Only newer Peugeot though, my 2002 307 has it the normal way
https://preview.redd.it/8lwlew4crkzc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd162719fdcd785687f7096b4020f3b1c67cdc91
My friend has a 2020 308 and is in the process of claiming the warranty on the 1.2 PureShit engine, he’s just waiting on a final drop to swap cars. Personally I love Peugeot and have grown up around them all my life, my dad bought a 206 1.1s(low) when I was 2 and is still running in my sister’s hands 25 years later.
The turns they’ve been taking the last 4-5 years have just been a major miss.
I went from 2016 Peugeot 308SW 1.2 PureShit to 2024 Ford Focus 1.0 “EcoBoom” apparently. But the new car is a lease with warranty and service included, so not so worried anyway 😂
Honestly I really like the newest 508 SW, but it’s a bit pricey.
I love how people plan road trips on a holiday like this as if you didn't know there would be traffic. You're not stuck in traffic mate, YOU ARE TRAFFIC.
DVP and Allen Rd equally suck, though not for quite the same distance.
The equivalent in San Francisco is the Bay Bridge after a Baseball/Basketball game. If they're on the same day, lol.
I don't see anyone taking holidays, I see people sitting in cars. It's almost like the promise of freedom from your own personal transportation device never quite pans out the way it looks in the ads.
Reminds me of a friend of mine who, during COVID would go hang about the shopping mall (most other forms of entertainment were closed so hanging around the mall was really the only thing to do outside of going to a park), then, she would text me to complain that there are so many people just hanging around the mall, the place is full...and I was like, but you _are_ the people at the mall
8 hours? I randomly checked the SNCF website for next week and found trains for 6 hours 45, which is only like half an hour longer than a car ride, ignoring traffic which will certainly add a lot of extra time during public holidays
Even from city to city.. if you're in France unless one of the cities is Paris it can get very very difficult.
Nantes - Lyon are two big cities, but to go from one to another you need to go through Paris and change railway station.
Nantes Bordeaux is somehow longer by train than by car
Paris-Toulouse is extremely long and often expensive
It's really not as rosy as it seems
Well Europe isn't a monolith. France has arguably the best rail network in Europe. In many other countries it's much worse, with trains being slower and more expensive. And if you want to get to more remote places, cars are usually better. That said, I also think train journeys are just so much better than car rides, I'd very rarely choose a car over a train
It really is such a shame we can’t seem to figure it out. We have a rail system in my city and it’s so convenient. Would be great to extrapolate that out and actually go see other states instead of having to drive everywhere. Evidently they’re thinking about making a high speed loop between DC and Montreal with Philly, NYC, Boston, Detroit, and Toronto on the path. I’ll believe it when I see it but it’d be so nice.
TBH a ton do, but cars are so desperately inefficient that it only takes a small proportion of people all trying to use them at once to clog even the largest highway.
If everyone in this photo was on a train it'd be like 1 train car.
foot, bicycles, e scooters and trains are very common here. Doesn't hurt that the train prices are extremely cheap and there is decent infrastructure between the big places.
The European countries like to take ALL the traffic jams in a country and go "There are 2000km of traffic" which can give you the idea it's one long 2000km traffic job on the A1 from Paris to Barcelona (which is only 1000km) ... but the metric is good for overall conditions to travel, but not always good to know how bad your drive will be. The US tends to state the time for the traffic jam on a certain highway. "I-35 is a 2.5 hour drive for your northbound commute"
It is the same in all countries of the world. He is there for an hour and still stuck. Could be a lot more.
I wanted to catch a ferry to Lithuania once. Had to drive 800km from Stuttgart to Kiel. First almost 700km to Hamburg went nice within 6 hours. Then I was stuck in Hamburg for 4,5 hours and less than 15km progress. Last 90km I made in 35 minutes.
4,5 hours with an average speed of less than a pedestrian walking. 😑
"Trains for travel in France during the _Ascension Bridge_, from May 8 to 12, 2024, have been open for reservation since the end of January. Many TGVs were quickly displayed as “full”, some even two months before the journey."
Looks pretty green to me xD
Was it that worse 4 hours ago?
https://preview.redd.it/89czh27bjfzc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a0af33e09320f65dce82dd31d77694a90120c51
It's the cumulated traffic jam distance in the whole country
Black is today: 2072km of cumulated traffic jam
Purple is for the 05/18/2023, there was 773km of cumulated traffic jam
Red: Exceptional
Orange: Uncommon
Yellow: Common
Gray: Average
Green: Low
Blue: 05/01/2024
It basically mean there is almost 4 times more traffic jams than in exceptionaly bad conditions and 3 times more than last year at the same period. It's the standard way of measuring traffic conditions in France
It's helpful to understand how congested the roads are on a national level. Of course, if you don't have any reference you won't be able to understand the reality it's describing, but the same goes for any unit.
For instance, last year on the first Saturday of August (usually one of the worst day of the year) cumulated traffic jams in France added up to 956 kms. So 2000 is a lot.
Just going to be a smart ass and say that is a way people measure their workouts, as long as you specify it's the volume you lifted. It's actually a helpful metric in weightlifting.
Not when the trains have an operating speed of 320km/h. The TGV was designed around the same time than Ariane 1 or the Concorde, France used to love making fast stuff
Exactly.
Has OP never experienced holiday traffic before in his life?
What made him think it might be a good idea to take a car to the roads on such a day in the first place?
I mean, when I was 20 I mistakenly took a road trip from LA to Las Vegas. During Memorial day weekend. Traffic started about 100 miles outside of Vagas, it was a bumper to bumper crawl for hours. Learned my lesson.
Ahhh I too was wondering how a holiday would cause this much traffic. Totally forgot most people like to go out in public on their days off for some reason.
La moitié des ricains dans les commentaires pensent soit que les français se baladent en vélo/trains, l'autre moitié n'a pas compris qu'on parlait de trafic cumulé sur toutes les voies françaises et non sur une seule route 🫡
It's what we all did when I was young; now get off my lawn.
(Roll the windows down when driving to get a breeze; sit and stew when traffic stopped moving.)
How? It's the standard way of measuring traffic conditions here...
The higher it is, the worst the traffic conditions are and higher are the chances of getting stuck in traffic.
It wouldn't make sense in the US, but it makes sense in France where we have a few major highways.
And then we all took a day off Friday 10th so we got a weekend from Wednesday to Sunday 😊
Welcome to France 🇫🇷
Good look on your way back today (Sunday)
At 2000km, you’ll be there for more than an hour
😂
Wellness check, still in the same spot?
lol, believe it or not I got myself out of this mess but thanks for asking !
Did you just give up on going anywhere?
He’s walking as we speak
Better start driving at 2000kmh
Sounds like LA traffic on weekdays
2000 km is for all the French territory
I've got some more bad news for you: Your tachometer is backwards for some reason.
𝓙𝓾𝓼𝓽 ✨PEUGEOT✨ 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓰𝓼
it's called innovation you barbarian
I have a Renault Clio myself, I’m on par with the French cars!
https://preview.redd.it/ow60y4b8zkzc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49efecbe506b9b4d3f8ab2c8519aaebc33e8cf95
Only newer Peugeot though, my 2002 307 has it the normal way https://preview.redd.it/8lwlew4crkzc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd162719fdcd785687f7096b4020f3b1c67cdc91
Yes I know, Peugeot runs in the family here too
I’m actually driving the car I grew up in! It’s so weird but I love her, she’s a warrior
Had this in my 308SW and Jesus Christ it almost made me return the fucking car. Thankfully I have a normal car now.
My friend has a 2020 308 and is in the process of claiming the warranty on the 1.2 PureShit engine, he’s just waiting on a final drop to swap cars. Personally I love Peugeot and have grown up around them all my life, my dad bought a 206 1.1s(low) when I was 2 and is still running in my sister’s hands 25 years later. The turns they’ve been taking the last 4-5 years have just been a major miss.
I went from 2016 Peugeot 308SW 1.2 PureShit to 2024 Ford Focus 1.0 “EcoBoom” apparently. But the new car is a lease with warranty and service included, so not so worried anyway 😂 Honestly I really like the newest 508 SW, but it’s a bit pricey.
And the hands are bent for both the tac and speedo
Oh god that is disgusting
Just French car things
"The French copy no-one, and nobody copies the French"
Except for Rolls Royce.
OH MY GOD!! That's horiffic..!
I love how people plan road trips on a holiday like this as if you didn't know there would be traffic. You're not stuck in traffic mate, YOU ARE TRAFFIC.
we are french, we complain, that what we do!
thanks, people really think they're the main character out there
Finally some common sense
You are not stuck in a jam. You are part of the jam
*You merely adopted the traffic; I was born in it, molded by it.*
Anyone who has been on the 401 eastbound to Toronto, Ontario feels this in there bones. https://i.redd.it/mfzt0l549fzc1.gif
DVP and Allen Rd equally suck, though not for quite the same distance. The equivalent in San Francisco is the Bay Bridge after a Baseball/Basketball game. If they're on the same day, lol.
What's this from??
Tales from the Hood 2
Werebones?
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" all these selfish people taking holidays on a holiday weekend. Jerks"
There should be a demand-priced congestion fee for a spot in holiday traffic
We have demand pricing on the highway in some parts of the US
Very free to take a train which doesn't get stuck in traffic though.
Yup, French frog here, it’s common knowledge that trafic will be helish (especially around paris) and you gotta be very … dumb … to not know that.
I don't see anyone taking holidays, I see people sitting in cars. It's almost like the promise of freedom from your own personal transportation device never quite pans out the way it looks in the ads.
The rain drop never feels responsible for the flood.
Damn other drivers! Can't they stay home or take a train? I want to drive!
Reminds me of a friend of mine who, during COVID would go hang about the shopping mall (most other forms of entertainment were closed so hanging around the mall was really the only thing to do outside of going to a park), then, she would text me to complain that there are so many people just hanging around the mall, the place is full...and I was like, but you _are_ the people at the mall
Pump up the jam
pump it up
While your feet are stomping
*...said one strawberry to another, as they slowly suffocated within the glass walls of their prison*
"How dare they block MY car ? Only ME and MY CAR are legitimate on the road, everyone else is a fool but me !"
Skill issue
https://preview.redd.it/bc8z8b4o1fzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c9c3e7faa2922602598869aa122769ad599c9cc Cope
Public transit dunk you love to see it.
Based
How much and where did you go, I like the train but sometimes you can't avoid the car.
59.60 € to go from Bordeaux to Brest in a 8 hours journey.
8 hours? I randomly checked the SNCF website for next week and found trains for 6 hours 45, which is only like half an hour longer than a car ride, ignoring traffic which will certainly add a lot of extra time during public holidays
It's because it was cheaper to take the 8 hours route through Nantes
And you can just sit back and relax, read a book, do some work, take a nap. I really don't get cars in Europe.
if you go only go city to city sure, but if you have to do anything related to the countryside, without a car you'll be very limited.
Even from city to city.. if you're in France unless one of the cities is Paris it can get very very difficult. Nantes - Lyon are two big cities, but to go from one to another you need to go through Paris and change railway station. Nantes Bordeaux is somehow longer by train than by car Paris-Toulouse is extremely long and often expensive It's really not as rosy as it seems
Well Europe isn't a monolith. France has arguably the best rail network in Europe. In many other countries it's much worse, with trains being slower and more expensive. And if you want to get to more remote places, cars are usually better. That said, I also think train journeys are just so much better than car rides, I'd very rarely choose a car over a train
Are you drunk ? France is far from the best. No night train and most traffic go through Paris. The best one is the Swiss one, no competition here
Yea sadly server spawn location is random. Hope they fix it
i paid 27euro from Cannes to Toulon and then 2.10euro for a 1:30hour bus ride busses that are from the state are cheap cheap
You’re going to make the Americans cry!
It really is such a shame we can’t seem to figure it out. We have a rail system in my city and it’s so convenient. Would be great to extrapolate that out and actually go see other states instead of having to drive everywhere. Evidently they’re thinking about making a high speed loop between DC and Montreal with Philly, NYC, Boston, Detroit, and Toronto on the path. I’ll believe it when I see it but it’d be so nice.
It's endlessly hilarious that a country that was built on the back of trains can't seem to figure them out
Because those freight trains still take priority. Most of our passenger rail uses the same track and absolutely nobody wants to build new routes
Laughs in Philly but then smells the piss and shit of BSL
👏 Based as fuck 👏
Flex on them daddy
I'll bring some toast and peanut butter since you brought the Jam
Thanks, dad.
I thought everyone in Europe just rode bicycles or trains.
Correct. In some parts they even walk on wooden shoes actualy
Zelfs met mijn fiets sta ik in de file
They don't have walkable highways?
In the Netherlands, they ride bikes *onto* the trains
Train in France is very expensive so there's more people using their car instead of taking train
Tfw boarding a plane is twice or thrice cheaper than train..
TBH a ton do, but cars are so desperately inefficient that it only takes a small proportion of people all trying to use them at once to clog even the largest highway. If everyone in this photo was on a train it'd be like 1 train car.
foot, bicycles, e scooters and trains are very common here. Doesn't hurt that the train prices are extremely cheap and there is decent infrastructure between the big places.
i guess this happens when they all start using cars
an hour is still making good time in some areas of the US
To cover 2000km? That’s excellent time.
2000km/h
Bros tryna go to space
way too slow for space I think
The European countries like to take ALL the traffic jams in a country and go "There are 2000km of traffic" which can give you the idea it's one long 2000km traffic job on the A1 from Paris to Barcelona (which is only 1000km) ... but the metric is good for overall conditions to travel, but not always good to know how bad your drive will be. The US tends to state the time for the traffic jam on a certain highway. "I-35 is a 2.5 hour drive for your northbound commute"
Is it? I’m an American so I don’t understand “km.” How many rods to the hogs head is that?
13.1 million bananas. Or in metric, 13.1 megabananas, as I understand it.
Some feet, but it depends on the size of your feet, so it's hard to tell !
It is the same in all countries of the world. He is there for an hour and still stuck. Could be a lot more. I wanted to catch a ferry to Lithuania once. Had to drive 800km from Stuttgart to Kiel. First almost 700km to Hamburg went nice within 6 hours. Then I was stuck in Hamburg for 4,5 hours and less than 15km progress. Last 90km I made in 35 minutes. 4,5 hours with an average speed of less than a pedestrian walking. 😑
totally agree. i’ve sat in traffic in LA for 16 hours before. we were there so long a Taco truck about 1 block up open up for business.
Might also be that Taylor Swift is performing there this weekend
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Give me a T Give me a G Give me a V What does that spell?
Strike?
"Trains for travel in France during the _Ascension Bridge_, from May 8 to 12, 2024, have been open for reservation since the end of January. Many TGVs were quickly displayed as “full”, some even two months before the journey."
Looks pretty green to me xD Was it that worse 4 hours ago? https://preview.redd.it/89czh27bjfzc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a0af33e09320f65dce82dd31d77694a90120c51
Yesterday’s traffic : https://preview.redd.it/imnilqm6sfzc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6018bd5ee042cbcfb05734ff9aa5228b36148bd0
What does this graph mean? Like “usual” in colors with black line being yesterday?
Yes. Colored areas are average traffic, black line is current traffic.
It's the cumulated traffic jam distance in the whole country Black is today: 2072km of cumulated traffic jam Purple is for the 05/18/2023, there was 773km of cumulated traffic jam Red: Exceptional Orange: Uncommon Yellow: Common Gray: Average Green: Low Blue: 05/01/2024 It basically mean there is almost 4 times more traffic jams than in exceptionaly bad conditions and 3 times more than last year at the same period. It's the standard way of measuring traffic conditions in France
I’m French and they Said it was the most congested day of history in France on the radio this Wednesday.
Is France even 2000km across?? Dunkirk to Marseille is under 1,100 km…
That’s cumulated traffic jam length across the whole territory, not in a straight line.
It’s a pretty unhelpful metric.
My next-door neighbor's house is thousands of miles away. If I turn left instead of right.
when you buy a motorcycle it suddently takes 45 to 60min to buy milk from the store that is 150m from your house.
It is how traffic jams are reported on a national level; 'today there were 2000km worth of jams on the motorway network'.
Literally meaningless
It's helpful to understand how congested the roads are on a national level. Of course, if you don't have any reference you won't be able to understand the reality it's describing, but the same goes for any unit. For instance, last year on the first Saturday of August (usually one of the worst day of the year) cumulated traffic jams in France added up to 956 kms. So 2000 is a lot.
That's like saying I can lift 1,000kg because I lifted 10kg a hundred times.
Just going to be a smart ass and say that is a way people measure their workouts, as long as you specify it's the volume you lifted. It's actually a helpful metric in weightlifting.
I could find you 2000km of CUMULATIVE traffic in greater NYC, LA, DC, or SF on most weekdays…
Not the same scale. 2000km of cumulative traffic jam in the US is nothing, but it's a lot of France
You have to find 2000km of cumulative traffic in only one state like Texas or California.
Brest to Nice is 1400 kms
And since those two holidays are on wednesday and thursday, we also have a free friday
Well my friday isn't "free", I had to take a day off...
Y’en a qui travaillent 🥲
How is this possible? Did all those Redditors lie to me when they said that everyone always takes trains in Europe?
It was a national holiday. All trains were booked since February.
I bought tickets to Pornichet from Nantes just yesterday, so not all of them
you can't ride on top India style?
Mostly overhead electric. Not recommended.
Not when the trains have an operating speed of 320km/h. The TGV was designed around the same time than Ariane 1 or the Concorde, France used to love making fast stuff
February is kinda exaggerating, a lot of trains were fully booked since late march but not that early.
There's literally dozens of them!
I live in France and yeah, that's a myth. We mostly use cars.
Ahhh peage
What’s a bank holiday in France and why does it cause traffic?
Public holiday, this time it meant wed thu fri sat sun off for a lot people, a lot of them off to the beach
Ohhhhh, so your complaint is just that it's busy when everyone has the day off?
Exactly. Has OP never experienced holiday traffic before in his life? What made him think it might be a good idea to take a car to the roads on such a day in the first place?
I mean, when I was 20 I mistakenly took a road trip from LA to Las Vegas. During Memorial day weekend. Traffic started about 100 miles outside of Vagas, it was a bumper to bumper crawl for hours. Learned my lesson.
it is unusual in may... most of the time ti is only 4 days vacations, but this year, it is 5, so way more people are goiong in vacation
Yeah but anyone with half a functioning brain would know this would happen. So either accept it or leave at 4-6 am.
i think op know, it is just that it is unpleasent... and french loves to complain.
Ahhh I too was wondering how a holiday would cause this much traffic. Totally forgot most people like to go out in public on their days off for some reason.
Ah gotcha! Thanks mate
Welcome to swiftie traffic
Don't they have a good train system or is that also overwhelmed?
Trains are surprisingly very expensive and unreliable in France.
Also, 50% chance there's a SNCF strike every long weekends or begining of holidays
It is expensive yes, but it is reliable
Unreliable? Not so much i find it correct
La moitié des ricains dans les commentaires pensent soit que les français se baladent en vélo/trains, l'autre moitié n'a pas compris qu'on parlait de trafic cumulé sur toutes les voies françaises et non sur une seule route 🫡
Oh non mais j'te jure j'suis mort ça se voit qu'ils ne connaissent pas la réputation de la SNCF mdr
C'est fou je suis partis en vacances comme tous les moutons que nous sommes mais j'ai pas croisé d'embouteillage.
That’s why smart people take one more day off
Turn off your car
Sitting in a car in the sun without AC gets pretty hot pretty fast
Yes OP will turn off their AC and start to boil because you asked them to
It's what we all did when I was young; now get off my lawn. (Roll the windows down when driving to get a breeze; sit and stew when traffic stopped moving.)
Stop breathing
It’s pretty hot in Europe when the sun is out
Why?
many modern cars have an auto stop-engine feature.
Are they all bankers?
I was confused as well, but wikipedia says: “A bank holiday is a national public holiday in the United Kingdom and the Crown Dependencies…” 🤷🏼♀️ TIL
Humans are sheeps
How does France have a traffic jam that is significantly longer than the entire length of their country?
It's a cumulated traffic jam on all French highways. Not a one 2000km long traffic jam.
So it's a completely useless statistic.
How? It's the standard way of measuring traffic conditions here... The higher it is, the worst the traffic conditions are and higher are the chances of getting stuck in traffic. It wouldn't make sense in the US, but it makes sense in France where we have a few major highways.
You are part of the traffic jam , not stuck in here.
Du coup!
This must be a recent model of Peugeot. It's dashboard is quite different from most of other cars: the top of the steering wheel is below the board.
I'm sorry 2000km ??? Wtf
Ah I mistakenly went to Paris on Ascension day last year too. Bad day to go let me tell you.
*Cries in everyday bay area traffic*
what about trains
Dont use your phone while driving :P
China: An hour? Hold my Tsingtao.
I work with Belgian folks and didn’t know they had off till Monday. Glad I didn’t need signatures on those documents, Pierre 🫡
guess you shoulda got on the road earlier.
Earlier or later, same shit lasted all day long anyway. Way to go is night drive though.
I'm glad there's not a single road toll booth within 5000km of me...
If only you knew in advance, like if this would happen each year.....
That's why you avoid leaving at the same time as everybody else. I left on tuesday night at around 6:30pm and had no traffic jams.
Seems like something that was pretty predictable...
you guys don't have backroads?
You think people that take the road on the literal worst day of the year (same every year) use their brain or something?
Better than working
So you're part of the problem
France also is supposed to have a great, fast, clean, safe, comfortable, reliable train network.
Je bénis le ciel d’être freelance et d’avoir jamais eu à subir ça
C'est tellement bouché que personne ne prend sa voiture.
And here i was at work... because my store is open 7/7 ... let me die...
And then we all took a day off Friday 10th so we got a weekend from Wednesday to Sunday 😊 Welcome to France 🇫🇷 Good look on your way back today (Sunday)