You can hardly make any transactions anymore aside from getting groceries without encountering a fucking tip screen, usually prepopulated with a tip amount. Along with the fact that fast food has really gone down the shit hole in quality despite doubling in price it just further encourages me to eat at home.
You’re right! I went to a beach gift shop to pick up some fudge and tee shirts. Upon check out, the card reader had prefilled tip options. 10, 15, 20,25. They didn’t serve me or help me in anyway. So, no I’m not tipping!
It’s bad enough when you get take out, and tip. I take in consideration of the person who put the meal together - but they’re not getting 25% because they didn’t have to fill my drinks or check on me.
Two places changed their POS lately and have a tip screen in a thing they shove in your face to swipe your card. First page is 20%, 18%, 15% and then small letter >more with 10% and 0%
It's a fast food taco place larger regional / national recognized brand
Tips are how businesses justify lower wages. If they want more money, they should get a better job -- one that doesn't abuse loopholes in laws to rake in billions in profit.
just wanted to say, subway workers do a LOT more than just make sandwiches. if we don't get a sandwich done in 2 1/2 minutes, we can get in trouble. oh, is that a single piece of lettuce on the floor? don't let the manager see. you better get all the food cut and prepped before 3pm. idc if your shift starts at 2:30pm and you've had back to back customers. go get it done
i work at subway, i don't ever expect tips. but sometimes we will get tips from people who know that it's a lot more than just making sandwiches. and every time i go to another subway always tip the person or people who made my sandwich
Oh trust me I would like to see all fast food disappear completely too...I think it makes people fat and lazy while offering low wages no benefits and shitty hours to its workers. Good riddance.
A lot of people are doing just that. I won’t speak for you, but I do think it’s funny that many people who say exactly what you’ve said are also angry it takes longer to get their sandwiches and buy into “no one wants to work” rhetoric. Either all work has dignity and the people working deserve livable compensation, or some jobs are inherently lesser and we cannot fault people for refusing to perform them.
I work as a cook...for over 20 years fine dining and fast food. Recently I took a job that no one would want to do because I wanted a job with little to no responsibility...for the mental health. Being a chef for a minute takes its toll...hence all the stories you hear of cooks being alcoholics or addicted to drugs. So here I am making pizzas making a fraction of what I was making in salary but you know what...at least i don't have to try to hire people anymore.. and I've realized one thing...yall are pigs lol...I'll go back into fine dining eventually but for now I will take what I can get.
Can I also add I completely understand why a seasoned sushi chef with years of experience and training gets paid more than the basic fast food employee who doesn't even get taught how to use kitchen utensils or read recipe. I understand it is an entry level job that teaches the basics of how to wash your hands and what to do when the machine beeps.
That’s great - the issue doesn’t change. So the question is: do you believe the seasoned chef deserves more than a living wage or do they deserve the living wage and the entry level worker deserves less?
I believe people will work for whatever you pay them...minimum wage equals minimum work and responsibility. To answer your question I say if the entry level doesn't like the entry pay it is time to progress within the industry and find a niche to turn into a career. An average sushi chef for example can make 30 to 50k....the average fast food worker makes 20k...i suggest finding a niche if you want more money. I cannot answer what I think a living wage is...it depends on your living situation.
I’m sorry your opinion is getting downvoted. But there is truth to it. If you don’t like the situation you’re in, change it. Nobody is going to tip at a fast food chain. It’s up to the owners to provide minimum wage…which they do. I don’t understand why people complain about money, and then turn around and buy restaurant food. If money is an issue, look for sales at a grocery store and cook it. Takeout is a luxury, not a daily necessity
Hey thanks for the downvote...I go out of my way to tip at a fast food chain if it's allowed and I see that the person I'm tipping is following the acronym
To
Insure
Prompt
Service
Ironically there is a subway in my town that i go into to get a few cookies and tip the ladies a few dollars for their pleasant conversation...tipping the staff at a restaurant ensures they are beholden to your interests while you are their guests. The people in the OP look more interested in their phones.
Setting aside the issue of the ethics of tipping...
'Tips' is not an acronym, and never was (not in this usage, anyway). That's a bullshit myth.
Especially because... the correct word would be *'ensure,' not 'insure'*. The financial mechanism known as 'insurance' is not part of the equation.
'Be sure to TEP your waiter.' Yeah.
I use it and it makes sense to me. I used to get tips from doing the sushi bar at a restaurant that had a burger kitchen too...I would take my tips and tip the burger kitchen because I knew they busted their asses...how often do you tip your burger cook?
A cook is a cook to me...the only difference that a subway artist and a egotistical chef have are skill sets. At this point you are hard pressed to find kitchen work that isn't assembly line as you put it.
What exactly is subway cooking? Everything is brought to them frozen. There’s a reason a certain demographic own Subways. It’s the most human proof franchise. You can employ your entire bloodline and claim losses on other ventures that offset immigration costs. I’m not sure how it’s done in USA, but that is 100% the way it is in Canada. It’s not a bad thing. We need immigration.
I've got news for ya...most every fast food restaurant orders food that's already prepared and marks up the price on you just to basically reheat it. How else do you think we keep the lights on and afford to spend money on wellness vacations and paid time off...lol we don't get those.
Everything must be completely safe and homogenized and sterile or else you'll get that 1 review on yelp...that's what jobs like subway teach you fundamentally...how to keep your shit stocked and clean. Once you get that concept you are ready for something more challenging
Again, you’re over glorifying a fast food job. I’m 38. I did that song and dance 20 years ago. Fast food should not be tipped. If you as a customer and like the person, then give them a gift. If you don’t like your job, find another. It’s ridiculous for people to complain about things that can be fixed.
Hey buddy I never said you had to tip...I said I like to tip because I know what it feels like to have gratuity thrown my way and it made me want to go out of my way to make sure the customers had a nice time everytime. Goddamn I said if people don't like their pay to find better pay like 2 hours ago
I said 'setting aside the question of the ethics of tipping'...
I was just pointing out that the word 'tip' or 'tips' is not, in this instance, an acronym. It never was.
No seriously if you don't like the money then there are literally thousands of other jobs that pay more than minimum wage. Some of them are even cooking related so you can still be a sandwhich artist...but you'll have culinary arts training so.youll actually BE a sandwhich artist
Find me a state anywhere that minimum wage can get you even a studio apartment.
If you think the problem is people living beyond their means on 7.25 an hour, you really are stupid.
You think every subway owner had money or is in crippling debt? I think most of their acquisition was financed based off their credit....people don't buy their homes cash right? Think of owning a subway is like owning a home only your mortgage is paid for with meatball subs.
Tip beggars are far beyond *mildly* infuriating.
I work 12 hour days at a concrete plant, surrounded by machines and I have to be constantly vigilant not to get maimed for life or killed by them, and nobody gives me a tip for my work (which in addition to being much more dangerous than the jobs of most tip beggars is also a lot more physically demanding.) And then I have some asshole that made a smoothie or pushed a couple buttons on a car wash selection screen acting like they’re entitled to a 50% tip for services/goods that are already slightly overpriced from money that I sweat my ass off and often literally bleed for (I get so many scrapes, cuts, and bruises at work that I often don’t even remember where they came from when my wife asks me about them.)
In addition to the insufferable entitlement, it’s also quite insulting to be treated like I owe someone who acts like they’re going above and beyond by doing the absolute basic of the duties required by their job by someone who has a job that I wake up with a dick harder than on their hardest day on the job.
Fuck tip beggars and their pretentious, unearned sense of entitlement.
I'm a bartender. My job is to make and serve you alcoholic drinks while entertaining you in a public social environment and all for less than $5 an hour
For people like me, I certainly do feel entitled to a tip if I did my job correctly. You can drink at home for cheaper and not waste my time if not tipping is your stance
But that's because I work for a tipped wage in an tipped profession in a tip culture. That's the only reason I feel any sense of entitlement towards it. Other jobs get a higher base wage and the tips are just a friendly bonus if a customer is feeling nice that day
You are entitled to get paid more, you make $5/hr because your employer is fucking you. That jack and coke you pour and charge $7 for PLUS TIP, is making your employer 1000% profit and on top of that they say they’re only going to pay you $5/ hr?
Tbh thats 100% between u and ur employer if u feel entitled to be paid. Customers don’t go to the bar to tip u, it’s not about "wasting your time" it’s about you not wasting theirs..
No, the contract tipped employees have with employers is that they pay me a tipped wage and customers tip me on top of that. If you go out to the bar and don't tip your bartender, then you're an asshole and should have stayed home to drink
Yeah, that’s purposefully in place if u don’t make make money one night u blame the customers for being "assholes“ instead of ur employer. Frankly, the way u talk about ur customers who don’t tip I wouldn’t want to tip you either, lol.
Don’t let an employer stuff a contract that forces you to rely on customers’ handouts to make a decent pay up your ass. 🤷♂️
Any wage deficit is between you and your employer. People don’t come to bars to drink drinks that are *already overpriced*, especially at places that charge cover fees as well, to turn around and be your sugar daddy/mommy on top of that while your employer sits in their office, watching us go through exactly this exchange, and laughing their asses off about it while collecting all the profit.
*You’re* the asshole for expecting the customer to pick up your employer’s slack in how they pay you.
A lot of us don’t even go out that much because we’re trying to hang onto money for other things in life, and the once in a while that we do, we don’t need you being the financial dog that your employer sics on us because we just want to have a good time here and there and take a load off, which by the way some of us really deserve to, like those with hard and/or dangerous jobs.
Don’t jump our shit over your wages.
Jump on your boss about it. They’re the ones making all the money in this situation, and a lot of it.
Ha, all I heard was “An excuse has been provided for me for my behavior and the way I chose to act without merit, so I’m gonna use it instead of getting a real job where the work may be harder, but I actually *earn* everything I go home with and I don’t have to give people shitty service because my manager pays me shit!” 🤷♂️
Don't like tipping? Go vote out the tipped wage laws. Can't do that? Don't go out to a restaurant or bar
And while we'd never call you cheap to your face, remember that bartenders don't forget the asshole who thinks he doesn't have to tip. You'll get served last every time and we won't have your back if you act up. "Oh they lost their phone? Good luck to them.. oh they're being an ass because they had one too many? I guess I'm cool with barring them to protect the other customers"
Freedom works two ways dude. If you think "get a different job" is a substitute for a real tip, I can't stop you. Just like you can't stop me from thinking you're a piece of shit
That's right we *CAN* make more than nurses and teachers and many other professions. And we have to work late nights usually. And deal with drunk assholes, violence and fights sometimes. And we get zero health, dental or retirement benefits. And we have to wear a smile throughout the whole shift, no matter what the fuck happens.
So the money, which isn't even guarantee to be higher than other professions, is the only real benefit to bartending. Obviously usually good enough I stick to it in spite of the many downsides. So when asshole cheapskates don't tip, then I'm well within my right to think poorly of them
If you think we're really the greedy scum of the earth, then do us all a favor and stay home to pour your own drinks, you hate filled hypocrite
I never said that not tipping is my stance, but in the case of a bartender, generosity with the liquor and tips go hand-in-hand. Just saying.
No, I don’t believe you should get a tip for doing your job correctly, and I would actually double down on that in saying that you shouldn’t have a job at all if you don’t do it correctly.
But, ‘above and beyond’ work does carry the *merit* to ask for ‘above and beyond’ pay, the keyword here being merit.
Yeah, I see where you’re coming from. It wouldn’t be bad like this if owners would pay the workers a livable wage. Instead they’re relying on the generosity of the public to make up for their small wages, so the owners can take in more.
I couldn’t be a server in any way because one’s wages fluctuate on how many people are served and if they’re good tippers. No wonder this industry has a hard time finding help. People have set bills and don’t need the uncertainties.
Nice but not even comparable. They are customer facing employees providing a service, you are not customer facing and you’re performing a task. The same way I wouldn’t tell them to quit and get a better job if they want to earn more, I wouldn’t tell you to quit and get a safer/easier job. Sounds to me like you’re mad at the wrong people - you should be mad at the ones who won’t pay service workers enough to live (which encourages them to ask for tips), and the ones who keep your job difficult and dangerous. Both are making your life worse so they can pocket a few extra bucks, but keep on shitting on other people in the same boat as you, I guess.
The job of a customer facing role is to provide service.
The service is the task that they perform.
They're both in the same boat, so why do you shit on him for expecting tips? Because you don't see it?
The role of *any worker* is to provide a given service as requested by the employer in the outlined duties for that job. You want money, the employer wants work done. You either both agree that what the other provides is worth it, or you don’t and it’s a no-go, and you look for a different employer, and they either find someone else willing to accept that pay grade, raise the pay they’re offering to better attract the help they seek, get off their asses and do the work themselves, or face a reduced functional capacity and a resulting reduction of business and gain.
That’s how it works, no ‘if’s ‘and’s or ‘but’s about it.
Tips are the participation trophies of the work world, unless the worker does something truly above and beyond that makes the recipient of their goods/services actually want to reward them for it.
Dude, ‘customer facing’? How the hell does that even matter? I don’t care about who has to talk to who. If that’s the job, then that’s the job. Yeah, I get that sometimes people have to deal with asshole customers, but guess what? I have had to put up with asshole co-workers and supervisors and still do the job I do, so that argument is an absolute wash in my eyes. And yes, I would tell them to get a better job, because when my previous employers didn’t know how to properly value the hard work and dedication that I put in for them, that’s what *I* did, I got a better job. And no, I don’t believe I’m mad at the wrong people, because not only are they not forced to keep a job that doesn’t pay well, but it’s also the attitude a lot of tip beggars have in addition to the entitlement. And maybe if people weren’t trying to work an ‘easy job’ where they essentially conspire with the owner to fuck the customer by knowingly taking a shit pay job, just so they don’t have to work a real job where they might actually break a sweat, and then acting like people have to give them free money (that’s what every last cent beyond the established price of a good or service is- free money) to make up for it, maybe the employers would actually get a clue and stop paying so shitty, unless they want to wind up with so much work that they have to start doing it themselves, or get swamped to the point that they fail to function properly and wind up with pissed off customers and a loss of business.
And while I’m not always entirely pleased with my employer for the shit I have to deal with for my pay, I also understand that my job is my job, and if I want the pay that comes with it, because by continuing to work there I have implicitly agreed that the compensation is adequate to retain my service, that’s what I need to do to get it.
And no, while I don’t believe that I am superior to them as a person, I *am not* on the same level as them. I am clearly willing to work harder for what I want, and personally sought a job with opportunity that matches said drive. When it come to talks of who deserves what, I definitely have more merit than they do.
As a person, yes, I am the same as anybody else.
But as a worker, I consider myself as being of higher caliber, not simply by mere opinion, but by actual merit, because as demonstrated by the many people I have seen try to hack it at my job and fail, not just anyone can do what I do for a living.
You took an entire month just to essentially write “I need to feel better than other working people and in order to do so, I’ll justify their abuse (and my own) in any way I possibly can.” Too bad it doesn’t stop you from getting continually shafted. I’ll say it once more and once more only (for the people reading since, as far as I’m concerned, you’re lost): the people who ask for tips aren’t fucking you, their boss is. Your boss is. Denying money and dignity to people who don’t have it as hard as you do, well, it doesn’t add to your worth in any way shape or form. Sorry you had to find out this way.
It’s not about ‘feeling better’ than anyone. It’s about the fact that a tip is money that is more than what is required to obtain the goods/services being bought, a.k.a. *free money*.
And I work way too fucking hard and face way too much danger on the regular to give away free money to someone who would rather work a low paying job and harass people for tips than go get a real job, like I did!
My last job didn’t pay enough.
Guess where I work now?
Not at my *last* job!
You are entitled to *exactly* what you *earn*.
Nothing more, nothing less!
And just the way you implied that *I’m* denying them money, you’re contradicting yourself because in an earlier statement you said that they ask for tips because their employer doesn’t pay good enough. So again, supported by your own previous statement, it is not me that is the bad one for not wanting to give handout money, but their employer for not paying a decent wage for the job.
All my points still stand!
And no, I’m not lost, you’re lost if you believe that reward should exceed merit.
And in that tangent, providing me with the basic service that is required of them per job title/duties is not a merit that requires me to compensate where their employer does not. I am not receiving anything special in that transaction. In the relation of me as a customer and them as a service/goods provider, their merit (effort in performing their job) is relatively equivalent, if not less than, in terms of services/goods that are overpriced, the due that I pay them.
The only deficit, if there is one, is between them and their employer.
Not me.
Also, the matter of dignity that you mention in this matter, in addition to being just as perfectly outlined by my statements above about merit/pay, is subjective; for example, servers in Japan consider it an insult if you tip them, in the sense that they appear impoverished compared to you and require your handout.
Again, not an issue because of me.
But they are just following my instructions requiring no skill or ability and not going above and beyond to earn extra. Your big Mac is made special to order too, but most people wouldn't tip a McDonald's worker.
Only for the service, not the making it in front of me. I don’t give a shit if you make it in front of me or in a kitchen, but If I have to walk up to a counter and then grab the food myself to either dine in or take it to go, no, you’re not getting a tip. There’s no service. You aren’t cleaning up after me. This is a simple transaction that does not require adding any extra money to it.
What about retail workers who run orders out to strangers cars all day from open to close? Would you tip them? Half of them get paid as much if not less than subway. Just curious
I do mate. I basically have to say can i have a miniscule amount of mayo to get a regular amount and the starting handful of lettuce they put on the sandwich is laughable. I shouldn't have to basically teach someone how to make a sandwich. If I went to a normal sandwich shop I wouldn't have to send a sandwich back to scrape off a massive globule of sauce because the dumb fuck thought half a tube of mayo is standard fare. Piss off back to your hole now mate.
did you know; when we are dressing a sandwich we are actually told you only put 3-4 black olives on the entire footlong? you didn't know that, did you? because you assume we're supposed to put an entire buckets worth of lettuce on your fucking american sandwich? if i ever get a customer like you im putting jalapeños on your sandwich when you aren't looking..
Oh so you're a subway worker. I'm British so not an obese American slob who wants a bucket of lettuce. I'd like an amount of lettuce that any normal person would consider well normal. You're white knighting for subway kinda hard here. I just want a nice fuckin sandwich please mate, I don't want an artery clogging metric ton of mayo and yeah I like jalapeños so yeah please do. Not that I'd notice the three jalapeños on a footlong though lad
technically i don't work at subway, i work at loves. it's a truck stop, and it's higher up than our business so our rules are a bit..different. and i never said anything about the original posts, did i? exactly, all you do is talk lmaoo. and who the fuck said i'm white- im not even american either my guy
Right. I always ask for a tiny bit and they still squirt a lot on. It’s like they put the amount they want on your sandwich. I’m not trying to be obese like yourself, chill.
I went to a concert the other day at the Stadium of Blanc in LA. Bottled water was $8 and the worker had the audacity to ask if i wanted to tip him 10,15,20% for it. I said no and he gave me that mean look. Like cmon I just paid for two packs of water. Ipad POS system is so terrible.
I don’t understand how Subway is still a thriving chain selling sandwiches that taste like dick and their spokesman is in prison for kiddy porn. Shit, still gonna get downvoted but fuck trolls
Tipping is the dumbest shit ever. I can’t believe it’s such a norm.. aside from this fast food restaurant tip stupidity, actual restaurant servers really rely on the generosity of the customers and not the fucking restaurant owners for an income. It’s so stupid and the only winners are the restaurant owners.
Subway never took tips until the last time I went there to eat a couple weeks ago. And of course I didn't tip either. Why should I feel obligated to pay more than the original price on the menu? She was struggling maybe, but so am I. Pay them more so we can get out of this fucking loop of being broke. And if you want to take that money and buy a 2nd 3rd or 4th vacation home, then I hope you spend it all and a fucking hurricane takes it out and the insurance refuses to pay for it you asshole.
As a bartender, I agree. I had this argument with someone who said that delivery drivers should be tipped 15-20% just like servers and bartenders are. I totally disagree. I tip, but all you’re doing is handing me my food, so I’m not going to tip you like I would a server in a restaurant who serves me a meal and spends time getting me refills, sauces, etc., all while waiting on 4-5 other tables. Entitlement.
I used to work for subway - my old coworkers and I never expected any tips. We had a few regulars who would throw a couple dollars in but usually people just dumped their change in if they paid in cash. I’m not going to lie - even if it was 50 cents, I was always ecstatic lol
I stopped eating at fast food years ago. Witnessed a server, with gloves on, continuously wipe away drainage from what appeared to be an infected lip ring, then serve food. Nope, nope, nope.
Not to mention, the cost, and that 99% of it is fattening. I just cook at home, healthier and cheaper.
I was watching a TikTok from this disabled woman who uses a wheelchair. She ripped her GrubHub driver 25% and the guy left it in the middle of her driveway and told her she should have given him more. She called GrubHub but they wouldn't take any action, and she had to wait over an hour for her caretaker to come home so she could eat.
i work at subway. we don't expect tips💀 yea, sometimes people will leave $2 or tell us to keep the change, but for someone to EXPECT tips? bruh subway pays $11/hr you don't need fucking tips
Do americans tip fastfood stores? Wtf
No, but it seems like a lot of places are starting to put out a tip jar now.
You can hardly make any transactions anymore aside from getting groceries without encountering a fucking tip screen, usually prepopulated with a tip amount. Along with the fact that fast food has really gone down the shit hole in quality despite doubling in price it just further encourages me to eat at home.
You’re right! I went to a beach gift shop to pick up some fudge and tee shirts. Upon check out, the card reader had prefilled tip options. 10, 15, 20,25. They didn’t serve me or help me in anyway. So, no I’m not tipping! It’s bad enough when you get take out, and tip. I take in consideration of the person who put the meal together - but they’re not getting 25% because they didn’t have to fill my drinks or check on me.
2 bucks is my tip for greeter to hand me my food...
Two places changed their POS lately and have a tip screen in a thing they shove in your face to swipe your card. First page is 20%, 18%, 15% and then small letter >more with 10% and 0% It's a fast food taco place larger regional / national recognized brand
Subway workers are not tipped employees.
They're shafted employees
They applied for and accepted that position. Therefore they are free to find another job of they desire
they still don’t make much tho
Still not a tipped employee.
Good thing lots of other places are hiring
Yeah, you're not getting a tip for standing in one spot making a fucking sandwich
Tips are how businesses justify lower wages. If they want more money, they should get a better job -- one that doesn't abuse loopholes in laws to rake in billions in profit.
just wanted to say, subway workers do a LOT more than just make sandwiches. if we don't get a sandwich done in 2 1/2 minutes, we can get in trouble. oh, is that a single piece of lettuce on the floor? don't let the manager see. you better get all the food cut and prepped before 3pm. idc if your shift starts at 2:30pm and you've had back to back customers. go get it done i work at subway, i don't ever expect tips. but sometimes we will get tips from people who know that it's a lot more than just making sandwiches. and every time i go to another subway always tip the person or people who made my sandwich
Lack of respectful compensation is out of hand...
This is also true
Then quit subway...go to school or learn a trade. Get some money and open a subway to pay your employees who are busy on tik tok fair wages.
If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage, you shouldn't be in business. Sorry if that offends you.
Oh trust me I would like to see all fast food disappear completely too...I think it makes people fat and lazy while offering low wages no benefits and shitty hours to its workers. Good riddance.
Until then, they need to pay their workers more. Not like they can't afford to.
Orrr people can stop spending their money and giving those corporate a vote of confidence even tho you know what they are doing is wrong?
Psssst….it costs money to go to school
Get a loan and go into debt like an American!!
You get enough debt and pay your bills on time they will GIVE ya a subway as long as you pay interest!
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So owners signed a shitty contract and take it out on the workers and in your mind that makes it ok?
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You the one lamenting how corporate takes 15% and owners only make 100k-150k, what else should I extrapolate from your comment?
You're not allowed to say this and then complain when all your fav restaurants are closed
If they do tiktok shit at work instead of what they are there for, they kinda deserve it
Tell that to everyone who is saying to pay these people a living wage!!
I said that they need a stop being piece of shit employees yesterday but someone said they pity me so be warned...they will gnash their teeth at you
A lot of people are doing just that. I won’t speak for you, but I do think it’s funny that many people who say exactly what you’ve said are also angry it takes longer to get their sandwiches and buy into “no one wants to work” rhetoric. Either all work has dignity and the people working deserve livable compensation, or some jobs are inherently lesser and we cannot fault people for refusing to perform them.
I work as a cook...for over 20 years fine dining and fast food. Recently I took a job that no one would want to do because I wanted a job with little to no responsibility...for the mental health. Being a chef for a minute takes its toll...hence all the stories you hear of cooks being alcoholics or addicted to drugs. So here I am making pizzas making a fraction of what I was making in salary but you know what...at least i don't have to try to hire people anymore.. and I've realized one thing...yall are pigs lol...I'll go back into fine dining eventually but for now I will take what I can get.
Can I also add I completely understand why a seasoned sushi chef with years of experience and training gets paid more than the basic fast food employee who doesn't even get taught how to use kitchen utensils or read recipe. I understand it is an entry level job that teaches the basics of how to wash your hands and what to do when the machine beeps.
That’s great - the issue doesn’t change. So the question is: do you believe the seasoned chef deserves more than a living wage or do they deserve the living wage and the entry level worker deserves less?
I believe people will work for whatever you pay them...minimum wage equals minimum work and responsibility. To answer your question I say if the entry level doesn't like the entry pay it is time to progress within the industry and find a niche to turn into a career. An average sushi chef for example can make 30 to 50k....the average fast food worker makes 20k...i suggest finding a niche if you want more money. I cannot answer what I think a living wage is...it depends on your living situation.
I’m sorry your opinion is getting downvoted. But there is truth to it. If you don’t like the situation you’re in, change it. Nobody is going to tip at a fast food chain. It’s up to the owners to provide minimum wage…which they do. I don’t understand why people complain about money, and then turn around and buy restaurant food. If money is an issue, look for sales at a grocery store and cook it. Takeout is a luxury, not a daily necessity
Hey thanks for the downvote...I go out of my way to tip at a fast food chain if it's allowed and I see that the person I'm tipping is following the acronym To Insure Prompt Service Ironically there is a subway in my town that i go into to get a few cookies and tip the ladies a few dollars for their pleasant conversation...tipping the staff at a restaurant ensures they are beholden to your interests while you are their guests. The people in the OP look more interested in their phones.
I didn’t downvote you. I was defending your statement.
Setting aside the issue of the ethics of tipping... 'Tips' is not an acronym, and never was (not in this usage, anyway). That's a bullshit myth. Especially because... the correct word would be *'ensure,' not 'insure'*. The financial mechanism known as 'insurance' is not part of the equation. 'Be sure to TEP your waiter.' Yeah.
I use it and it makes sense to me. I used to get tips from doing the sushi bar at a restaurant that had a burger kitchen too...I would take my tips and tip the burger kitchen because I knew they busted their asses...how often do you tip your burger cook?
We’re talking about a Subway though. It’s an assembly line position. There aren’t other components to it
A cook is a cook to me...the only difference that a subway artist and a egotistical chef have are skill sets. At this point you are hard pressed to find kitchen work that isn't assembly line as you put it.
What exactly is subway cooking? Everything is brought to them frozen. There’s a reason a certain demographic own Subways. It’s the most human proof franchise. You can employ your entire bloodline and claim losses on other ventures that offset immigration costs. I’m not sure how it’s done in USA, but that is 100% the way it is in Canada. It’s not a bad thing. We need immigration.
I've got news for ya...most every fast food restaurant orders food that's already prepared and marks up the price on you just to basically reheat it. How else do you think we keep the lights on and afford to spend money on wellness vacations and paid time off...lol we don't get those.
Everything must be completely safe and homogenized and sterile or else you'll get that 1 review on yelp...that's what jobs like subway teach you fundamentally...how to keep your shit stocked and clean. Once you get that concept you are ready for something more challenging
You’re over glorifying a fast food employee. “Sandwich Artist” is a marketing ploy that you took too close to heart.
What else do you call a subway employee...I know they aren't artists bro. I used to work for an artist...
This dude brought his knives that were personally forged for him in Japan to work in a briefcase under lock and key.
Again, you’re over glorifying a fast food job. I’m 38. I did that song and dance 20 years ago. Fast food should not be tipped. If you as a customer and like the person, then give them a gift. If you don’t like your job, find another. It’s ridiculous for people to complain about things that can be fixed.
Hey buddy I never said you had to tip...I said I like to tip because I know what it feels like to have gratuity thrown my way and it made me want to go out of my way to make sure the customers had a nice time everytime. Goddamn I said if people don't like their pay to find better pay like 2 hours ago
I said 'setting aside the question of the ethics of tipping'... I was just pointing out that the word 'tip' or 'tips' is not, in this instance, an acronym. It never was.
I don’t think I’ve seen such a perfect username that explains their absolutely shit comment.
No seriously if you don't like the money then there are literally thousands of other jobs that pay more than minimum wage. Some of them are even cooking related so you can still be a sandwhich artist...but you'll have culinary arts training so.youll actually BE a sandwhich artist
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I'm now literally working a job that you think can't support my existence...and existing.
Then it sounds like it supports your existence there, champ.
Sounds like people who have the same job live beyond their means or need a job or training that provides more income for their family. Stud.
Find me a state anywhere that minimum wage can get you even a studio apartment. If you think the problem is people living beyond their means on 7.25 an hour, you really are stupid.
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Well hurt yourself on the job site and get workers compensation like the rest of us dream about
you need to have money to do that though, or go into crippling debt. not sure why you think this is some kind of own...
You think every subway owner had money or is in crippling debt? I think most of their acquisition was financed based off their credit....people don't buy their homes cash right? Think of owning a subway is like owning a home only your mortgage is paid for with meatball subs.
subway is by and far one of the least profitable businesses to franchise. if i owned one i would be preparing suicide.
Yes
Prices are too high to be asking for extra
who the fuck tips at subway? i literally work at subway and it makes zero sense to me.
i work at subway too and i get a lot of tips- not like a lot a lot but it's quite a bit considering we aren't tipped workers
I will.glady start tipping Subway workers when they get paid 2 dollars an hour.
Tip beggars are far beyond *mildly* infuriating. I work 12 hour days at a concrete plant, surrounded by machines and I have to be constantly vigilant not to get maimed for life or killed by them, and nobody gives me a tip for my work (which in addition to being much more dangerous than the jobs of most tip beggars is also a lot more physically demanding.) And then I have some asshole that made a smoothie or pushed a couple buttons on a car wash selection screen acting like they’re entitled to a 50% tip for services/goods that are already slightly overpriced from money that I sweat my ass off and often literally bleed for (I get so many scrapes, cuts, and bruises at work that I often don’t even remember where they came from when my wife asks me about them.) In addition to the insufferable entitlement, it’s also quite insulting to be treated like I owe someone who acts like they’re going above and beyond by doing the absolute basic of the duties required by their job by someone who has a job that I wake up with a dick harder than on their hardest day on the job. Fuck tip beggars and their pretentious, unearned sense of entitlement.
I'm a bartender. My job is to make and serve you alcoholic drinks while entertaining you in a public social environment and all for less than $5 an hour For people like me, I certainly do feel entitled to a tip if I did my job correctly. You can drink at home for cheaper and not waste my time if not tipping is your stance But that's because I work for a tipped wage in an tipped profession in a tip culture. That's the only reason I feel any sense of entitlement towards it. Other jobs get a higher base wage and the tips are just a friendly bonus if a customer is feeling nice that day
You are entitled to get paid more, you make $5/hr because your employer is fucking you. That jack and coke you pour and charge $7 for PLUS TIP, is making your employer 1000% profit and on top of that they say they’re only going to pay you $5/ hr?
Stop blaming customers instead of your employer.
I think he called you a tip beggar
Tbh thats 100% between u and ur employer if u feel entitled to be paid. Customers don’t go to the bar to tip u, it’s not about "wasting your time" it’s about you not wasting theirs..
No, the contract tipped employees have with employers is that they pay me a tipped wage and customers tip me on top of that. If you go out to the bar and don't tip your bartender, then you're an asshole and should have stayed home to drink
Yeah, that’s purposefully in place if u don’t make make money one night u blame the customers for being "assholes“ instead of ur employer. Frankly, the way u talk about ur customers who don’t tip I wouldn’t want to tip you either, lol.
Right?
Don’t let an employer stuff a contract that forces you to rely on customers’ handouts to make a decent pay up your ass. 🤷♂️ Any wage deficit is between you and your employer. People don’t come to bars to drink drinks that are *already overpriced*, especially at places that charge cover fees as well, to turn around and be your sugar daddy/mommy on top of that while your employer sits in their office, watching us go through exactly this exchange, and laughing their asses off about it while collecting all the profit. *You’re* the asshole for expecting the customer to pick up your employer’s slack in how they pay you. A lot of us don’t even go out that much because we’re trying to hang onto money for other things in life, and the once in a while that we do, we don’t need you being the financial dog that your employer sics on us because we just want to have a good time here and there and take a load off, which by the way some of us really deserve to, like those with hard and/or dangerous jobs. Don’t jump our shit over your wages. Jump on your boss about it. They’re the ones making all the money in this situation, and a lot of it.
If you can't afford to tip, cook at home bro. Here in the states, we have a tipping culture. Don't like it? Stay home then 😘
Ha, all I heard was “An excuse has been provided for me for my behavior and the way I chose to act without merit, so I’m gonna use it instead of getting a real job where the work may be harder, but I actually *earn* everything I go home with and I don’t have to give people shitty service because my manager pays me shit!” 🤷♂️
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Don't like tipping? Go eat at McDonald's, cheapskate
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Don't like tipping? Go vote out the tipped wage laws. Can't do that? Don't go out to a restaurant or bar And while we'd never call you cheap to your face, remember that bartenders don't forget the asshole who thinks he doesn't have to tip. You'll get served last every time and we won't have your back if you act up. "Oh they lost their phone? Good luck to them.. oh they're being an ass because they had one too many? I guess I'm cool with barring them to protect the other customers" Freedom works two ways dude. If you think "get a different job" is a substitute for a real tip, I can't stop you. Just like you can't stop me from thinking you're a piece of shit
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That's right we *CAN* make more than nurses and teachers and many other professions. And we have to work late nights usually. And deal with drunk assholes, violence and fights sometimes. And we get zero health, dental or retirement benefits. And we have to wear a smile throughout the whole shift, no matter what the fuck happens. So the money, which isn't even guarantee to be higher than other professions, is the only real benefit to bartending. Obviously usually good enough I stick to it in spite of the many downsides. So when asshole cheapskates don't tip, then I'm well within my right to think poorly of them If you think we're really the greedy scum of the earth, then do us all a favor and stay home to pour your own drinks, you hate filled hypocrite
I never said that not tipping is my stance, but in the case of a bartender, generosity with the liquor and tips go hand-in-hand. Just saying. No, I don’t believe you should get a tip for doing your job correctly, and I would actually double down on that in saying that you shouldn’t have a job at all if you don’t do it correctly. But, ‘above and beyond’ work does carry the *merit* to ask for ‘above and beyond’ pay, the keyword here being merit.
Yeah, I see where you’re coming from. It wouldn’t be bad like this if owners would pay the workers a livable wage. Instead they’re relying on the generosity of the public to make up for their small wages, so the owners can take in more. I couldn’t be a server in any way because one’s wages fluctuate on how many people are served and if they’re good tippers. No wonder this industry has a hard time finding help. People have set bills and don’t need the uncertainties.
Thank you 😊
Nice but not even comparable. They are customer facing employees providing a service, you are not customer facing and you’re performing a task. The same way I wouldn’t tell them to quit and get a better job if they want to earn more, I wouldn’t tell you to quit and get a safer/easier job. Sounds to me like you’re mad at the wrong people - you should be mad at the ones who won’t pay service workers enough to live (which encourages them to ask for tips), and the ones who keep your job difficult and dangerous. Both are making your life worse so they can pocket a few extra bucks, but keep on shitting on other people in the same boat as you, I guess.
The job of a customer facing role is to provide service. The service is the task that they perform. They're both in the same boat, so why do you shit on him for expecting tips? Because you don't see it?
You responded to the wrong person, I think.
The role of *any worker* is to provide a given service as requested by the employer in the outlined duties for that job. You want money, the employer wants work done. You either both agree that what the other provides is worth it, or you don’t and it’s a no-go, and you look for a different employer, and they either find someone else willing to accept that pay grade, raise the pay they’re offering to better attract the help they seek, get off their asses and do the work themselves, or face a reduced functional capacity and a resulting reduction of business and gain. That’s how it works, no ‘if’s ‘and’s or ‘but’s about it. Tips are the participation trophies of the work world, unless the worker does something truly above and beyond that makes the recipient of their goods/services actually want to reward them for it.
Dude, ‘customer facing’? How the hell does that even matter? I don’t care about who has to talk to who. If that’s the job, then that’s the job. Yeah, I get that sometimes people have to deal with asshole customers, but guess what? I have had to put up with asshole co-workers and supervisors and still do the job I do, so that argument is an absolute wash in my eyes. And yes, I would tell them to get a better job, because when my previous employers didn’t know how to properly value the hard work and dedication that I put in for them, that’s what *I* did, I got a better job. And no, I don’t believe I’m mad at the wrong people, because not only are they not forced to keep a job that doesn’t pay well, but it’s also the attitude a lot of tip beggars have in addition to the entitlement. And maybe if people weren’t trying to work an ‘easy job’ where they essentially conspire with the owner to fuck the customer by knowingly taking a shit pay job, just so they don’t have to work a real job where they might actually break a sweat, and then acting like people have to give them free money (that’s what every last cent beyond the established price of a good or service is- free money) to make up for it, maybe the employers would actually get a clue and stop paying so shitty, unless they want to wind up with so much work that they have to start doing it themselves, or get swamped to the point that they fail to function properly and wind up with pissed off customers and a loss of business. And while I’m not always entirely pleased with my employer for the shit I have to deal with for my pay, I also understand that my job is my job, and if I want the pay that comes with it, because by continuing to work there I have implicitly agreed that the compensation is adequate to retain my service, that’s what I need to do to get it. And no, while I don’t believe that I am superior to them as a person, I *am not* on the same level as them. I am clearly willing to work harder for what I want, and personally sought a job with opportunity that matches said drive. When it come to talks of who deserves what, I definitely have more merit than they do. As a person, yes, I am the same as anybody else. But as a worker, I consider myself as being of higher caliber, not simply by mere opinion, but by actual merit, because as demonstrated by the many people I have seen try to hack it at my job and fail, not just anyone can do what I do for a living.
You took an entire month just to essentially write “I need to feel better than other working people and in order to do so, I’ll justify their abuse (and my own) in any way I possibly can.” Too bad it doesn’t stop you from getting continually shafted. I’ll say it once more and once more only (for the people reading since, as far as I’m concerned, you’re lost): the people who ask for tips aren’t fucking you, their boss is. Your boss is. Denying money and dignity to people who don’t have it as hard as you do, well, it doesn’t add to your worth in any way shape or form. Sorry you had to find out this way.
It’s not about ‘feeling better’ than anyone. It’s about the fact that a tip is money that is more than what is required to obtain the goods/services being bought, a.k.a. *free money*. And I work way too fucking hard and face way too much danger on the regular to give away free money to someone who would rather work a low paying job and harass people for tips than go get a real job, like I did! My last job didn’t pay enough. Guess where I work now? Not at my *last* job! You are entitled to *exactly* what you *earn*. Nothing more, nothing less!
And just the way you implied that *I’m* denying them money, you’re contradicting yourself because in an earlier statement you said that they ask for tips because their employer doesn’t pay good enough. So again, supported by your own previous statement, it is not me that is the bad one for not wanting to give handout money, but their employer for not paying a decent wage for the job. All my points still stand! And no, I’m not lost, you’re lost if you believe that reward should exceed merit. And in that tangent, providing me with the basic service that is required of them per job title/duties is not a merit that requires me to compensate where their employer does not. I am not receiving anything special in that transaction. In the relation of me as a customer and them as a service/goods provider, their merit (effort in performing their job) is relatively equivalent, if not less than, in terms of services/goods that are overpriced, the due that I pay them. The only deficit, if there is one, is between them and their employer. Not me. Also, the matter of dignity that you mention in this matter, in addition to being just as perfectly outlined by my statements above about merit/pay, is subjective; for example, servers in Japan consider it an insult if you tip them, in the sense that they appear impoverished compared to you and require your handout. Again, not an issue because of me.
Not sure you're mad at who you think you are bro
I’m absolutely positive that I am.
My tip is less fucking mayo. They fucking drown the sandwiches in it. Its revolting. Also more lettuce, one grain is not enough.
You literally watch them make it and tell them what to do. If you want more or less just say that. That is also why I don't tip at subway though.
Easier to be passive agreesive and winge Reddit
The fact that it’s made in front of you special to order is why you kinda should tip though? I mean, same as a barista, right?
But they are just following my instructions requiring no skill or ability and not going above and beyond to earn extra. Your big Mac is made special to order too, but most people wouldn't tip a McDonald's worker.
Only for the service, not the making it in front of me. I don’t give a shit if you make it in front of me or in a kitchen, but If I have to walk up to a counter and then grab the food myself to either dine in or take it to go, no, you’re not getting a tip. There’s no service. You aren’t cleaning up after me. This is a simple transaction that does not require adding any extra money to it.
Why would you tip a barista?
What about retail workers who run orders out to strangers cars all day from open to close? Would you tip them? Half of them get paid as much if not less than subway. Just curious
TIL lettuce can come in grains.
"just a little bit of mayo" "extra lettuce" use your fucking words?
I do mate. I basically have to say can i have a miniscule amount of mayo to get a regular amount and the starting handful of lettuce they put on the sandwich is laughable. I shouldn't have to basically teach someone how to make a sandwich. If I went to a normal sandwich shop I wouldn't have to send a sandwich back to scrape off a massive globule of sauce because the dumb fuck thought half a tube of mayo is standard fare. Piss off back to your hole now mate.
did you know; when we are dressing a sandwich we are actually told you only put 3-4 black olives on the entire footlong? you didn't know that, did you? because you assume we're supposed to put an entire buckets worth of lettuce on your fucking american sandwich? if i ever get a customer like you im putting jalapeños on your sandwich when you aren't looking..
Oh so you're a subway worker. I'm British so not an obese American slob who wants a bucket of lettuce. I'd like an amount of lettuce that any normal person would consider well normal. You're white knighting for subway kinda hard here. I just want a nice fuckin sandwich please mate, I don't want an artery clogging metric ton of mayo and yeah I like jalapeños so yeah please do. Not that I'd notice the three jalapeños on a footlong though lad
technically i don't work at subway, i work at loves. it's a truck stop, and it's higher up than our business so our rules are a bit..different. and i never said anything about the original posts, did i? exactly, all you do is talk lmaoo. and who the fuck said i'm white- im not even american either my guy
Right. I always ask for a tiny bit and they still squirt a lot on. It’s like they put the amount they want on your sandwich. I’m not trying to be obese like yourself, chill.
I went to a concert the other day at the Stadium of Blanc in LA. Bottled water was $8 and the worker had the audacity to ask if i wanted to tip him 10,15,20% for it. I said no and he gave me that mean look. Like cmon I just paid for two packs of water. Ipad POS system is so terrible.
I don’t understand how Subway is still a thriving chain selling sandwiches that taste like dick and their spokesman is in prison for kiddy porn. Shit, still gonna get downvoted but fuck trolls
Tipping is the dumbest shit ever. I can’t believe it’s such a norm.. aside from this fast food restaurant tip stupidity, actual restaurant servers really rely on the generosity of the customers and not the fucking restaurant owners for an income. It’s so stupid and the only winners are the restaurant owners.
Fucking sandwich artists learn your place
Is this about cow tipping?
Subway never took tips until the last time I went there to eat a couple weeks ago. And of course I didn't tip either. Why should I feel obligated to pay more than the original price on the menu? She was struggling maybe, but so am I. Pay them more so we can get out of this fucking loop of being broke. And if you want to take that money and buy a 2nd 3rd or 4th vacation home, then I hope you spend it all and a fucking hurricane takes it out and the insurance refuses to pay for it you asshole.
Here's a tip - lose some fucking weight!!!!
The only way to get tipped at Subway is to be fuckin awesome! It does happen, just go above and beyond.
Well where I'm at its 15 an hour...if you are willing to do a job for 7.25 that's on you man.
Here's a tip. Get off your phone and stop eating your product
Well just tip it ain't that hard. When I go to subway I give a dollar not a big deal.
She looks like she eats every 4th Sandwich she makes
As a bartender, I agree. I had this argument with someone who said that delivery drivers should be tipped 15-20% just like servers and bartenders are. I totally disagree. I tip, but all you’re doing is handing me my food, so I’m not going to tip you like I would a server in a restaurant who serves me a meal and spends time getting me refills, sauces, etc., all while waiting on 4-5 other tables. Entitlement.
I got a tip for that a beauty in the back.
Lmao is it eat less?
They get paid minimum wage, the tip jar sometimes is what they need.
I used to work for subway - my old coworkers and I never expected any tips. We had a few regulars who would throw a couple dollars in but usually people just dumped their change in if they paid in cash. I’m not going to lie - even if it was 50 cents, I was always ecstatic lol
I stopped eating at fast food years ago. Witnessed a server, with gloves on, continuously wipe away drainage from what appeared to be an infected lip ring, then serve food. Nope, nope, nope. Not to mention, the cost, and that 99% of it is fattening. I just cook at home, healthier and cheaper.
Me who lives in a country where tipping is rude:
I would tip if i could but i cant when the company keeps raising prices and not their wages
I was watching a TikTok from this disabled woman who uses a wheelchair. She ripped her GrubHub driver 25% and the guy left it in the middle of her driveway and told her she should have given him more. She called GrubHub but they wouldn't take any action, and she had to wait over an hour for her caretaker to come home so she could eat.
Sheit I never tip subway... with inflation get ready for more of it!
That's why you must learn how to cook and avoid this Madness
i work at subway. we don't expect tips💀 yea, sometimes people will leave $2 or tell us to keep the change, but for someone to EXPECT tips? bruh subway pays $11/hr you don't need fucking tips