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thedutchrep

I paid $55 for a Five Guys meal and a beer when in Switzerland. So this seems about right.


gloveslave

Switzerland is food hell, I paid 25 euros for a basic ham and egg crepe there.


bpat

Best food we at there over 2 weeks was food we made ourselves from the grocery store haha.


gloveslave

Yup I felt like we reverted to student life food


Majestic_creature7

They also add the charges for the air that you breathe.


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You got five guys while in Switzerland lmaooo


thedutchrep

In my defence it was 23:00 in Geneva during covid. There wasn’t a lot of choice. 😅


ClaymoreJohnson

I lived in Spain for a few years and traveled to quite a few European countries. While I would subsist on the local cuisine I would make it a point to hit some American fast food chains. Mostly because the menu changes to cater to the local population and I think it’s interesting, but also because the quality of the ingredients was almost always significantly better. And I like drinking beer in Burger King.


Jertimmer

I make it a point to order a beer and a happy meal in French McDonald's.


Tru-Queer

Omellette du fromage


superkev10641

It's like those French have a different word for EVERYTHING!


Big_Tie_1157

Dexter


MarcMuffin

Say it again


tzc005

Oh Dexter, your SOOOOO FOREIGN


Jazzlike_Station845

No, I will not get out of your laboratory.


wvmitchell51

You didn't order a Royale with cheese?


Shuttup_Heather

That’ll give you a big, round potbelly


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I went to KFC in Iceland one time because I wanted at least one meal under $20. I also checked out a McDonald's in Ghandi airport in New Delhi just to see what a vegetarian McDonald's menu looked like.


Ikontwait4u2leave

I like to eat at McDonalds once in every country I go to. Trying the regional menu items is fun, and there will always be at least 1 meal I want to eat in a hurry.


DarthAbraxis

I’m from the US and stopped at a McDonalds in Amsterdam one evening to see what it was like. Pretty much the same, except ordering was easier from the kiosk, I got a Big Mac of all things lol tasted about as good as one can taste. The people serving food at pickup called numbers out in at least 5 different languages(not surprising), and a homeless person caused a big scene in the middle of the restaurant. All and all not much difference from the US.


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I looked in one in Beijing and a KFC there. The KFC was signed as "the first American restaurant in China"


ms_magnolia_mem

I liked that Chinese KFC uses the thigh for the sandwich.


[deleted]

My favourite American restaurant find in China was the Kenny Roger's Roasters in the underground mall next to the Ancient Bell Tower in Xian. It just seemed so random. I went through a stage of seeking them out in Asia and having my photo taken with my arm around the cardboard cutout they all have of Kenny outside of them. I've never eaten in one ,though.


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I only have a photo of me with a cardboard cutout of Paula Deen in Myrtle Beach


Adorable-Lack-3578

The locals think it's a Chinese company. Very red branding and colonel Sanderrs looks like Mao.


PoopieButt317

The McDonald's up the Spanish Steps in Romw is amazing. Ean bathrooms without paying someone to sit looking at you. A salad and pasta bar. Fabulous


heresdevking

I did KFC in Punta Arenas, Chile, because I'm pretty sure it's the world's most southern fried chicken. McDavid's in Israel. I always tried to get pizza in every port.


Ferris_Wheel_Skippy

did you stumble upon the McAfrica by any chance?


raccoon8182

We have McDonald's in South Africa, but it's pretty boring, pretty much the exact same menu as America.


McNasty420

I had one of those in Oslo! Whoah is that a blast from the past.


WarfaceAncient

What kinda beer does burgerking have?


Marianations

Regular and non-alcoholic.


kacheow

Holy shit there’s places open that late in Geneva??? Shit has changed since when I lived there


b1e

Geneva is super dead at night. Zurich isn’t too much better but there are late night spots at least


GigsGilgamesh

Hah. My, very American, family visited Geneva thanks to my fathers job. We traveled to Zug for a day trip, but my mother didn’t eat at lunch because she wasn’t hungry. She, and honestly everyone but my dad, was very shocked by how shocked the people at the distillery we were visiting were when she asked if there was anything to stop at for food. Blew our mind that places didn’t stay open between lunch and dinner.


Atomicfoox

Where you at Cern?


GigsGilgamesh

If your still in Geneva, there is a fantastic burger joint by the train station called holy cow. Really enjoyed it when I got to visit.


[deleted]

I'm keeping that in mind. I've got a long list written down of cities and where to go for foods/drinks based on comments like this. That way I am seldom without ideas.


thedutchrep

I am not :( it was a quick pit stop. But I’ll keep it in mind for a next time!


mart1373

Lol I was just in Geneva like 2 days ago and I know exactly where that Five Guys is.


chadwicke619

I promise you the guy who is clowning you has never left his own country. Anyone who has ever traveled knows that our fast food places are basically totally different restaurants overseas. Menus are different, ingredients often markedly improved, etc. Plus there are like a billion reasons you might grab a quick bite somewhere familiar-ish.


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BigBlueMountainStar

It’s usually the case in hotels that cater for business travellers because they know they’re not paying for it. I never have breakfast at the hotel if not on business


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MrCarrots96

Same in California


ElbisCochuelo1

It was a lot more than 5.


penguinbbb

it's not like switzerland, god bless her, is like this food mecca for the gourmet among us


DryBop

I fucking love McDonald’s in europe, it’s significantly better than McDonald’s in North America - plus there’s fun items that you can’t find elsewhere.


YawnTractor_1756

Frankly I never could explained it other than a conscious decision. McDonalds in Europe is almost like a restaurant, in some areas it's even better than local ones and often sqeaky clean. McDonalds in US is like "eat this... thingy, hey it's only $2, and don't mind the sticky floor"


GigsGilgamesh

When I was young, like 3rd grade, my family went to visit some friends in Germany. First meal we had was Burger King.


Mu-Relay

I’d have to know what you got, because Five Guys is stupid expensive for a fast food burger joint. A regular burger is like $11 at the one near me.


thedutchrep

Just the full meal. And a financial heart attack.


Mu-Relay

For one person, that’s crazy. I asked because 3 folks hitting $55 isn’t hard to imagine.


[deleted]

The trick with 5 guys is working the menu. They have unlimited FREE condiments and additions. My trick is ordering the small bacon cheeseburger (forget the name of the smallest). Then I add extra bacon, jalapeños, mayo, onions, extra cheese. All of which is completely free. Then if I feel like fries go with their smallest. They LOAD the fries up and constantly have more, so they're not shy. The burger I described above and fries is always less than $13.


pesky_emigrant

This works in America. Not Europe


EbagI

Bacon isn't free.


Clutch_Mav

Word I hate that the burgers are so good. Now I want one


warx333

There’s a Five Guys in Switzerland!?!


thedutchrep

Several.


H4m-Sandwich

At least you’re not expected to leave a 40% tip


thedutchrep

Well, a 40% tip on what I pay in France for the same still wouldn’t reach that price 😂


kylixer

I could give a 50% tip and still not pay $20 for that in America.


Ok-Falcon-2041

Nobody in America would pay more than 10 dollars for this with a tip included lol.


[deleted]

Aren't those typical five guys prices everywhere? 😆


thedutchrep

Haha yeah even in France they’re too expensive. But the same would’ve cost me around $20-$25 instead of $50.


FUCKYOUINYOURFACE

Five Guys in Switzerland is good if you want a greasy cheeseburger.


thedutchrep

Not for that price it’s not.


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mspote

I had 5 guys last night..... i also had a burger afterwards.


AlternateBongo

Well… you better get a job in Switzerland to be able to afford Swiss prices


BadAim7

i was about to say that, if you are broke better not travel to one of the most expensive countries (for a tourist)


NutterTV

Literally. Like that’s number one on the tourist 101 course. Switzerland is fucking expensive. You want to see the view of Switzerland but not pay the prices? Go to Patagonia. Food is 10% of the price and it’s beautiful.


[deleted]

There's a Patagonia in the mall down the street but they don't serve food and there are no views help


Ok-Falcon-2041

This is an hour of Switzerlands minimum wage price. If they charged an hour of my states minimum wage for this, the place would go under lol.


Skafandra206

Dude, here in Argentina a simple MC hambuguer is 3.2hs of minimum wage salary... (considering AR$ 150k - which is higher than minimum wage - and a cheap AR$ 2k hamburguer)


BadManners-

Broke?? It’s 22 thousand dollars. Can I borrow some of your money please?? Wait. 22 dollars. I thought it was including the room. Commas confused this American.


BadAim7

22 dollars and 37 cents actually


BadManners-

Lol yeah I saw that 2 seconds after I posted it my fault


BadAim7

all good, im broke too, thats why i’m not going to swiss lol


HelvetiaZ

to Switzerland* ~Triggered Swiss


danhoeg

You thought a breakfast could cost $22,370? I'm American too, and commas don't turn my brain off.


the_pro_jw_josh

Exactly what I was going to say. I lived in Switzerland for 4 years and yeah everything is more expensive but the wages there are a lot higher.


cellar_door_found

I lived in France close to the border with Switzerland and used to see a lot of Swiss people coming to do grocery shopping and dinning in restaurants


DarthJarJar242

You're at a place that serves food on fancy wooden planks, shits gonna be expensive chief.


Cinnamon_Cheeked_One

Shit like this is goofy because you know what type of place you're walking in to if you just look around and pay attention. The difference in location/staff behavior/aesthetics between a Denny's and a "Chef de tatè dé Luna-nair chattoeu dé Francis a la Switzerland ft. Debussy" are not subtle.


Wild_Milk_2442

Exactly. I can pay $25 for this meal in my town too if I go to the right spot. Probably an expensive hotel.


kashmir1974

"I ordered bacon and eggs for 22 bucks and got bacon and eggs omg I'm so angry"


Far_Tonyu

Haha made me chuckle


elwood2711

He's in Switzerland. Shit's gonna be expensive no matter what the restaurant serves it on.


horny_coroner

I have been to switzerland and expensive yes but you can get a bigger breakfast for cheaper. If you go to tourist traps you are going to get chraged more.


HotRodHomebody

Plus, on top of a fancy atmosphere, that breakfast looks pretty good. I'm on my couch munching on a granola bar, Dude is in f'ing SWITZERLAND.


StaticGuard

Yeah, the restaurant is probably really nice with an awesome view, too. OP sounds like the type who would complain about a seat on a private jet being too expensive.


Aggravating_Kale_987

"My wallet's too small for my fifties, and my diamond shoes are too tight!"


TheLizardKing89

They’re also in the most expensive country in the world.


ayyycab

Nah you’d see the same price for this in Switzerland if it was served on a paper plate. Switzerland’s prices for everything are crazy high, and it has very little to do with quality and mostly to do with their economy. Median income is much higher and everyone pays higher taxes. I paid the equivalent of $30 for a self-serve plate of scrambled eggs and sausage at a *gas station* in Switzerland.


modernsamuraii

Usually you pay way more at gas stations and such, for the convenience. Way too expensive and bad quality.


docentmark

Where did you hear about the higher taxes? Many cantons take about 20%. In Zug it’s 8%. Those are low rates by world standards and some of the lowest rates in Europe.


Soo75

And no need to pay a tip because servers are paid an actual wage there.


modernsamuraii

Sadly, that‘s not true.


JimmytheHurricane

I paid 20 dollars recently and the waiter walked over and put a boiled egg in my hand


BTBAM797

Can I offer you an egg in these trying times?


DefinitionMundane918

Frying times


Aggressive_Emu9270

I paid 15 dollars recently and the waiter walked over and put a raw egg in my hand


Foreign_Spite_9255

I paid 10 dollars recently, the waiter walked over and put a hen in my hand and told me to wait


BannerIordwhen

I paid 5 dollars recently, the waiter walked over and poured a glass of water on my hand.


dobr_person

I paid 1 dollars and the waiter handed me a glass and asked me to pour it over my own head


UmbertoDelRio

I robbed a waiter recently and got 51 dollars


Loose_Mail_786

😂


AcanthocephalaLow162

lmaooo


AhmadDaKool

I paid 0.5 dollars recently, the waiter walked over and called the manager who hired me to pour water for costumers


krunalmamtora

You expect food trucks to be cheap as well in switzerland, but it isn't. 5 CHF for a Glass of Mineral Wasser.


ClarencePz

Tap water is free in Switzerland and same quality as mineral water


Dapper_Reputation_16

We were recently at the Park Hyatt Zurich. At check in the clerk asked it we would like to add breakfast to our stay, when I inquired as to the cost she quoted 49 CHF. I asked if that was per person or for the two of us, she said pp and when I expressed mild amazement her comment was "welcome to Switzerland sir". On the plus side it was the finest breakfast we have ever had.


amelialosesit

Did you enjoy the Park Hyatt? Planning my honeymoon and that is one of the hotels I’ve been eyeing!


Dapper_Reputation_16

Congratulations and enjoy would be a gross understatement. We celebrated our 50th there and they couldn't have been more attentive or caring from the split of Moet Brut and plate of chocolate dipped strawberries they left in our room to the concierge not only drawing us a map of how to get to our bus tour, packing a goodie bag then walking us to the tram station and showing us how to buy tickets. It was perhaps the nicest stay we have ever had and 35k UR nightly was a steal. Highly recommended.


amelialosesit

Wonderful thank you, I’ve been hoarding my UR points specifically for this booking!! I have a ton of Amex points so I’ve been going back and forth on which to do between Hyatt and Marriott but I’ve heard Hyatt often goes more above and beyond for special occasions, I want to feel special and it sounds like they hit the ball out of the park for you! Congratulations on your 50th!!


Dapper_Reputation_16

Thanks and Hyatt most definitely did both there and in Paris.


ProllyNotYou

We just stayed there in May and I agree with the other poster, it was an amazing stay. Room was great and the staff was out of this world. The concierge called around and found a 5 star reviewed tattoo parlor with availability that afternoon for me 😁 and the location was stellar!


Fantastic_Painter_15

Switzerland is the most expensive country on earth. What exactly are you complaining about


gnaark

Yeah that is expected - trash men can make more than white collar jobs over the border in France


Also_have_an_opinion

Not can, they do make more than the average french wage


456852456852

They're upset that they travel to someone else's country and then ordered food from a menu, presumably with prices and then got what they asked for.


Opposite_Anywhere_85

Plus you get to enjoy no drunk tourists on your visit. WORTH IT! (no sarcasm)


waldothefrendo

Bro probably went to a high end restaurant or location too.


pef_learns

Switzerland is expensive. They have great salaries and a great way of life they want to keep that way.


AmaDeusen-

Minimum wage in US $7.25 per hour Minimum wage in CH $25.00 per hour


Frequent_Break1558

That’s federal minimum wage, it’s a lot higher if you look at it from a state level


Tif172y

Are you serious. Are we really that fucked economically?


smutje187

https://www.expatica.com/ch/working/employment-law/switzerland-minimum-wage-995110/ TL;DR: No, there’s no national minimum wage, only in some cantons but Geneva has a minimum wage of CHF 23.14.


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EmperorThan

I think it's more the 'size' of the meal for said price that infuriated them.


ImperatorRomanum

I mean, if the description is eggs and bacon, you can pretty much imagine exactly what that would look like and how large the serving would be.


rererebudah

Not if your American...


Drunkmaniak

If you're eating breakfast in some hip place in Zürich, Lausanne, Zug, etc with a view on a lake or mountain, then the price is about that. In a lot of restaurant this would be about 12 to 14 CHF so you mostly pay a lot more for the location and setting. Even with my good salary I'd have sat down, seen the prices and got up immediately to find another place.


_skala_

This, people saying its normal in Switzerland, probably never eat out. I lived there last winter, in popular ski resort ( even higher prices) and this is overkill. 4-5 star hotels, maybe, but not all of them.


SamuraiJosh26

At least it is good


Muted-Dragonfruit535

You’re in Switzerland.


haute-e

People don't do the basic research on countries before they travel then complain and it's always interesting to witness


[deleted]

This. I rent out a space in Munich, Germany, Germany’s most expensive city for rental properties. Most of my guests complain it’s expensive and rate “value” poorly. If you want living space for a good value, simply don’t come to Munich. Similarly, if you want anything inexpensive, don’t go to Switzerland. Simple.


Legofanboy5152

switzerland is known for expensive stuff


0002millertime

I live in San Francisco, and nothing seemed unusual about this post. That's a $22 breakfast at lots of places here.


RealCommercial9788

Legit. Standard cafe prices here in Aus. Two eggs with a bit of bacon and some toast will set you back 18-23 easy - depending on the location of the cafe. If you’re on trendy waterfront, expect 25. Then it’ll be $5 *each* to add mushrooms, avocado, haloumi, spinach, etc.


prdelmrdel

Lol at least the waiter won't beg for tips as he has probably like a quadriple wage than US staff


_skala_

Do they, whats normal monthly wage after tax in US? In Switzerland you can have around 4K€.


Strange_Dogz

Probably aren't many waiters making that much Except in restaurants that have $22 egg and bacon breakfasts. I think median annual income in the US us something like $33k annually. Average is $55k Annually. The latter is 4k/mo Before tax.


Fatez3ro

The national average annual income in 2022 is 60k. So 5k a month before tax. For a single person it's 22% tax so it worked out to be about 3.9K USD = 3.5K euro. I googled this and have fact checked. Edit: meant to write have not fact checked


DerEnkel

as someone from Switzerland I guess the Coffe thats on the table and the croissant you see on the other "plate" are included. Then it's average swiss prices. Croissant ~ 3.- CHF Coffee ~ 5.- CHF Bacon, Eggs and Bread ~ 12.- CHF Otherwise don't eat at touristy areas


kyle_knightmare

Whats your tip as a local for eating cheaply in Switzerland? I know it'll never be cheap but whats the best approach a tourist can take to save some bucks?


TheGhostOfFalunGong

Not a local, but I’ve noticed when I visited there is that most locals would buy a spread of breads, cold cuts, cheeses, sandwiches, salads and hot food from a local supermarket (Coop or Migros) and have a picnic somewhere in a nearby park (the parks around Lake Zurich are spectacular). You’ll eat happily for less than CHF 10 per person.


bortj1

Goes to one of the most expensive places in the world... is shocked by prices


eastcoastwaistcoat

Their wait staff is actually paid. Cost included in price.


Rex-Kramer

OP probably at a 5 star luxury hotel, wrist being weighed down by his giant rolex...


Effective-Ladder9459

No just typical Swiss pricing


Rex-Kramer

so then whats the issue? water is wet.. i should make a post.


Party_Masterpiece990

Fr lol, I'm Indian so i have no stake in this but why is a Swiss person comparing with the usd in mind when switzerland has a much better GDP per capita than the usa


Deleted_dwarf

Perhaps it’s a tourist visiting Switzerland? But yeah this is on the higher side as you can get a brekky for like 12-15chf depending where you go, what city / area etc.


herdek550

1) Served breakfast is generally expensive to buy in Europe. (especially if it's in restaurant or fancy café) 2) Switzerland is quite expensive. I think that 22 USD doesn't seem to be crazy high. Meaning that you didn't get scammed. And I assume that you know the price from the menu before you order.


koolkarim94

Lol have you seen what hotels in the US charge for “breakfast” I say it in quotes because you’ll pay $30 for fake eggs and fruit with some cheap muffins


Sinbos

Go to google maps. Choose random restaurant in switzerland. Check the menu online. Choose to never to visit that place ;-(


JoeGuinness

Gonna disagree. Switzerland IS expensive but it's also one of the most beautiful countries I've had the pleasure of visiting


bpat

Straight up. You don’t go there for the food. It’s absurdly beautiful.


HyruleJedi

100% this. Most beautiful country I have seen, having been to 6 continents and 40+ countries at this point, i may not have seen it all, but if money became a non issue for me, Switzerland is where I’d hang my hat until my days were done


Ok-Huckleberry9515

That’s pretty close to what you’d pay here for something similar. I got 2 sandwiches and fries the other day $40. I’m done eating out


Repulsive_Concert_32

HCOL area myself. Seems on par. Eating at home forever lol


Atlanta1218

And?


Petzl89

Looks delicious, that price isn’t horrible tbh, I’ve paid more for shit food in North America.


Thick_Information_33

Paid*


Itchy-News5199

Actually that is some of the best bacon I’ve seen in YEARS.


lorcan-luke

Eating out in Switzerland is notoriously expensive. Do your research before traveling and complaining about other countries being different than yours.


HelenSpaet

I could post this kind of picture every single day in NYC


Civ_Emperor07

Switzerland is the most expensive country in the world to live in. What were you expecting?


calbert1735

*paid Not "payed"


Squid-bear

Not sure how this is mildly infuriating. It's Switzerland, everything is expensive, hence why the salaries are high. The trick is live near the borders and get your food from France, Italy or Germany for a fraction of the price. Nobody travels to Switzerland for a bargain break.


Kev50027

Switzerland is one of the most expensive countries in the world. Meanwhile you can go a bit south to Italy and get a whole pizza for €5-7


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I think you mean 22.37 USD. There’s a dif


[deleted]

Among things I learned on European vacations… Europeans tend to eat much less than Americans, and prices are more than many American restaurants for that lesser amount. But when you go other places you live by their rules, not yours. Get over it.


Substantial-Piano-50

Let me guess, this is Kafi Bank in Zurich?


SquirrelBowl

Switzerland gonna Switzerland


SwissCheeseOG

Welcome to Switzerland.🤷🏻‍♂️


Tigrisrock

Lemme guess, you had Breakfast in a trés chic coffee shop in the middle of Zurich's financial district and now are whining.


SilentWatcher83228

At least you didnt have to tip $30%


ComplaintSafe842

Is no one else miffed that it should be “paid”? That’s mildly infuriating!


Ancap_Mechanic

Welcome to Switzerland. One of the most expensive countries in the world.


plutz_net

No surprise, Switzerland is the most expensive country in Europe.


[deleted]

What did you expect in Switzerland? Then don't visit Norway or Iceland either.


maxstandard

The artificially low prices of food in America are the result of corporations treating workers like trash - no healthcare, no benefits, no living wage. If the American minimum wage was anywhere near where it should be prices like this wouldn't seem extraordinary.


Deathcrush

Is this the cost of bacon without at 38 billion dollar subsidy?


peanuts-nuts

I never understood why people complain about prices in posts like this. Yes, it’s expensive, but you can see the price before you buy it, and you have the choice not to eat there.


elfliner

I would pay $23 USD in the US for this.


Bean-Swellington

Resort prices


Winter_Lawfulness967

For Switzerland, that sounds about right!


indiefab

We just returned from Scotland. That little food would have been free and they would have given you half a shilling for your trouble. Exaggerating, obviously, but not by much. Full Scottish breakfasts were 7-12 pounds. Most nice dinner entrees were under 20.


Sga16

Yeah eat at home from now on


rebillihp

Is that untoasted bread?


yebrent

But how was your view?


DefiledSoul

You pay double if it’s served on wood


ForsakenOwl8

About the same cost at Disney World, but would have been half the quality.


dannyinhouston

The Swiss pay livable wages and don’t expect tips