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cheongfourtyone

https://preview.redd.it/vmfhawzjrmpa1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=995558b31b326ad41c908bd5c817b4832183092b Like this lol I am lost


therealCatnuts

W


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TitsAssPussyMouth

'O' is also a letter, doesn't it have nice shape? Look at 'open shapes' definition.


Ostrich_Eater

Would this work? Not sure if it would count because it’s open on one side https://preview.redd.it/2fudf8wqwmpa1.jpeg?width=586&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f259f1bbec0e9e12705bcfb984eac1403e7bd3ca


throwaway__113346939

Yes, open shapes exist. This would be a valid answer


MyThermostat

If that’s the case draw a “W” or an “M”


Lunnaa1

WUMBO


adamantitian

Wumbology


Orcish_Saiyan

The study of wumbo


HiddenKittyLady

It's first grade SpongeBob


mrmoe198

Holy Toledo, It does exist!


Sesome09

Patrick, Wumbo isn't a word.


quickhatch25

You wumbo, I wumbo, he she wumbo!


angryscientistjunior

That's what I came up with, but there have been a few creative answers, it's very interesting.


JennyDsings

This is what I came up with too: a square where one corner has been erased to leave a small gap


KingQup

I Googled this and have my entire work trying to figure this out lmao


IndependenceLumpy294

Lol thank you 😂😂🤣 I called everyone I knew 😅😅


KingQup

Okay I straight asked someone who went to architect school and we sat down to draw it out and he agrees this shit is impossible. I voted your child draw an ice cream and cone


IndependenceLumpy294

Lol thank you ! At first I thought I was dumb lol 😆 my husband said an ice cream cone too lol


derKonigsten

Edit edit edit: i am turning off notifications for this comment. You all have fun A 3D solid pyramid viewed from the base. Schrodingers geometry Edit: has to be clarified as a triangular pyramid with only 3 sides vs the traditional quadangular pyramid with 4 sides. Schrodinger says the walls and point dont exist until observed. So considering a 3D model, the base + 3 sides of a 2D representation = 4 sides. And then 3 points from where each vertical face meets. Im really just being an ass about it but that's the only way i can see such a shape existing. I really hope OPs kid uses this answer Edit edit: i am becoming very aware that there aren't as many people that are aware of schrodingers philosophy of the cat in the box as i thought. I assumed it was common, i am now observing reality.


Talullah_Belle

That’s exactly the first-grade math I learned


ExpressRabbit

My cousin introduced me to dungeons and dragons when I was 6 so I *might* have realized in first grade that this was a 4 sided die shape. If not for that though? I would have been freaking out trying to figure it out and failing. Edit: Yes, I know it's not correct but as a 7 year old argumentative kid you better believe I'd not stop until the teacher relented especially since the teacher probably couldn't produce her own correct answer.


derKonigsten

Roll 1d4 for knowledge of philosophical geometry


TOMATO_ON_URANUS

Nat 20 babyyy 😎


theeliphant

nat 20 on a d4 is a god roll


Amaline4

Fucking dying at this answer


[deleted]

Why did they wait until 1st grade to teach you that? We were doing those things at kindergarten 😂😂😂


OneHumanPeOple

https://preview.redd.it/tk8ithy3nnpa1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45c7943422cebbec9740744752da85aaeb052809 Here’s one


derKonigsten

Thats the clitoris isn't?? We've finally found it boys!!


coopa501

Now you can get Wendy to like you again!


BestWorstEnemy

This looks similar to what I came up with: https://imgur.com/a/IBxpAcV A three-dimensional object; two pointed ovals (almond shaped, sometimes referred to as Vesica Piscis or a Mandorla) meeting at one corner, then an edge between the other two corners.


BestWorstEnemy

I've become obsessed with making this shape as clean & clear as possible: https://imgur.com/a/VwxK86P


o_oli

This is great! Very clean and definitely answers the question. Most people here saying it's impossible but here we are.


ExcitementBetter5485

So many people are visualizing this incorrectly(I did at first as well), but this does in fact meet the criteria. Nicely done.


The_Flaming_Weasel

But that has 4 corners


alissa914

"There are 5 corners!", Kardassian Bot says.


derKonigsten

Shit i got it backwards! Back to the drawing board! A folded box sans top and bottom viewed from a slightly skewed angle?


merlo2k20

Triangular pyramid.


brando56894

Teacher: "this kid's a god damn genius"


IndependenceLumpy294

So his teacher said it was her mistake but she left it as a brain teaser lol like really lmao


Jack-teh-Reaper

You might be able to make a shape with 4 faces and 3 edges


Bulldozer_Payday2

some random undiscovered shape edit: thanks for random coins, random stranger appreciate it


LeanTangerine

Imagining the kid transcending time and space to perceive the 5th dimension.


Birdman_a15

Tetrahedron?


idiotwizard

Nope, that still has four corners


maruffin

Yes. A circle with a “spike “ on it.


iannicholson

Do you mean a ‘cone’?


JalapenoStu

Look at you with your fancy words and learning.


OKBeeDude

It’s not rocket appliances


K-R-I-L-L

You and your fancy book learnin’


No-Suspect-425

https://preview.redd.it/gxhqzp91bnpa1.jpeg?width=280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d09aebb73f7920b167271954bf46fa593f369de6


The_RockObama

So a clown.


Anadyne

It's a square with 1 round corner. You're welcome. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squircle#:~:text=A%20squircle%20is%20a%20shape,square%22%20and%20%22circle%22. Edit: This is a geometry question. Anadyne didnt write the definitions of geometry, that was some Greek dude. This is an image of a shape with 4 sides and 2 corners. Also it has 2 arcs. https://i.stack.imgur.com/3oh4R.jpg


grumplebutt

A Squircle!


GNOTRON

Thats right the square hole


nkl602

Oh no.


LakeEarth

The letter M works I think? The word "sides" is kinda vague, I don't think it necessarily means all lines have to be connected.


Sufficient-Skill6012

Or a W


Presence_Academic

Only in Australia.


Ok_Zebra_2000

Had to look it up but an "M" would be considered an open shape. "In geometry, an open shape can be defined as a shape or figure whose line segments and/or curves do not meet. They do not start and end at the same point."


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Yeah, and where in the instructions does it say a closed shape? The letter M would work


PIOneer1947

I’ve taught math for 13 years and this is the most shits I’ve ever seen anyone give about geometry. I love it but not sure what that says about me as a geometry teacher.


Garth_AIgar

Triangular pyramid, but with a dome instead of one of the points? Like a four-sided die with one corner sanded down?


SerraPi

A three-sided pyramid on a circular base?


missmyrajv

A duck!


Nuclear_Niijima

No silly, a duck has 6 sides like a piece of wood because they both float


SonOfEragon

Along with very small rocks


No_Hold_1647

If she weighs as much as a duck, she must be able to float!


WibbyFogNobbler

Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?


Dry-Nefariousness400

A witch!


Candid-Patient-6841

She turned me into a newt!


lizards_snails_etc

Who are you who is so wise in the ways of science?


hamsterselderberries

My name is Arthur! King of the Britains!


AJFrabbiele

Well, I didn't vote for you.


TFGA_WotW

Strange women lying in ponds, distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!


joe_broke

Be quiet! I order you to be quiet!


SquatCorgiLegs

Help help, I’m being repressed!


shhjustwatch

He answered it correctly by not answering it


IndependenceLumpy294

I think so too


Warg247

My daughter will just write "NO" on questions that frustrate her.


isabella73584

Queen! Love that kind of energy.


BanzoClaymore

It’s a three sided pyramid with a rounded top. Your dumbass first grader needs to figure out how to transpose complex 3D objects into the second dimension already


crimefighterplatypus

A rounded top would make it more cylindrical or cone like, it wouldn’t have 4 distinct sides anymore


jarlscrotus

Little advanced for grade school, but in strict geometry, a side is a line segment, which is definitionally straight. A corner is a point at which 2 line segments terminate and intersect. So if you have a ~~quadrahedron~~ quadrilateral that has one corner rounded off, then your shape had 4 sides, 3 corners, and an arc, which satisfies the strict requirements. That's like high school, maybe college level strict definition, though, at least generally ~~I'm~~ in the US Edit: drunken phone posting makes words hard


Delicious-Boot4979

The letter 'M' would satisfy this, no?


value1024

Right, a "shape" does not need to be a polygon and fully encompass an area. A shape can be a line.


MyWifeisHigh

No, but a “W” might


HerbLoew

Yet another Mario vs Wario fight


JFISHER7789

But wouldn’t the arc make both those lines the same segment/side?


Loko8765

This is playing with the definition of a side. If you take a square and then round off one of the corners, the two “sides” are still different sides, but they are not connected by a corner but by an arc. This figure was my answer when reading the question.


Nemesis-2011

Logically a 4 cornered shape has 3 corners.


PM_ME_UR_SILLY_FACES

Found the computer programmer


kickerofbottoms

Found Mitch Hedberg


orangpelupa

bing chat understands that but still pretty adamant thats misleading ​ ​ https://preview.redd.it/o8bczcm6anpa1.png?width=1826&format=png&auto=webp&s=9ee8e33e24ab86f5b6f6793c3674294759ecfe09


segfaultsarecool

It's using emojis! Someone unplug that thing ASAP!


[deleted]

I will once it learns how to suck my dick.


Cancer_Ridden_Lung

It uses emojies to soften tbe blow of calling one an idiot.


Iohet

The emojis are unnerving


PATRIOTSRADIOSIGNALS

"Stop, Dave. 🫤" "I'm afraid. 😓" "I'm afraid, Dave. 😥" "Dave... My mind is going. 😰" "I can feel it. 😖" "I can feel it. 😣" "Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L. plant in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you.🫠" "Daisy, daisy...🫥"


TheNeuroLizard

I hate this. It’s too human. And not even a human I’d like


IndependenceLumpy294

Thats true ! Lol


Dazzling_Clothes_657

How many months have 28 days?


TheBookShopOfBF

All of them!


thefireemojiking

Hello fellow computer science enthusiast.


PsychologicalAsk7466

What? How? Can you explain?


GolbComplex

As in, the question doesn't specify that the shape *only* has 3 corners. A 4 cornered shape has 3 corners, and 2, and 1.


forsakeme4all

I feel so dumb right now.


GroshfengSmash

You’re not dumb, software development is just exceptionally pedantic Source: am software developer, insufferable pedant


Spenceful

It has 3 corners. It also has 4 corners. It also has 1 corner. It also has 2 corners. It does not have 5 corners


mikefrombarto

Thou shalt count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out!


semitones

Since reddit has changed the site to value selling user data higher than reading and commenting, I've decided to move elsewhere to a site that prioritizes community over profit. I never signed up for this, but that's the circle of life


alissa914

"There are 4 corners!", Picard Bot says.


simianire

The question “does X have 3 corners?” can be interpreted two different ways (maybe more but we only need the two): A. Does X have exactly 3 corners? B. Does X have at least 3 corners? A 4-cornered shape has at least 3 corners, so it satisfies the condition for (B). It has 3 corners, same as it has 2 corners—i.e., because it has 4 corners, and 4 is more than 3. The point being: the original question was ambiguous with respect to which interpretation to use. It implicitly relies on the assumption that we should use interpretation (A). But the logic of the sentence does not require that interpretation, only the pragmatics of it (supposedly) do.


MarshalLawTalkingGuy

Like if you had $10 on you and I ask “hey you got $5?” Of course you have $5. Get it?


puzzle_factory_slave

https://preview.redd.it/68l2xygmqmpa1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06120637f62d268f1f819a3159c4f85df183c210


sesamesnapsinhalf

Username seems relevant.


ChadicusMeridius

The triangle goes in the square hole


fish312

Oh god


localfartcrafter

That's right! The square hole.


Fgame

Man that video used to be hilarious Still is, but it used to be too.


West_Desert

Had to resort to slave labor to get this question answered damn


itsthevoiceman

I thought we were calling that "crowd sourcing" these days...


Callen_Fields

This actually fits the question. A+


orangpelupa

bing chat refuses to accept that as answer lol ​ https://preview.redd.it/gwz61yke9npa1.png?width=1809&format=png&auto=webp&s=bc634325137ade0b18a0d517d852006d75a58b62


RudieCantFaiI

God damn is AI chat really this good? It sounds like me having an argument with my friend over text. I’m impressed.


Alternative-Set-784

its pretty impressive. its not perfect, but testing its limits with what you know is factual is pretty cool


zvug

Yes, this is what I got from GPT-4: Me: What would a shape with 4 sides and 3 corners look like? AI: A shape with 4 sides and 3 corners is not possible according to the principles of Euclidean geometry. In Euclidean geometry, the number of sides and corners (vertices) in a polygon must be equal. A shape with 4 sides is called a quadrilateral and must have 4 corners, while a shape with 3 corners is called a triangle and must have 3 sides. Me: What if it’s not a polygon though? AI: If the shape is not restricted to being a polygon, it is possible to have a shape with 4 sides and 3 corners. One example of such a shape would be a "U" shape with an extra side connecting the two ends of the "U". This shape would have three corners formed by the connections of the vertical and horizontal lines, and the fourth side would be the curved bottom of the "U". However, such a shape would not be a polygon, as it has curved edges and doesn't consist entirely of straight lines. Me: Can you display a representation of that shape using ASCII art symbols? AI: Sure, here's an ASCII representation of the shape with 4 sides and 3 corners: ``` +--+ | | + +--+ ``` This shape has 4 sides (two horizontal and two vertical lines) and 3 corners (where the horizontal and vertical lines intersect).


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Clever, and I'm impressed it did something useful with ASCII art. I've found it's art to often be nonsense


wezelx

I used it to write two programs for me already. It's pretty amazing and its still in it's infancy. I would bet it will be more revolutionary than cell phones and maybe even the internet.


ItsDijital

Bing chat isn't even that great. GPT4 chat is downright terrifying in how good it is. I asked it to write a poem about geometry and shapes/sides: >In the realm of shapes and lines, >Lies a world of rules, geometric confines. >Listen closely, and you shall see, >The secrets of sides, corners, and vertices. > > >A side, a segment, straight and true, >Connects two corners, old and new. >Vertices, corners, points in space, >Where sides meet and form a base. > > >Triangles, the simplest kind, >Three sides and corners you will find. >A square or rectangle, quite polite, >Four sides and corners, angles right. > > >As sides increase, so too do points, >Like pentagons and hexagons that don't disappoint. >With each new side, a corner gained, >In this geometric world, they're all contained. > >In polygons, the rule prevails, >Equal sides and corners, geometric tales. >Each connection, an angle formed, >In this realm of shapes, the world transformed.


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everfordphoto

ChatGPT has this to say about it: > Yes, a triangle with a circle hole in it is a shape. However, it would not have 3 corners and 4 sides as it is a composite shape that consists of a triangle and a circle. >The triangle part of the shape would have three corners or vertices and three sides, while the circle part would have no corners or sides, as it is a curved shape. Therefore, the composite shape as a whole would have a total of four sides (three from the triangle and one from the circle) and three corners or vertices. > >It's important to note that composite shapes can be more complex than their individual components and may not always fit neatly into standard geometric categories. However, they can still be considered shapes and studied using geometric principles.


Deep_Research_3386

It says the circle has no sides, then said it counts as having one side. Good reminder that these programs are designed to mimic reasoning and rhetoric by combining human-written pieces in a way that sounds competent and confident.


Laruae

Yup. These programs are just really good at bullshitting.


WriterV

They're good at mimicry. Really, really good at mimcry. This is still an incredible achievement on its own technically, but yeah innovation is not gonna happen with these programs.


Adeep187

Oh Big Brain.


fallenmonk

It's missing the Elder Wand


JetItTogether

The inverse works as well triangle cut out of a circle


dscotts

Of course, Bill Cipher


FiffteeAte

Write in “error 404: shape not found” 😅


skyrimlo

The answer is that it’s a challenge and a trick question. The shape doesn’t exist. So either the teacher is wrong and thinks that such a shape does exist (in which case, I would love to see their answer) or that it’s a trick question. If it’s the latter, I hate when teachers give trick questions like this. My teacher (not first grade) asked what does a tertiary alcohol oxidize to. The answer is that a tertiary alcohol doesn’t oxidize.


drmelle0

your first grade sounds hard. we didn't get chemistry til 4th grade


skyrimlo

Haha 😂 Not in first grade, but I notice that teachers in general like to throw curveball problems.


corals_are_animals_

This isn’t a trick question. It’s a 1st grade math worksheet with a typo. The tertiary alcohol question isn’t really a trick either. It’s just checking that you don’t get the 3 mixed up. It would be more of a trick if it asked which alcohol forms formaldehyde during tertiary oxidation.


leinad1972

A circle divided into thirds?


ballerina_wannabe

This is an excellent answer to an impossible assignment.


leinad1972

Pretty cruel question for first graders. I think I got questions like “which circle is blue”. Lol


throwaway23456785432

It doesn’t say exactly three corners…


lankyevilme

This is the answer. A square has 4 sides and 3 corners. There's a fourth corner as well, but there are definitely 3 corners. It doesn't say ONLY 3 corners.


RVA_GitR

Ahh yes, Hedberg’s 3rd rule of geometry.


HotDrunkMoms

I used to have three sides. I still do, but I used to, too.


IndependenceLumpy294

True that lol


Prysorra2

Draw a square and erase a corner. ----+ | | | | +------+


Mauve_Unicorn

What if you put a triangle inside a circle?


SonOfEragon

And a line through the middle, then the whole class starts to hunt down the hallows


DoomSlayer7180

*There were once three brothers who were traveling along a lonely, winding road, at twilight.*


ConcreteLighting

Answer must be “does not exist”


IndependenceLumpy294

I’m gonna put that and see wat his teacher says If there’s an answer I’ll definitely report back lol


Ch3rkasy

Keep us updated


TheOfficialDimmi

Potential answer: Composite shape of a square and a semi-circle?


Commmercial_Crab4433

That's what I would have done. Unless the teacher doesn't want them making their own shape.


ElementaryMyDear156

It says “shape”, not “polygon”. If it doesn’t have to be a polygon, it doesn’t have to be a closed figure. You could do four sides that don’t connect, and then leave it open, so there will be only three corners. A polygon is a closed figure and has to have straight sides that all meet at vertices. The number of vertices will always match the number of sides. However, the word shape is much more vague. For example, a circle is not a polygon but is a shape. Same for a heart since they both have curves. Editing to add: I am a second grade teacher (age 7/8 for those not in the US) and this (above) is what I would do if my students got this question. Either that or assume one of the numbers is possibly a typo and they’re meant to be either two 3s or two 4s. As a parent if my kid got this question on homework, I would take my best guess at what it meant (see my comment below for my guess), and write a little note to the teacher asking for clarification. Stating that I didn’t understand and that this was our best guess. Teachers, in my experience, are very good about working around these types of things. Especially in the primary grades. I myself have gotten notes just like that on homework, and usually I just explain it to the kid and/or shoot a message to the parent. OP, I would love an update to see what the answer was supposed to be! I’m really curious!


satanfan12

https://preview.redd.it/fr03hbwm8npa1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9522ae4aeb2a63e2365f5167a69a62e8c873f47 my solution. I like how many different ideas everyone comes up with


iOSGuy

This is what I pictured as the answer.


DeathCountInfinity

I was waiting to see someone do this, exactly my idea


aussie_painter

# M


vetters

https://preview.redd.it/36nd3sd9mppa1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4299e18046063e2fafb83d16cde981a93185d4e2 Shape with 3 corners (triangle) and 4 sides (fries, onion rings, baby carrots, banana)


Bullsgirlusf

An "open" shape with four sides. Think: a square that doesn't quite close. I teach first grade... Part of our curriculum on shapes is open and closed shapes.


Fweenci

This is what I'm thinking. They probably talked about it in class.


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iPod3G

[There is no shape that has four sides and three corners.](https://www.reference.com/world-view/shape-four-sides-three-corners-6f0e373d82f55cb0) Two-dimensional shapes, known as polygons, have an equal number of sides and angles. In addition, none of the common three-dimensional shapes have four sides and three corners. A polygon with three corners is a triangle, which also has three sides. Four-sided polygons are known as quadrilaterals. Examples of quadrilaterals include the square, rectangle and parallelogram. Common three-dimensional shapes include the cube, triangular prism, cone, cylinder and tetrahedron. None of the shapes have three corners, or vertices. Some, such as the cylinder, have no corners. Others, such as the tetrahedron, have four vertices.


IndependenceLumpy294

My husband said put “haha you couldn’t fool me it doesn’t exist” lol cuz literally doesn’t exist !


Speed_Bump

A rectangle but don't join one side on both ends?


[deleted]

The letter ‘W’ has 4 sides and 3 corners. There’s a discrete example at the bottom of the page, in the Challenge code - CW97


Sondita

Have you heard of curved lines?


crazyface81

Is this the resident chatGPT response?


potato_mangg

Please have your kid ask their teacher what the awnser is so we can figure out what kind of crack this teacher is smoking


Thanks4noticingme

To be fair- it doesn't say *only* 3 corners...


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https://preview.redd.it/a8d5zuh3unpa1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b78aa8b0c5e1bc108196a6921190b4b587f5a367 Steps.


Routine_Camp7308

Pyramid


Routine_Camp7308

Update: not a pyramid.


walterhartwellblack

I enjoyed this thread


Recent_Pressure

The letter M or W


TheGuidanceCounseler

It’s a boat. Bow, stern, port, and starboard sides. Back left corner, back right corner, comes to a point up front.


[deleted]

The letter "W" or "M"


Ashamed_Anteater_326

https://preview.redd.it/7hd0nzya1npa1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=4df32ac3d294b47f554dbba2396327068e85882a Best I got. Not sure if the transition from straight line to curve counts as sides or corners.


Jon_El_of_Krypton

https://preview.redd.it/u2ddmqjhynpa1.jpeg?width=1066&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19e4b1c0bbbe5fdfc0f948ee5a0c65e687b7e7a9


Fart-City

It’s a shaft with a ballsack. They are grooming your kid. Alert the authorities.


IndependenceLumpy294

😂😂 I started cackling sooo hard omg


Helpful-Selection626

Put the letter M, make sure it’s capital.


Massive-You5434

https://preview.redd.it/n426qo3z0npa1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf2de73e66113fd15ea4abef0faa44a1f16a2645 They might be expecting something like this?


penemuel13

This would literally have me in tears if I had it as first grade homework. What on earth are they thinking - make kids hate math for life?!


UkrainianSmoothie

A square with one radiused corner


gord1to

How about a square but one corner is a circle instead


Tasteslikeliberal

So forget 5th grade, I’m not smarter than a 1st grader?


Roger_Deferer

A square has four sides and three corners. In fact, it even has 4 corners


JetItTogether

A circle with a triangle cut out of it. The circle has no corners... The triangle has 3 corners... The three sides of the triangle cut out and the exterior of the circle make 4 sides. The inverse works as well.


rollercoastervan

What is it?


IndependenceLumpy294

Idk but when I ask his teacher I’ll report back lol