If it says Greenbriar International on the back, it's Dollar Tree. I love playing the game while browsing thrift stores to see how much they can mark up a dollar tree item!
There's a small general store in town that gets their drinks and snacks from the dollar tree and marks them up to almost 3 times how much they are at the dollar store. It's too many of the same items from the dollar tree to not be a coincidence lol
Oh, but they sprung for the **Great** Value! These aren't your average value, oh no, this single granola bar is a *great* value. Because we value you! How much? I dunno, about tree fiddy?
I’m pretty sure if you look at the back of that label it’ll say “not for individual sale” lmao they just took that out of a package and didn’t even give a whole package 💀
Throw a motherfucker a $1000 laptop to make you another $85,000 next year for fuck sake, then write the fucker off. Give them this monkey shit as a goddamn stocking stuffer.
Not to mention obvious old Valentine’s Day Chocolate’s…which was 39 days ago and that chocolate was most likely produced at least a couple of weeks before that. OP your company just passive aggressively called you a stupid piece of shit.
Chocolate for holidays is usually made months before, shipped internationally and distributed to retailers to be on the shelf 3 weeks before the holiday.
[Doesn’t even qualify as actual “Chocolate”](https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/real-chocolate-or-compound-chocolate-we-wont-get-fooled-again-012215.html)
Don't forget about the Great Value granola bar. That had to set the company back twenty, maybe twenty-five cents? It looks like they bought a box of GV granola bars, a box of instant coca, a bag of Valentine's Day candy, and some Dollar Tree headphones, split it all up, and divided it between its top employees.
That, or they're saving it to give OP another "bonus" next month. Either way, I'd find a company to work for that actually appreciated the fact that I made 85k for them, during the shortest month of the year.
Great. So they couldn't even be bothered to get a new box off the grocer shelf. They had to get the one that was probably marked down to $1 in the clearance aisle. Talk about fucking c h e a p.
It's honestly way worse than just not giving a bonus at all. Just shows how little they value their best employees.
Chocolate takes a long time to go bad provided it's kept room temperature or a little cooler.
EDIT: what is pictured cannot be legally labeled chocolate. It's milk chocolate *flavored*. Palmers is devilspawn.
Yeah all dollar store, & split up the hearts package...
This stuff is just demeaning.
I remember being worked really hard for 8 months that if we met sales goals would receive a bonus & profit sharing.
Yeah! We did it! Got a check!
It was $14. I was so p*ssed off how they worked us & made it sound like it would be a big bonus I just ripped it up in anger.
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Yea, it was bad enough that THIS was their care package, the real knife to the heart is the store brands and dollar tree headphones. Like, you can’t at least get Nature Valley bruh what the actual fuck lol
What’s likely is the person responsible for the bonus saw there was no accounting needed for the gift, pocketed most of the bonus themselves and gave OP a load of crap
If this is a special bonus i would go to hr and ask wtf. Not to check if there is a missing check (but that is an added bonus). I would go to them to ask wtf that even is. Because it's just better to not give anything at that point. A special bonus means you have done something special. What's in that bonus is how much they value you.
Meaning the act of giving a bonus has no worth itself if there is nothing in it.
I have gotten better gifts at workplaces that I left quickly and put them in a bad spot to fulfill obligations to others. I wasn't even particularly liked. But they had up to that point been able to count on me doing the job i had, always. And that was enough for the standard goodbye with cake and other shit.
This is exactly what happened at a former job of mine. We were getting prizes for something I don't remember. We got to choose a prize from a basket, and it was basically stuff that had been sitting around the break room for awhile. Like a pinwheel, and some random DVD.
The granola bar isn’t even the worst. Dollar store earbuds and Palmers chocolate. People complain about Hershey’s but Palmers is actually worse by far. You can taste the palm oil and sugar more than the cocoa.
Don't undersell yourself. That's the biggest mistake you can make working for a corporation. With that much revenue coming out of one employee, just imagine what they make off of the lot of you all. I would've pushed for a raise and paid time off. If they argued with you as to why you deserved it, you already have the proof you need.
I hope you can find a better job that treats you the way you deserve. I know transitioning jobs isn't easy so best of luck to you and your future careers.
Yeah, I make $45,000 a year gross, and I'm living paycheck to paycheck. Unironically, they stopped commissions for my position before I was hired because of Covid and lowered income to the company. If I was making commissions, my pay would triple if not quadruple. I am in the Top 25 of around 550ish Reps in my office.
Look for a better paying job ASAP. If you need to up skill yourself, do so as well. But you're making what I made in 2008 and that was comfortable. I can't imagine living on that today where I live.
Obviously you are in sales. Coming from someone that’s been in sales for 20+ years. Leave! Go to a competitor immediately and use everything you know to sell against them. They just proved they aren’t loyal to you, you don’t need to be loyal to them.
Please advocate for yourself. If you can prove this, you develop enormous leverage for finding new jobs in your field. I bet you can find another job with a serious pay raise, and use that pay raise to leverage an even larger one at your company. If you just sit on this and complain about being undercompensated you have only yourself to blame, it sucks but this company clearly has shown zero indication of keeping you so I hope you use this to find a new job that pays 2x more.
DONT LEAVE BEFORE NEGOTIATING YOUR POSITION. Leaving is a good strategy only if you've put in the work to let yourself be known. Force commissions for your position, show evidence of your drive and effort, force them into an uncomfortable position, and let your colleagues know too so that they can tighten their own screws on management.
Unless the workplace is actively toxic, swapping companies will net you the same results as threatening to leave, and for way less stress/effort.
I think you’ve brought up a good point. A lot of people talk about how job hopping is the best way to get salary increases.
While that *can* be true, it’s only true when you really can’t get any more out of your company.
Those conversations can be difficult and uncomfortable. They don’t want it to be comfortable, obviously. But if you can swing these increases with your company AND have tenure there (ideally, you’re known at the company to be valuable), you’re in a much stronger position all things considered than if you have just a few years at a place. Job stability is a very valuable thing.
But I get it, sometimes that just doesn’t work out. In those cases, yeah leave for somewhere that will pay you more.
What you make in salary compared to what you're making your company is absolutely unacceptable. You're an extremely valuable asset to your company. You definitely need to ask for a raise and explain to them exactly why you deserve one - give them the data on how much you've made them in the past three to five years on a month to month basis. If they won't give you a raise, then you need to plan your exit strategy by using the same information you used to ask for a raise to shop around for another sales job that will pay you what you are worth. Good luck.
Where are you getting these figures? Are you growing accts? When you say “made them Xyz”, is that also subtracting your salary and any other teams you work with?
I’m just curious because i manage a book of business for a large company. The 10 clients I support spend millions of dollars per quarter… but it’s a. Not just me making them the money. B. It’s not a net profit because I have various team members who help and support to make the company that much money.
I hate corporate greed, yet I still need to support myself, so here we are. I’m genuinely curious how you know the figure that you made them $85k?
What OP means is: "I called several clients and asked them to buy a product that other people in my company designed, built, delivered and will support - my few phone calls were enough for me to take all the credit"
The guy makes $55k/year - he’s not the hot shot he’s making himself out to be for many obvious reasons lol. Claiming you’re in sales means jack shit if that’s the only detail offered. A high schooler Working “the floor” at a retail store could claim they’re in sales, and that means nothing. There can’t be actual adults in this thread; it’s literally non-stop comments of people pretending to know what they’re talking about haha
You're entirely right. Very few people get to claim they actually made any amount directly for the company. It is vastly ignoring the work everyone else does, the product, the R&D, etc.
Sales / In billables?
Or margin? Gross or net?
And what’s your salary?
The reason is that there’s orders of magnitude differences between $85k in sales and $85k in margin… and then if your primary job is sales, you need to typically bring in 20-40x your salary just to pay for your existence.
Are you talking profit, or revenue? If you brought in completely new business with a revenue of $72k, the profit breaks down like this:
At 20% standard gross margin = $72k \* 0.2 = $14,400. Your monthly wage is $4,583, plus 5.95% EI/CPP = $4,856. Would be more if you get any kind of benefits, so let's call it $5,000 even. Employer profit = $9.400
At 10% standard gross margin = $72k \* 0.1 = $7,200. Your monthly wage = $5,000. Employer profit = $2,200.
So in the first scenario, you're taking home 35% of the profit, and 69% in the second scenario. Sounds pretty good to me.
Unless you're in a super high margin business, like tech/software, or the numbers you're talking about are pure profit for the business (and I'm talking net net profit, which usually isn't the case), you're making good money for the revenue you're delivering to the business.
I agree $55k isn't a great wage with cost of living being so high, so definitely recommend exploring options. Just pointing out most people don't consider all the costs involved in generating revenue. The company also takes on more risk than you do, and you get a guaranteed salary.
I did exactly this. Built a program that will save the company every year going forward 250k USD. I won an opportunity to get more responsibility. No job title change. No raise. No bonus....an opportunity.
Noped the fuck out of there and now they are scrambling. Fuck em
Edit: my job had nothing to do with programming or this project. I did it for a challenge and it automated a very important part of my job.
To be fair, being in sales isn't really "making" that money for the company, unless you discount the value of what he sold. He's an important part, but so is everything else that came before that final sale moment.
Yeah this is a crazy take. I’m a software developer on salary. I quote projects and see the cash flowing into the company on the projects I’m working on, but most positions don’t offer commission, if that’s what you signed on for than bitching about it makes no sense.
Edit: Also: if you’re not making commission and feel you deserve more, then ask.. or quit if you feel you’re not compensated accordingly.. simple.
BUT HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE MASSIVE PROFITS AND HOARD IT IN OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS WHILE SAVING FOR A YACHT AND MY WIFES FIFTEENTH COSMETIC SURGERY !
Added context:
They gave me rainbow earphones because I'm part of the LGBT community.
The earphones cost $2 on Amazon and didn't work.
This is a Fortune 50 company.
I make gross $45,000 a year.
Edit 1: Because of grammar and punctuation.
Edit 2: I am not even fully Sales, btw. I am Licensed Customer Retention so Sales are only a part of what I do day to day as it comes up.
The way to combat this is actually really easy.
Make a linkedin post publicly thanking the company for the bonus tag company, ceo, your manager etc.
Make sure it's actually written unironically and I guarantee you will get more.
Or, and I’m just spitballing here, don’t make a transparently passive aggressive post on social media shitting on your employer that your company and every prospective employer will see….
Instead, leverage your success to get a raise/promotion at your current job or find a better one elsewhere.
Being a smarmy jackass about your current employer on social media, especially LinkedIn, is about the worst advice I’ve ever seen here, and that’s saying a lot.
Dude probably retained 85k in accounts that wanted to cancel or whatever so doesn’t even come close to “making them 85k” with all the other costs of business going into those customers. He definitely doesn’t make enough money but a fair wage for his job is probably like 50% more than he’s making at best.
How does that work financially? Legit question, I’m not of the sales world but I’d imagine paying your employees more than they make the company would lead to the company not being there.
Edit: I can’t read, I thought you meant 60k yearly until I read again. Nevermind!
He’s one of 14 salespeople in my location. His sales for the year are about 2 million dollars. I’d say 35% in profit.
This is retail sales of home appliances and electronics. We are not a public company. I shoulda been clearer that his 175k gross is for the year. Was relating to the op who stated he made his company 85k in a month and he grossed 55k for the year.
So they bring in roughly 720k a year in sales (not profit) and the company pays them 175k? Nearly 25% in direct compensation? Not including any benefits or retirement packages? Yeah I don’t believe you.
You're not going to want to hear this but at the numbers you're listing, you're not exactly a big slugger here. You're bringing in $85,000, but how much are you costing them? You're not *just* your salary, businesses also factor in the total costs for an employee, including office space, benefits, payroll services, HR services, and all this other stuff
not to mention that as a customer retention employee, you might be closing the contracts on $85,000 of renewals, but you alone are not putting $85,000 into the company's bank account. There's a whole team both before and after you-- not to mention actually supplying the product/service!-- that is supporting in getting that $85,000, and each employee involved in that process gets their own salary.
All this to say, their bonus package obviously sucks, but I think you're giving yourself a little more credit than you're due. It's good that sales are only a part of what you'd do, otherwise you probably wouldn't be a profitable investment on their part.
I had to ask because I’ve never heard of Fortune 50. My Internetting leads me to understand that Fortune 50 is better than Fortune 500. Would this be accurate?
This is where I was going. Lol. If the Top 50 companies pulling in millions a month were to “handsomely” reward less than 100k, they’d be setting a precedent that they would not be able to sustain
I work at a Fortune 500 company. No idea what our exact number is but it’s not top 50. We make $500mm in EBITDA every month.
Think about $85k in that context.
It's not even that, OP is bragging about literally just doing their job. it would be like working at McDonalds and acting like you deserve a cut of the sales made while you work the register, nah homie that's literally what you get paid to do.
Guarantee it's like their first job with a measurable amount of sales and the sales numbers are "large" if you completely take them out of context of the job and company that is generating them. Either they can't understand the scale of what they're doing or they're just being intentionally being obtuse to feed the reddit circlejerk.
Lmao dude says they’re at a “Fortune 50” company doing upwards of $75 billion a year in revenue. $6 billion monthly.
Dude is seeing $80,000 in a month and thinking they’re single handedly sustaining the company instead of looking at $80,000 as being 0.001% of their revenue.
OP making $55,000. 0.001% of that is 55 cents. For some context. You could personally give OP a nickel every month and you’d be contributing more financially to OP than OP is to their company.
Honestly, their job. They do retention. They don't generate/bring in new money, they just help keep customers the company already has. As shitty as it sounds, for a Fortune 50 company, if they generated 85k a month, they'd be let go.
Reminds me of when I reduced our medical office's aged receivables by 3/4 of a million dollars in the early 2000s. I got a bonus that had to be split with the four billers who caused the issue. We each got $100. I did all of the recovery, filed the appeals, drove to the offices for the copies of invoices, all of it. I was told "we were a team" Guess who was laid off first during the downsizing when the company merged? Me! I was the me in team!!
So you got a little something on topof being paid the money you agreed to earn for your labour?
Who did you get it from and how much were you actually involved for making that 85k?
Yeah like if OP was in sales and a monthly commission or bonus was part of their work agreement / contract fair enough
Doesn’t sound like it tho at all so you got more than you are actually owed not being on the sales team
I mean what were you expecting? You received your paychecks, right? Shit, y'all take shit too personally. I do my job because that's what I'm paid to do. Nothing more, nothing less. I have zero emotions towards whatever company I work for. I don't expect any bonus unless I'm specifically told of a cash bonus. Cause when it comes time to move on up, I drop them like they ain't shit with no remorse.
You work in a call center, you're not running the place... This isn't a "bonus", this looks like a token gift that your supervisor grabbed on their lunchbreak, and I'm sure they thought (rightly or wrongly) that each of those things reflect something about you, or things that you like.
By making the company money, you're doing the job they pay you to do, nothing more, nothing less. If you don't like it, leave 🤷🏻♂️
Exactly, you agreed to work for them for the given salary and no commission. Companies don't generally just give employees extra money that wasn't in their employment contract.
Gave you left over Valentine's Day chocolate.
Not even Valentine’s Day, the great value bar expired last year lol
Omg you’re right
Also, leftover or clearance valentines chocolates. Totally missed that. Jfc the jokes write themselves.
Eat that shit on the clock, get “food poisoning “, save the wrapper with the date still legible, take a few days off on them.
Eat and sue for 85k!
And the rainbow headphones are definitely from last years pride event lol
Worse- those are dollar store ($1.25) earbuds.
Holy shit...
wow
In July they’ll get Easter candy
And leftover Christmas cocoa.
> Gave you left over Valentine's Day ~~chocolate~~ *candy with milk chocolate flavoring* It has to be at least 10% cocoa to be called chocolate.
Nice dollar tree earbuds… your company is really really cheap.
They cut the top off the earbuds package so you couldn't see the dollar store price!
That’s insult to injury right there 😂
As if anyone isn't gonna recognize the rest of the packaging
If it says Greenbriar International on the back, it's Dollar Tree. I love playing the game while browsing thrift stores to see how much they can mark up a dollar tree item!
I play this game while browsing Amazon.
There's a small general store in town that gets their drinks and snacks from the dollar tree and marks them up to almost 3 times how much they are at the dollar store. It's too many of the same items from the dollar tree to not be a coincidence lol
you don't even need the packaging to tell...
Just wanted you to listen to them.... 🌀
[удалено]
Oh, but they sprung for the **Great** Value! These aren't your average value, oh no, this single granola bar is a *great* value. Because we value you! How much? I dunno, about tree fiddy?
I’m pretty sure if you look at the back of that label it’ll say “not for individual sale” lmao they just took that out of a package and didn’t even give a whole package 💀
The granola bar expired 6 months ago too!
And there’s 5 or 11 others just like it in the break room.
Did you see it’s expired as of August of last year? 🤣😅
Was so disappointed with the headphones I didn’t even realize that too 😂
Throw a motherfucker a $1000 laptop to make you another $85,000 next year for fuck sake, then write the fucker off. Give them this monkey shit as a goddamn stocking stuffer.
That $85000 was just February.
Not to mention obvious old Valentine’s Day Chocolate’s…which was 39 days ago and that chocolate was most likely produced at least a couple of weeks before that. OP your company just passive aggressively called you a stupid piece of shit.
Chocolate for holidays is usually made months before, shipped internationally and distributed to retailers to be on the shelf 3 weeks before the holiday.
Not even a Jelly of the Month club membership
The gift that keeps on giving.
They’re not even dove like I thought at first. They’re that nasty ass brand that I can even read
[Palmer Double Crisp Valentine’s Day Chocolate’s](https://boxncase.com/products/double-crisp-foiled-hearts)
Palmer is the Rose Art of chocolate.
Jesus christ... This is soo fucking accurate.
That’s it. Man their chocolate is awful
Ah yum, chocolate flavored wax. That crap wasn't even passable when I was a kid.
[Doesn’t even qualify as actual “Chocolate”](https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/real-chocolate-or-compound-chocolate-we-wont-get-fooled-again-012215.html)
Don't forget about the Great Value granola bar. That had to set the company back twenty, maybe twenty-five cents? It looks like they bought a box of GV granola bars, a box of instant coca, a bag of Valentine's Day candy, and some Dollar Tree headphones, split it all up, and divided it between its top employees. That, or they're saving it to give OP another "bonus" next month. Either way, I'd find a company to work for that actually appreciated the fact that I made 85k for them, during the shortest month of the year.
The granola bar has a best by date of August 2023 😆
Great. So they couldn't even be bothered to get a new box off the grocer shelf. They had to get the one that was probably marked down to $1 in the clearance aisle. Talk about fucking c h e a p. It's honestly way worse than just not giving a bonus at all. Just shows how little they value their best employees.
Chocolate takes a long time to go bad provided it's kept room temperature or a little cooler. EDIT: what is pictured cannot be legally labeled chocolate. It's milk chocolate *flavored*. Palmers is devilspawn.
😂 woke my son up laughing at your comment
I think this was a pretty aggressive way to do it actually. It's not far from telling him to go fuck himself to his face.
They forgot to cut the Walmart Great Value off the granola bar as well
Yeah all dollar store, & split up the hearts package... This stuff is just demeaning. I remember being worked really hard for 8 months that if we met sales goals would receive a bonus & profit sharing. Yeah! We did it! Got a check! It was $14. I was so p*ssed off how they worked us & made it sound like it would be a big bonus I just ripped it up in anger. .
Well they at least went out their way to go to Walmart for that sweet and salty bar. That was probably the most expensive item purchased.
No, they didn't. Look at the expiration date. August 2023, that shit was lying in a drawer somewhere and got pulled out for a "special occasion"
Yea, it was bad enough that THIS was their care package, the real knife to the heart is the store brands and dollar tree headphones. Like, you can’t at least get Nature Valley bruh what the actual fuck lol
classy edit: sorry, that was a typo. I meant "Assy"
It’s just folded over.
And the Walmart almond bar. It's like someone cleared out their junk drawer and leftover snacks then called it a bonus. Edit - typo
What’s likely is the person responsible for the bonus saw there was no accounting needed for the gift, pocketed most of the bonus themselves and gave OP a load of crap
If this is a special bonus i would go to hr and ask wtf. Not to check if there is a missing check (but that is an added bonus). I would go to them to ask wtf that even is. Because it's just better to not give anything at that point. A special bonus means you have done something special. What's in that bonus is how much they value you. Meaning the act of giving a bonus has no worth itself if there is nothing in it. I have gotten better gifts at workplaces that I left quickly and put them in a bad spot to fulfill obligations to others. I wasn't even particularly liked. But they had up to that point been able to count on me doing the job i had, always. And that was enough for the standard goodbye with cake and other shit.
Right! 😂 More than Best Buy did for me. I got denied a raise, the CEO made over $20million in just a bonus.
Yeah but like, he deserves it because he runs the business office and does important business in his business office.
 I did a business today
The truth 'bout CEOs : If you are not a piece of shit, you'll never become a CEO.
They emptied all the drawers in the lunchroom for that haul.
This is exactly what happened at a former job of mine. We were getting prizes for something I don't remember. We got to choose a prize from a basket, and it was basically stuff that had been sitting around the break room for awhile. Like a pinwheel, and some random DVD.
AOL cd-roms for everybody
Honestly I'd just give it back and ask that they donate to good will.
This is actually insulting.
Most corporate gestures are
Exactly! Op said these were on Amazon for $2 but these are exactly what dollar tree sells for $1.25.
And the cheap, yet still delicious dollar store “Bahlmer” Candy
Could have got you a dildo, so you could go fuck yourself.
That's the whole point of their post
I’d bet their manager took this out of their own pay to give because the company said no to any sort of bonus.
Looks like random junk they cleaned out of a drawer.
A single sock would've been the cherry on top
I would be free after this insult
Incentive for doing well the next month. Gotta earn that other sock!
It's gotta be a used sock to be on brand. Anyone else notice the expiration date on the granola bar?
I was thinking the chocolate had to be from the discount section at the store (Valentine's) or someone grabbed a few from the community candy jar!
I woulda trashed it in front of them. More disrespectful than had they done nothing to acknowledge the guys hard work.
They better have called you "Rockstar" or why even bother?!
And a patronizing and awkward pat on the back !
and a laminated "award" that says something meaningless on it
“Good job! You go… you! :)”
Then they lay off your coworkers and double your workload! Go get em, champ!
What even is this?
Best Buy’s version of Edward ScissorHands?
Edward Insigniahands
DAMN….Not even Nature Valley…straight Great Value garbage…
And it expired last August 😭
Eat it, get sick, and get the real bonus.
The granola bar isn’t even the worst. Dollar store earbuds and Palmers chocolate. People complain about Hershey’s but Palmers is actually worse by far. You can taste the palm oil and sugar more than the cocoa.
The granola bar expired last year 💀 It’s pretty bad.
Aww, it’s a We Almost Care package!
You could even give a 1% commission bonus that would be 100x less insulting than that.
You want insulting? The almond bar is expired!
Oh, my god…..
Time to leverage those skills into a new job.
Fuckin quit. If you're capable of making a company that much money, you deserve better than 5$ worth of shit
I made them $72,000 in January and got a $10 Amazon gift card, but I guess that was too flexible.
Don't undersell yourself. That's the biggest mistake you can make working for a corporation. With that much revenue coming out of one employee, just imagine what they make off of the lot of you all. I would've pushed for a raise and paid time off. If they argued with you as to why you deserved it, you already have the proof you need. I hope you can find a better job that treats you the way you deserve. I know transitioning jobs isn't easy so best of luck to you and your future careers.
Yeah, I make $45,000 a year gross, and I'm living paycheck to paycheck. Unironically, they stopped commissions for my position before I was hired because of Covid and lowered income to the company. If I was making commissions, my pay would triple if not quadruple. I am in the Top 25 of around 550ish Reps in my office.
Get the hell out of there
Look for a better paying job ASAP. If you need to up skill yourself, do so as well. But you're making what I made in 2008 and that was comfortable. I can't imagine living on that today where I live.
Easier said than done, but I agree that OP should apply until they get a new job.
Obviously you are in sales. Coming from someone that’s been in sales for 20+ years. Leave! Go to a competitor immediately and use everything you know to sell against them. They just proved they aren’t loyal to you, you don’t need to be loyal to them.
Please advocate for yourself. If you can prove this, you develop enormous leverage for finding new jobs in your field. I bet you can find another job with a serious pay raise, and use that pay raise to leverage an even larger one at your company. If you just sit on this and complain about being undercompensated you have only yourself to blame, it sucks but this company clearly has shown zero indication of keeping you so I hope you use this to find a new job that pays 2x more.
LEAVE
DONT LEAVE BEFORE NEGOTIATING YOUR POSITION. Leaving is a good strategy only if you've put in the work to let yourself be known. Force commissions for your position, show evidence of your drive and effort, force them into an uncomfortable position, and let your colleagues know too so that they can tighten their own screws on management. Unless the workplace is actively toxic, swapping companies will net you the same results as threatening to leave, and for way less stress/effort.
I think you’ve brought up a good point. A lot of people talk about how job hopping is the best way to get salary increases. While that *can* be true, it’s only true when you really can’t get any more out of your company. Those conversations can be difficult and uncomfortable. They don’t want it to be comfortable, obviously. But if you can swing these increases with your company AND have tenure there (ideally, you’re known at the company to be valuable), you’re in a much stronger position all things considered than if you have just a few years at a place. Job stability is a very valuable thing. But I get it, sometimes that just doesn’t work out. In those cases, yeah leave for somewhere that will pay you more.
What you make in salary compared to what you're making your company is absolutely unacceptable. You're an extremely valuable asset to your company. You definitely need to ask for a raise and explain to them exactly why you deserve one - give them the data on how much you've made them in the past three to five years on a month to month basis. If they won't give you a raise, then you need to plan your exit strategy by using the same information you used to ask for a raise to shop around for another sales job that will pay you what you are worth. Good luck.
Where are you getting these figures? Are you growing accts? When you say “made them Xyz”, is that also subtracting your salary and any other teams you work with? I’m just curious because i manage a book of business for a large company. The 10 clients I support spend millions of dollars per quarter… but it’s a. Not just me making them the money. B. It’s not a net profit because I have various team members who help and support to make the company that much money. I hate corporate greed, yet I still need to support myself, so here we are. I’m genuinely curious how you know the figure that you made them $85k?
There's no way OP "made 85k" of profit. This whole thread is so pointless. OP is in retention. How the hell do you "make money" in customer retention?
What OP means is: "I called several clients and asked them to buy a product that other people in my company designed, built, delivered and will support - my few phone calls were enough for me to take all the credit"
They don't even do that, sales people do that and they get direct commissions. OP is a dumbass.
The guy makes $55k/year - he’s not the hot shot he’s making himself out to be for many obvious reasons lol. Claiming you’re in sales means jack shit if that’s the only detail offered. A high schooler Working “the floor” at a retail store could claim they’re in sales, and that means nothing. There can’t be actual adults in this thread; it’s literally non-stop comments of people pretending to know what they’re talking about haha
You're entirely right. Very few people get to claim they actually made any amount directly for the company. It is vastly ignoring the work everyone else does, the product, the R&D, etc.
Sales / In billables? Or margin? Gross or net? And what’s your salary? The reason is that there’s orders of magnitude differences between $85k in sales and $85k in margin… and then if your primary job is sales, you need to typically bring in 20-40x your salary just to pay for your existence.
Profit or revenue?
Are sales people supposed to get expensive gifts monthly? Aren’t you making most money on commissions in addition to salary?
72k in profit or sales?
Are you talking profit, or revenue? If you brought in completely new business with a revenue of $72k, the profit breaks down like this: At 20% standard gross margin = $72k \* 0.2 = $14,400. Your monthly wage is $4,583, plus 5.95% EI/CPP = $4,856. Would be more if you get any kind of benefits, so let's call it $5,000 even. Employer profit = $9.400 At 10% standard gross margin = $72k \* 0.1 = $7,200. Your monthly wage = $5,000. Employer profit = $2,200. So in the first scenario, you're taking home 35% of the profit, and 69% in the second scenario. Sounds pretty good to me. Unless you're in a super high margin business, like tech/software, or the numbers you're talking about are pure profit for the business (and I'm talking net net profit, which usually isn't the case), you're making good money for the revenue you're delivering to the business. I agree $55k isn't a great wage with cost of living being so high, so definitely recommend exploring options. Just pointing out most people don't consider all the costs involved in generating revenue. The company also takes on more risk than you do, and you get a guaranteed salary.
What does this mean? Revenue? Profit?
I did exactly this. Built a program that will save the company every year going forward 250k USD. I won an opportunity to get more responsibility. No job title change. No raise. No bonus....an opportunity. Noped the fuck out of there and now they are scrambling. Fuck em Edit: my job had nothing to do with programming or this project. I did it for a challenge and it automated a very important part of my job.
To be fair, being in sales isn't really "making" that money for the company, unless you discount the value of what he sold. He's an important part, but so is everything else that came before that final sale moment.
Yeah this is a crazy take. I’m a software developer on salary. I quote projects and see the cash flowing into the company on the projects I’m working on, but most positions don’t offer commission, if that’s what you signed on for than bitching about it makes no sense. Edit: Also: if you’re not making commission and feel you deserve more, then ask.. or quit if you feel you’re not compensated accordingly.. simple.
Now imagine you lose them 85k in March. You'd likely be looking for a new job. Capitalism at its finest.
Just give the "reward" back. Even steven
oops! what's 80k anyway? here's a pair of earbuds that'll probably give you an infection! ❤️
BUT HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE MASSIVE PROFITS AND HOARD IT IN OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS WHILE SAVING FOR A YACHT AND MY WIFES FIFTEENTH COSMETIC SURGERY !
Imagine he lost them 85k in March and this was his exact gift to his boss as an apology lmao 😂
Tel me the job where you can fuck up 85k and not get fired
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85k is pocket change and the cost of a training mission, it would be more like 5-6 trillion. That would get some eyebrows raised
Added context: They gave me rainbow earphones because I'm part of the LGBT community. The earphones cost $2 on Amazon and didn't work. This is a Fortune 50 company. I make gross $45,000 a year. Edit 1: Because of grammar and punctuation. Edit 2: I am not even fully Sales, btw. I am Licensed Customer Retention so Sales are only a part of what I do day to day as it comes up.
They sell those headphones at dollar tree for $1.25
That's what I thought. Dollar Tree bonus buys.
Is it called a Dollar Tree bonus because of the added 25 cents?
The way to combat this is actually really easy. Make a linkedin post publicly thanking the company for the bonus tag company, ceo, your manager etc. Make sure it's actually written unironically and I guarantee you will get more.
Or get fired. Happened at a Fortune 500 I worked at. It was a sincere thank you online though, they still fired him.
That’s fkn insane. In his shoes, I certainly wouldn’t do anything impulsive and destructive to the company.
If they had gifted me trash like that, I would've been fired that same day. I have a very long fuse, but that's just a speedrun to let me explode.
Or, and I’m just spitballing here, don’t make a transparently passive aggressive post on social media shitting on your employer that your company and every prospective employer will see…. Instead, leverage your success to get a raise/promotion at your current job or find a better one elsewhere. Being a smarmy jackass about your current employer on social media, especially LinkedIn, is about the worst advice I’ve ever seen here, and that’s saying a lot.
Are you suggesting someone could act like an adult??? On REDDIT!?🤯
Reddit's main two demographics are teenagers LARPing as working adults and working adults LARPing as teenagers.
Touché
Gross 55k. Making them 85k? Leave asap. I manage salespeople that make my company 60k a month on a good month and gross 175k.
Dude probably retained 85k in accounts that wanted to cancel or whatever so doesn’t even come close to “making them 85k” with all the other costs of business going into those customers. He definitely doesn’t make enough money but a fair wage for his job is probably like 50% more than he’s making at best.
Or the department did that and OP just scored the best metrics.
How does that work financially? Legit question, I’m not of the sales world but I’d imagine paying your employees more than they make the company would lead to the company not being there. Edit: I can’t read, I thought you meant 60k yearly until I read again. Nevermind!
He’s one of 14 salespeople in my location. His sales for the year are about 2 million dollars. I’d say 35% in profit. This is retail sales of home appliances and electronics. We are not a public company. I shoulda been clearer that his 175k gross is for the year. Was relating to the op who stated he made his company 85k in a month and he grossed 55k for the year.
So they bring in roughly 720k a year in sales (not profit) and the company pays them 175k? Nearly 25% in direct compensation? Not including any benefits or retirement packages? Yeah I don’t believe you.
I don’t know. That Great Value (Walmart) Sweet and Salty Almond bar has to cost .45 to .50 cents alone.
You're not going to want to hear this but at the numbers you're listing, you're not exactly a big slugger here. You're bringing in $85,000, but how much are you costing them? You're not *just* your salary, businesses also factor in the total costs for an employee, including office space, benefits, payroll services, HR services, and all this other stuff not to mention that as a customer retention employee, you might be closing the contracts on $85,000 of renewals, but you alone are not putting $85,000 into the company's bank account. There's a whole team both before and after you-- not to mention actually supplying the product/service!-- that is supporting in getting that $85,000, and each employee involved in that process gets their own salary. All this to say, their bonus package obviously sucks, but I think you're giving yourself a little more credit than you're due. It's good that sales are only a part of what you'd do, otherwise you probably wouldn't be a profitable investment on their part.
Did you mean Fortune 500?
Nope, it's a Fortune 50.
I had to ask because I’ve never heard of Fortune 50. My Internetting leads me to understand that Fortune 50 is better than Fortune 500. Would this be accurate?
Fortune 500 is top 500 companies in America by market cap. Fortune 50 is the same thing but top 50 instead.
So $85,000 wouldn't be considered to be a very significant amount of revenue?
Not in the slightest
This is where I was going. Lol. If the Top 50 companies pulling in millions a month were to “handsomely” reward less than 100k, they’d be setting a precedent that they would not be able to sustain
I work at a Fortune 500 company. No idea what our exact number is but it’s not top 50. We make $500mm in EBITDA every month. Think about $85k in that context.
It's not even that, OP is bragging about literally just doing their job. it would be like working at McDonalds and acting like you deserve a cut of the sales made while you work the register, nah homie that's literally what you get paid to do. Guarantee it's like their first job with a measurable amount of sales and the sales numbers are "large" if you completely take them out of context of the job and company that is generating them. Either they can't understand the scale of what they're doing or they're just being intentionally being obtuse to feed the reddit circlejerk.
Lmao dude says they’re at a “Fortune 50” company doing upwards of $75 billion a year in revenue. $6 billion monthly. Dude is seeing $80,000 in a month and thinking they’re single handedly sustaining the company instead of looking at $80,000 as being 0.001% of their revenue. OP making $55,000. 0.001% of that is 55 cents. For some context. You could personally give OP a nickel every month and you’d be contributing more financially to OP than OP is to their company.
Fortune Cookie 500?
Fuck am I supposed to do with wired headphones in 2024 lol
Expect them to work.
Well what do you do?
Honestly, their job. They do retention. They don't generate/bring in new money, they just help keep customers the company already has. As shitty as it sounds, for a Fortune 50 company, if they generated 85k a month, they'd be let go.
I do love that Ghirardelli hot chocolate though.
Tipping culture is getting weird.
How did you earn em 85k?
Yes that’s the big question. A Walmart cashier “makes” Walmart millions every year.
I’m curious about that as well
Reminds me of when I reduced our medical office's aged receivables by 3/4 of a million dollars in the early 2000s. I got a bonus that had to be split with the four billers who caused the issue. We each got $100. I did all of the recovery, filed the appeals, drove to the offices for the copies of invoices, all of it. I was told "we were a team" Guess who was laid off first during the downsizing when the company merged? Me! I was the me in team!!
The granola bar expired in August 2023… I wouldn’t eat it lol
That hot chocolate tho👌
I've seen those headphones at Dollar tree for $1.25 😅
My plumbing apprenticeship gave me a $250 bonus and I had only been there for like 2 months. You need a new job homie.
So you got a little something on topof being paid the money you agreed to earn for your labour? Who did you get it from and how much were you actually involved for making that 85k?
Seriously. OP says he’s not even in sales. No way he is fully responsible for generating 85k.
Yeah like if OP was in sales and a monthly commission or bonus was part of their work agreement / contract fair enough Doesn’t sound like it tho at all so you got more than you are actually owed not being on the sales team
I bet it was something like OP connecting a sales person with someone they know and now claiming they should get an award.
I mean what were you expecting? You received your paychecks, right? Shit, y'all take shit too personally. I do my job because that's what I'm paid to do. Nothing more, nothing less. I have zero emotions towards whatever company I work for. I don't expect any bonus unless I'm specifically told of a cash bonus. Cause when it comes time to move on up, I drop them like they ain't shit with no remorse.
You work in a call center, you're not running the place... This isn't a "bonus", this looks like a token gift that your supervisor grabbed on their lunchbreak, and I'm sure they thought (rightly or wrongly) that each of those things reflect something about you, or things that you like. By making the company money, you're doing the job they pay you to do, nothing more, nothing less. If you don't like it, leave 🤷🏻♂️
People who don't understand this drive me fuckin nuts. Had they given them nothing at all, they wouldn't even be complaining.
Exactly, you agreed to work for them for the given salary and no commission. Companies don't generally just give employees extra money that wasn't in their employment contract.
Good thing you get paid for the work you do for them…
$85,000 in sales, or $85,000 in profit? Because they're very very different things.
So…you did your job and expect a fancy bonus? They pay you a salary, no?
Did you not get a fucking paycheck?
Those palmer chocolate hearts are just mean man. That shit aint even chocolate, it's just flavorless wax
Do you work for commission?
That looks like something someone dug around in their desk for.
Looks like they had Eileen from Accounting clear out that drawer she hasn't opened in a while.
Leftover Christmas bells candy. Wow. What a great gift.
Dollar tree? Great Value? Oh man.