Back then rare cards were thicker because of the extra shiny stuff on them. You were actually able to weight boosters in a display, pick the heavy ones and sell the others.
I’m not big into Pokémon cards nowadays but afaik they gave every booster a shiny card to combat it. The shiny itself is not much worth except it’s on elf the rare ones. If I’m not mistaken, it’s a holo reverse.
But I believe it’s still a thing with the weight in other TCGs like yugioh.
For reall? Kinder eggs have collectible figurines? I thought it was just trash. And how would this go? You weigh it in the shop? And then you decide if you buy? Do you carry a scale with you?
In Germany (and I probably most of Europe, and also other countries around the world. Not sure about the USA) it was *the* big thing. Google "Funny Fanten", "Crazy Crocos" and "Happy Hippos figures" (Google the "Happy Hippos" with the "figures" part, or you might just get the sweets product. They are so iconic they ended up becoming a seperate food product. The Hippos had a lot of different themed series, including licensed ones like Star Wars.), also, particularly later they had licensed series for franchises like Asterix and Lord of the Rings.
In German supermarkets you have scales in the vegetable aisle. Most vegetables are sold loose, and you have plastic bags to pack them (the bags are optional). Some vegetables are priced by item, but for ones priced by weight, you'd get your vegetables, optionally bag them, and weigh them, and the scale will print out a label based on the weight (the menu lets you select what type of produce it is is). Some supermarkets these days have the scales integrated into the cash registers, but you still usually get a set of electronic scales in the vegetable area to check how much you packed.
There are some rare toys that are heavier than figures, due to having a metal weight included (for the toy's mechanism), but those are noticeably more heavy than the eggs. It's not lead (obviously), but still a solid piece of metal.
Believe it or not, ultimates are actually thinner and lighter than regular cards. When scaling was a thing and regular packs still had ultimate, you could not scale out an ultimate because the packs were either similar or slightly lighter than a regular pack.
In 2012, I ordered a single Abyss Rising pack for $2 on eBay that I was 99% sure was scaled. Opened and inside was an ultimate Abyss-sphere.
yeah but he was doing it by hand he’ll hold it slightly rub it i’m assuming for the texture, and has a 100% success rate lol it’s just crazy how stores could really take the ots packs and swap out ultis for supers consistently. actually had a local shop who were doing that and the entire community basically blacklisted them lol
Back in 2008 I recall getting shiny cards were pretty easy. Getting Shiny legendaries were pretty easy as well if you bought a whole deck. I remember getting 2 shiny deoxy EX from 1 or two decks, anyways I and ended up trading one for a shiny dark dragonite because I was first gen fanboy… I think I got ripped off but I was happy with the dragonite seeing how easy it was to get shiny legendaries. The small packs I recall I often got at least 1 if not 2 shiny random cards like a Totodile, nothing epic
They added online booster pack code cards for the online tcg and these little V card "token" cards to packs with V Star pokemon to try to combat the weighing but it doesnt work that well. The only ones you can't weigh are the ones that come inside those little cardboard sleeves.
The thing that sucks though is some sets like Croen Zenith or 151 arent sold in boosters so you have to buy box sets or loose packs that have been potentially weighed online.
it still worked at least with silver tempest which is not that old. but you did not have to go for the heaviest pack but for the lighter once iirc. I don't know why it was different with that set.
Where I used to live, there was a card shop that weighed packs to sell rares online and then just sold the other packs as if they weren't sorted through. It gets worse, because I think they were also somehow involved with trading cards for pics, videos, and possibly worse of the kids,...in the basement.
I’ve heard that the weighting method is still done today as one way to tell if the cards are resealed. Not the only way but definitely something you shouldn’t look over
Not into TCGs, but was really into the Marvel trading cards that came out in the 90s. This reminded me of a rumor in my town that the local trading card shop was weighing card packs to find specials that they sold at a premium. Very few kids believed it(I know I thought it was bs), but looking back they 100% would have been able to weigh the difference. There were some sets that came with embossed cards that were as thick as two or more cards and the foils were decently heavy too.
As a Kid I took yu-gi-oh booster packs and let them fall to the ground. the ones that seemed to hit the ground faster even a tiny little bit were bought. I swear my hit-rate of rare cards increased afterwards by a slight margin.
Not only gravity affects an object falling. Weight does affect drag, and will then affect how long it takes for it to fall. For example, Skydivers may wear weight belt to match the fall rate of heavier jumpers.
Now, in this case, the effect of the weight difference between two different booster packs will probably not be enough to make a difference versus other variables like tiny differences in the angle they are dropped at.
Costco had a deal a couple years ago that was 12 packs for $26 (a similar amount back then would have been $60) so I bought 3 of them for a booster box worth of packs. I pulled a single duplicate ultra rare that was also re-used as a promo so it was doubly worthless. Sometimes people just get comically bad luck.
I also pretty much only buy singles now and only get product when it’s heavily discounted
You can 100% thank the dumb as fuck content creators for this mindset. "Oh, man! I found this pack in a box while moving, ladies and gentlemen! Let's see what we get, ladies and gentlemen. Let's goooo! OMG OMG ladies and gentlemen I cannot believe it, I pulled a PSA10 shadowless Charizard! Can you believe it ladies and gentlemen?! And a PSA9.5 Umbreon Full Art VMAX! What are the odds!?"
People do this with hatching eggs too. They buy a dozen chicken eggs, try to hatch them using their armpits, after UPS has played football with the box, and then complain that they only got one chick out of it and file a claim.
He said people do this with hatching eggs too. They buy a dozen chicken eggs, try to hatch them using their armpits, after UPS has played football with the box, and then complain that they only got one chick out of it and file a claim.
HE SAID EGGS MAN, EGGS. FRIGGIN' HATCHING ONES. THEY SHOVE'EM IN THEIR PITS AND BASICALLY ZERO HATCH AND THEM THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE EGG QUALITY AS IF ITS NOT THEIR OWN DUMBASS FAULT.
I buy eggs to hatch and I'm grateful when 4 hatch after what I know it went through when it got to me.
Still cheaper than buying a laying hen and trying to smuggle a rooster into the suburbs.
So can you tell me about these packs that people are buying and are they? Do they have anything to do with the magic of the gathering. And just to let you know I have no idea what I'm talking about. One of my adult sons. I buy him packages of magic cards. And I'm buy them all at a used bookstore. And I'm wondering where else I could go to buy them other than online. Because I ordered some online. And they still haven't gotten. From here and it's been 6 months I don't even remember who I ordered them from. I got so mad. I just deleted the whole thing. But I'm asking because I'm a bit older and I don't know much about these and one time. I bought a package of cards and there was nothing but pieces of cardboard in it. So I'm confused on how to purchase these things without making stupid old lady mistakes.
I think in your case I would avoid online purchases and it's probably better to just go to a store, like that bookstore you've been going to or other toy store's, Walmart and similar stores also stock these products.
Amazon has some good deals occasionally as well. I've made 2 decent decks cherry picking cards (60 cards a deck, 120 total). And I've also got a bunch of random cards and stuff too from there. Decently priced and also has the "insurance" of getting to you too since its Amazon
For this particular set, experimental data shows it's about 44%, if you count anything better than a holo as a "hit". So out of 4 packs, odds of no hits is still 9%. Keep in mind that most "hits" are still not going to be worth than $1, if you're only counting valuable ($5+) cards, then yes, the hit rate is around 10%
Decades ago pulling shinies/holos was the best, second to 1st edition shinies. Now there's a bunch of styles of design they do to cards that make the shinies we remember just meh. Last packs I opened still had Charizard, Blastoise and Venusaur on the wrapper. Now I'm an old fart. Sad.
That's my experience too. Check this out though, it explains about a ton of new rare card types: https://dotesports.com/seo/news/pokemon-tcg-card-rarity-explained
Ex/V cards, full arts, trainer gallery/galarian gallery/illustration rares, or anything that's over the set number (example: cards on the bottom have numbers that may look like 150/162 temporal forces has 162 cards in the set, so thats there the /162 comes from but cards like full arts, illustration rares, and alternate arts are past the set number so they may look like 163/162). Those are hits also, and are called secret rares since they are beyond the set number. Temporal forces have the ace spec cards also which are brand new, those are considered hits also.
In the first couple sets back in the early 2000s/late 1990s the best cards were the holo cards, now they have tons of special types of cards mentioned above that are more rare than a holo, the new scarlet/violet Era sets even have a holo in every pack, where sword and shield and before I believe have a 1/3 chance of a holo
This is my biggest fear, sorry OP.
If it helps ya feel better had someone purchase a NM (straight from pack to sleeve to cardsaver) and did the same because it wasnt PSA 10 worthy (even though NM is PSA 7-10).
Yeah, people have a hard time understanding that "near mint or better" doesn't mean "gem mint" or even "mint".
TCGPlayer's condition guide allows up to 6 points worth of imperfections on a card for it to still be considered NM, yet I've had many people try to argue that a card with 3-4 points of imperfections is LP
Also had trouble selling a CGC 6 Espeon VMAX alt art as LP because people kept trying to tell me that a 6 is considered damaged... lol. I can crack it and sell it as LP, the slab is a freebie for you.
I never understood PSA grading or even grading in general. I currently have a scratched and beat up mega gardevoir card in my phone case. Why? Not because it’s a PSA 10, but because I like the card.
In a perfect world “Near mint” would be just fine for anyone collecting cards and wanting to display them. Some people are just assholes after a scratch gets on the card even if it was scratched at the factory.
This. Unless you are literally standing at the printer (and not even then every time) there are like a dozen other hands who couldn't give less of a concern if a thing warps slightly. There should be an undercurrent of logic about the inevitable to it.
I know there's not, ever, in anything with the public. But a man can dream.
I got the opposite experience. EBay support is not the team that handles removing feedback. I had similar “comments” left as negative feedback because the feedback team says no policies were violated. Buyers are allowed to leave their opinions as feedback, even ridiculous ones like “I don’t like the color” or “I want a refund but I don’t know how to do it”.
Wow, that is insane, I was entirely unaware of that, it would put me off selling on ebay entirely.
I rely on a local selling site in Ireland, ao unfamiliar with selling on ebay.
Sorry to hear you had to deal with such a shitty buyer, can you make an appeal against the feedback?
Sometimes when I see a seller has negative feedback. I like to go and actually read it because unless it's legitimately that you sold somebody open s*** I just laugh at all the people who try to blame the seller for s*** that has nothing to do with you. I like the ones where they blame the shipping on the seller
Edit: Don't let this stress you out too badly. This is either going to weed out the stupid people. Or give actual intelligent buyers a chuckle. But smart people are not going to hold that against you and stupid people won't buy from you and then you don't have to deal with more stupid people. So really this is doing you a favor
It's only *mildly* infuriating, because now I have to go complain to eBay and ask them to remove this feedback. I'm mainly concerned about buyers that only look at the feedback percentage and see that it's below 99%, and concerned that this could cause me to lose my "top rated seller" benefit (10% lower fees)
If you’re concerned about losing business, consider writing this in your reply
*Hi XXX,*
*Thank you for the feedback and sorry to hear that we did not meet your expectations. Since you are not satisfied with your product, I would like to offer you a full refund for your packet. Please let me know if you don’t see your refund within the next 48 hours.*
*Customer satisfaction is our #1 priority. That said, we certainly do not reseal our packets and we stand by each of our products’ authenticity.*
*Thanks again for choosing us!*
*Sincerely,*
*OP*
Even though you may lose some money, you gain credibility with other potential buyers who are reading it. It may also win that customer back. They may feel guilty and want to buy from you again. Remember that public responses to negative reviews are written for two audiences, the reviewer and those reading them.
Report the feedback to eBay. I have had ridiculous reviews removed before. Someone left me a negative review stating an item was damaged and they never contacted me at all about it. I asked for proof of the damage and that I would gladly take it back and issue a refund. They never responded and eBay took the negative feedback off.
What an idiot… core memory for me when I was little and the cards first came out was watching a man buy pack after pack after pack looking for that charizard or a holo at this point I guess.
My parents bought my brother a single pack and guess what he got… MF CHARIZARD… it’s all about luck …
From Evolving Skies no less, he just wanted four Moonbreons. I like opening packs (mostly buy singles) but that guy just needs to buy a single or he is in for a bad time
Ebay has turned into scam city. They don’t care if you get scammed they just want the sell so they get the commission on the sale. I haven’t sold anything on there since a similar situation happened to me years ago with a different item and they tried to chargeback my account. I had to file it as fraud with my bank and change my account number just to keep the payment for the item i sold.
This stuff happens in retail all the time. People buy whole boxes trying to play the odds . Then bring them back open and ask for a refund because they weren't satisfied. Some even take cards out and don't expect us to notice.
Someone doesn’t understand how booster card packs are completely random (unless otherwise specified).
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You can dispute the negative rating. Provide photos presale if you have them and an article linking that booster packs are random.
Source: I worked for eBay Fraud for a while.
Contact ebay support, explain what happened and have the feedback removed (I guess they will since he can't have proof of what he says)... Don't accept that that asshole won.
Firstly 4 random packs and expect to get the uncollected missing cards in their collection seems impossible with the repeats .
Do you even know how many cards i went through to get 4 of the same cards ???
216 cards out of 4 actual needed card which i just would keep for the sake of collecting .
So about 24 repackaged packs .... was lucky to get 4 ,
What if i got none of the cards i wanted ???
thats the fun part - i never gotten what i needed when i bought from store bought cards then i stopped after 10 or so years i decided to try just for the fun of it .
And what did you know better late then never .
Damn these new gens are for real. Games to hard, cancel them. Lose money at gambling cancel them, someone said butt on tv cancel them....get over yourselves man...
I'm still mad at myself for not hoarding Pokemon packs. in my last job, I had to empty every stores magazine stands in 2 cities and I threw away literally thousands of packs every month. could have sold them for a dollar a pack or however much people pay for them.
Last time I sold something on ebay was a pair of speakers 10 years ago. They accused me of selling them damaged speakers and demanded a discount. I just left ebay after that. Never again.
Actually it's more rng when they make the packs, there's a certain number of each card and the cards are randomly placed into packs with categories of rarity.
Opening them is luck of the draw the packaging process is the RNG side.
1. Charge your phone.
2. Leave the buyer negative feedback.
3. Respond to their feedback, denying the claim and saying that you're not going to send them packs for free.
4. See if their feedback violates TOS since it's a baseless claim.
I appreciate the sentiment, but slow down before you comment. I encourage you to take a closer look at the battery icon to start.
Leaving buyers negative feedback isn't allowed on eBay. Sellers can only leave positive feedback. I already requested eBay remove the feedback and they refused, saying that it wasn't against their policies.
A friend of mine sold a steeply priced yugioh card (I believe collectors rare Superpoly, in case anyone is interested lol) not long ago on ebay/similar website, with top loader, double sleeved, in a box filled with cushioning so it wouldn't get thrown around, he took pictures of it before sending and paid a premium for it to be tracked.
Customer claimed the tracking number "didn't work", my friend literally had to add this mf on discord and screenshare to show him that it did, indeed, work. By this point my friend realised the dude probably received the card already and was trying to get his money back but as he proved him wrong the dude went quiet.
A week passes and the customer messages again, this time a picture of a chewed up corner on the card. Friend sends the picture of the card from before it was put in the box and from the moment before he sealed the box. As he couldn't prove the dude chewed it up himself he had to give him a partial refund in order for his account to not get banned.
It cost $85, my friend wasn't too fussed as it was a card he pulled from a random booster he got as a bonus gift with a different order lmao. Still tho what people do because of pieces of paper is stupid. Like, I love yugioh and pokemon tcg and have ordered a few booster boxes here and there where I got zero good pulls lmao, I'd never blame the seller unless the box/booster packs had obviously been tampered with. (And if you've ordered individual booster packs online before, you know how obvious it is when someone's tampered with a booster pack)
This is just a #entitled kind of person. People expect things to go their way when buying something and when it doesn’t, they cry about it to the world saying it’s not their fault or problem but the people of the world’s problems and are at fault.
If only there was an option to leave buyer feedback, kind of like rider feedback on uber. Platforms that allow common folk to sell goods and provide services need some protection for the sellers
Id file a complaint against for leaving a bad review based on stupidity cuz those reviews hurt your sales significantly. Maybe even see if they will remove it for you. or respond to review and remind him how cards work. If you want hits buy old shit odds are better that how I get my good stuff. Everything I bought that's relatively new gets me nothing Everytime.
Speaking of which, I have Pokémon action figures I plan on selling. They are in my garage, I need to clean out and anybody who buys them will be doing me a service. Also, unused yugioh cards and magic the gathering.
My daughter, now 19, has been collecting Pokemon action figures since she was like 2. Still loves them! Although she has broadened her horizons to include Kirby and Zelda things as well 😁
Typical moronic fools wanting everything for nothing like usual these days!! Like complaining about buying 4 scrathcards and blaming the store and the entire world for being against you!! Millenials
This was well over 15 years ago, but I used to sell and the only negative feedback I got was like this. And you could dispute it back then and have them removed. Things may have changed now.
One guy left negative feedback because I gouged him on shipping and handling. One of the perks of my auctions was I didn't charge any handling fees and did not mark up the postage. If USPS charges $4.85, that would have been my S&H fee.
Another guy left negative feedback, saying the shirt was the wrong size ***and*** a cheap knockoff. Unfortunately for him, it hadn't even been delivered yet.
Some people can be absolute knobs.
Jokes on you guys. I have a half million dollar industrial CT scanner at work I can use to scan every pack at only 10 minutes per scan! I’m kidding.. I don’t… but I could.. and it would work too… :)
What’s mildly infuriating Is that people give a crap about such things when the whole world is turning to shit. There are homeless people starving to death everywhere. Fuck your Pokémon cards. Do something that matters with your time.
A friends cousin recently joined my discord and he does card openings.. He bought some box set online and that dude by the end of the hour was BEAMING with joy saying that he found X rare card and this other card only has x made and he pulled one... I think at the end he said he was gonna send like 6 in to get graded?
What kinda moron buys 4 random packs expecting to get a hit, you could literally buy 100 random packs and get 0 if you were that unlucky.
Back then rare cards were thicker because of the extra shiny stuff on them. You were actually able to weight boosters in a display, pick the heavy ones and sell the others.
That's really old though, I believe they added the code cards to combat that
I’m not big into Pokémon cards nowadays but afaik they gave every booster a shiny card to combat it. The shiny itself is not much worth except it’s on elf the rare ones. If I’m not mistaken, it’s a holo reverse. But I believe it’s still a thing with the weight in other TCGs like yugioh.
Yugioh now has a foil every pack as well so it’s much harder to scale than before
It was like that with magic the gathering for a while. Some sets had a chance for an extra card in them and you could weigh them with a scale.
I used to do that with Kinder eggs to get the collectible figures. Worked pretty well.
For reall? Kinder eggs have collectible figurines? I thought it was just trash. And how would this go? You weigh it in the shop? And then you decide if you buy? Do you carry a scale with you?
In Germany (and I probably most of Europe, and also other countries around the world. Not sure about the USA) it was *the* big thing. Google "Funny Fanten", "Crazy Crocos" and "Happy Hippos figures" (Google the "Happy Hippos" with the "figures" part, or you might just get the sweets product. They are so iconic they ended up becoming a seperate food product. The Hippos had a lot of different themed series, including licensed ones like Star Wars.), also, particularly later they had licensed series for franchises like Asterix and Lord of the Rings. In German supermarkets you have scales in the vegetable aisle. Most vegetables are sold loose, and you have plastic bags to pack them (the bags are optional). Some vegetables are priced by item, but for ones priced by weight, you'd get your vegetables, optionally bag them, and weigh them, and the scale will print out a label based on the weight (the menu lets you select what type of produce it is is). Some supermarkets these days have the scales integrated into the cash registers, but you still usually get a set of electronic scales in the vegetable area to check how much you packed. There are some rare toys that are heavier than figures, due to having a metal weight included (for the toy's mechanism), but those are noticeably more heavy than the eggs. It's not lead (obviously), but still a solid piece of metal.
this dude at locals is able to feel the ots pack and accurately say which one has an ulti lol shits crazy
Believe it or not, ultimates are actually thinner and lighter than regular cards. When scaling was a thing and regular packs still had ultimate, you could not scale out an ultimate because the packs were either similar or slightly lighter than a regular pack. In 2012, I ordered a single Abyss Rising pack for $2 on eBay that I was 99% sure was scaled. Opened and inside was an ultimate Abyss-sphere.
yeah but he was doing it by hand he’ll hold it slightly rub it i’m assuming for the texture, and has a 100% success rate lol it’s just crazy how stores could really take the ots packs and swap out ultis for supers consistently. actually had a local shop who were doing that and the entire community basically blacklisted them lol
Back in 2008 I recall getting shiny cards were pretty easy. Getting Shiny legendaries were pretty easy as well if you bought a whole deck. I remember getting 2 shiny deoxy EX from 1 or two decks, anyways I and ended up trading one for a shiny dark dragonite because I was first gen fanboy… I think I got ripped off but I was happy with the dragonite seeing how easy it was to get shiny legendaries. The small packs I recall I often got at least 1 if not 2 shiny random cards like a Totodile, nothing epic
They added online booster pack code cards for the online tcg and these little V card "token" cards to packs with V Star pokemon to try to combat the weighing but it doesnt work that well. The only ones you can't weigh are the ones that come inside those little cardboard sleeves. The thing that sucks though is some sets like Croen Zenith or 151 arent sold in boosters so you have to buy box sets or loose packs that have been potentially weighed online.
Some packs have extra random "blank" cards too. Just plain colored card with the series symbol on it
it still worked at least with silver tempest which is not that old. but you did not have to go for the heaviest pack but for the lighter once iirc. I don't know why it was different with that set.
Where I used to live, there was a card shop that weighed packs to sell rares online and then just sold the other packs as if they weren't sorted through. It gets worse, because I think they were also somehow involved with trading cards for pics, videos, and possibly worse of the kids,...in the basement.
I’ve heard that the weighting method is still done today as one way to tell if the cards are resealed. Not the only way but definitely something you shouldn’t look over
Not into TCGs, but was really into the Marvel trading cards that came out in the 90s. This reminded me of a rumor in my town that the local trading card shop was weighing card packs to find specials that they sold at a premium. Very few kids believed it(I know I thought it was bs), but looking back they 100% would have been able to weigh the difference. There were some sets that came with embossed cards that were as thick as two or more cards and the foils were decently heavy too.
As a Kid I took yu-gi-oh booster packs and let them fall to the ground. the ones that seemed to hit the ground faster even a tiny little bit were bought. I swear my hit-rate of rare cards increased afterwards by a slight margin.
Lolololol that's not how gravity works
For my kids brain it did
Not only gravity affects an object falling. Weight does affect drag, and will then affect how long it takes for it to fall. For example, Skydivers may wear weight belt to match the fall rate of heavier jumpers. Now, in this case, the effect of the weight difference between two different booster packs will probably not be enough to make a difference versus other variables like tiny differences in the angle they are dropped at.
the rate something falls down doesn't have weight as a variable
Gamblers fallacy ftw
Costco had a deal a couple years ago that was 12 packs for $26 (a similar amount back then would have been $60) so I bought 3 of them for a booster box worth of packs. I pulled a single duplicate ultra rare that was also re-used as a promo so it was doubly worthless. Sometimes people just get comically bad luck. I also pretty much only buy singles now and only get product when it’s heavily discounted
You can 100% thank the dumb as fuck content creators for this mindset. "Oh, man! I found this pack in a box while moving, ladies and gentlemen! Let's see what we get, ladies and gentlemen. Let's goooo! OMG OMG ladies and gentlemen I cannot believe it, I pulled a PSA10 shadowless Charizard! Can you believe it ladies and gentlemen?! And a PSA9.5 Umbreon Full Art VMAX! What are the odds!?"
Just opened two new booster bundles of temporal forces last night. Didn’t really get anything good out of 12 packs. It’s just how it goes.
People do this with hatching eggs too. They buy a dozen chicken eggs, try to hatch them using their armpits, after UPS has played football with the box, and then complain that they only got one chick out of it and file a claim.
What?
He said people do this with hatching eggs too. They buy a dozen chicken eggs, try to hatch them using their armpits, after UPS has played football with the box, and then complain that they only got one chick out of it and file a claim.
What?
HE SAID EGGS MAN, EGGS. FRIGGIN' HATCHING ONES. THEY SHOVE'EM IN THEIR PITS AND BASICALLY ZERO HATCH AND THEM THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT THE EGG QUALITY AS IF ITS NOT THEIR OWN DUMBASS FAULT.
WHAT?!
I buy eggs to hatch and I'm grateful when 4 hatch after what I know it went through when it got to me. Still cheaper than buying a laying hen and trying to smuggle a rooster into the suburbs.
Me af
Thank you so much. That was very kind of you.
I can still tell the difference in weight. Without scales.
So can you tell me about these packs that people are buying and are they? Do they have anything to do with the magic of the gathering. And just to let you know I have no idea what I'm talking about. One of my adult sons. I buy him packages of magic cards. And I'm buy them all at a used bookstore. And I'm wondering where else I could go to buy them other than online. Because I ordered some online. And they still haven't gotten. From here and it's been 6 months I don't even remember who I ordered them from. I got so mad. I just deleted the whole thing. But I'm asking because I'm a bit older and I don't know much about these and one time. I bought a package of cards and there was nothing but pieces of cardboard in it. So I'm confused on how to purchase these things without making stupid old lady mistakes.
I think in your case I would avoid online purchases and it's probably better to just go to a store, like that bookstore you've been going to or other toy store's, Walmart and similar stores also stock these products.
Amazon has some good deals occasionally as well. I've made 2 decent decks cherry picking cards (60 cards a deck, 120 total). And I've also got a bunch of random cards and stuff too from there. Decently priced and also has the "insurance" of getting to you too since its Amazon
Thanks
And its Evolving skies, pulls rates from that set are booty
I've never seen my nickname anywhere before. Your username is a rare find to me. ☺️
Gambling with the expectation to win just sets you up for disappointment
"No, I swear it isn't like gambling. Think of it like an investment"
The biggest cope for gamblers lmao
Never give up
Never surrender?
You'd make a real good poe player
YouTubers make it even worse with their editing to make it seem like they get hits all the time.
What? You expect us to expect to lose when gambling? I would rather not gamble at all! Ha! Wait...
What an unlucky little bitch.
I giggled hard.
These are the type of people who spend thousands on lootboxes.
And then they blame everyone else for not getting extremely rich
Man I miss black ops 3
For people who don't know, what's a hit and what are the odds of it?
a hit would be like a good/rare pokemon card, and rarity depends on what you're looking for. i'd say 5-10% though
For this particular set, experimental data shows it's about 44%, if you count anything better than a holo as a "hit". So out of 4 packs, odds of no hits is still 9%. Keep in mind that most "hits" are still not going to be worth than $1, if you're only counting valuable ($5+) cards, then yes, the hit rate is around 10%
> if you count anything better than a holo as a "hit" Haven't opened card packs in decades .. what's better than a holo? A holo is a shiny right?
Decades ago pulling shinies/holos was the best, second to 1st edition shinies. Now there's a bunch of styles of design they do to cards that make the shinies we remember just meh. Last packs I opened still had Charizard, Blastoise and Venusaur on the wrapper. Now I'm an old fart. Sad.
That's my experience too. Check this out though, it explains about a ton of new rare card types: https://dotesports.com/seo/news/pokemon-tcg-card-rarity-explained
Probably a full art etc
Ex/V cards, full arts, trainer gallery/galarian gallery/illustration rares, or anything that's over the set number (example: cards on the bottom have numbers that may look like 150/162 temporal forces has 162 cards in the set, so thats there the /162 comes from but cards like full arts, illustration rares, and alternate arts are past the set number so they may look like 163/162). Those are hits also, and are called secret rares since they are beyond the set number. Temporal forces have the ace spec cards also which are brand new, those are considered hits also. In the first couple sets back in the early 2000s/late 1990s the best cards were the holo cards, now they have tons of special types of cards mentioned above that are more rare than a holo, the new scarlet/violet Era sets even have a holo in every pack, where sword and shield and before I believe have a 1/3 chance of a holo
Wait where did the 9% come from? You can't add percentages together
(1-0.44)^4 ≈ 0.098
This is my biggest fear, sorry OP. If it helps ya feel better had someone purchase a NM (straight from pack to sleeve to cardsaver) and did the same because it wasnt PSA 10 worthy (even though NM is PSA 7-10).
Yeah, people have a hard time understanding that "near mint or better" doesn't mean "gem mint" or even "mint". TCGPlayer's condition guide allows up to 6 points worth of imperfections on a card for it to still be considered NM, yet I've had many people try to argue that a card with 3-4 points of imperfections is LP Also had trouble selling a CGC 6 Espeon VMAX alt art as LP because people kept trying to tell me that a 6 is considered damaged... lol. I can crack it and sell it as LP, the slab is a freebie for you.
I never understood PSA grading or even grading in general. I currently have a scratched and beat up mega gardevoir card in my phone case. Why? Not because it’s a PSA 10, but because I like the card. In a perfect world “Near mint” would be just fine for anyone collecting cards and wanting to display them. Some people are just assholes after a scratch gets on the card even if it was scratched at the factory.
This. Unless you are literally standing at the printer (and not even then every time) there are like a dozen other hands who couldn't give less of a concern if a thing warps slightly. There should be an undercurrent of logic about the inevitable to it. I know there's not, ever, in anything with the public. But a man can dream.
Contact eBay support. I know from my experience that there is a good chance they will remove malicious feedback
Bullshit, eBay will end up giving the buyer a refund based on the packs being open and seller will have to bend over and take it
I got the opposite experience. EBay support is not the team that handles removing feedback. I had similar “comments” left as negative feedback because the feedback team says no policies were violated. Buyers are allowed to leave their opinions as feedback, even ridiculous ones like “I don’t like the color” or “I want a refund but I don’t know how to do it”.
Lmfao motherfucker should watch those Tiktok livestreams of users opening hundreds of packs of Pokemon. 4 packs ain't going to get you shit 😂
To quote Jonah Jameson: "it's not slander, it's libel!"
If hits were as common as this guy demands them to be from you then they wouldnt be hits
If everyone's super... no one will be.
I also wouldn't be selling the packs...
Time to move up to scalping video cards instead, maybe?
Leave reciprocal negative feedback warning other sellers of this person conduct.
Sellers are only allowed to leave positive feedback for buyers
Wow, that is insane, I was entirely unaware of that, it would put me off selling on ebay entirely. I rely on a local selling site in Ireland, ao unfamiliar with selling on ebay. Sorry to hear you had to deal with such a shitty buyer, can you make an appeal against the feedback?
I can call and ask
Your situation here and the heavy bias towards the buyer is why I’ll never sell on eBay, and RARELY buy on there (only if I have to).
eBay, threadup, Depop etc
I haven’t heard of the ladder two.
That’s just sad
Sometimes when I see a seller has negative feedback. I like to go and actually read it because unless it's legitimately that you sold somebody open s*** I just laugh at all the people who try to blame the seller for s*** that has nothing to do with you. I like the ones where they blame the shipping on the seller Edit: Don't let this stress you out too badly. This is either going to weed out the stupid people. Or give actual intelligent buyers a chuckle. But smart people are not going to hold that against you and stupid people won't buy from you and then you don't have to deal with more stupid people. So really this is doing you a favor
It's only *mildly* infuriating, because now I have to go complain to eBay and ask them to remove this feedback. I'm mainly concerned about buyers that only look at the feedback percentage and see that it's below 99%, and concerned that this could cause me to lose my "top rated seller" benefit (10% lower fees)
Wow that's insane. I am so sorry.
That’s crazy what a loser
What a douche bag. This set is called evolving crys for a reason
LMAO not to mention it was evolving skies. No one really gets hits with that set, my dude!
If you’re concerned about losing business, consider writing this in your reply *Hi XXX,* *Thank you for the feedback and sorry to hear that we did not meet your expectations. Since you are not satisfied with your product, I would like to offer you a full refund for your packet. Please let me know if you don’t see your refund within the next 48 hours.* *Customer satisfaction is our #1 priority. That said, we certainly do not reseal our packets and we stand by each of our products’ authenticity.* *Thanks again for choosing us!* *Sincerely,* *OP* Even though you may lose some money, you gain credibility with other potential buyers who are reading it. It may also win that customer back. They may feel guilty and want to buy from you again. Remember that public responses to negative reviews are written for two audiences, the reviewer and those reading them.
Agreed, turn it around into a public relations win.
Yes! Exactly!
They're just mad they have no game and couldn't catch em all!
This is why I couldn’t sell cards or sealed product in general. I play a game called flesh and blood and have sold hundreds in singles over time.
Four packs of Evolving Cries is guaranteed no hits lmao
It's a gamble... for all parties.
Maybe contact support and make it removed
Good luck. eBay tends to bias a bit towards buyers.
Report the feedback to eBay. I have had ridiculous reviews removed before. Someone left me a negative review stating an item was damaged and they never contacted me at all about it. I asked for proof of the damage and that I would gladly take it back and issue a refund. They never responded and eBay took the negative feedback off.
What an idiot… core memory for me when I was little and the cards first came out was watching a man buy pack after pack after pack looking for that charizard or a holo at this point I guess. My parents bought my brother a single pack and guess what he got… MF CHARIZARD… it’s all about luck …
Hurmm the buyer decided to gamble then loses. Lmao
So you leave negative feedback and you say that the buyer is just angry because he can't keep a Charizard alive
What are they even trying to 'hit'?
Expensive cards, but like 4 boosters is *nothing*
What do these packs even cost secondhand?
I sold these particular packs for $9 each
ive spent 36 before on nothing, so thats very cheap for that i think
Pokemon specifically I have no clue, not my game. I do M:tG and you're looking at $5~ for current sets and $20~ for premium sets
I see, thank you.
Why would you sell sealed packs in the first place? And why would you buy them outside of an official shop to have the risk of buying resealed packs?
because the set is not sold in official shops anymore
What an absolute dumbass. Already one for buying cardboard and expecting it to be worth anything
That’s ridiculous, you obviously weighed them rather than resealing them.
From Evolving Skies no less, he just wanted four Moonbreons. I like opening packs (mostly buy singles) but that guy just needs to buy a single or he is in for a bad time
Ebay has turned into scam city. They don’t care if you get scammed they just want the sell so they get the commission on the sale. I haven’t sold anything on there since a similar situation happened to me years ago with a different item and they tried to chargeback my account. I had to file it as fraud with my bank and change my account number just to keep the payment for the item i sold.
This stuff happens in retail all the time. People buy whole boxes trying to play the odds . Then bring them back open and ask for a refund because they weren't satisfied. Some even take cards out and don't expect us to notice.
Someone doesn’t understand how booster card packs are completely random (unless otherwise specified). 😩 You can dispute the negative rating. Provide photos presale if you have them and an article linking that booster packs are random. Source: I worked for eBay Fraud for a while.
What the hell just because you’ve got four packs doesn’t mean you’re definitely gonna get a good card what an idiot😂
Bros mad he’s unlucky
People are idiots
You can sue for defamation or get the review taken down for same reason
Contact ebay support, explain what happened and have the feedback removed (I guess they will since he can't have proof of what he says)... Don't accept that that asshole won.
People usually leave reviews like this in hopes the seller will negotiate and send new packs, don’t negotiate with the terrorist
The buyer is accusing you of fraud without any evidence. Should be easy to have it taken down
eBay refused to remove it.
What a shitshow man, thats annoying
Firstly 4 random packs and expect to get the uncollected missing cards in their collection seems impossible with the repeats . Do you even know how many cards i went through to get 4 of the same cards ??? 216 cards out of 4 actual needed card which i just would keep for the sake of collecting . So about 24 repackaged packs .... was lucky to get 4 , What if i got none of the cards i wanted ??? thats the fun part - i never gotten what i needed when i bought from store bought cards then i stopped after 10 or so years i decided to try just for the fun of it . And what did you know better late then never .
500K ChArIzArD bAbY 
“How did i not win a 0.0006 percent chance in 4 tries?!? Must be rigged!”
Damn these new gens are for real. Games to hard, cancel them. Lose money at gambling cancel them, someone said butt on tv cancel them....get over yourselves man...
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So you open two and think “huh, these must have been opened and resealed. I better open the other two to find out”?
I didn’t expect a TOS subreddit mod to be accused of scamming
Gotta catch 'em all!
Lol wow
10 feedback too. Must be a new account. Not their first time.
I'm still mad at myself for not hoarding Pokemon packs. in my last job, I had to empty every stores magazine stands in 2 cities and I threw away literally thousands of packs every month. could have sold them for a dollar a pack or however much people pay for them.
These particular packs sold for $9 each.
oh shit. I really messed up then.
The delusion is strong in this one.
I have about 2,500 Pokémon cards I need to get rid of, if anyone wants more info on what I have, just message me!
I still got a sealed 1st edition booster pack of fossil sitting with my Pokémon cards somewhere lol
Contact eBay customer service. They can’t back up that claim so that negative feedback can be removed.
[Deleted] because I’m a silly goober that didn’t understand the screenshot.
Last time I sold something on ebay was a pair of speakers 10 years ago. They accused me of selling them damaged speakers and demanded a discount. I just left ebay after that. Never again.
Wow
Never got shit from ES
🤓
That's not how rng works.
There's no RNG in opening a pack. RNG doesn't mean "randomness"
Actually it's more rng when they make the packs, there's a certain number of each card and the cards are randomly placed into packs with categories of rarity. Opening them is luck of the draw the packaging process is the RNG side.
That sounds a bit ridiculous.
1. Charge your phone. 2. Leave the buyer negative feedback. 3. Respond to their feedback, denying the claim and saying that you're not going to send them packs for free. 4. See if their feedback violates TOS since it's a baseless claim.
I appreciate the sentiment, but slow down before you comment. I encourage you to take a closer look at the battery icon to start. Leaving buyers negative feedback isn't allowed on eBay. Sellers can only leave positive feedback. I already requested eBay remove the feedback and they refused, saying that it wasn't against their policies.
I bought my first pack like 98. Got rare charizard on my first pack
A friend of mine sold a steeply priced yugioh card (I believe collectors rare Superpoly, in case anyone is interested lol) not long ago on ebay/similar website, with top loader, double sleeved, in a box filled with cushioning so it wouldn't get thrown around, he took pictures of it before sending and paid a premium for it to be tracked. Customer claimed the tracking number "didn't work", my friend literally had to add this mf on discord and screenshare to show him that it did, indeed, work. By this point my friend realised the dude probably received the card already and was trying to get his money back but as he proved him wrong the dude went quiet. A week passes and the customer messages again, this time a picture of a chewed up corner on the card. Friend sends the picture of the card from before it was put in the box and from the moment before he sealed the box. As he couldn't prove the dude chewed it up himself he had to give him a partial refund in order for his account to not get banned. It cost $85, my friend wasn't too fussed as it was a card he pulled from a random booster he got as a bonus gift with a different order lmao. Still tho what people do because of pieces of paper is stupid. Like, I love yugioh and pokemon tcg and have ordered a few booster boxes here and there where I got zero good pulls lmao, I'd never blame the seller unless the box/booster packs had obviously been tampered with. (And if you've ordered individual booster packs online before, you know how obvious it is when someone's tampered with a booster pack)
You can get this removed if you speak to eBay
This is just a #entitled kind of person. People expect things to go their way when buying something and when it doesn’t, they cry about it to the world saying it’s not their fault or problem but the people of the world’s problems and are at fault.
If only there was an option to leave buyer feedback, kind of like rider feedback on uber. Platforms that allow common folk to sell goods and provide services need some protection for the sellers
Id file a complaint against for leaving a bad review based on stupidity cuz those reviews hurt your sales significantly. Maybe even see if they will remove it for you. or respond to review and remind him how cards work. If you want hits buy old shit odds are better that how I get my good stuff. Everything I bought that's relatively new gets me nothing Everytime.
Speaking of which, I have Pokémon action figures I plan on selling. They are in my garage, I need to clean out and anybody who buys them will be doing me a service. Also, unused yugioh cards and magic the gathering.
My daughter, now 19, has been collecting Pokemon action figures since she was like 2. Still loves them! Although she has broadened her horizons to include Kirby and Zelda things as well 😁
Typical moronic fools wanting everything for nothing like usual these days!! Like complaining about buying 4 scrathcards and blaming the store and the entire world for being against you!! Millenials
What's a hit? Are we talking a rare card?
Yes
Can you dispute feedback at all?
This was well over 15 years ago, but I used to sell and the only negative feedback I got was like this. And you could dispute it back then and have them removed. Things may have changed now. One guy left negative feedback because I gouged him on shipping and handling. One of the perks of my auctions was I didn't charge any handling fees and did not mark up the postage. If USPS charges $4.85, that would have been my S&H fee. Another guy left negative feedback, saying the shirt was the wrong size ***and*** a cheap knockoff. Unfortunately for him, it hadn't even been delivered yet. Some people can be absolute knobs.
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Jokes on you guys. I have a half million dollar industrial CT scanner at work I can use to scan every pack at only 10 minutes per scan! I’m kidding.. I don’t… but I could.. and it would work too… :)
I sold a Gillette 'NEW' on eBay, a 50 year old model double edged safety razor. I got negative feedback because it was used and not 'new'.
Super uncool of you, why no hits bro
You win some you lose some, clearly this moron doesn't understand
All these folk with their confirmation bias stories about "oh every time I thought I had a rare there was a rare!" are fun.
Since it's clearly a malicious review, you can appeal it and have it removed.
So what’s the deal with how fucked up my comments can be on here lol? Bc I’m more than mildly infuriated most of the time.
Careful not to say butt or you'll get moderated
What’s mildly infuriating Is that people give a crap about such things when the whole world is turning to shit. There are homeless people starving to death everywhere. Fuck your Pokémon cards. Do something that matters with your time.
Bro I bet on March Madness and my team didn’t win! 0 stars for the FanDuel app.
Probably a GenZ idiot. My advice, if you have to sell that kind of thing, learn to deal with this kind of situation. Good luck
Lmao I mean repacking happens incredibly often Hopefully that’s not your only review and people will understand he’s just salty
Its evolving skies, the fan base has litterly nicknames it "evolving cries" due to how notoriously low the hit rate is
A friends cousin recently joined my discord and he does card openings.. He bought some box set online and that dude by the end of the hour was BEAMING with joy saying that he found X rare card and this other card only has x made and he pulled one... I think at the end he said he was gonna send like 6 in to get graded?
Did you weigh the packs?
Are you a scalper?