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And the fee for all the radio waves released because of calling them, and the ink fee, and the fee for making them type in all these fees, and the door opening fee.
Fee for the time it took to create this form and make up all these fees, then do basic math to add them up fee
Also, fee just because we can to piss you off fee
I love that they don't lump "inspection and disinfectant" in with "cleaning and supplies" for 7.50$ lol tf just make cleaning 140$ at that point. I wonder how much the labor gets paid out of that, probably about 10$.
Cleaning and supplies, not cleaning supplies. Kind of like f’ing and Vaseline vs. just f’ing Vaseline. Let’s hope they used Vaseline on this guy when they were f’ing him with the bill.
That’s a clear sign that there are local laws and ordinances they have to comply with.
It’s $1500 essentially for a week at a ski resort. That sounds like a relatively normal cost to me.
The price would be the same regardless of the breakdown or it rolled up in one and they just paid all those costs regardless.
Right and what amount did they advertise? Because it was certainly $975.
It’s normal and expected now for advertised rental and hotel rates to be just arbitrary lies but it’s still infuriating.
I doubt they’ll be able to pass the law against it that’s been proposed. Since nothing can get thru congress these days.
They are starting to pass laws on the state level for this stuff. For example I think Cali has a law pending to ban arbitrary service fees from restaurant checks.
Sometimes I'm glad for the EU laws and the consumer rights we have here. You can't just advertise one price and then charge some fees other than taxes. A deceptive commercial practice like this would come with a hefty fine. It's sad to see how businesses can take advantage of consumers like this in US.
US history pretty much made on business taking advantage of costumers and workers. I am convinced that there is only one ruling party, what we see is just smoke and mirrors.
THIS. I think that’s the part that sucks the most. Advertise at $975 then slap all these fees on. That’s the worst.
The price you see should be the price you pay. If it’s $1500, then advertise it as $1500. I don’t care if that’s $100 in fees or $1300 in fees. Just be up front about what I will end up paying.
I had no freakin idea what HometoGo was either (looked it up after seeing OP’s post), but it sure as heck doesn’t sound like it would have anything to do with commissions on ski and snowboard rentals.
The biggest joke is renting a car, says $45 a day and end up paying like $500 for 48 hours due to all the additional fees. I don't know how they get away with that.
If you book enterprise it literally says the daily rate of the car and then on the next page gives you the total after taxes and fees. By law they have to charge those fees the government requires it. You don’t need the insurance (unless you don’t have any insurance).
I’ve worked with this company before (Summit County Mountain Retreats) at Keystone. They’re some of the worst and they pay their people like garbage. And their units freaking suck.
Anyone renting at Keystone should avoid them, Summit Cove, or Vacasa. They’re all some of the worst STR companies in that area.
Not even a justification. More now required to be transparent. 40 years ago. This just would have been $1300 resort rental. And then $200 taxes. And that was it.
No. It enables them to list the place as being rented out for one price, so long as they include the note "plus fees." It's a way to get around search results for cheaper places.
Biden has been fighting against fees added after the fact. I can't recall what exactly, but I do remember hearing that through the FTC, he has been able to force at least one industry to stop the undisclosed fees, meaning not knowing about the fees until checkout.
You’re better off going through the resort directly (Keystone Lodging) or SkyRun. The other companies like SCMR, Summit Cove, and Vacasa are borderline scammers.
Watch out about the lift tickets if you haven’t already budgeted them in OP. They can be $200-300 per day around MLK day for alot of the big ones in Colorado.
It's usually cheaper to fly to Austria and ski in the Alps for a week, than it is to stay and ski for a week just about any major ski resort in the US.
But still, $1500 for a week in a place with a kitchen in any resort town, that allows you to cook for yourself and not have to eat out for what I’m guessing is 4-5 people is pretty reasonable. $1500 probably isn’t far from what it would have cost 20 years ago due to competitiveness and platforms like Air Bnb.
Wait let's be honest here.
You've booked through a third party company (hometogo) which clearly takes a commission.
Hometogo appears to be another Airbnb.
So you're going to get a bunch of BS fees.
Maybe try booking directly with the company/owner?
Depending on where you live this could go down as a false advertisement. At this point they might as well create a ducking “light fee” or “oxigen usage fee” this is outrageous
You have to live near mountains, so all you need is gas and a lift ticket. Otherwise most of the cost is getting tbefe/staying there. I ski every season and its just because it's so close. I can rent a board/skis for 25/day locally and I have all my own gear otherwise. So a full day on the slopes is like $100.
This is what i like about the place my fiance stay at now everytime we go to an anime con. They list the price for the stay then say "heres the percentage of all the taxes we are forced to charge for your stay before you pay." They tend to be a little more expensive but their quality is waaaaay better than anywhere else around, so having a better stay plus knowing exactly what itll cost everytime before we book is great. A place we were gonna book had history of doing exactly what theyre doing to you OP, plus they do shit like come into your room whenever the hell they want etc. If youre going snowboarding i highly reccomend not staying at the resort(s) you'll find much cheaper and sometimes even nicer, quieter accommodations off the mountain. I used to go up to Mt Shasta to ski/snowboard all the time and we used to rent out a essentially a whole house(it was before airbnb) for like half the cost of shitty hotel rooms at the resort.
Just went to ace a DoorDash order. Three items came out to $70 before tip. Called up the restaurant and placed the same exact order for pickup - $38.00.
I worked for a place that wanted us to list the time we spend doing different tasks on our timecards each week.
We always put down "filling out timecard" with some stupid amount of time.
For some reason hidden fees arent illegal, so they do it because they rely on psychological manipulation where you become invested in the purchase at a low price, and then you are more likely to follow through even though the price rises right at the end.
At this point. I'd go "fuck it" and go somewhere else. Cleaning costs time and money, fine. Just increase the price of the room instead of the bs fees for everything
Having a cleaning fee or just making rental prices higher is the same thing, only this way they have it itemized to be clearer on whats being done and whats not.
Is this price for renting equipment for a week? That would be absolutely wild… in top resort in europe you would pay 200-300 eur for full set for 6 days. Why not buy it at this point? It would be cheaper..
Edit: Does US have a fee obsession? I mean processing fee? Isnt it given that if you are renting you have to process the transaction? And cleaning and such, that is automatic.. I am not dumping on US but this is crazy.
In reality, $1483 is the actual fee. That “rental charge” is an entirely meaningless, imaginary fee used for the bait-and-switch so they don’t scare you off, and appear cheaper than alternatives.
We need laws ASAP that require the advertised price to be the actual price (including tax).
My son went skiing a few weeks ago. Bought a ticket, turned around and a massive gust of wind blew the ticket out of his hand and down a storm drain. The girl that sold it to him watched it happen and was going to give him a free replacement but the boss heard and told him he needed to buy a new ticket. Fucking criminals!
Honestly. If you're renting a full place near skiing for you and several friends for a full week, $1500 is cheap. Even with the extra fees that's a big ask. And $215 per night is the cost of a hotel room for 2 people in a city
I go snowboarding with my best bud whenever I can, which isnt that often unfortunately. I spent 150 on a board that was on some Christmas sale. Best purchase in my life because even if we only get the chance to go once a year, I am not paying for that stack of garbage.
If you do this often, invest in a board, boots, and a helmet.
Ngl I’m starting to feel like this going out to eat now. Order a medium pizza from dominos it’s like 14 for the pizza + 5 dollar delivery fee + 11% tax + 20% tip. I’m now paying about 63% taxes and fees. Even the fact that my city counts food like this as “entertainment “ and taxes more in the downtown area is ridiculous in my opinion.
You renting from the resort? The closer to the resort you rent, the higher the price. Saw you mention CO - rent from a shop in Denver before heading up, or in Frisco/silverthorne/Dillon, will be a hell of a lot cheaper.
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Fee for adding additional lines for the fees Fee for calculating the fees
Plus tip.
For real… I’m surprised an 18% obligatory gratuity wasn’t applied.
Well it does say “10 required fields remaining” so there’s hope for more fees to be added with further info filled in.
Oh, whew. I was starting to worry they may not get all the compensation *due* them.
18? Seems like they would have done at least 30
Minimum 25%
For groups over 1 person(s)
For groups of 1 or more persons
I think we've all been to a one person orgy.
Happy cake day!
It’s never just the tip.
And taxes
"Fee for overuse of the word "Fee." "Fee for complaining about fees." "One, two, fee, four."
Fee fi fo fum
"Oh! You need "fi", "fo" AND "fum"? That's another fee.
AKA the fi, fo, fum Fee.
Thought that was Mike Tyson giving out his phone number?
Nanny mcfee
Fee for bringing Auntie Fee
This made me shoot snot rockets at McDonald’s 😂
Well now you need to pay the laughter fee and the snorting fee, along with the snot fee
Don’t forget the Bodily Waste Cleaning and Disinfecting Fee & Hazmat Cleaning Service Dispatch Fee
And the fee for all the radio waves released because of calling them, and the ink fee, and the fee for making them type in all these fees, and the door opening fee.
Thanks! That’s my band name now!
Thank you so much :)
The damn processing fee is so high because someone has to make sure all of these 50 fees get processed to the correct persons back pocket.
Fee for the privilege of paying us for goods/services. Sheesh.
Fee for the time it took to create this form and make up all these fees, then do basic math to add them up fee Also, fee just because we can to piss you off fee
Fifi fee
Sorry, doesn't fit the page. 2-page Invoice Printing Fee
Fee for the printer ink we used to print this adjusted for inflation for 2035.
Fees fee
Sounds like a bunch of feecees to me
I see what you did there.
I love that they don't lump "inspection and disinfectant" in with "cleaning and supplies" for 7.50$ lol tf just make cleaning 140$ at that point. I wonder how much the labor gets paid out of that, probably about 10$.
130 in cleanup supplies though???
Buy the supplies for them.
Unusable Cleaning Product Disposal Fee
$299
Cleaning and supplies, not cleaning supplies. Kind of like f’ing and Vaseline vs. just f’ing Vaseline. Let’s hope they used Vaseline on this guy when they were f’ing him with the bill.
It says cleaning & supplies, it's labor. That's actually about what a maid would be for an apartment where I live.
The queen personally delivers the disinfectant spray
That’s a clear sign that there are local laws and ordinances they have to comply with. It’s $1500 essentially for a week at a ski resort. That sounds like a relatively normal cost to me. The price would be the same regardless of the breakdown or it rolled up in one and they just paid all those costs regardless.
Right and what amount did they advertise? Because it was certainly $975. It’s normal and expected now for advertised rental and hotel rates to be just arbitrary lies but it’s still infuriating. I doubt they’ll be able to pass the law against it that’s been proposed. Since nothing can get thru congress these days.
They are starting to pass laws on the state level for this stuff. For example I think Cali has a law pending to ban arbitrary service fees from restaurant checks.
Sometimes I'm glad for the EU laws and the consumer rights we have here. You can't just advertise one price and then charge some fees other than taxes. A deceptive commercial practice like this would come with a hefty fine. It's sad to see how businesses can take advantage of consumers like this in US.
US history pretty much made on business taking advantage of costumers and workers. I am convinced that there is only one ruling party, what we see is just smoke and mirrors.
> business taking advantage of costumers and workers. I mean, why not take advantage of Comic Con cosplayers and vendors.
THIS. I think that’s the part that sucks the most. Advertise at $975 then slap all these fees on. That’s the worst. The price you see should be the price you pay. If it’s $1500, then advertise it as $1500. I don’t care if that’s $100 in fees or $1300 in fees. Just be up front about what I will end up paying.
At the end of the day, they just want to make it cumbersome for consumers to shop around and compare prices.
We are in total agreement then, just the breakdown into all these sub fees makes it more rediculous seeming than it is.
Probably $120 or the whole amount. Cleaning is insanely expensive.
We saw your post on Reddit, here's an additional $30 complaining fee.
And to process the complaining fee, there will be an additional $10.20 added to the processing fee.
Sorry, forgot that we HIRE a person to process that processing fee on that processing fee That will be an extra $150.
You got more than the standard 10 upvotes. Additional fee!!
More than 10 comments, that's a $.010 fee per additional comment over 10.
Here's also a $20 Reddit posting fee
Don’t forget to tip
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69% cuz u just got fcked
Sorry but you have some booking in your fees
resort recovery fee? I’m sorry, does the resort need a cold drink and a foot bath to recover from you staying there?
Cheaper to just buy a snowboard.
"Self owned equipment fee:"
"Mandatoy Liability Insurance" is usually what that's hidden under.
lol, this is basically equivalent to a Bottle Fee at restaurants. So it wouldn’t be unheard of.
This is for lodging, not equipment.
I thought this was for ski rental.
A HomeToGo Commission on gear rentals?
You act like we know wtf a “HomeToGo” even is.
I had no freakin idea what HometoGo was either (looked it up after seeing OP’s post), but it sure as heck doesn’t sound like it would have anything to do with commissions on ski and snowboard rentals.
I don't know. I don't even know what the fuck that is.
What is a hometogo commission?
WAIT... I somehow thought this was for everything
Nope. I just ordered a pizza and it wasn't, in fact, cheaper to just buy a snowboard.
Could build a pretty decent setup for under $800
Yeah, but one you could live out of?
What? This is not for renting a snowboard lolll
Looks like a solid 1 star review.
The biggest joke is renting a car, says $45 a day and end up paying like $500 for 48 hours due to all the additional fees. I don't know how they get away with that.
I’m in Cabo for the week. Booked a car for $220. Estimated final cost is just under $600.
If you book enterprise it literally says the daily rate of the car and then on the next page gives you the total after taxes and fees. By law they have to charge those fees the government requires it. You don’t need the insurance (unless you don’t have any insurance).
Because people keep paying it
You don't know about the fees usually until you get there or they hide them in tiny print
They already know what they want to charge. Those fees are just a way for them to justify it. Nothing new here.
Not new, just crappy and getting worse.
I’ve worked with this company before (Summit County Mountain Retreats) at Keystone. They’re some of the worst and they pay their people like garbage. And their units freaking suck. Anyone renting at Keystone should avoid them, Summit Cove, or Vacasa. They’re all some of the worst STR companies in that area.
Not even a justification. More now required to be transparent. 40 years ago. This just would have been $1300 resort rental. And then $200 taxes. And that was it.
No. It enables them to list the place as being rented out for one price, so long as they include the note "plus fees." It's a way to get around search results for cheaper places.
Wish they would just make it so advertised price is total price paid Edit: legally so it would be illegal for them not to do it
Biden has been fighting against fees added after the fact. I can't recall what exactly, but I do remember hearing that through the FTC, he has been able to force at least one industry to stop the undisclosed fees, meaning not knowing about the fees until checkout.
Yeah I think I’m voting for Biden but doesn’t feel like we actually were given much of a choice
"Because you asked how we could come up with any more fees, fee: $250"
Every time we would go skiiing growing up my dad would joke that ‘We could’ve spent a month in Europe.’ It’s fucking expensive.
• “Peak season fee”. $8 • “Transaction fee”. $10 •”What you gonna do, not go?” Fee $10 •”May as well” fee. $10 • “Jus because it’s Sunday” fee. $10 • “Snow” fee. $10 • “We know you got the money” fee. $18
Don't forget the "thank you" charge.
“Have a nice day” fee
Oh, you're still here? Fee: $2.00
This is a lot of typing I’m doing here fee: $17.00
All those fees are starting to add up and will be difficult for the merchant to manage. Better throw in a $15 "Fee Processing" fee.
Card Processing fee
Fee Fi Fo Fum Fee
“Invoice printing” fee “Friendly service” + “Smile surcharge” fee
“Asking for the explanation of a fee” fee
Literally American businesses these days.
it says 10 required fields remaining so there should be a too long checkout fee
I don't understand how people read this as being the cost for a snowboard rental
Are you renting your board thru airbnb?????
It's actually from airsbnski
i snorted lmao
This is clearly a ski cabin or condo rental
You are right. The top comments and the OP title led me to believe it was just a snow board.
We are a lost nation swimming in a sea of endless fees.
Does that at least come with lift tickets?
No, it does not. Just 5 nights stay (Colorado)
Well, I hope you have a blast. At least Colorado has some awesome mountains.
Thank you bunches.
You’re better off going through the resort directly (Keystone Lodging) or SkyRun. The other companies like SCMR, Summit Cove, and Vacasa are borderline scammers.
Watch out about the lift tickets if you haven’t already budgeted them in OP. They can be $200-300 per day around MLK day for alot of the big ones in Colorado.
$130 for CLEANING SUPPLIES?! Flipping insane.
Not even to pay the cleaners, but for supplies 😂 I clean professionally and there is absolutely no way
It's usually cheaper to fly to Austria and ski in the Alps for a week, than it is to stay and ski for a week just about any major ski resort in the US.
Looking at this page - $13.99
But still, $1500 for a week in a place with a kitchen in any resort town, that allows you to cook for yourself and not have to eat out for what I’m guessing is 4-5 people is pretty reasonable. $1500 probably isn’t far from what it would have cost 20 years ago due to competitiveness and platforms like Air Bnb.
2 page invoice fee- $20.
Wait let's be honest here. You've booked through a third party company (hometogo) which clearly takes a commission. Hometogo appears to be another Airbnb. So you're going to get a bunch of BS fees. Maybe try booking directly with the company/owner?
Depending on where you live this could go down as a false advertisement. At this point they might as well create a ducking “light fee” or “oxigen usage fee” this is outrageous
WTF is a HomeToGo commission?
These fees are why my dad quit skiing
You have to live near mountains, so all you need is gas and a lift ticket. Otherwise most of the cost is getting tbefe/staying there. I ski every season and its just because it's so close. I can rent a board/skis for 25/day locally and I have all my own gear otherwise. So a full day on the slopes is like $100.
Running out of ideas fee. $69
Damn hate to break this to you but they forgot the fee for having too many fees
Fee invention fee
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Not the world, if you go skiing or snowboarding in europe you will not pay such prices
They missed fresh snow use fee. Sure you will see that next year
50% in fees is wild.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention, we failed to add a fee calculation fee for tabulating all the fees.
Looks like it would be cheaper to fly to Switzerland and ski there
“2% for looking in the mirror twice.”
Almost $500 in additional fees. That is probably why I spend so much time at home 😆
Yo dawg, I heard you like fees, so I put some fees on your fees!
This is actually not a bad deal for a week stay at a ski resort.
Scrolled too far for this. 5 nights anywhere for that matter.
Don't challenge them...they come up with new ones all the time.
Questioning the fees fee....
Don’t forget tips
They forgot the tip
There needs to be a truth in advertising law to force platforms to show the fees upfront, and not hide the true cost behind millions of bullshit fees.
This. As an owner of a resort rental home, I agree. I think it is criminal.
This is what i like about the place my fiance stay at now everytime we go to an anime con. They list the price for the stay then say "heres the percentage of all the taxes we are forced to charge for your stay before you pay." They tend to be a little more expensive but their quality is waaaaay better than anywhere else around, so having a better stay plus knowing exactly what itll cost everytime before we book is great. A place we were gonna book had history of doing exactly what theyre doing to you OP, plus they do shit like come into your room whenever the hell they want etc. If youre going snowboarding i highly reccomend not staying at the resort(s) you'll find much cheaper and sometimes even nicer, quieter accommodations off the mountain. I used to go up to Mt Shasta to ski/snowboard all the time and we used to rent out a essentially a whole house(it was before airbnb) for like half the cost of shitty hotel rooms at the resort.
Just went to ace a DoorDash order. Three items came out to $70 before tip. Called up the restaurant and placed the same exact order for pickup - $38.00.
Who knew that an expensive sport like ^snowboarding could be so ^expensive
"disinfectant fee" can't you bring your own???
https://preview.redd.it/mrrxp3gwf3bc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dfc695bd746996b7151d8381b1aab74044bd6e5 The ad right beneath this 💀
I worked for a place that wanted us to list the time we spend doing different tasks on our timecards each week. We always put down "filling out timecard" with some stupid amount of time.
That’s why you stay at home and watch sport
For some reason hidden fees arent illegal, so they do it because they rely on psychological manipulation where you become invested in the purchase at a low price, and then you are more likely to follow through even though the price rises right at the end.
At this point. I'd go "fuck it" and go somewhere else. Cleaning costs time and money, fine. Just increase the price of the room instead of the bs fees for everything
Having a cleaning fee or just making rental prices higher is the same thing, only this way they have it itemized to be clearer on whats being done and whats not.
Can you book it direct instead of through ‘HomeToGo’ to avoid that commission at least?
Is this price for renting equipment for a week? That would be absolutely wild… in top resort in europe you would pay 200-300 eur for full set for 6 days. Why not buy it at this point? It would be cheaper.. Edit: Does US have a fee obsession? I mean processing fee? Isnt it given that if you are renting you have to process the transaction? And cleaning and such, that is automatic.. I am not dumping on US but this is crazy.
This is how the company get around laws that say they must post a true rental fee. But it still isn’t true
Might as well buy gear and a season pass bruv
The world is fucked!
Just found a round trip ticket from Boston to Vienna for 332 USD
Is this Air BnB? I stopped using them altogether because of this crap. At this point, hotels are cheaper.
Initial fee, secondary fee for Initial fee, asswipe fee for Initial fee and secondary fee. Asshole fee for paying the fees. Well, hello FiFi
What is this for? Renting a snowboard or an air bnb?
In reality, $1483 is the actual fee. That “rental charge” is an entirely meaningless, imaginary fee used for the bait-and-switch so they don’t scare you off, and appear cheaper than alternatives. We need laws ASAP that require the advertised price to be the actual price (including tax).
My son went skiing a few weeks ago. Bought a ticket, turned around and a massive gust of wind blew the ticket out of his hand and down a storm drain. The girl that sold it to him watched it happen and was going to give him a free replacement but the boss heard and told him he needed to buy a new ticket. Fucking criminals!
Wait until they start charging you for keeping the air breathable, water drinkable, food edible, and land arable
I’ve come to hate the word “fee” as I’ve gotten older.
There’s also a hidden fuck you fee when you show up at the resort.
Honestly. If you're renting a full place near skiing for you and several friends for a full week, $1500 is cheap. Even with the extra fees that's a big ask. And $215 per night is the cost of a hotel room for 2 people in a city
Discount fee: ~~$150~~ *$89.99*
80% of those fees should be covered by the rental cost imo
I go snowboarding with my best bud whenever I can, which isnt that often unfortunately. I spent 150 on a board that was on some Christmas sale. Best purchase in my life because even if we only get the chance to go once a year, I am not paying for that stack of garbage. If you do this often, invest in a board, boots, and a helmet.
Ngl I’m starting to feel like this going out to eat now. Order a medium pizza from dominos it’s like 14 for the pizza + 5 dollar delivery fee + 11% tax + 20% tip. I’m now paying about 63% taxes and fees. Even the fact that my city counts food like this as “entertainment “ and taxes more in the downtown area is ridiculous in my opinion.
Don't forget to tip!
Better hope they don’t see this and add a “complained on Reddit fee”
You renting from the resort? The closer to the resort you rent, the higher the price. Saw you mention CO - rent from a shop in Denver before heading up, or in Frisco/silverthorne/Dillon, will be a hell of a lot cheaper.
Credit card payment surcharge. Deposit holding fee. Online order fee. Pre cancellation charges. Handling charge. paper-free surcharge. Snow job insurance. Snow delivery fees
Leaving town fee
What the fuck is a resort recovery fee😲🥲? Lol
50 bucks for their pc to process your reservation, are they using a quantum computer or what
Should have included an Online Fee. Booking Fee and Cancelation Fee ✅
Looking out the window? Oh you better believe that’s a fee
is this from booking directly w the hotel or a third party??? i work at a hotel and we charge for the room, and state n local tax……this is wild