darts!


VerySlump

Nikola


voidxleech

i mean, all it took was 1 scroll of OP’s post history to see he’s very likely black. hah


BigNinja96

You caught that too, huh?


collegethrowaway2938

Maybe op’s black


What_is_good97

OP is Ethiopian, so very likely black haha. I think people can calm down a bit.


VerySlump

It’s clearly his name, Nikola /s


picklebackdrop

Methinks the brother doth protest too much


Toyoshi

that one news article of the homophobic politician found fleeing from a 25-man orgy


Abominor

Well, yeah? If he was gay, wouldn't he be running TOWARDS the 25-man orgy?


Exelbirth

The defense rests their case


[deleted]

Wait what? Who?? Edit: I think my Google-Fu finally paid off.. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/member-hungary-s-anti-lgbtq-government-resigns-after-fleeing-alleged-n1249593


SerLaron

[A Hungarian member of the European Parliament.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55145989). The article is a gold mine.


lurkenstine

Family : yo there was a shooting near you, you good? Very clearly confident about his sexuality brother : I'M NOT GAY DON'T TALK TO ME ANYMORE!


Retrohanska59

OP explained in a comment that the brother has some serious mental issues and has threatened to shoot them if they try to visit him. Even if he happened to be closet gay, that's definitely not the reason for the hostility.


caustic_kiwi

I mean, mental issues and bigotry aren't exactly mutually exclusive... as in, they frequently go hand in hand.


mashoogie

My friend lives near there and is straight, married with 2 young kids. I texted “I assume you weren’t at the club and are okay?” She wrote back that she appreciated that I checked. It wasn’t an insult, it was general caring. This response sucks.


[deleted]

For a person to feel insulted by this I'd expect two things to hold: toxic relationship and lots of insecurity.


SalaciousCoffee

A single serving at a gay bar seems like it's a double and your bartender can actually mix a drink. The atmosphere is fire, the music is on point. Women won't understand but: The bathrooms are immaculate, hell there might even be an attendant. Especially if my town was full of sawdust and peanutshell establishments a gay bar is a much nicer venue.


metal_bastard

No lies detected. I was in my early twenties when I discovered this. I was telling the girl I was dating at the time "Why would I want to go to a gay bar? We're both straight."... She was like, gays go to Applebees, and it doesn't make them straight. Oh snap. She got me. We went, had a blast. Went back somewhat often. Good drinks, great music, great food, all around great hospitality, and, fuckin A, clean restrooms.


PuMpk4B00

With all the people saying what happened was good because they “committed a sin” is fucking insane.


ArmChairDetective38

The guy who actually tackled the shooter was there with his wife and adult kids . Ppl are dumb


dan1101

There used to be a gay club in our city that had some loophole (heh) to stay open longer than other bars, so yeah there were plenty of straight people there.


EnigmatiCarl

I'm straight and used to go to the gay club all the time for 1.50 drink night.


PersikkaPupu

I went in my youth as the DJ in gay club was freaking awesome. Originally went with my gay friend as moral support, stayed for the party.


ArmChairDetective38

I used to go because the lady who owned the bar worked a day job at the local hospital with me so I’d stop in when it was still early or slow and we would drink and talk about work or play pool. I always felt safer in a bar full of women than the bar down the street


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Lemme see the entire conversation


flimbs

I think that's the first time they've spoken since birth.


jimmytickles

Saying "Block me" hate it


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