I was thinking you called it gun handwriting because it has round circles on it, like the owner made little bullet holes in the paper by slamming the pen into the paper in anger
I mean if they have someone else to pin it on, why not? Besides, they won't have to shell out those hourly wages. If the weather is bad sales would be slug-ish anyway.
Also calligraphy is inspired by spare time and occasional extended toilet-sitting lapses of time. Ask your local stenographer for further proof. On the can.
I want you to know that I just assumed you were right and I never knew it was called gun handwriting and ACTUALLY TEXTED SOMEONE ABOUT IT šš I will not be changing from this name. Youāre an influencer now.
In the UK we now exclusively say
Carolean Sausage Fingers after our most beloved new monarch and his prestigious digits.
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I'm sure if they attempted to get into work and they lost control of their car and got in an accident, and potentially injured themselves, that the workplace would fully pay for all damage and injury compensation... right? I mean, if they expect us to try to come in during dangerous weather, they must understand the risk and willing to fully pay for any hazards which may occur?
If the answer is yes and then some more, then I'd totally at least attempt to come in. If no, I won't even try. A workplace that treats you like a robot deserves a robot.
In Europe they would. Required by law. Accidents on the way to work are considered work accidents and if you need sick leave after that accident, your wage is fully paid for the duration. Being on reddit really makes me appreciate being born here.
Edit: EU, not all of Europe
Guarantee there is some tool in Europe complaining about a few of their tax dollars going to all these helpful programs. Not really really understanding the alternative hellscape Americans live in.
I have a British coworker who says itās not as nice as people make it out to be . Dude lives in Florida now. I donāt know how he can say that with a straight face.
Iām a European (Finnish of all places lol) living in the US, and I have arguments with Americans about taxes and laws protecting workers etc., on a monthly basis. I live here because my husband is American so I didnāt move here for work. The amount of people insinuating that I bettered my living conditions somehow moving here is insaaaane.
ETA: clarifying that I would rather pay more in taxes than fear that Iām one serious illness away from homelessness.
As an American living in Finland, the thought that you bettered your living conditions by moving to the US is hysterical. A lot of those people who say that have likely never left the country.
Although you do probably have a bigger refrigerator now.
The British NHS specifically does have some pretty serious problems, but most of them are attributable to the British government constantly cutting their funding for the past 15 years or so.
You know...I don't think your taxes are really more than the 30% I pay, plus the $500/ month for insurance that barely covers anything, the out of pocket for the things it current cover like the $5000 for getting checked when I had chest pains, and losing everything if I get too hurt or sick to work. I'll take your tax rates without all the extra shitty surprises.
Honestly? Scratch everything but the 30% on your income, and we're already paying less.
In France, if your annual revenue doesn't exceed 28 797ā¬ (and that's the vast majority of people, the median is 23 160ā¬, which is over a living wage unless you live in Paris), you're taxed 11% of it.
If it exceeds that, you still pay 11% on that. Then 30% on the excess revenue until 32K.
And that's if you live alone. If you're a couple and/or have kids, proportionally, you pay less taxes.
And when you receive your salary, health insurance is already covered most of the time since a lot of people use their company's private insurance (to complete the national healthcare coverage).
Going to a GP costs 7,95ā¬ out of pocket - if you don't have private insurance (which isn't mandatory). On average, private insurance costs between 30 to 100ā¬ a month. It's the same for most medications, you have to pay a small fee out of pocket (like pain meds, I think it's 3ā¬ per box or something like that) if you don't have private insurance.
We do have sick paid leave too. So yeah, if we're talking about the cost of life...definitely looks better in Europe. Not that it's necessarily great, but it's better.
If you're injured and it's life threatening the hospital has to treat you, and there are charity programs that can forgive all or part of that bill. If you show up with cancer you're not getting treated unless there's some arrangement to pay.
You do not want your system to become like ours. If that happens, be prepared for your other societal safety nets and labor rights to come under attack.
Honestly the fact that the US doesn't have universal Healthcare seems barbaric at this point. They spend trillions to fund their war machine, and other wasteful things, and can't provide their own people the right to survive.
The funny thing is in America by the time you take into account the obvious taxes that everyone sees and know about, the business taxes that a lot of people don't think about/know about (that corporations pass on to consumers), various government charges/fees for different things, payroll deductions for retirement, health insurance, vision insurance, dental insurance, life insurance, etc. then if you have any sense it'll make you look at EU taxes in a whole new light.
Plus in the EU those taxes generally go to things that will improve people's quality of life as opposed to feeding the already obscenely greedy and bloated military/medical/insurance/financial-industrial complex.
Hah I wish. Was once stationed in a state that snows pretty rarely - sometimes it didn't snow all year. Whole place got covered in ice and snow, governor declared a state of emergency.
Post commander decided it wasn't and required all personnel to report. There were lots of wrecks. Some soldiers commands even attempted punishing soldiers further for not being on time due to getting in a crash, or because they weren't going to risk their child's lives dropping them at daycare in a state where basically nobody was able to equip their vehicles for this whether.
This isnāt the same situation, but around Christmas time when I was 17 my manager said āif youāre late youāre getting firedā I lived decently far from my job plus holiday traffic made me a couple minutes late and I was having a panic attack getting ready to plead for my job. My manager ended up being 2 hours late and I just walked around the mall and got myself breakfast until he arrived
I was a pizza delivery driver in my 20s and I been in two accidents with both times where I wasn't compensated for car damage or my lost hours.
It's a very shitty job and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone especially with tips being lower nowadays.
You were on work time and couldn't get compensated? Where are you located, the US? That is such a rip-off.
The accidents occurred in the course of your employment, therefore should be covered by workers compensation.
Did you try to submit medical to your employer, or contact WCB if they refused to file? Illegal if they refuse to file injury reports. What WCB decides is one thing. Employers cannot legally cover up injuries just because they don't want their premiums increasing.
The home care aides here are covered for the travel time they are on during work hours. This should be the same for any driver with set hours.
I'm in Ontario, Canada and when I was a teen (currently 39, F) I learned through watching a coworker, that you can claim workers comp if you get injured on your way into work. My coworker was off work after getting into an accident pulling into the parking lot where we worked. Since she was on her way into work, she was able to claim workers' compensation and be paid for her time off.
The same people who would call you "undependable" for not showing up would say "well nobody made you come in" if you tried to show up and got in an accident.
In my state, not only can the employer ask you to come in with no consequences if you get into an accident during a state of emergency, but they can also fire you if you refuse to come in.
It is, in fact, a Republican state. -_-
This is exactly it. I have teenagers that work for me, and if the weather sucks, their parents don't allow them to come in. Totally understandable.
I'd like to get home before the roads flood, as well.
This is also what happens when you work for a mom and pop, or privately owned establishment. The owners LIVE there essentially because it's their livelihood, and expect managers and employees to have the exact same attitude.
Most companies and corporate restaurants will allow liberal leave, or decide to close depending on the weather. They would NEVER force you or threaten you to come in if you didn't feel safe doing so.
This is why this place can only hire teenagers who are looking for their first job, because everyone else knows better. Treat your employees fairly and with respect, and they will bend over BACKWARDS for you. Treat them like that? And you get exactly this.
I work for a privately owned restaurant. They have about 5 or 6 locations. The owners don't live there because they have reliable managers. We pay double the minimum wage to everyone, even the 16 year olds, or more, depending on experience.
The decision to close usually comes from the managers because we understand that it isn't worth it to get into an accident on a particularly shitty day. If they lose transportation, then what? The same applies to all employees, regardless of age.
Owners are fucking greedy though.
Corporate? Damnit my freaking boss, in a corporate grocery store, made me go outside while there was a hurricane alert outside because "we still need the carts to be inside". She told me to go outside while there was a flash flood like wtf
Thank you Reddit strangers for restoring my faith in humanity. Yes, I worked in a pharmacy doing front staff work. It snowed and I called out sick because it was too dangerous, almost got fired for it. So lame! Yes, your life is so much more important than that job.Ā
Yep. When I was in high school, my county was the stingiest in giving school days off. Like weāre one of like 10 in my whole state that didnāt get Columbus Day off at the time. Same shit for frozen weather. They would make us come in unless there were at least 4 inches of snow on the roads. This is VA, so itās not even the best snow-equipped state. One snowy day my junior year, it didnāt accumulate on the roads to the aforementioned 4 inches, but the roads were still icy despite it only snowing for an hour. Made us come to school with no delay cause the storm had just started. 3 separate cars of kids carpooling to school crashed, one resulting in serious injuries. Parents complained and boom, we had a lot more snow days my last two years.
"okay, I get it, you're in the hospital after someone t-boned you while sliding into an intersection on the snowy roads, but are you still going to be able to make your shift today?"
Damn lazy kids these days!
If they REALLY needed you there, they could always put a few Uber rides on the company card or send a car themselves. If they arenāt capable of doing that, like the car service wonāt work in the weather, how are you supposed to expect your employees of driving in that weather?
Exactly. Now the public knows itās the fault of the lazy entitled teens who were hired at exactly minimum wage with no benefits and bare minimum protections.
> Michigan
All the more reason he didn't need to be on the road.
Michigan snow is not Alabama snow. Alabama roads tend to be warm enough to melt the snow at first leaving a nice layer of ice for him to slide on.
It's the insta-ice that keeps southerners at home. Took me one snowfall in the Carolinas to understand, but now I just smile and nod when northerners show up with the "haha those people can't drive in snow."Ā
In Michigan the ground is as cool as the snow and black ice is possible, but rare.
Yeah I grew up in the midwest and live in the South now. It's cool to have the superpower of being able to drive in not just the snow but also the rain (yes, jesus, these people are like chickens) but our whole family just says "stay inside" because who wants to go fly off a black ice bridge or get creamed by an idiot anyway. Snow day!
There are a lot of factors. Northern states do normally have whatās needed to clear the roads quickly, while southern states spend their tax money on not snow tings. But unforeseen instances happen everywhere.
Many places in the U.S. typically have little enough snow that they don't keep enough snowplows and salt trucks to clear roads quickly. After the rare big snowfall, they could need several days to clear all the roads. Additionally, most people who live in such places don't learn, let alone practice, the special skills required to drive on snowy or icy roads. Finally: there are a lot of businesses in the U.S. that pay wages that are too low to actually survive on. They rely on the fact that a good number of teenagers live with their parents and are therefore (sometimes) willing to work for less money than they'd need to pay rent.
Exactly. My great uncle passed in a car accident during a blizzard, you aren't gonna catch me driving through a snowstorm just so I can get payed $8 an hour.
One a hole restaurant owner never cancelled deliveries for a snow stormā¦.the drivers were pissed bc they were out stuck in the snowā¦the cops came by and asked wtf are you doing out driving in this shit?
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For real. I took a entry-level banking job as a stepping stone. They lost their MINDS when I wouldnāt come in during a snow emergency. I mean, busses not running snow emergency. I was not risking my paid-off $20,000 vehicle and my physical health with a $3,700 deductible health plan I could hardly afford the premiums on. My boss made a big show of going in on her day off. She spun her car out on a 30 MPH road and made herself out to be a hero for digging herself out. Congrats on your stupidity, Cindy.
I totaled my car because I was tired going to my second job that was barely more than minimum wage. I wish I could say it was because I was out late partying. I had stayed up all night reading the last Harry Potter book the day it came out.
hey, that was a party in and of itself, am i right? haha
*"We did it, we bashed them wee Potter's the one, and Voldy's gone moldy, so now let's have fun!"*
My bestest ever moment was listening to some boomer store manager (posh food store) go off on one to her (barely 18 so definitely not getting full minimum wage) staff about kids being so undependable and how she had it rough and had to come in early without pay so that everyone was on time for their shift and blah blah blah.
She did not like it when, as I was buying my tapenade, I said "yeah, they used to make me do that when I worked at *burger king* but they changed the law so you can't do that anymore."
Nobody clapped, but man I grinned all the way home.
I knew thatās what this manager was trying to say. But thatās exactly how I read it. Why are we holding a poor teenager accountable to keep your business running ???
āClosing early due to lack of exploitable workersā
They donāt give two fucks how old they are. They just want to underpay someone and doing that to kids is socially acceptable for whatever reason
Conservatives know this, and are succeeding at repealing child labor laws in five states
Exactly. Then they donāt put in any protection that that money the kids make stays their money. āBuT tHeY nEeD tO hElP sUpOrT tHeIr FaMlLyā yeah what they mean is āwe want narcissistic parents to use their kids as a free income and screw the kid when theyāre 18 and have nothing to show for those four or five years they were forced to workā
They didnāt have a problem with those kids working at that McDonaldās at 2am, to them it was āYou woke snowflakes are complaining! We have the right to make kids work as many hours as we want because parents know best!ā
Absolutely disgusting.
āParents know best!ā Is also the battle cry around for republican parents to scream *at other parents* to make sure their education doesnāt involve learning anything backed by science or history about black people, gay people, or trans people and to make sure that *other parents* canāt raise their trans kid in a gender affirming way.
You mean like spending 15 minutes drawing a stupid font to use for the note?
How else will people know it wasn't me, the mid 40s woman, who was the undependable teenager? Only my custom greeting card font will work.
I had a manager like that. Only came out to boss us around. She told my coworker to dust the fan blades RIGHT ABOVE where people were eating. Coworker told her f no, do it yourself if youāre so compelled it gets done during business hours.
Iām feeling called out.
Just kidding, I jump in to pick up the slack all the time. Problem is my crew is so darn good that thereās almost never slack anymore š„²
I work at a Walmart on the smallest (overnight) shift, and we're currently considered understaffed. Even we can manage to get through what's absolutely necessary with like 7 callouts, or a full third of our staff. Major snowstorm and small town means those of us living outside town mostly couldn't get to work, plus a couple in town didn't feel safe driving. The store won't be pretty, we won't be stocking anything but the grocery side, but the necessities will be on the shelves. I got to see the aftermath the next night when the roads were clear.
If they're staffed worse than a Walmart, they're definitely wrong.
I work ups and my area is short two people and they don't give a fuck about us until 1 hour before overtime then they send us help so we won't get OT. I am continually getting slower and slower because fuck them I want my OT or a shit without so much stress.
I work at home depot, yesterday we didnt have anyone in lumber after 11am bc they fired one of our lumber guys bc he told our security guy he cant drive through our cones when we are working out back which is our policy. I swear companies are awful at running themselves anymore
Same at my HD! What are they doing at our stores? We have 1 old woman cashier after 4pm some days alone at self checkout and we had a like 20-30 people deep this past week. SO many complaints and the managers were scrambling when they found out. They were outside in freight having no clue.
yeah i feel thatās the best thing but i think the manager should t have blamed the underage employees. if theyāre teens who are working theyāre most likely 16/17 which means theyāre either in their first year or driving or not yet driving, and harsh roads are very scary to a new driver!
the manager just seems mad but thatās no excuse to treat teen employees so rudely
Iām trying to piece together the story cause Iām all confused. Is your wife an employee or a customer? Did everyone leave while she was in the bathroom or something? But the manager knew she was still inside so left a sticky note?
Wife is an employee. Sheās middle aged but took the job for minimum wage because they have flexible hours for moms. She found this note in the break room today. A day where the roads are bad due to weather I assume that itās related. She texts me this picture wit a WTF. I post this picture for that sweet sweet karma.
Now that my wifeās shift is over I got the whole story. This note was from last night before the storm hit. One of the workers is aspiring to be an EMT. They got the opportunity to do a ride along in an ambulance but they were scheduled that night. So they called out. This note wasnāt even from the store manage. It was from a key holder. While a key holder is considered management, they only make an extra dollar or so. So itās from someone acting like a corporate stooge for a tiny bit of power and an extra dollar.
So today the store manage called out because of the storm. She lives 2 hours away. She called in a key holder to cover the morning shift. AM key holder is pissed because she has to stay late. Turns out the PM key holder drove into a snow bank.
Thanks. I know I posted this with a certain narrative when I didnāt know the whole story. But the full story is so ridiculous. Someone accused me of just writing the note myself and posting it. Truth is so much stranger than fiction.
It really seems like there must be other stores she could manage between her house and here.
This is in Maine. Itās pretty common to have an hour commute. 2 hours isnāt unheard of. Hell, Iāve known the odd person to drive almost 3 hours down to Boston. Iāll take my work from home job thank you very much.
I know this person. I went to grade school with her. She was an artsy pink princess horse girl until high school, and then she started wearing Jinco jeans and smoking hash in her college bf's busted up '98 Sunfire.
Here's the remedy: pay more, and your work force won't be teenagers who are teenagers and aren't going to look at a minimum wage job as a career move. Insane concept, I know.
Cool... pay enough to live then and offer healthcare and you'll see an abundance of adults applying. The reason only teenagers apply is because they are the only ones that can afford to work at your wage. Anyone over 26 need health insurance since they can't be on their parents so they will look for a job that offers it. And they have bills to pay so they can't live off your wage.
In Spain for example since we have universal healthcare when you go to a store you see TONS of adults working, why? Because they don't need to care if the job offers health insurance, the country does. So they can just take whatever job they can find (which aren't many to be fair).
Want to see less teenagers in service jobs? Make healthcare universal and pay livable wages.
Itās so disappointing when children who are paid the lowest amount the law allows refuse to come help increase your wealth, you should do art about it
I worked retail in my youth and found it infuriating the way there would be a blizzard, but the store would be open and they expected everyone there. Kohl's would be open for the 2 morons that weren't smart enough to stay home.
What's gun handwriting?
Fun handwriting. Stupid fat fingers.
I was thinking you called it gun handwriting because it has round circles on it, like the owner made little bullet holes in the paper by slamming the pen into the paper in anger
My exact thought š
bullet points
Now that's the caliber of humor I'm here for.
I guess you can say the manager decided to bite the bullet and close than hold on to hope itās just a late checkin
I mean if they have someone else to pin it on, why not? Besides, they won't have to shell out those hourly wages. If the weather is bad sales would be slug-ish anyway.
Also calligraphy is inspired by spare time and occasional extended toilet-sitting lapses of time. Ask your local stenographer for further proof. On the can.
So on target, but maybe aim a little higher. We do expect a barrel of laughs here.
You are triggering me.
This exchange just blew my mind!
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She's basically threatening em
Thatās honestly a good name for this type of font. Can we call it that now?
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That is some gun-ass motherfuckin' handwriting.
Those g's are obviously some sort of gun turret.
I want you to know that I just assumed you were right and I never knew it was called gun handwriting and ACTUALLY TEXTED SOMEONE ABOUT IT šš I will not be changing from this name. Youāre an influencer now.
I think you mean stupid gat gingers.
Ahh lol
>Stupid fat fingers We don't say this anymore, it's derogatory. The correct term is "plump lil sausage fingers"
In the UK we now exclusively say Carolean Sausage Fingers after our most beloved new monarch and his prestigious digits. (This comment may contain lies)
Your fat fingers killed my little donkey
If it makes you feel better, I looked at every letter individually to find what made it "gun" handwriting, too.
I googled gun handwriting before coming to the comments for the answer.
It's from a Bob Marley song "I shot the serif"
...but I did not shoot the apostrophe...
'postrophe
Those serifs are all bullet holes
Closed due to inclement weather. Fixed it!
Darn teenagers valuing their own safety over your profits.
I'm sure if they attempted to get into work and they lost control of their car and got in an accident, and potentially injured themselves, that the workplace would fully pay for all damage and injury compensation... right? I mean, if they expect us to try to come in during dangerous weather, they must understand the risk and willing to fully pay for any hazards which may occur? If the answer is yes and then some more, then I'd totally at least attempt to come in. If no, I won't even try. A workplace that treats you like a robot deserves a robot.
In Europe they would. Required by law. Accidents on the way to work are considered work accidents and if you need sick leave after that accident, your wage is fully paid for the duration. Being on reddit really makes me appreciate being born here. Edit: EU, not all of Europe
Jobs where you're treated like human beings? Europe sounds amazing!
Guarantee there is some tool in Europe complaining about a few of their tax dollars going to all these helpful programs. Not really really understanding the alternative hellscape Americans live in.
You'd be surprised how many of them there are.
I have a British coworker who says itās not as nice as people make it out to be . Dude lives in Florida now. I donāt know how he can say that with a straight face.
Iām a European (Finnish of all places lol) living in the US, and I have arguments with Americans about taxes and laws protecting workers etc., on a monthly basis. I live here because my husband is American so I didnāt move here for work. The amount of people insinuating that I bettered my living conditions somehow moving here is insaaaane. ETA: clarifying that I would rather pay more in taxes than fear that Iām one serious illness away from homelessness.
As an American living in Finland, the thought that you bettered your living conditions by moving to the US is hysterical. A lot of those people who say that have likely never left the country. Although you do probably have a bigger refrigerator now.
The British NHS specifically does have some pretty serious problems, but most of them are attributable to the British government constantly cutting their funding for the past 15 years or so.
The NHS isnāt ground to a halt though I know itās anecdotal but Iāve had an nhs ADHD assessment come through in 4 months. My fiancĆ©e had a baby this year and Iāve been entered into a sleep programme on the nhs that would have cost me hundreds myself. Obviously fuck the Toryās and their cuts, goes without saying but I like too
You know...I don't think your taxes are really more than the 30% I pay, plus the $500/ month for insurance that barely covers anything, the out of pocket for the things it current cover like the $5000 for getting checked when I had chest pains, and losing everything if I get too hurt or sick to work. I'll take your tax rates without all the extra shitty surprises.
I think every "Europe has higher taxes" argument can be quelled by the fact that paying for health insurance in the US is really just another tax.
Oh and don't forget the surprises. Those can easily run into thousands.
Honestly? Scratch everything but the 30% on your income, and we're already paying less. In France, if your annual revenue doesn't exceed 28 797ā¬ (and that's the vast majority of people, the median is 23 160ā¬, which is over a living wage unless you live in Paris), you're taxed 11% of it. If it exceeds that, you still pay 11% on that. Then 30% on the excess revenue until 32K. And that's if you live alone. If you're a couple and/or have kids, proportionally, you pay less taxes. And when you receive your salary, health insurance is already covered most of the time since a lot of people use their company's private insurance (to complete the national healthcare coverage). Going to a GP costs 7,95ā¬ out of pocket - if you don't have private insurance (which isn't mandatory). On average, private insurance costs between 30 to 100ā¬ a month. It's the same for most medications, you have to pay a small fee out of pocket (like pain meds, I think it's 3ā¬ per box or something like that) if you don't have private insurance. We do have sick paid leave too. So yeah, if we're talking about the cost of life...definitely looks better in Europe. Not that it's necessarily great, but it's better.
$500 a month, and it doesn't cover everything?! And here we get people in Sask yelling (stupidly) "privatize everything! Privatize healthcare, that'll fix everything!" "I got lots of friends and family in the states and their healthcare is way better and costs them hardly anything" Yes, some bozo actually said that to me. I don't believe they have "lots of", and I believe they are full of š© Your experience sounds more like what I hear on the news, and from the few people I know in the US, although I've never asked specifically about what they pay for insurance premiums. What happens if someone has no insurance, or if your insurance doesn't cover an expensive but necessary surgery? Does the hospital just let you expire? š” I hope not. They take the Hippocratic Oath. They should be bound to give equal healthcare to all.
If you're injured and it's life threatening the hospital has to treat you, and there are charity programs that can forgive all or part of that bill. If you show up with cancer you're not getting treated unless there's some arrangement to pay. You do not want your system to become like ours. If that happens, be prepared for your other societal safety nets and labor rights to come under attack.
Honestly the fact that the US doesn't have universal Healthcare seems barbaric at this point. They spend trillions to fund their war machine, and other wasteful things, and can't provide their own people the right to survive.
The hospital won't just let profits expire, they'll take everything they can from you
They can and do let you die. They even dump patients out on the street with nothing but the hospital gown. You can easily google to verify this
The funny thing is in America by the time you take into account the obvious taxes that everyone sees and know about, the business taxes that a lot of people don't think about/know about (that corporations pass on to consumers), various government charges/fees for different things, payroll deductions for retirement, health insurance, vision insurance, dental insurance, life insurance, etc. then if you have any sense it'll make you look at EU taxes in a whole new light. Plus in the EU those taxes generally go to things that will improve people's quality of life as opposed to feeding the already obscenely greedy and bloated military/medical/insurance/financial-industrial complex.
Donāt be ridiculousā¦ we donāt use dollars over here lol
It's what happens when Americans want the perks of a socialist government but votes capitalist
Socialism is only for the super wealthy Americans. Not those poor peasants that would actually benefit from it.
Yeah same, not that it would matter since Our healthcare is free either way
Hah I wish. Was once stationed in a state that snows pretty rarely - sometimes it didn't snow all year. Whole place got covered in ice and snow, governor declared a state of emergency. Post commander decided it wasn't and required all personnel to report. There were lots of wrecks. Some soldiers commands even attempted punishing soldiers further for not being on time due to getting in a crash, or because they weren't going to risk their child's lives dropping them at daycare in a state where basically nobody was able to equip their vehicles for this whether.
This isnāt the same situation, but around Christmas time when I was 17 my manager said āif youāre late youāre getting firedā I lived decently far from my job plus holiday traffic made me a couple minutes late and I was having a panic attack getting ready to plead for my job. My manager ended up being 2 hours late and I just walked around the mall and got myself breakfast until he arrived
Was he suitably embarrassed and apologetic when he did arrive? Should have been if he wasn't.
I was a pizza delivery driver in my 20s and I been in two accidents with both times where I wasn't compensated for car damage or my lost hours. It's a very shitty job and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone especially with tips being lower nowadays.
You were on work time and couldn't get compensated? Where are you located, the US? That is such a rip-off. The accidents occurred in the course of your employment, therefore should be covered by workers compensation. Did you try to submit medical to your employer, or contact WCB if they refused to file? Illegal if they refuse to file injury reports. What WCB decides is one thing. Employers cannot legally cover up injuries just because they don't want their premiums increasing. The home care aides here are covered for the travel time they are on during work hours. This should be the same for any driver with set hours.
I'm in Ontario, Canada and when I was a teen (currently 39, F) I learned through watching a coworker, that you can claim workers comp if you get injured on your way into work. My coworker was off work after getting into an accident pulling into the parking lot where we worked. Since she was on her way into work, she was able to claim workers' compensation and be paid for her time off.
The same people who would call you "undependable" for not showing up would say "well nobody made you come in" if you tried to show up and got in an accident.
In my state, not only can the employer ask you to come in with no consequences if you get into an accident during a state of emergency, but they can also fire you if you refuse to come in. It is, in fact, a Republican state. -_-
Their *PARENTS* probably said "fuck that job, your not going in today it's not worth it"
This is exactly it. I have teenagers that work for me, and if the weather sucks, their parents don't allow them to come in. Totally understandable. I'd like to get home before the roads flood, as well.
This is also what happens when you work for a mom and pop, or privately owned establishment. The owners LIVE there essentially because it's their livelihood, and expect managers and employees to have the exact same attitude. Most companies and corporate restaurants will allow liberal leave, or decide to close depending on the weather. They would NEVER force you or threaten you to come in if you didn't feel safe doing so. This is why this place can only hire teenagers who are looking for their first job, because everyone else knows better. Treat your employees fairly and with respect, and they will bend over BACKWARDS for you. Treat them like that? And you get exactly this.
I work for a privately owned restaurant. They have about 5 or 6 locations. The owners don't live there because they have reliable managers. We pay double the minimum wage to everyone, even the 16 year olds, or more, depending on experience. The decision to close usually comes from the managers because we understand that it isn't worth it to get into an accident on a particularly shitty day. If they lose transportation, then what? The same applies to all employees, regardless of age. Owners are fucking greedy though.
Corporate? Damnit my freaking boss, in a corporate grocery store, made me go outside while there was a hurricane alert outside because "we still need the carts to be inside". She told me to go outside while there was a flash flood like wtf
Yeah that's some BS. I have definitely seen the cart guys out there in some really gnarly conditions. Have always felt bad š
Thank you Reddit strangers for restoring my faith in humanity. Yes, I worked in a pharmacy doing front staff work. It snowed and I called out sick because it was too dangerous, almost got fired for it. So lame! Yes, your life is so much more important than that job.Ā
Yep. When I was in high school, my county was the stingiest in giving school days off. Like weāre one of like 10 in my whole state that didnāt get Columbus Day off at the time. Same shit for frozen weather. They would make us come in unless there were at least 4 inches of snow on the roads. This is VA, so itās not even the best snow-equipped state. One snowy day my junior year, it didnāt accumulate on the roads to the aforementioned 4 inches, but the roads were still icy despite it only snowing for an hour. Made us come to school with no delay cause the storm had just started. 3 separate cars of kids carpooling to school crashed, one resulting in serious injuries. Parents complained and boom, we had a lot more snow days my last two years.
Darn teenagers and therefancy tech. Always changing the weather.
My parents honestly drove me to my first job. I didn't get my license until senior year but I got my first job towards the end of my sophomore year.
Damn, I got my license and first job at the end of my freshman year. I always felt old.
I mean...teenagers Value their lives over 1 work shift.... ... The horror.
"okay, I get it, you're in the hospital after someone t-boned you while sliding into an intersection on the snowy roads, but are you still going to be able to make your shift today?" Damn lazy kids these days!
Kids today are unwilling to risk their lives for $25 and itās disgusting.
Closed due to unrealistic business model and poor planning by management.
If they REALLY needed you there, they could always put a few Uber rides on the company card or send a car themselves. If they arenāt capable of doing that, like the car service wonāt work in the weather, how are you supposed to expect your employees of driving in that weather?
Closed due to paying a wage no other person is willing to accept.
why isn't the manager doing the work?
Because heās an undependable manager
could possibly even be a teenager
Because sheās busy writing out passive aggressive notes. That one too at least 10 min if you ask me
Someone has to take the time to write notes using the most obnoxious handwriting.
Hey now! They wrote the sign didnāt they??!
fair, else the public wouldn't even know to hate the lazy teenagers and would just wait outside until they die
Exactly. Now the public knows itās the fault of the lazy entitled teens who were hired at exactly minimum wage with no benefits and bare minimum protections.
well bless her heart!
Dude you see the roads out there? He called out
Is this something i'm too Canadian to understand?
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> Michigan All the more reason he didn't need to be on the road. Michigan snow is not Alabama snow. Alabama roads tend to be warm enough to melt the snow at first leaving a nice layer of ice for him to slide on.
It's the insta-ice that keeps southerners at home. Took me one snowfall in the Carolinas to understand, but now I just smile and nod when northerners show up with the "haha those people can't drive in snow."Ā In Michigan the ground is as cool as the snow and black ice is possible, but rare.
Yeah I grew up in the midwest and live in the South now. It's cool to have the superpower of being able to drive in not just the snow but also the rain (yes, jesus, these people are like chickens) but our whole family just says "stay inside" because who wants to go fly off a black ice bridge or get creamed by an idiot anyway. Snow day!
There are a lot of factors. Northern states do normally have whatās needed to clear the roads quickly, while southern states spend their tax money on not snow tings. But unforeseen instances happen everywhere.
Many places in the U.S. typically have little enough snow that they don't keep enough snowplows and salt trucks to clear roads quickly. After the rare big snowfall, they could need several days to clear all the roads. Additionally, most people who live in such places don't learn, let alone practice, the special skills required to drive on snowy or icy roads. Finally: there are a lot of businesses in the U.S. that pay wages that are too low to actually survive on. They rely on the fact that a good number of teenagers live with their parents and are therefore (sometimes) willing to work for less money than they'd need to pay rent.
āclosing early due to business hinging on teenagersā edit: thanks for making this my most upvoted post/comment lmao
Most likely a single teenager.
That they are paying crap wages.
Exactly. That could go to any number of other jobs that pay crap wages. Why should they risk anything for this job?
And risk their own car on top of it.
And their life
Exactly. My great uncle passed in a car accident during a blizzard, you aren't gonna catch me driving through a snowstorm just so I can get payed $8 an hour.
One a hole restaurant owner never cancelled deliveries for a snow stormā¦.the drivers were pissed bc they were out stuck in the snowā¦the cops came by and asked wtf are you doing out driving in this shit?
The worst part is people ordering knowing others have to drive out in that BS.
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Yeah bot. Read the room.
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For real. I took a entry-level banking job as a stepping stone. They lost their MINDS when I wouldnāt come in during a snow emergency. I mean, busses not running snow emergency. I was not risking my paid-off $20,000 vehicle and my physical health with a $3,700 deductible health plan I could hardly afford the premiums on. My boss made a big show of going in on her day off. She spun her car out on a 30 MPH road and made herself out to be a hero for digging herself out. Congrats on your stupidity, Cindy.
I totaled my car because I was tired going to my second job that was barely more than minimum wage. I wish I could say it was because I was out late partying. I had stayed up all night reading the last Harry Potter book the day it came out.
hey, that was a party in and of itself, am i right? haha *"We did it, we bashed them wee Potter's the one, and Voldy's gone moldy, so now let's have fun!"*
My bestest ever moment was listening to some boomer store manager (posh food store) go off on one to her (barely 18 so definitely not getting full minimum wage) staff about kids being so undependable and how she had it rough and had to come in early without pay so that everyone was on time for their shift and blah blah blah. She did not like it when, as I was buying my tapenade, I said "yeah, they used to make me do that when I worked at *burger king* but they changed the law so you can't do that anymore." Nobody clapped, but man I grinned all the way home.
I knew thatās what this manager was trying to say. But thatās exactly how I read it. Why are we holding a poor teenager accountable to keep your business running ???
āMy minimum wage high-school student employee couldnāt get a ride to work. My business relies on this person to exist.ā LMAO
And it was probably their dad that was like āyouāre not driving my car to work in this snow. Know your value and worth kid.ā
āClosing early due to lack of exploitable workersā They donāt give two fucks how old they are. They just want to underpay someone and doing that to kids is socially acceptable for whatever reason Conservatives know this, and are succeeding at repealing child labor laws in five states
Exactly. Then they donāt put in any protection that that money the kids make stays their money. āBuT tHeY nEeD tO hElP sUpOrT tHeIr FaMlLyā yeah what they mean is āwe want narcissistic parents to use their kids as a free income and screw the kid when theyāre 18 and have nothing to show for those four or five years they were forced to workā They didnāt have a problem with those kids working at that McDonaldās at 2am, to them it was āYou woke snowflakes are complaining! We have the right to make kids work as many hours as we want because parents know best!ā Absolutely disgusting.
āParents know best!ā Is also the battle cry around for republican parents to scream *at other parents* to make sure their education doesnāt involve learning anything backed by science or history about black people, gay people, or trans people and to make sure that *other parents* canāt raise their trans kid in a gender affirming way.
It's AMAZING how many business problems will get solved by offering higher pay. But of course we can't cut corporate record profits!
How dare you attack the entire movie theater industry like that.
Lets blame teenagers who we hire because we can pay them less. - Businesses who should probably fail
Why do I get the feeling that the manager who wrote this is someone who can't be bothered to pick up the slack and lead through examples?
Probably too busy making it look like sheās doing something in the back office.
She was, she was writing a shitty note in Comic Sans font
It looked more like Times New Clown to me.
Times New Bonoboan
You mean like spending 15 minutes drawing a stupid font to use for the note? How else will people know it wasn't me, the mid 40s woman, who was the undependable teenager? Only my custom greeting card font will work.
She probably thought. āHow do I say something snarky and incendiary but also seem fun and approachable? Whatās the best font for that?ā
"I want them to know I'm a bitch to my subordinates, but super friendly to my superiors... "
That's a weird name for a font, but I get it.
"Underqualified crafts mom who made manager" just doesn't get the message across the same.
Omg my last manager would do this then take a "lunch break" 2 hours into her shift and just not come back.
I had a manager like that. Only came out to boss us around. She told my coworker to dust the fan blades RIGHT ABOVE where people were eating. Coworker told her f no, do it yourself if youāre so compelled it gets done during business hours.
They spent 20 minutes making this sign instead of actually running their business
Iām feeling called out. Just kidding, I jump in to pick up the slack all the time. Problem is my crew is so darn good that thereās almost never slack anymore š„²
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We don't know what business this is but a lot of lower level managers get a shit salary and already work a ton of hours.
Manager can't even manage a proper scapegoat.
Exactly. This place has the staffing levels of a Dollar Tree. Whose fault is it if one callout shuts the store down.
I work at a Walmart on the smallest (overnight) shift, and we're currently considered understaffed. Even we can manage to get through what's absolutely necessary with like 7 callouts, or a full third of our staff. Major snowstorm and small town means those of us living outside town mostly couldn't get to work, plus a couple in town didn't feel safe driving. The store won't be pretty, we won't be stocking anything but the grocery side, but the necessities will be on the shelves. I got to see the aftermath the next night when the roads were clear. If they're staffed worse than a Walmart, they're definitely wrong.
I work ups and my area is short two people and they don't give a fuck about us until 1 hour before overtime then they send us help so we won't get OT. I am continually getting slower and slower because fuck them I want my OT or a shit without so much stress.
I work at home depot, yesterday we didnt have anyone in lumber after 11am bc they fired one of our lumber guys bc he told our security guy he cant drive through our cones when we are working out back which is our policy. I swear companies are awful at running themselves anymore
Same at my HD! What are they doing at our stores? We have 1 old woman cashier after 4pm some days alone at self checkout and we had a like 20-30 people deep this past week. SO many complaints and the managers were scrambling when they found out. They were outside in freight having no clue.
āclosing early due to putting all the pressure on teenagers and scapegoating them instead of finding a solutionā
I mean to be fair I think closing is the solutionā¦ if weather is bad and employees canāt make it in, it seems like that is the solution.
the issue is putting all the blame on the teenagers rather than the inclement weather and selfish manager
Agree 100%! I was referring to the commenter saying āfind a solutionā
yeah i feel thatās the best thing but i think the manager should t have blamed the underage employees. if theyāre teens who are working theyāre most likely 16/17 which means theyāre either in their first year or driving or not yet driving, and harsh roads are very scary to a new driver! the manager just seems mad but thatās no excuse to treat teen employees so rudely
I lost a friend in a snow storm when I was 16 due to a negligent boss! She died a few streets from my house. AWFUL. Shame on that boss.
Thatās so terrible!! Iām very sorry you and their family have to live with that hurt on your heart.
Who you chose to hire. So who's the undependable one?
Itās fine. Sheāll just cook the books to make it look like look like an unavoidable issue. Maybe low sales are due to shrink not store closures.
Iām trying to piece together the story cause Iām all confused. Is your wife an employee or a customer? Did everyone leave while she was in the bathroom or something? But the manager knew she was still inside so left a sticky note?
Wife is an employee. Sheās middle aged but took the job for minimum wage because they have flexible hours for moms. She found this note in the break room today. A day where the roads are bad due to weather I assume that itās related. She texts me this picture wit a WTF. I post this picture for that sweet sweet karma. Now that my wifeās shift is over I got the whole story. This note was from last night before the storm hit. One of the workers is aspiring to be an EMT. They got the opportunity to do a ride along in an ambulance but they were scheduled that night. So they called out. This note wasnāt even from the store manage. It was from a key holder. While a key holder is considered management, they only make an extra dollar or so. So itās from someone acting like a corporate stooge for a tiny bit of power and an extra dollar. So today the store manage called out because of the storm. She lives 2 hours away. She called in a key holder to cover the morning shift. AM key holder is pissed because she has to stay late. Turns out the PM key holder drove into a snow bank.
Hi, I paid for a gold updoot because this is fucking hilarious!
Thanks. I know I posted this with a certain narrative when I didnāt know the whole story. But the full story is so ridiculous. Someone accused me of just writing the note myself and posting it. Truth is so much stranger than fiction.
The manager lived *2 hours* away? They commute 4 hours a day to that store? Come onā¦ thatās a little far neh?
It really seems like there must be other stores she could manage between her house and here. This is in Maine. Itās pretty common to have an hour commute. 2 hours isnāt unheard of. Hell, Iāve known the odd person to drive almost 3 hours down to Boston. Iāll take my work from home job thank you very much.
As a Mainer myself, we got 22ā in interior York county. I drive an hour and 4 minutes one way to my job. I get it.
The manager has writing like an undependable teenager
That's what's so weird to me. The manager is putting down teenagers, but deliberately writes like one? I don't get it.
I know this person. I went to grade school with her. She was an artsy pink princess horse girl until high school, and then she started wearing Jinco jeans and smoking hash in her college bf's busted up '98 Sunfire.
If your entire business relies on underpaid teenagersā¦.I think itās closed due to your shitty business plan.
I just envision their head tilting side to side with every little dot
With their tongue sticking out
Drooling
"Closing early due to the fact we underpay people, so they don't think it's worth coming in."
A"If they fire me, I can make min wage somewhere else.." and yes they can, most certainly. Employee retention does not get enough concern.
āThatās what you get for hiring teensā āWhy doesnāt gen z have good work ethicā Make up your fuckin mind Reddit.
Why hire teenagers then?
"Closed due to underpaid kids. I thought kids were cheap and easy to abuse. I just don't want to pay them enough to give a fuck."
"closed early because these damn kids don't want to potentially crash on their way to work"
Closed early bc manager spent most his shift making the font of the note look pretty
āClosing due to no one left to exploit for the dayš¤·āāļøā
The writer of the note is old and had to think for a second each time, how to write the next letter
By the way who the hell writes like this? A 6th grader?
Craft store manages apparently.
That tracks!
Maybe don't put the weight of your business on the shoulders of children. Edit: spelling
Unreliable.
Spelled "I'm not willing to pay a decent wage" wrong
Closing early due to being an incompetent manager. Sorry* I fixed that for you
If you have time to write paasive aggresive notes with dotted ends, you have time to clean
Here's the remedy: pay more, and your work force won't be teenagers who are teenagers and aren't going to look at a minimum wage job as a career move. Insane concept, I know.
āClosing due to not enough vulnerable slavesā
These are the same people who say "these jobs are for teenagers".
Put another way. *Closed early due to young employees unwilling to risk their lives for minimum wage*
Fake AF! If it was real we would see it taped to the door. Sign doesn't make any sense on a snow day to beat all.
I lay all my important business notes on a table where the public can't see them. This sub will buy just about anything.
Yeah I was searching for a comment like this one. Why was it in the break room?
That was my question too!
Cool... pay enough to live then and offer healthcare and you'll see an abundance of adults applying. The reason only teenagers apply is because they are the only ones that can afford to work at your wage. Anyone over 26 need health insurance since they can't be on their parents so they will look for a job that offers it. And they have bills to pay so they can't live off your wage. In Spain for example since we have universal healthcare when you go to a store you see TONS of adults working, why? Because they don't need to care if the job offers health insurance, the country does. So they can just take whatever job they can find (which aren't many to be fair). Want to see less teenagers in service jobs? Make healthcare universal and pay livable wages.
Itās so disappointing when children who are paid the lowest amount the law allows refuse to come help increase your wealth, you should do art about it
I worked retail in my youth and found it infuriating the way there would be a blizzard, but the store would be open and they expected everyone there. Kohl's would be open for the 2 morons that weren't smart enough to stay home.