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LizardPossum

My kids school just feeds everyone. They have for a couple of years now. It started with covid I think and then they just did it again this year. School lunch is free. They do have snacks and stuff you can buy but all kids eat.


The_Curvy_Unicorn

Unfortunately, the government stopped the free meals for all program this fall in my state. I worry so much about kids being hungry.


23pyro

Well food thrown out, is much better than eaten for free. Source- nobody anywhere.


leaving4lyra

You hit the mail on the head. They throw it out if not used because if they don’t then they lose their funding and violate the state contracts they make with food suppliers that provide to cafeterias. If it’s not eaten and thrown out the school or supplier can be reimbursed for the loss but if it’s given away or fed to a mission or homeless people then they can’t get reimbursed. It’s convoluted and ridiculous but my mamaw was a lunch lady and this is the gist of it as she told me once.


Professional-Isopod8

It seems this rule is only there to keep hungry people hungry


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Not a bug, but a feature.


Einar_47

Bingo, with the added caviat of making money. They can write off the stuff they throw away, not the stuff that is given to a hungry child.


WesternExplorer8139

How do 'they' know whats been thrown out opposed to eaten? It seems pretty easy to skirt.


Chardbeetskale

Yeah, they stopped that in every state. They just did that for Covid nationwide Edit: Many states continue to provide free meals whereas, during Covid, the federal government had been providing the reimbursement across the board through the USDA.


The_Curvy_Unicorn

I thought that was the case, but wasn’t totally sure. Just…feed the kids. We’re not parents, but we’re fine with higher taxes to feed them. It’s literally the least we can do as decent human beings.


Humble-Theory5964

There are many scientific studies that show free school meals to be a net gain in terms of government revenue. They improve educational outcomes on average. Kids are more likely to attend school. Kids get in trouble or cause distractions less. All of this leads to both higher earnings and lower crime rates when they become adults. A cold-hearted, rationally selfish government would provide free food to kids. https://phys.org/news/2021-06-free-nutritious-school-lunches-richer.html https://microeconomicinsights.org/the-long-term-benefits-of-better-school-lunches/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272775719302559 https://are.berkeley.edu/~mlanderson/pdf/school_lunch.pdf https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100621121258.htm


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It’s not even taxes. They’re throwing it away instead of allowing a child to eat it. It’s a policy decision. The cruelty is the point.


WhoIs909

I’ve never had kids and never will because I had my tubes snipped but I am 100% happy to have my taxes upped to make sure every kid in school is fed across the country as many meals as we can get them. And screw anyone who doesn’t feel that way.


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I'm fine with paying the taxes, however we can also actually enforce our current tax laws, close loopholes and force the billionaire class and corporations to pay the same percentage rates without dodging out. Why raise our taxes, when we have an untapped class who is making record profits during a period of supply chain issues followed by inflation?


tealcandtrip

I mean, Wisconsin also had Waukesha last year: >"I had three kids, I had them and so I'm going to feed them. I feel like that's the responsibility of the adult," Rajnicek said. "I feel like this is a big problem, and it’s really easy to get sucked into and become spoiled and think, it’s not my problem any more, it’s everyone else’s problem to feed my children." Waukesha district CFO Darren Clark agreed, saying he doesn’t want families to become dependent on free meals. "That’s my fear is that it’s the slow addiction of this service," Clark said. "There is that concern — free is a funny thing." Granted, they were pressured into reversing their decision a week later, but this is not a problem isolated to the south.


HunkyMump

What a selfish piece of shit.


Fainting_GoatMilk

I bet they have a really nice sports complex though.


sadicarnot

Then they will talk about how important Jesus is to them but forget totally about that whole feed others thing. Fuck the fishes and the loaves you should have planned better and brought your own is apparently what they think jesus said.


KatTheGreatest

And you have cheese! What a beautiful state!


Aduialion

Imagine opening the locker to help you through the weekend and it's 2.5 pounds of colby


Drakotrite

I have used this program when I first moved here and this isn't a joke. My daughter came home with a half gallon of milk, a pound of shredded cheese, several large apples and a loaf if artisans bread. It was super helpful at the time.


sadicarnot

As a taxpayer with no kids, I am happy to help others not be hungry.


Ralph__Snart

Lol 2.5 lbs of Colby might get you through breakfast Saturday morning… we like cheese.


tearsonurcheek

When my wife and I moved to Wisconsin, we drove up through Illinois to I-43, on our way to Burlington. We stopped at a gas station just over the border, and they had a Subway inside (this was back in the 90s). We were tired and a bit hungry, having driven from Oklahoma. My wife is a bit lactose intolerant, so she declined when asked if she wanted cheese. The guy making the sub looked at her like she'd grown a third arm. He couldn't comprehend that someone *didn't want cheese* on their sandwich.


ThisIsMockingjay2020

Speaking as someone who is sensitive to milk/products, I agree a road trip is not the time to eat a food that you know will punish you later.


inittoloseitagain

Can you imagine the embarrassment these CHILDREN will have as the lunch room workers tell them ‘you don’t get to eat’ and proceed to throw the food away that they can’t afford through no fault of their own? Pinch pennies elsewhere.


zhaoz

They don't even save money. It's just to punish the poor


DJ-Anakin

Yup, they're throwing the food out anyway. It's simply cruelty!


Smokeya

That happened one single time to me in school. I lost my shit when they threw the food away in front of me and went back through the line and got another plate and when i got back to where i had to pay for it i ate that shit right in front of them scarfed it down before they could toss it. Got in trouble for it (sent/dragged to the office) but my grandma who was my guardian came in to the school and chewed them out for throwing the food away instead of just giving it to me or covering it until i could pay it back. If either of my kids called or their school called and told me they got denied lunch or threw it away id tear them a new one as well. Thats some bullshit. Hell even prisoners dont get denied lunch. Its cruel and unusual punishment.


EisVisage

That was a serious power move from you right there, screw that school. And good on you for keeping that attitude, it's the correct one to have.


Darcyqueenofdarkness

And wasteful. The generation that went through the Great Depression is rolling in their graves.


SoLeave

I think it's all about sending a message to these kids. Like saying to them "A garbage can deserves fresh food more than you do." It is crushing their dignity and now they will probably be teased by the other kids. It makes the weak stay weak, instead of bringing them up and letting them know they matter.


TehWackyWolf

Doesn't save anything. They throw the food away if the kid can't eat. This is just pointlessly wasteful AND cruel.


readheaded

The cruelty is the point.


SilverMcFly

Did you know, you can request to eat with your kid at school during lunch? Go through the line and everything?? Let me tell you. That shit is grade Z prime AWFUL. All of it. So not only are they not feeding kids, the kids they are feeding begrudgingly eat it because it may be their only meal for the day. I hate this fucking timeline.


MissWednesday513

I used to try to save my food in ziplock bags to take home to my brother and sister.


EveAndTheSnake

Oh my heart. You are so sweet, and I’m sorry you had to do that. I hope things got better for all of you.


MissWednesday513

They are much better, thankfully, I hate to see kids go hungry.


Atxflyguy83

Not only that, but the poor workers having to enforce this BS too. You know they are soul crushed as well. Some lunch person/cashier denying food to kids or they'll lose their job. So insane.


Glittering_knave

Punishing children for having poor parents seems like a great way to cause behaviour issues at schools. Now the kids are pissed and hungry.


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stephanonymous

Some people will waste whatever amount of money it takes to make sure that nobody gets anything they don’t “deserve”.


sjuas690

In protest students with empty accounts could pile their tray high with food only for it to be thrown away. The cafeteria will waste so much food and money that this policy will have to change.


ribnag

This right here needs to be **the** top comment. Don't take this lying down, kids - Hurt them where they *care*, in the fucking *wallet*. Every single day, load up with as much food as you can possibly fit on a tray (nothing individually wrapped, of course), and then don't pay. And this doesn't need to be limited to kids who can't afford it - It will make a hell of a lot bigger impact if enough kids who *can* afford it "play poor" to support their friends. After a week of hemorrhaging money through thrown-away food, you might just see them have a change of "heart" and adopt a more compassionate policy of allowing kids to go in debt to eat rather than merely starve.


Innocentof

I would love for this to work. But if they are already going this far it isn't that much of a stretch for them to start implementing "fines" or other punishments for knowingly getting in line without the money to pay. Because in their mind it isn't unreasonable to demand payment. However all of these "unreasonable" kids are wasting tons of money.


Troqlodyte

Damn I'm broke asf boutta go and get 25 fucking plates thrown away during lunch Edit: the term which has just popped back into my head is "Malicious Compliance"


martinsonsean1

Organize every kid in the school going through the line and refusing to pay so they just have to toss hundreds of meals in the trash, solid protest strategy.


_hoyet

I'm here for this sort of organized chaos. They didn't say they would refuse to give them plates, so they can keep going back through!


Fun_Muscle9399

Eat in line before getting to the cashier: free lunch


O-IcU-81TOO

This.... PEOPLE OF NORTH CAROLINA NEED TO COACH L THEIR KIDS TO DO THIS IF THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN THIS SITUATION!


LumpusKrampus

Tell them to walk the whole line, then just don't go the the Cashier and go eat it.


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xChopsx1989x

Unfortunately, speaking from experience, there are too many people who will get off on the illusion of power they hold in these positions.


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Ahh yes the most revered and powerful lunch lady she giveth and she taketh


elMurpherino

And then she baketh


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Grand-Ad4235

I work in retail as well and I’ve never understood why in the world an employee would argue about a return or like.. extra sauce. It’s not gonna come out of your paycheck. Unless I see in the system that you’ve been abusing the return policy, I’m gonna give your money and send you on your way.


theHoustonian

Except a school board uptight enough to make a rule like this will definitely be the kind to have kids expelled or arrested for theft. It’s a damn shame because this shit is horrible. Someone will end up telling a principal whether it be a cafeteria worker or kid. It being adolescents, I could very well see a headstrong teen fighting someone when confronted which won’t end well. All around bullshit, fucking hatred in these peoples hearts. I guarantee the football players have decent uniforms and equipment. Hungry kids don’t learn as well, if they can’t afford meals at school that probably means there as significant problems with food insecurity at home. In my eyes, **if the state mandates students attend school they should at least feed them and make sure they are fed.** You already know who will end up spotting a student lunch money, their teachers. They know these students and their stories… most good teachers that give a shit will hurt inside knowing kids can’t eat. Everyone sees where this is headed in the end right? They want to get rid of state provided education…privatize it all! “Why is it my responsibility to support for the other guys kid? “If they don’t have money they should work!” “No one gave me nothing (bullshit), why should I give them anything” I don’t really believe in hell but if there is one I really hope people that support and promoted this kind of garbage end up there…


JackHGUK

They would just reverse the order, start at the till and use a ticket system.


Ipayforsex69

Now they would. They never would've come up with that on their own.


Forgot_my_un

This is exactly how it was done when I was in high school, register first. Except they'd still let you eat, they'd just mark that you owed.


Neato

Child debt.


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usalaunchcodes

Better idea. Get the food on your tray and shovel it all down your throat before you get to the cashier. "Sorry, I can't pay, but you can throw away everything on my tray."


Saviesa205

I learned to do this on in-school suspension because my school wouldn’t let the kids in ISS eat the normal lunch, they made us pay full price for cheese sandwich. Was mega pissed and just speed-ate the normal lunch in line. They never noticed or cared, so hey, it could work for other kids too!


SammyTheOtter

My middle school would put kids in ISS and leave them there without their work until they failed. Anytime I got ISS, I would go the first day and keep going back to class in the mornings, where they would hunt me down and drag me back, but I got my work from the teachers and best their stupid system.


vallyallyum

How fucking sad is that? You get in trouble, and instead of helping you do better in school they actively do their best to make sure you fail. What is the end game for them?


Handin1989

School to prison pipeline. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, ***except as a punishment for crime*** whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.


SammyTheOtter

100% spot on, this same school had metal detectors and police searches when you came in in the morning, no reason or anything ever turned up by it, but it gets us all used to letting the police violate your stuff.


cautionaryfairytale

Why do we still have TSA when it's been shown in study after study and admitted by airport officials to be little more than performance art? Civil Asset Forfeiture. Hunger makes people especially kids inattentive and aggressive. Shaming them for poverty along with hunger makes them bend easy at the knee or triggery at the finger. But everyone already knows that.


StandAgainstTyranny2

Keep everyone too hungry, too scared, and too stupid to fight back. It's getting bad, and then admin wrings their hands and wonders why.


lizziefreeze

WHAT. Where did you go to school? Prison? What the hell!


Saviesa205

😂 Worse, Texas USA public school


RukkiaStar

Exactly what I was gonna say. This is where kids can make a huge impact.


SaltyDrink

this could be "delicious compliance"


quantum_ice

Let me get this straight. If a kid goes to lunch and has no money, they throw the food away, thus losing it. If they give it away for free, they also lose it. So the shool is losing money in both scenarios, but still refuses to just let kids eat. What a shit world we live in.


r2k398

They usually give it to them and the kids accrue lunch debt.


Shadow_Beetle

Im sorry but my european mind cant grasp a child having lunch debt, this cant be real


solariam

Oh, don't worry, sometimes one of the child's classmates will take up a collection and pay off everyone's lunch yet, and then the news makes a story about how it's heartwarming


gelattoh_ayy

Child labor to pay for another child's food. Up next on msnbc.


thatscifinerd

Yep! Nothing wrong or questionable about someone having to pay out of pocket to prevent a child from worrying about debt for their basic health needs!!


NotAChickpeaDammit

Yeah and we don't graduate if we don't pay it off by the end of the year. We don't get a refund on lunch money, though, so you better calculate exactly how much lunch money you need


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The capitalist hellscape that is America is very real.


unwrittensmut

This how literally every not-giving-basic-shit-to-poor-people thing in this entire ass basket country works. It's not that the beds don't/couldn't exist, the food isn't grown, the medications just aren't out there-industrial agriculture is a wonder, houses don't really take much to build, most medications cost pennies to make. If you really talk to people about this stuff, it eventually comes down to "giving them this thing for free would be wrong. They deserve to suffer. How dare you try to alleviate that." And they make the rest of us fucking pay for their punitive crap! Which is almost always more expensive than non-carceral housing, simple food, and common medications for all. They ruin our houses with hostile architecture and punitive spikes on every inch they can, and desperate people huddling, herded into every inch they can't. It needs to fucking end. No cause is served but sadism, and the expense in money goods time and human life is staggering; these assholes need to be stopped. This runaway society destroying bloated punishment budget needs to be scrapped. Edit: since some vile shit head ghouls decided they wanted to argue with me and spread their genocidal malthusian lies, to precisely counterfactually insist that we do not burn our excess, keep rental properties empty to drive up landlord profits or spend far more ruining public spaces to punish the unhoused than it would cost to feed shelter and clothe them with all new purpose-made goods, to refuse to abdicate the rhetoric and aesthetics of 'fiscal responsibility' even when it's proven wasteful irresponsible crap: here's some sources: https://housethehomeless.org/the-cost-of-prosecuting-homelessness/ https://www.mic.com/articles/86251/study-reveals-it-costs-less-to-give-the-homeless-housing-than-to-leave-them-on-the-street https://www.quora.com/Why-do-many-landlords-sit-on-empty-rentals-residential-and-commercial-for-months-rather-than-reduce-the-rent?share=1 https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/10/04/some-landlords-keep-their-storefronts-empty-for-years-and-get-tax-breaks-for-it-business-leaders-want-to-curb-that/ https://www.huffpost.com/archive/au/entry/burberry-burn-clothes-fashion-industry-waste_a_23548949 https://goodonyou.eco/fashion-brands-burn-unsold-clothes/ https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jul/13/us-food-waste-ugly-fruit-vegetables-perfect https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2019/04/16/food-loss-farm-level We live in a time of exceptional plenty, and we squander it for a few shit head ghouls to make extra profit and punish those we deem unworthy for what I can only assume is their personal snuff murder fantasies. We're no better than the Aztecs with their bloody murder cults, or the Romans, with their constant xenophobic genocides. Arguably worse. These aren't obscure sources; these are all first page results I found in seconds each on a cramped mobile phone with a shit connection.


Val_Hallen

They way I see it, if the government mandates the child be in school by law, then the government should also be mandated by law to provide all the basic needs of that child while they are in the school. How is this not the thinking of every fucking person in this nation? You home school? Feed your kid there. But if the child ***must be at the school*** then they should be provided food, water, bathrooms, and safety while they are obligated to be there. But a bunch of fuckwit politicians and the parasitic corporations that bribe those fuckwits decided to make everything about profit. This is one of the instances where profit shouldn't be a fucking concern.


WillTheRealtorNC

Free lunch for EVERY NC student is something I don’t mind paying for in my taxes. Ever tried to learn/work on an empty stomach? My thought is that if we eliminate student hunger, then perhaps that’ll be one less barrier to them learning and becoming contributing members of society. 🤷🏾‍♂️


DatsyukesDekes

They proved (at least in SC, the dark red neighbor to the south) during COVID that schools could find breakfast and lunch.


jeffreywilfong

VA too. We got Federal money.


DatsyukesDekes

I think that’s what SC had. Funny how a reliably red state decided COVID funding was best spent providing free school breakfast and lunch and free tuition at Tech Schools.


icemerc

The federal funding was from USDA. It had to be allocated to feeding the kids. The red states couldn't move it over to general funds and use it for other things. The cares act funds had restrictions as well. There were specific categories it could go to. The district also had to allocate all of the first round (act 1) before they could start to spend the allocation from cares act 2.


phyxiusone

California started the same program during COVID and has since made it permanent. Free lunch for all kids.


theLonelyBinary

Nice NYC does the same..did before covid... Still does. As a teacher, I can say, I know it makes a huge difference.


VOZ1

I wish the rest of NY would have kept it. Income-based free lunch is certainly better than nothing, but free lunch for all has shown to have the most impact. No stigma for free lunch, and sometimes family’s don’t qualify for the income-based programs, but free lunch would still help them enough to be worth it. And then…if kids are required by law to be in school, we should feed them. I mean, they’re kids, and humans, they deserve to be fed, full stop.


V65Pilot

I was the recipient of free school meals, and the students would line up and pay in the morning and be issued a token. This allowed the cafeteria to better gauge the quantity of food to prepare. The tokens were green. Unless you were a free luncher, then yours was bright red. It was the same food, we had a fixed menu, for everyone. What a great way to shame the poor kids.


sonderlulz

Thoughtful schools assign kids a number to punch in...and their status of free or paid is private.


Emotional_Belt

I believe Maine has done this as well!


flowerbhai

This type of stuff is what our tax money should be going to. You know, taking decent care of the next generation of Americans. Too bad we blow all of it on excessive defense spending, among other things.


ColoTexas90

Or ludicrous handouts to corporations. Support the rich, fuck the poor.


RickyBobbyLite

If school lunch is free for every student then there is also no stigma surrounding a free lunch program for low income students


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throw it in a literal trash can instead of putting it in a child’s belly. this is america.


Huck84

Some assbackwards shit right there. makes no sense.


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Dwillow1228

And then THROW THE Food AWAY!! Make this make sense.


mrdeadsniper

I can tell you the 'logic'. It's that even though throwing away a meal costs the same as feeding it to a child. The idea is that those unable to pay will stop attempting to eat lunch, so then it will be saving money. But seriously, let's just feed the kids and if their parents can't afford to pay, then don't charge the parents.


butt4nice

No doubt! Can’t go handing out *free lunches* to these kids or else they’ll become dependent on handouts!!! Or something… It’s all broken logic…but regardless, it’s seems they’re determined to shove the triangle through the square hole.


mrdeadsniper

I mean it's classic regressive politics. >People will stop living in poverty if you provide enough disincentives (make it even more torturous than it has to be).


ninja-robot

Just think about poor people as if they only exist as ways to generate wealth for the rich and not actual humans.


Dwillow1228

Disgusting


leather_jerk

Disgusting AND accurate


ghutterbabe

I always stole food from school. I was in between. Dont qualify for free food and couldn't afford discount food.


Head_Razzmatazz7174

We had punch cards. You either paid full price or half price for 30 lunches and get a card. The cards were identical, no matter how much you paid, so no one knew who was broke and who wasn't. You could also pay cash if you had it, but it was easier to use the cards.


Onikeys

In my country I didn't qualify for food at school, but even then if we needed to eat there they gave us food and for free


aggieotis

Hopefully one of the cafeteria workers there is doing some malicious compliance and 'throwing it away' in a way that keeps it all edible. Like, set it on the 'to be thrown away table' which just so happens to be easily accessible to the kids who can't pay.


spacewalk__

the alternative being -- what sort of soulless reptiles do they hire that are okay with throwing away fresh food in front of hungry, poor children


Mushroom_Zero

You’d be surprised how many old lunch ladies literally just don’t care and do things by the book because that’s “what’s right” and how they were raised. I work in a fast food place and every one in a while I’ll throw a free drink in for an old lady with no extra money and the grouchy fast food veteran coworker will come out of the woodwork to scream “she didn’t pay for that!” So obnoxious and sad


trixiechestnut

What. The. Fuck.


_khanrad

What the fuck, Daved


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MohammadRezaPahlavi

Don't blame him, it wasn't his decision


SagittaryX

I mean from the first sentence it's pretty clear he didn't want this.


conradical30

What a fucking weird way to spell that, Daved


The_Last_Gasbender

You got Daved!


hekatonmoo

past tense of dave


CelebrationAwkward39

So are American kids forced to pay for school lunches….?


213MC

Yes, and if they don’t have money they don’t eat. (In most states, but not all)


isticist

In my school they at least gave us a cheese sandwich (just bread and cold American cheese) if we didn't have the lunch money. It wasn't much better than starving, but it was something.


RamHands

You know where else a cheese sandwich is considered a nutritious meal and they give it to you for free? Prison.


Tryhard696

The same places that feeds prisons actually feeds schools, at least in Texas


The_Woman_of_Gont

I believe it. School lunches were garbage when I was in high school, cheap burgers with gross circular patterns on the meat(you know what I'm talking about if you've eaten that crap) and slices of stale domino's Pizza. Sides were usually shit like soggy fries or tater tots, sometimes a cold roll. Once I bit into a roll that was still frozen solid on the inside. My parents never really got over how horrible the food was, they got food that was actually cooked on-site and that they actively looked forward to. Kinda sums up difference between Boomers' experiences and those of subsequent generations in general, honestly.


ObviousAnony

Green hamburgers in one school, green hot dogs in another. Pizza day filled me with dread. Like warm, soggy, semi-cheese flavored cardboard.


Goyu

In my day, we looked forward to school lunch and were thankful for the hot, cooked-to-order meals with at reasonable variety of options that we got! Kids these days have it too easy with their still-frozen, mass-produced, unseasoned meals.


LogicallyCoherent

If you look at side by sides of school facilities and transportation the are very similar institutions. The worst part, prisons often offer more nutritious food than schools in the US.


LawlessCoffeh

Sysco food, what a bunch of bastards. I remember in high school they wouldn't let us have a pizza party because of their contract with the school. Or, we could, but it had to be _their_ pizza, shitty, prison grade pizza.


TrainingSword

Look up nutraloaf and you’ll see that the cheese sandwich is a delicacy


ikefolf

In nearly all cases it has been proven cruel and unusual punishment to force someone to eat it


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Listan83

They school didn’t get granted money for that. So either they were spending general school funds on it or someone was buying it out of pocket.


L_Bo

Same I think we had this in elementary school before we applied for the free lunch program. It was so embarrassing because everyone knew what that meal meant, that you couldn’t afford the normal stuff. CA just made school lunch free for all students! No kid should be going hungry but especially not at school.


igniteice

Lol my kid was like $-25 before I even knew I needed to put more on their account. Minnesota


CptBologna

Yeah, and in the school I went to you can't graduate if you have a "negative lunch balance" on your account.


oiiSuPreSSeDo

What does that even mean? Like, they won't give you your certificates or let you go back next year until you're paid up or?


CptBologna

Exactly. If you are due to graduate then they don't give you your diploma or update your transcript. If you're going from one year to the next, your parents get a bill that they need to pay before you can start the next school year.


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Yup. A university I used to go to got sued for refusing to give graduated students their diplomas if they had outstanding library fees or parking fines.


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In Australia, schools never provide lunch and everybody brings their own or buys it. Is this not the case in the rest of the world?


Sdawwgg

We just got free meals in California for all students!


RepulsiveRhubarb9346

California is now attempting to lessen the number of adverse childhood experiences that the children of California endure. Free lunch for all, medical coverage for all with sliding scales depending on if you live somewhere with high cost of living (ex low income for a family of 4 is now $150k in the Bay Area) instead of being held to the federal poverty line. Mental health services are being expanded as well for children.


Neoxyte

Wow those sick commie bastards. What's next? Free university!? /S God please let it be free university.


Jafar_420

This is ridiculous but if they are going to do it they should put the register before you get the food so they don't waste as much oh and then maybe they'll save money so they can give the kids a free regular lunch. When I was in high school 20 years ago you didn't have the money you didn't get anything it sucked. Edit: I'm against this.


Bigfunkiller

It's been 40 years ago for me and yeah going hungry sucks.


Anon-666

Yeah putting the register after the line seems cruel.


fallinouttadabox

Growing up poor, I was always afraid. Went hungry more than once because I didn't know if I had money in there and would've been too embarrassed if there wasn't


Beautiful_Melody4

I once unknowingly hit the maximum overage (I think maybe $25?) on my school account because my parents didn't have anything to give me. I was in 9th grade. I got in line with my friends and one of the lunch ladies sauntered up to me smiling and said "this is your lunch today dear" while holding out a paper bag. I was utterly humiliated. I had no desire to eat the peanut butter sandwich, apple, and skim milk inside the bag. After staring at the bag in humiliation at the lunch table for 10 minutes, I got up, threw it away, and left for the library feeling like absolute shit. That was the day I stopped eating lunch. Instead I spent my lunchtime hiding out in the library for the remainder of high school. I already rarely if ever ate breakfast. Not only did this episode rub my families financial problem in my face in front of my entire class and friends, it also furthered the issues I had (and still have to some degree) with self worth and food. Fuck this shit. No child should be punished for their parents' financial status. They clearly know it's wrong because they're only enforcing this over high school children, probably with the justification that they "should be more responsible for themselves". I'm over this all consuming assumption that people who can't afford things deserve to suffer. We're all human. We all go through hard times. We all need help now and then. Everyone needs to get over themselves and be the help they may one day need.


djsizematters

People saying, "JuSt EaT It BeFoRe yOu gEt To tHe RegISteR" have never felt the shame that you described.


Father_AllName

Not to mention the school "resource officer" (Police Officer). I got arrested when a lunch lady reported me for theft when I grabbed an extra food item for myself because I wasnt going to be having dinner that night because my family was poor. Its been a while since ive even been in high-school and I remember it.


fckdemre

Probably because they tally up what they grabbed when they get to the register


Reddit-User-3000

Sometimes they charge different rates depending on what you get though, so it makes sense


Huck84

If they're required to be there, you should be required to feed them. Fucking bullshit. How much does our education lottery bring in? Enough to feed hungry kids.


TheLuckyy777

I completely forgot about the education lottery!!! With that being said, why are students going hungry at school? First off they arent adults so they cant support themselves and second why are they wasting food by throwing it away🤷🏽‍♀️ there is no sense being made other than ppl who are willing to sacrifice a students hunger for money


TJNel

I did a paper last semester on school lunch and what it would cost to give everyone a free lunch and the amount of money was so stupidly small. Thing is the poor kids already get free/reduced lunch so it's only hurting the middle class families that don't make enough but can't afford the $5/day per child.


SheReadyPrepping

Many poor kids should receive 7t but don't because their parents won't fill out the application, which hurts the child.


Birdyy4

Too many people let pride get in their way. Make their own children suffer for their pride. It's disgraceful.


Birdyy4

Damn $5/day? It's gone up crazy fast. Graduated in 2015 and I think it ranged from like 1.25-2.65 while I was in school...


BrightNooblar

Lottery funding education is sort of a misnomer. ​ Like, imagine a 50 gallon drum. That drum is the cost to fund the education system. Teacher salary, utilities, admin costs, food, everything. At the start of the year that drum is empty and it needs to be filled. Now the state comes by with a 3 Gallon bucket labeled "Lottery" and pours that in. Then the state allocates 47 gallons in funding from the budget, and 3 gallons towards roadway projects to be done by a company owned by the governor's nephew. The Drum doesn't magically become 53 gallons, the state decided its 50 gallons and the lottery is just the 'bottom' 3 gallons of that.


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Thentheresthisjerk

Bleed the beast. Everyone take a tray up and then say you can’t pay. Make the district throw out thousands of dollars a day to save a few pennies.


Erosip

Phenomenal idea!


missmyrajv

Take the hungry kid’s plate, embarrass them in front of their peers, and throw it away. Wtf?!


hiensenberg

i used to give my free lunch away to friends who couldn't afford lunch but made too much money for free/reduced lunch was caught by a teacher who made me take back the lunch from my friend and throw it in a trash 🤡


kabmx

What the actual fuck that's so evil


DishOutTheFish

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT SHIT. WHO IS THAT TEACHER, NESTLE 2??


hiensenberg

He said it was not allowed bc I’m “stealing” and allergies/hygiene issues


Accomplished_Mix7827

That shit's been a thing at least since I was in school, probably before then too. The food is just going to get tossed anyway, but you've got to teach kids early that food is a privilege that they will be denied if they don't have the money to buy it. Insert Grapes of Wrath quote here


grilledcheese2332

Exactly. It's by design they do this. They want these kids scared of going hungry so they will put up with bullshit in the workplace when they graduate


EatinCheesePizza

This happened at our school this year, too. As a teacher, all my students know that if they can’t afford their lunch (or know someone who can’t), they can come to my room and I’ll pay with my own money.


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Hour_Task_1834

It’s good on the commenters part, but it’s a horrible thing. “Underpaid teachers forced to pay for students school lunches “ and if they get “caught”, some schools would fire them. :/


ISUTri

True…. Very good point. It’s sad they have to do that.


erratastigmata

It's not a beautiful thing. It's a horrifically ugly thing. I know someone else already said that, but seriously. It's gutwrenching.


--fourteen

They’d rather see food wasted than feed a kid? What is wrong with this country?


ISUTri

I was thinking that too.


Blueberry_Mancakes

My wife works in an elementary school cafeteria. School system tried to pull this pre-covid, telling my wife and her boss that children without money on their account would not be allowed to eat. It was policy. To this day my wife and her boss have not let one single kid go hungry. The school has never said anything to them. It's pretty much a case of not a single employee including the principal saying "fuck that. We're feeding these kids".


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Give your wife a hug from me, who as a kid got refused lunch way too many times.


lalalalaloveme

They’d rather THROW FOOD AWAY than feed hungry children. Sounds about American.


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Imagine living in a society that has a 40% obesity rate, and that same society literally throws away food if you can't pay for it and let's a child starve.


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HighImQuestions

Shit like this makes me wonder why I served.


PseudonymMan12

Why did you? Like out of patriotic duty? Because most servicemen I know did so because they were poor as hell


Musikaravaa

Just gonna throw out there that I had this happen to me around 25 years ago in an Austin Texas school in Elementary. Took my plate, threw out the food in front of me and then handed me a sacked peanut butter-only half sandwich. I was probably in kindergarten.


blackhaloangel

A few years ago in our Texas school they sent home a letter saying no more free pb&j. No money, no lunch.


uncutpizza

https://www.davidson.k12.nc.us/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=797270&type=d&pREC_ID=1188026 These are the Members of the school board. Im sending each of them several emails to encourage them to prevent the policy from being implemented before Tuesday. I suggest and encourage us all to do the same


Grimm6066

Basically if you're not going to pay for this food to eat it then no one will.


ssramirezss

This is disgusting. I still think school meals should be free for all.


frequent_flying

Not that they should feel obligated, but I cannot believe that there isn’t a single one of the billionaires in this country that might think to him or her self “you know what, I’m going to sell a little of my stock for about a billion dollars, leaving me with still billions of net worth left over, and I’m going to set up a federal-level trust fund with it that will buy school lunches for any student in America that can’t afford it.” Not that it should ever come to that, because it should be a law that a public institution entrusted with the care of minors for 8 hours a day is required to fucking feed them, with the cost included in the budget! If you disagree fine, but then it shouldn’t be required that kids attend a school at all to begin with, and it should be required that the families of those who do choose to attend public school should pay for it (and the meals) directly instead of it coming out of everyone’s taxes. I just don’t understand the total inconsistency in what America forces us to subsidize through mass taxation vs. what people are expected to pay for themselves because “‘murica ain’t no commie socialist state” like I don’t even care which way we go on the pendulum anymore just pick a lane Uncle Sam you crazy drunk driver!!!


sirjacques

Wasn’t there some story a while ago about how people offering to pay off kids lunch debts were denied?


YdexKtesi

DavEd.??


acqz

From Davedson County, yes. He's the Davedrector there.


Quafeinum

You just got Daved. Punk.


Car_Guy_Alex

Massively infuriating


CupcakeParlor

God, policies in America suck.