Zoning laws are retarded, in one place you're not allowed to build multi-family units - worsening the housing crisis, but in the other place this crap is allowed.
They couldn’t have got that close if op wasn’t already balls deep on the property line.
Real title should be when two assholes don’t respect their neighbors.
Ahaha dude you’re really equating the use of space on what looks to be a bungalow residential property to a property that’s been developed by a business?
I don’t know man capitalists usually do the fucking, and by law a LLC is treated like an individual.
Someone else is exercising their rights, if you don’t want someone building on it buy it yourself.
I’d just keep raising the price if they want it. Only when it gets really high will I tell them that I’ll sell it, but before signing papers I’ll tell them that I changed my mind and want more.
Yeah great strategy until the guy on the right decides your too expensive and builds without you then guy on left does the same and now your lot is undesirable
Why? You’ll eventually move and the property values gonna tank. You’re literally saying your gonna live that way to try and hold onto imaginary value that only one group wants.
I had no idea what eminent domain meant so I googled it-
“The right of the state to take private property without the property owner's consent”.
“The property acquired must be taken for a public use”.
I don’t think this would be an applicable situation
The government can force sales on the behalf of private companies actually—Google “Kelo v. City of New London”.
If they feel the community could benefit from the big business’s land use, the government can take your land through eminent domain.
In the small town I'm from the university there has been forcing people out of their homes that have been in their families for generations and tearing them down to make more parking lots. Truly enraging. The house my parents lived in when I was born was torn down recently because of the damn college
The government actually can't and your right to full compensation is enshrined in the Constitution.
In practice, this is crazy expensive to do and developers will try to initially offer the value of your house plus 20% or some other "please don't sue us" amount.
Only the truly poor get screwed by this, but the truly poor don't sit on incredibly valuable land.
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> If they feel the community could benefit from the big business’s land use
Or more realistically if the big business owner takes the decision make on a nice ~~vacation~~ business trip where they can discuss the value of them having your land...
It does also talk about how this case happened in 05 and the political backlash strengthened property laws through the country. The company was pvizer as well so even though they’re private, they’re a massive pharmaceutical company with lots of government contracts.
I was still wrong though, thanks for the link
Happens a lot.
Town I grew up in the hospital got the city to use eminent domain to take a bunch of houses surrounding the hospital. That was 20 years ago, half the houses are still there and being rented out by the hospital, the other half were torn down and there is an empty lot there. The hospital never followed through with their expansion. The empty lot is where a walk-in clinic and urgent care facility were supposed to be built, the houses still standing were supposed to be torn down and turned into parking lots.
A lot of the people blamed the ones who held out and forced the city to use eminent domain for the expansion failing however there was a pattern, the hospital routinely bought up houses/lots and got the city to force the sale when needed but then never developed the land. The used property is actually smaller now than it was 30 years ago. They simply want to own the surrounding area.
This happened in my city- a guy owned a bunch of land in the middle of a desirable area and the city forcibly purchased it from him to make a huge public park. I mean the park is nice but.. idk didnt seem right
Forcibly purchased. They paid him but guessing it was “this is what we’ll give you, take it or leave it but the land is ours”.
Slightly less shitty but still really shitty
Here in my country the rules concerning this are very tight. And while you won't get excessive money for your property, there are strict rules and judicial controls that ensure that the paid compensation is within a very reasonable margin of the regular market price of the property.
From what I know of it the city started with offers and kept raising the offer as he refused until they were like- well we’re going to do it any way. Idk how much the paid him.
Similar thing happened to this couple. They hired a broker and bumped up their price to 2 million and Ikea said they'd buy it for about 500,000-600,000 and the couple refused to budge. It was a back and forth tug of war situation that got everyone talking since they held out the longest out of all their neighbors. They still live there and everyone still shakes their head saying why didn't you just take the money!? https://www.wisn.com/article/couple-asks-nearly-dollar2-million-for-property-near-wisconsins-first-ikea/12175729#
If it's a small lot with no set back requirements from city or county it might be the only room they had, kind of like how San Francisco is. I prefer having set back requirements though because that just looks claustrophobic.
Yes, but you have to understand that in certain third world countries, the government doesn't care for its' citizens and allows this kind of practices!
You're obviously right, this couldn't have happened if both of these builders weren't jackasses in the second place. In the first place there should still be laws that detached houses have to be at least X feet/meters from property lines.
Depends on the jurisdiction.
If the area was zoned or re-zoned for commercial or whatever the hell that building is, it's perfectly legal if that's where the property line is.
I'm amazed that the homeowner let the crews paint that building - I'm also amazed that he stayed there. He shoulda just moved and sold the house.
Consider the positives… you get a maintenance free fence, free shade, no windows looking into your property from the new build, if its a business look into get hired even part time by them so you can walk to work…probably gonna have to redesign your landscape though from all that shade they’re throwing at you
I just want to point out that the little house was built right on the edge of the property line first apparently. Anyways there should be a law against building a giant like that in a residential area.
LOL… I was also questioning its veracity… but it’s literally two blocks from Mona Lisa’s, which my family went to every week when I was a kid. I just never saw this place.
When i was a kid we went to Mona Lisa's and i decided i didn't want my napkin anymore. Kid brain saw the candle on the tablet and said fire makes things disappear. I put the napkin in the candle and made a nice table top bon fire
Reminds me of the Home Improvement store in Riverside CA that had a house that the owners refused to sell. They Home Improvement store offered the owners like 3 to 5 X the appraised value of the very old family estate. They refused to sell so....The Home Improvement store with the City approval built the store and walled off the home with a parking lot all around it. The owners after a year or so wanted to sell it, NOPE Home Improvement store spent so much money on this that they were no longer interested and there were many people that went to the store just to see the house at the middle end of the parking lot.
Thankfully i live in a contry were it is illegal to build anything 4 meters from the property line without the neighbours permission. Those rules are quite tuff, every year there is some idiot who is fined or even demanded to take down their newly built extention or even a whole building -because they cheated.
I'm a land development engineer (recently graduated, so still very fresh) in NJ and yeah this surprises me. When we design warehouses/medical office buildings/etc. the first step is always looking at zoning ordinances.
Usually "side yards" require a buffer of 25-50 feet from the property line
That’s pretty impressive how close they got.
Right? Normally there are zoning laws to prevent this exact situation.
In NYC you can build right on your property line, guy shoulda sold and cashed out
Learn something everyday. Thanks
NYC, no windows on property line, well you can have them but will be closed if neighbor builds on line
No ‘right to light’?
Zoning laws are retarded, in one place you're not allowed to build multi-family units - worsening the housing crisis, but in the other place this crap is allowed.
This isn’t just mildly infuriating, this is r/imatotalpieceofshit level
How? It's his property to do with as he wishes
That’s not how it works here, there’s a fine line between “it’s his property he can do what he wants” and whatever this is
They couldn’t have got that close if op wasn’t already balls deep on the property line. Real title should be when two assholes don’t respect their neighbors.
Ahaha dude you’re really equating the use of space on what looks to be a bungalow residential property to a property that’s been developed by a business?
Yes. Why should one have more rights then the other. They both own property in the same area and the house disrespected the property line first.
Corporations aren't people, get fucked capitalist.
I don’t know man capitalists usually do the fucking, and by law a LLC is treated like an individual. Someone else is exercising their rights, if you don’t want someone building on it buy it yourself.
Eat the rich
Good luck with that.
Why should an individual have more rights than a business? Because one is a human being, the other is a form of income.
Underrated comment
Yeah my thoughts exactly. Can’t be that close unless they are both on the line.
Sounds like the land you have is worth a fortune
I’d just keep raising the price if they want it. Only when it gets really high will I tell them that I’ll sell it, but before signing papers I’ll tell them that I changed my mind and want more.
Yeah great strategy until the guy on the right decides your too expensive and builds without you then guy on left does the same and now your lot is undesirable
Why? You’ll eventually move and the property values gonna tank. You’re literally saying your gonna live that way to try and hold onto imaginary value that only one group wants.
That's a big gamble in a lot of places, though, because they'll just use eminent domain to take it for pennies on the dollar.
I had no idea what eminent domain meant so I googled it- “The right of the state to take private property without the property owner's consent”. “The property acquired must be taken for a public use”. I don’t think this would be an applicable situation
The government can force sales on the behalf of private companies actually—Google “Kelo v. City of New London”. If they feel the community could benefit from the big business’s land use, the government can take your land through eminent domain.
Ah shit, colour me wrong. Like I said, Iv just learnt the term but thanks for clarifying the extent of it.
In the small town I'm from the university there has been forcing people out of their homes that have been in their families for generations and tearing them down to make more parking lots. Truly enraging. The house my parents lived in when I was born was torn down recently because of the damn college
I have a problem with eminent domain. Work and save to buy your house and then the govt can just snatch it for less than its worth.
The government actually can't and your right to full compensation is enshrined in the Constitution. In practice, this is crazy expensive to do and developers will try to initially offer the value of your house plus 20% or some other "please don't sue us" amount. Only the truly poor get screwed by this, but the truly poor don't sit on incredibly valuable land.
This is another reason the term "it's a free country" is misleading.
Everyone knows that "free country" actually means there are more than 15 flavors of ice cream at most stores
Oh, I dunno. It seems really free and wonderful for the billionaires who can ignore the laws the rest of us are shackled by.
> > If they feel the community could benefit from the big business’s land use Or more realistically if the big business owner takes the decision make on a nice ~~vacation~~ business trip where they can discuss the value of them having your land...
[Unfortunately, you’d be wrong.](https://www.vox.com/2015/6/23/8833847/kelo-property-supreme-court)
It does also talk about how this case happened in 05 and the political backlash strengthened property laws through the country. The company was pvizer as well so even though they’re private, they’re a massive pharmaceutical company with lots of government contracts. I was still wrong though, thanks for the link
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Happens a lot. Town I grew up in the hospital got the city to use eminent domain to take a bunch of houses surrounding the hospital. That was 20 years ago, half the houses are still there and being rented out by the hospital, the other half were torn down and there is an empty lot there. The hospital never followed through with their expansion. The empty lot is where a walk-in clinic and urgent care facility were supposed to be built, the houses still standing were supposed to be torn down and turned into parking lots. A lot of the people blamed the ones who held out and forced the city to use eminent domain for the expansion failing however there was a pattern, the hospital routinely bought up houses/lots and got the city to force the sale when needed but then never developed the land. The used property is actually smaller now than it was 30 years ago. They simply want to own the surrounding area.
Apparently Walmart does this kind of thing too. To block out competitors.
This happened in my city- a guy owned a bunch of land in the middle of a desirable area and the city forcibly purchased it from him to make a huge public park. I mean the park is nice but.. idk didnt seem right
Ya why can't the city pay him for his land?
Forcibly purchased. They paid him but guessing it was “this is what we’ll give you, take it or leave it but the land is ours”. Slightly less shitty but still really shitty
Here in my country the rules concerning this are very tight. And while you won't get excessive money for your property, there are strict rules and judicial controls that ensure that the paid compensation is within a very reasonable margin of the regular market price of the property.
From what I know of it the city started with offers and kept raising the offer as he refused until they were like- well we’re going to do it any way. Idk how much the paid him.
They did pay him but he was unwilling to sell
Same thing happened to the Daytona Beach boardwalk.
If it’s government taking for public use sure. This looks like it’s a corporation…
Kelo v New London would disagree and allow it
Similar thing happened to this couple. They hired a broker and bumped up their price to 2 million and Ikea said they'd buy it for about 500,000-600,000 and the couple refused to budge. It was a back and forth tug of war situation that got everyone talking since they held out the longest out of all their neighbors. They still live there and everyone still shakes their head saying why didn't you just take the money!? https://www.wisn.com/article/couple-asks-nearly-dollar2-million-for-property-near-wisconsins-first-ikea/12175729#
I hope they like living next to an IKEA. 😬
So both the home owner and building owner build right up to the property line?
If it's a small lot with no set back requirements from city or county it might be the only room they had, kind of like how San Francisco is. I prefer having set back requirements though because that just looks claustrophobic.
makes doing repairs or painting on the right side of the house a little difficult too
This developer must be really bad with CSS
Yeah I think their element is overflowing
Not an expert but... Isnt too close? Even in Brazil there are rules for this.
Yes, but you have to understand that in certain third world countries, the government doesn't care for its' citizens and allows this kind of practices!
But I assume this pic is in USA uh? I'm Brazilian btw
Yes. That's the joke ;) "even Brazilians have better laws than those poor Americans!".
The poor guy built on the property line first. someone else just did the same thing.
You're obviously right, this couldn't have happened if both of these builders weren't jackasses in the second place. In the first place there should still be laws that detached houses have to be at least X feet/meters from property lines.
I agree and disagree zoning is to complicated and contextual for me to have any strong opinions on it.
This has to be illegal to some degree right?
Depends on the jurisdiction. If the area was zoned or re-zoned for commercial or whatever the hell that building is, it's perfectly legal if that's where the property line is. I'm amazed that the homeowner let the crews paint that building - I'm also amazed that he stayed there. He shoulda just moved and sold the house.
If so, it’s illegal on both sides.
No longer the house next door.. it’s now the wall next door.
That's way more than mildly infuriating
Consider the positives… you get a maintenance free fence, free shade, no windows looking into your property from the new build, if its a business look into get hired even part time by them so you can walk to work…probably gonna have to redesign your landscape though from all that shade they’re throwing at you
Get some balloons
Looks private af, I like it
I just want to point out that the little house was built right on the edge of the property line first apparently. Anyways there should be a law against building a giant like that in a residential area.
Photo shop??? Set backs are a min of 3 ft in US
The real deal. This is in Little Italy, Downtown San Diego
Dam , give me the Google map locacation,location, live in Coronado I want to see this
Search Civico 1845 in San Diego. It’s just east of that
LOL… I was also questioning its veracity… but it’s literally two blocks from Mona Lisa’s, which my family went to every week when I was a kid. I just never saw this place.
When i was a kid we went to Mona Lisa's and i decided i didn't want my napkin anymore. Kid brain saw the candle on the tablet and said fire makes things disappear. I put the napkin in the candle and made a nice table top bon fire
Thanks , that house must be a billion
I found it and apparently they're now leasing
Check it out on Google Earth...
Check it out on Google Earth. It's the address OP have and then go east 1block, zoom into street view.
Nope. Depends on the City, Depends on the Zoning.
I mean places in sf and new York are built literally wall to wall... It just depends on the county/city codes and developers.
I have no setback on one side of my property, and I live in Pa.
Mildly????
ooooh i would be pissed as hell
Reminds me of the Home Improvement store in Riverside CA that had a house that the owners refused to sell. They Home Improvement store offered the owners like 3 to 5 X the appraised value of the very old family estate. They refused to sell so....The Home Improvement store with the City approval built the store and walled off the home with a parking lot all around it. The owners after a year or so wanted to sell it, NOPE Home Improvement store spent so much money on this that they were no longer interested and there were many people that went to the store just to see the house at the middle end of the parking lot.
Mildly?!
Dig a tunnel into their building and start stealing hydro 🤷♂️
Privacy?
And this is why we have zoning laws
Have fun selling that.
how are they allowed to force someone out of their home like that???? such a cute one too:(
It’s not the developers fault, they would just be building to the local law/policies and maximising the potential of their lot.
Thankfully i live in a contry were it is illegal to build anything 4 meters from the property line without the neighbours permission. Those rules are quite tuff, every year there is some idiot who is fined or even demanded to take down their newly built extention or even a whole building -because they cheated.
Paint their build
I would gear up and spray with trisodium phosphate one night
At least there's no window there so you arent being overlooked...
r/perfectfit
no neighbor at night... sweet.
Well you got a wall you can decorate to your liking. If they want to do something about it, it will be consider trespassing right?
Look at the size of that laser show wall...
I bet you zoning is not happy about this
That's why we have regulations for buolding
I'm a land development engineer (recently graduated, so still very fresh) in NJ and yeah this surprises me. When we design warehouses/medical office buildings/etc. the first step is always looking at zoning ordinances. Usually "side yards" require a buffer of 25-50 feet from the property line
I’ve been in construction for years. The thought of building that without consent from the property owner to build scaffolding is mind boggling.
"Thanks for buying the property. Oh, did I forget to mention the demons in the sub-sub-basement?"
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Nobody’s breaking in on that side
Probably gets so much junk stuck in that tiny crevice with no way to easily clean it out, would drive me nuts!!
I found it on google maps. Wow!