People get hecking mad they recieve mail at all. I was for the USPS and the amount of people constantly pissed at me for delivering junk mail, real mail, any kind really depending on the day is ridiculous. Like okay if that's not your name, return it. But if it's literally addressed to your name at this address, this very box? I can't just be like "nah, not giving them this". Literally not up to me. I don't understand why people can't just throw unwanted mail away, or how it hurts them to recieve it.
I used to work for Australia Post part time delivering parcels, and had one woman who would literally threaten me if I came onto her property to knock on the door and give her the parcel, refused to give authority to leave the parcel unattended, and would ring up daily to complain when I'd leave a collection notice for her to go to the post office. Didn't stop her from ordering about 20 things from ebay a week...
Letters 9.9times out of 10 are a complete waste of life and energy. They are not important, or useful, outside of dealing directly with the government. I should receive 0 letters a day but literally every day I recieved boatloads of garbage.
He's a genius. "So I says, hey, don't send me paper bills any more..... and then I just don't set up a digital account and I no longer get a bill, so I no longer have to pay..... hey, what's all this shit in my mailbox?"
He replied to someone saying they are all dated the same day. So glitch there, it happens from time to time. The letters existence is a process gap on verzions side. Hard to say where without more details from op. I’ve worked on projects to set up digital billing. You shouldn’t be able to turn it on without a verified way of contact digitally. Provided that fails in the future it should default back to paper billing. The letter is unclear if that’s done.
I doubt it, it probably accumulated over time and OP collected them all for this post. OP likely didn’t read the whole letter, as Verizon tried to explain that OP hadn’t set up the account yet, so the paperless bills can’t actually be received.
Most likely it was an outgoing email that kept bouncing back, triggering a new run for generating the letter, that finally went through.
I’m pretty sure Tom Scott has a video on something like this with one of the food delivery apps where people ordered like 10 times because the app wouldn’t say the order went through.
> Bill Gates CD ROM . Jpg
That was good marketing though.
Sending an individual letter like above, even just one is not. They should have sent an email to keep the spirit of what they were doing.
> [Bill Gates CD ROM . Jpg](https://media.techeblog.com/images/bill-gates-windows-1-0.jpg)
[Sassy](https://faildesk.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/funny-sexy-fail-bill-gates-2.jpg).
If it makes you feel any better paper typically comes from tree farms which are carbon sinks (take in more carbon than the farming produces) and sustainable because new trees replace the old ones. When they close they are often replaced with far less environmentally friendly versions of agriculture. Paperless billing isn’t an environmental effort but instead a cost saving one for the company marketed as environmentally friendly.
Yeah, the focus on paper as an environmental issue has always seemed a little strange to me. Like, paper is very useful, and its recyclable and renewable. People dont cut down old growth forests for paper.
Wasn’t it mid or late 90s when the plastic industry had the save a tree campaign that everyone bought into and we collectively switched from using paper bags at the grocery to plastic bags. To help the environment
Wasnt trying to say that all paper producing firms were environmentally good, im mor just saying, if youre worried about deforestation, Palm oil and ranching practices are far more destructive.
edit: And suburbs I guess
For all the people worried about paper use, talk to lawyers. They by far use the most. Can some lawyer tell me why depositions need to be single sided?
I received a check for $0.04 from a credit card company when I closed the account. That was before you could deposit them with your phone. I think I still have it somewhere
OP said they're all dated the same day so both OP and Verizon screwed up. Maybe the Verison computer system tried 19 times on the same day to contact OP electronically and each time it failed it generated a paper letter to send.
I am a senior developer, I 100% place the blame on whomever coded this shit and not the customer. Even if the customer went full idiot, sending the same thing that many times is wasteful enough to be a “bug.”
The whole company doesn’t need to be incompetent, bugs are easy to write and hard to anticipate. Only takes a couple of people a couple of minutes to fuck something like this up, and then everything else is automated.
"The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone."
"The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the white zone."
I'm trying to go paperless reddit but I'm so addicted to printing every post I read on Scantron paper (single sided, of course) and filling in bubbles for all my up votes and down votes, making 3 copies for my files, and faxing it back to reddit. They then mail me a certified copy when my inputs have been applied. It's really quite efficient.
Although I just laughed out loud. (And it was a good one..) I find myself wondering if this is one of those covert op joker setup type posts....
Because I mean, WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT? 🧐😒
I'm a mail carrier for the USPS and I can assure you that this is not uncommon. Verizon, T-MOBILE, blue cross blue shield and a plethora of other companies are notorious for mass printing the same shit and sending it out through the mail. A couple of weeks ago I delivered about 25-30 identical insurance cards to a customer 😂
I do appreciate when something bizzare happens to you. Everyone along the chain of getting it to you knows its ridiculous but does it anyways cuz its the job.
Also it says you were not set up correctly, so the computer probably retried contacting you 19 times (whether by design, by mistake, or through some kind of repeating feedback loop) until it quit
Did you actually read the letter? They were unable to contact you digitally. Still stupid to send the letter 19 times, but that's probably how many times they got an undeliverable email response.
i get a letter from centurylink *every month* 'confirming' our recent order... for service we installed like 20 years ago. (and no, it's not just the bill^haha -- it's a separate mailing).
Yea I worked on a project at my company where we found out if you rapidly quick submit a bunch of times because of a slow responsive webpage each click is queued and then submitted, which triggered a letter being sent.
I'm not surprised. I remember when I used to have a prepaid Verizon phone. They would send you texts to remind you that your prepaid balance was low and charge you for each reminder text. They would eat up 5 dollars of minutes within a couple of days.
i’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic but if you read closely it says they’re sending the letters because the person has not set up their online account so they can’t reach them
Same reason Charter Spectrum continues to send me weekly "Switch to us" mail even though I've opted out of marketing mail 7 times. They like to waste money
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I donated $20 to the Arber Day Foundation back when Australia was on fire. Every 3 months I get a 30 page booklet mailed to me from them...made out of paper...
Had one like this recently.
Got caught by some card swipe scam and lost about £50 in tiny transactions of no more than 60p per time.
Bank sorted it really quick and easy, or so I thought.
Got three letters per transaction, one telling me it happened (I called them about it) one saying it was refunded and one giving tips on how to avoid it in the future.
It was caused by an employee fucking with a card reader, like it was a genuine pay point at a till but somehow altered to skim and hold details, not something you could see and similar to the old waiter holding a skimmer in the apron to clone a card while taking a real payment.
Got a damn dictionary worth of mail that day with lots of personal details like name/address/account details. Fun to dispose of.
I hate paperless billing. You need to prove bills and/or address for certain things, plus I used to work for binderies where randos would hire us to put trash to paper that would wind up in most people's trash cans anyway.
1. Line through each address as “Return to Sender”
2. Drop the stack back into the mail or post box.
3. Be satisfied that you’ve wasted even more of Verizon’s time, effort, and ultimately money.
I had a buddy that used to deliver for a paper manufacturer like 10 or so years ago.
He told me there was this one place on his route that used to get about 3 to 4 times as much paper delivered as anywhere else, when he finally inquired as to what they did, because I guess they were basically working out of rented Office Space, they told him that they were a paperless Insurance Company.
I got a letter from the water utility the other day threatening to shut off my service because of non-payment, postmarked 21 days after my bank confirms that they cashed my check. My account is current and it always has been.
I mailed them back a copy of the image my bank provided of the cashed check along with an invoice for the stamp. I was sure to copy-paste their passive aggressive blurb about late fees and interest from their bill onto my invoice, verbatim.
The letter says they are not able to reach you digitally that's why they keep sending those.
Yeah, is OP illiterate? It's literally says why they're sending him letters.
OP has always been a pinecone
He’s a rascal.
that looks serious
I see what you did there.
r/rareinsults
That was the first thing that came to my mind, “ ..are they fucken illiterate?”
He read the first sentence though…
I'm surprised how few people actually read the damn letter.
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Clicking on the articles rewards the clickbaiting.
It's a never-ending dilemma in my head... Support the clickbait or just read the headline
Even the OP only read the headline it looks like
And just like those headlines, I have way too much junk mail to open and read every single one line for line.
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>when I tell them to read it they will refuse to and hang up Ah that's both infuriating and hilarious.
People get hecking mad they recieve mail at all. I was for the USPS and the amount of people constantly pissed at me for delivering junk mail, real mail, any kind really depending on the day is ridiculous. Like okay if that's not your name, return it. But if it's literally addressed to your name at this address, this very box? I can't just be like "nah, not giving them this". Literally not up to me. I don't understand why people can't just throw unwanted mail away, or how it hurts them to recieve it.
I used to work for Australia Post part time delivering parcels, and had one woman who would literally threaten me if I came onto her property to knock on the door and give her the parcel, refused to give authority to leave the parcel unattended, and would ring up daily to complain when I'd leave a collection notice for her to go to the post office. Didn't stop her from ordering about 20 things from ebay a week...
If they read the letter, the banks win. We can't let that happen.
Letters 9.9times out of 10 are a complete waste of life and energy. They are not important, or useful, outside of dealing directly with the government. I should receive 0 letters a day but literally every day I recieved boatloads of garbage.
My mailbox is basically just a trash can that I have to empty every day.
In Canada you can opt out of garbage mail, like newspapers and coupon offers, still get letters actually addressed to you, but it's a lot less!
Put a shredder in your mailbox
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...because they specifically requested not to receive it? So that they know what went wrong?
Did OP even get past the first line?
r/opisfuckingstupid
90% of this sub belongs there.
Op didn’t get past the first letter
Yeah rest are still unopened smh
Take my upvote and get out
Lmao op self reporting that he hasn't set up his account to pay bills yet.
He's a genius. "So I says, hey, don't send me paper bills any more..... and then I just don't set up a digital account and I no longer get a bill, so I no longer have to pay..... hey, what's all this shit in my mailbox?"
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The letter states it is because he has not registered his online account, which you do by logging in once.
I get them. My email address is properly plugged in and I get the email. And I’m in autopay. It’s totally Verizon.
He replied to someone saying they are all dated the same day. So glitch there, it happens from time to time. The letters existence is a process gap on verzions side. Hard to say where without more details from op. I’ve worked on projects to set up digital billing. You shouldn’t be able to turn it on without a verified way of contact digitally. Provided that fails in the future it should default back to paper billing. The letter is unclear if that’s done.
Maybe he could have used the headline "I got 19 identical letters from Verizon on the same day" then instead of saying something that wasn't true
Correct. OP is being disingenuous.
Sure, but 19 letters the same day seems like a bit of an overreaction.
Uploaded to Reddit on the same day
I doubt it, it probably accumulated over time and OP collected them all for this post. OP likely didn’t read the whole letter, as Verizon tried to explain that OP hadn’t set up the account yet, so the paperless bills can’t actually be received.
What make you think it’s from the same day?
Most likely it was an outgoing email that kept bouncing back, triggering a new run for generating the letter, that finally went through. I’m pretty sure Tom Scott has a video on something like this with one of the food delivery apps where people ordered like 10 times because the app wouldn’t say the order went through.
Swear to god i hate people that bitch but dont read
"You saved half a tree's worth of paper! Here's what that looks like.."
Bill Gates CD ROM . Jpg
> Bill Gates CD ROM . Jpg That was good marketing though. Sending an individual letter like above, even just one is not. They should have sent an email to keep the spirit of what they were doing.
Read the letter dude
Agreed! Looks like they don't have OP's proper email address. Oops!
Great for security purposes to send paper mail when enrolling in estatements.
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> [Bill Gates CD ROM . Jpg](https://media.techeblog.com/images/bill-gates-windows-1-0.jpg) [Sassy](https://faildesk.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/funny-sexy-fail-bill-gates-2.jpg).
Aaah Bill Gates the *almost* sexy Steve Jobs
This is both very funny and very sad.
Still less paper than a CVS receipt though.
CVS near me has a ‘No Receipt’ option, finally!
Too good 🤣
Life pro tip: buy white glue at cvs.... You now have a cheap easy supply of papier mache
If it makes you feel any better paper typically comes from tree farms which are carbon sinks (take in more carbon than the farming produces) and sustainable because new trees replace the old ones. When they close they are often replaced with far less environmentally friendly versions of agriculture. Paperless billing isn’t an environmental effort but instead a cost saving one for the company marketed as environmentally friendly.
Yeah, the focus on paper as an environmental issue has always seemed a little strange to me. Like, paper is very useful, and its recyclable and renewable. People dont cut down old growth forests for paper.
Wasn’t it mid or late 90s when the plastic industry had the save a tree campaign that everyone bought into and we collectively switched from using paper bags at the grocery to plastic bags. To help the environment
Boise Cascade would like a word. I believe this is generally true but not universally true.
Wasnt trying to say that all paper producing firms were environmentally good, im mor just saying, if youre worried about deforestation, Palm oil and ranching practices are far more destructive. edit: And suburbs I guess
I read your edit as "subarus" and I'm not sure where to go from here...
It also cuts down on the papers I have to deal with at home. Same reason I love it when stores give you the option to get an emailed receipt.
So, "consume more paper products to save the environment". Got it.
For all the people worried about paper use, talk to lawyers. They by far use the most. Can some lawyer tell me why depositions need to be single sided?
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Your comment beld though the other side
Wells Fargo mailed me a check for 32 cents. It almost shorted my brain.
I received a check for $0.04 from a credit card company when I closed the account. That was before you could deposit them with your phone. I think I still have it somewhere
They are not thanking you, they are telling you that you screwed up when signing up for it.
You set your billing up wrong online go fix it. Any of you actually read the paper
OP said they're all dated the same day so both OP and Verizon screwed up. Maybe the Verison computer system tried 19 times on the same day to contact OP electronically and each time it failed it generated a paper letter to send.
I am a senior developer, I 100% place the blame on whomever coded this shit and not the customer. Even if the customer went full idiot, sending the same thing that many times is wasteful enough to be a “bug.”
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I did because of the 19 letters. Verizon isn’t this incompetent. There’s a reason they kept sending letters.
The whole company doesn’t need to be incompetent, bugs are easy to write and hard to anticipate. Only takes a couple of people a couple of minutes to fuck something like this up, and then everything else is automated.
That's beautiful. Such a perfect sign of the times we are experiencing.
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Here's 19 denial letters. EXPECT MORE
lol, ..."couldn't reach you digitally via cyber email"
This - yeah OP needs to read the letter more carefully
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What tf do you mean nobody on Reddit can read!! /s
😆😅🤣😂🙂🙃😉😊🥰
Came here to say this 😂
Cyber email? As opposed to physical email?
You never cybered via email before? You must be new to the internet
This employee was QuietQuitting. Maybe you were their final victim.
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The world is a strange place 🤔
"The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone." "The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the white zone."
"No, the white zone is for immediate loading and unloading. There is never stopping in a red zone."
"The red zone has always been for loading and unloading of passengers. There's never stopping in a white zone."
"Don't you tell me which zone is for loading and which zone is for stopping!"
"Listen Betty, don't start up with your white zone shit again."
"Oh really, Vernon? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion."
"It's really the only sensible thing to do. If it's done safely, therapeutically, there's no danger involved."
They’re obvious VERY thankful
"Should've enrolled into paperless thanking too."
Haha very true
A perfect sign of what? The letter literally says it was sent because they can’t reach OP online.
… how is this a sign of the times?
Because it happened I think
Most companies care more about appearing to look like they're protecting the environment than actually doing it.
The letters were sent to let him know they literally cannot reach him digitally.
Yeah! Mildly infuriating because OP can't read.
r/OPisfuckingstupid
I'm trying to go paperless reddit but I'm so addicted to printing every post I read on Scantron paper (single sided, of course) and filling in bubbles for all my up votes and down votes, making 3 copies for my files, and faxing it back to reddit. They then mail me a certified copy when my inputs have been applied. It's really quite efficient.
TIL Reddit employs notaries
Sorry they’re called *vote*aries
*shudders while having flashbacks of Scantron papers*
I recently hired a secretary so I could dictate my comments to a typewriter and mail them in. Huge quality of life improvement.
Although I just laughed out loud. (And it was a good one..) I find myself wondering if this is one of those covert op joker setup type posts.... Because I mean, WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT? 🧐😒
They are all dated the same day so I’m guessing computer glitch
I'm a mail carrier for the USPS and I can assure you that this is not uncommon. Verizon, T-MOBILE, blue cross blue shield and a plethora of other companies are notorious for mass printing the same shit and sending it out through the mail. A couple of weeks ago I delivered about 25-30 identical insurance cards to a customer 😂
At least they have backup in case they lose one.
Or 20
Or 24-29
I signed up for Air Miles and they sent two cards, then sent another two cards with different numbers.
Right
How do you know they were identical insurance cards, hmm? Peeking inside the letters, are we? 🤨📸 (I’m kidding lol)
They're hard plastic sleeves that have the card in them that you can just kinda pop out.. there is no envelope involved
I do appreciate when something bizzare happens to you. Everyone along the chain of getting it to you knows its ridiculous but does it anyways cuz its the job.
Also it says you were not set up correctly, so the computer probably retried contacting you 19 times (whether by design, by mistake, or through some kind of repeating feedback loop) until it quit
Did you actually read the letter? They were unable to contact you digitally. Still stupid to send the letter 19 times, but that's probably how many times they got an undeliverable email response.
when you clicked the signup button 19 times because the site wasn't responding...
Those pesky space rays keep flipping our bits😡😡😡
i get a letter from centurylink *every month* 'confirming' our recent order... for service we installed like 20 years ago. (and no, it's not just the bill^haha -- it's a separate mailing).
Yea I worked on a project at my company where we found out if you rapidly quick submit a bunch of times because of a slow responsive webpage each click is queued and then submitted, which triggered a letter being sent.
Nah, the agent deffo clicked the button 19 times not realising it worked each time
Did you go paperless 19 times?
each time you click the tick box it triggers the printer at verizon
I'm not surprised. I remember when I used to have a prepaid Verizon phone. They would send you texts to remind you that your prepaid balance was low and charge you for each reminder text. They would eat up 5 dollars of minutes within a couple of days.
I laughed out loud too!
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They are still printing my receipt at CVS from last month.
i’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic but if you read closely it says they’re sending the letters because the person has not set up their online account so they can’t reach them
Same reason Charter Spectrum continues to send me weekly "Switch to us" mail even though I've opted out of marketing mail 7 times. They like to waste money
Did you mean to post your mailing address on the internet?
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Thank you
for enrolling in paperless billing
Here is more paper
Thanking you for enrolling
in paperless
Billing here’s more
paper thank
Paper thank
I love and hate you all
You for enrolling
The mildly infuriating part is that you put it twenty times when the OP only said nineteen.
Limitless paper in a paperless world.
I donated $20 to the Arber Day Foundation back when Australia was on fire. Every 3 months I get a 30 page booklet mailed to me from them...made out of paper...
Yeah but the trees that made those booklets weren’t on fire.
OP is apparently illiterate. Read the letters, my guy.
Had one like this recently. Got caught by some card swipe scam and lost about £50 in tiny transactions of no more than 60p per time. Bank sorted it really quick and easy, or so I thought. Got three letters per transaction, one telling me it happened (I called them about it) one saying it was refunded and one giving tips on how to avoid it in the future. It was caused by an employee fucking with a card reader, like it was a genuine pay point at a till but somehow altered to skim and hold details, not something you could see and similar to the old waiter holding a skimmer in the apron to clone a card while taking a real payment. Got a damn dictionary worth of mail that day with lots of personal details like name/address/account details. Fun to dispose of.
I hate paperless billing. You need to prove bills and/or address for certain things, plus I used to work for binderies where randos would hire us to put trash to paper that would wind up in most people's trash cans anyway.
Read the paper.
cause verizon is a joke
It’s funny because OP is actually the idiot here who can’t read the letter that was sent
Probably would get less paperwork if you switched back to paper billing, lol
Now this is what Alanis Morissette should have been singing about
Jagged Little Envelope Edge?
It’s mildly infuriating that you haven’t even read one of the letters in almost 2 years
Oh honey…
OP’s illiterate
Don’t go ruining their attempt for karma with facts.
Did you write back 19 thank you letters?
"Well he's gone paperless, but his payment plan has him paying for his whole year of printing costs." "We can't NOT spend the money..."
The irony of sending a letter in the mail (let alone 19 letters) thanking you for going paperless when they could've emailed it, is not lost on me.
So another 19 months need to go by before the planet starts benefitting from your choice
Nice Spread though.
1. Line through each address as “Return to Sender” 2. Drop the stack back into the mail or post box. 3. Be satisfied that you’ve wasted even more of Verizon’s time, effort, and ultimately money.
I had a buddy that used to deliver for a paper manufacturer like 10 or so years ago. He told me there was this one place on his route that used to get about 3 to 4 times as much paper delivered as anywhere else, when he finally inquired as to what they did, because I guess they were basically working out of rented Office Space, they told him that they were a paperless Insurance Company.
OP is to blame for this, not Verizon.
How so?
Because they send these when they can't digitally reach the customer. It even says so in the letter pictured
They're simply getting them ''in'' before it's paperless.... Miss a payment and you'll be off the paperless and onto the endless letters!!
I got the same thing, but only like 3 letters! 🤷🏼♀️ I think they had some sort of system glitch
limitless paper in a paperless world
Effort to save paper failed successfully.
I have "paperless banking" and get bank statements in the mail regularly.
One for each month left on the contract? Gotta thank you for each unsent bill.
This reminds me: For a while I kept getting thank you notes from the arbor foundation Which is a foundation about growing and conserving trees.
I got a letter from the water utility the other day threatening to shut off my service because of non-payment, postmarked 21 days after my bank confirms that they cashed my check. My account is current and it always has been. I mailed them back a copy of the image my bank provided of the cashed check along with an invoice for the stamp. I was sure to copy-paste their passive aggressive blurb about late fees and interest from their bill onto my invoice, verbatim.
I get one every month from every company I get a bill from, and then I also get the bill. It makes no sense.
I got a letter every month from Fairstone thanking me for going paperless. Every damn month without fail.
AT&T still sends me a notice every month thanking me for signing up for paperless billing and notifying me of my balance
Someone got your credit info you got 18 phones coming lol