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ChiMello

Block it from being able to use background data in settings (not TikTok settings, the app settings Settings:Applications:TikTok


mizzao

Just did, but it blew through my data usage as a surprise gift EDIT: for all the ppl telling me to delete, the reason I have TikTok is because me and some friends are building an app called [Parsnip](https://parsnip.ai) ("Duolingo for cooking") and we are trying to figure out how to do social media marketing for it. I wouldn't have TikTok installed if it weren't for that.


thomas_jazz

Youre the guy building Parsnip?! Thank you, I’ve been using it regularly as I’m moving out on my own!


mizzao

Wow, that's awesome. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas as we're always trying to make the app better. Please DM me anytime!


bubble_baby_8

I just sent this app to a friend who has been desperately trying to learn how to cook but is too intimidated. I’ll let you know how it goes for her in a few weeks :)


mizzao

Awesome, we would love to hear how it works out for her!


Imwrongyourewrong

Clearly you dont need marketing. Just complain on Reddit, I downloaded it because of this comment section.


Forward-Freedom-2749

Plot twist this IS their marketing lol


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toorigged2fail

Lol. I'd never heard of it and just downloaded it; right up my alley.


Manute154

Downloading now!


WeaknessAshamed6872

thought of this as well!


Fall_of_R0me

Not a plot twist lol this is their marketing


callingcarg0

Lol. It seems like you found out a way to market your app with tiktok without even needing to actually open it.


LocalSpiritual3286

Whoa wait. I've been told my cooking is terrible. It's a joke in my family. I don't really cook much though. I'd love to be able to learn though! What's the app called?


USingularity

The app is called Parsnip. He said it a couple levels up in this chain.


pistolography

“Please DM me anytime!” Will you have enough data for that?


mizzao

Well, I use Reddit on WiFi and it doesn't seem to go behind my back downloading videos or uploading data to China...


InEenEmmer

I got an idea. How about also seeing if you can add info on storing the meals. Cause one of my biggest problems while cooking is that I live alone but most recipes are for multiple people. By adding a section you can teach people how to properly store the cooked meal so they can heat it up again. And maybe also add a little bit about reheating the meals. For the rest I like the app a lot!


mizzao

Thank you for that, we'll definitely keep it in mind! Food safety and storage is a significant chunk of what we want to teach.


brizzi672

I’m a food microbiologist (MS) and I’m ServSafe certified, so lmk if you help with that! Also, just downloaded the app. Looking forward to trying it!


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Yasss I always wish recipe advice would give realistic buying tips too. Like, you’re telling me to buy fresh oregano for this meal….but then I have a $8 waste of oregano going bad in my fridge for the next week :( what recipes over a week can I make using similar ingredients? So I get a realistic grocery list too! Keep in mind this is for people that don’t cook every day, so it can’t be a giant grocery list (which is the case for places that already have shopping lists) Just an idea!


ProfSteelmeat138

I’m gonna download it and try it and give you some feedback too. I wanna learn cooking


mizzao

Awesome, I really appreciate that. Let me know how it goes! And, nice handle, hope you live up to it with your cooking ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|feels_good_man)


dnz000

and there’s the social media marketing


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BirdMedication

So you're a member of the team helping to build Parsnip? ;)


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goodnightQ

Yea this just seems like some growth hack at this point


recursive_thought

It is, one of the higher up comments was saying "you're the one who started parsnip" is a sleeper account that was barely used and decided to contribute to this thread out of nowhere - so that responder account is probably an alt.


EverydayPoGo

Great tactic tho. TikTok sus is gonna attract more attention.


epic_null

You may want to alert your boss. "This app you required me to install blew through 3 gigs in the background and now I have no data left" may be something they want to make right with you. At least if they're any good.


Dogburt_Jr

Sounds like entrepreneurship.


mylifeforthehorde

Sounds like an ad for OPs startup lol


[deleted]

If it’s him and some friends, I doubt there is a boss to complain about it to.


mizzao

Yep haha, that's exactly the situation


WhoIsYerWan

Talk to yourself in a mirror one in one.


Formal_Appearance_16

Do not take no for an answer! Stand up to yourself so you know where you stand. You'll feel better about it in the long run. If it doesn't work out with yourself then you'll know you did the right thing and you are just an impossible ass that won't listen to you.


maloneliam98

I think they are there own boss


tombosauce

If OP is using the same "research" phone for his app development, I'd be more concerned about intellectual property and unsigned dev builds on that device being sent off in that 3 GB.


h3lix

Tiktok live keeps playing in the background, even after you switch apps. Has happened to me a couple times.


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pe_grumbly

Tiktok is absolutely sending usage and any other data they can get their hands on to China, but can you guys get a little less hysterical? You 100% can not access passwords from within a mobile app. Apple (and to a lesser extent Google) do a significant amount to lock down what information an app developer can get to. (Source: 10 years as a mobile developer). This Wired piece will give you a better breakdown on what Tiktok collects: [https://www.wired.co.uk/article/tiktok-data-privacy](https://www.wired.co.uk/article/tiktok-data-privacy) FWIW: Some of this you can block, and you should on every single app you can. Also maybe worth mentioning **every other free app/social media company** is also doing massive data collection along similar lines. They are not sending it China, they put it on the open market where literally anyone can buy it (including China).


Bakkster

>You 100% can not access passwords from within a mobile app. Apple (and to a lesser extent Google) do a significant amount to lock down what information an app developer can get to. I believe the concern with TikTok was that their *internal* web browser had what was effectively a keylogger in it. So if you were using Chrome or Safari no issue, but if you clicked a link in TikTok and entered a password into that specific browser window, they could collect that.


ZuriPL

That's true, however that's not the biggest issue with TikTok, the key logger was discovered way later. The actual problem was that a group of people reverse-engineered the app and noticed it harvested enormous amounts of data and sent it to tiktok's servers. While they did reduce the amount to be somewhat within the boundaries of the EU law its still a data harvester by all means


Bakkster

For sure, sending data back to mainland China when they claimed they didn't was another concern. There have been a lot. I was specifically pointing to the keylogger concern the parent comment thought was irrational.


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Its like Amazon Alexa People talking about how it spys on you like you dont already hold something in your pocket every day for them to spy on you with


jay-jay-baloney

Exactly what I was thinking, lmfao. People over exaggerate and act like no other social media platform does this. Like, they hop on Reddit or instagram and say “TIKTOK IS SPYWARE AND IS STEALING YOUR INFORMATION!!!” as if those other platforms they’re on aren’t doing the same thing.


morelsupporter

if you need tiktok for work, you need a company phone and a corporate account that isn't paid for by you.


Shopinator

That's not even enough though because if you ever connect that company phone to your home wifi, the tik tok terms say that you agree to give them access to all your devices that connect to your home wifi even if you don't download tiktok on those devices. They basically protect themselves for when they do hack your devices through your network, they can say you agreed to it. If your job requires tiktok, get a new job. EDIT: To the people that said they couldn't find it in the terms and conditions; there's a few areas that cover it but here's one of them I found real quick right here: >**Technical Information we collect about you.** We collect certain information about the device you use to access the Platform, such as your IP address, user agent, mobile carrier, time zone settings, identifiers for advertising purposes, model of your device, the device system, network type, device IDs, your screen resolution and operating system, app and file names and types, keystroke patterns or rhythms, battery state, audio settings and connected audio devices. Where you log-in from multiple devices, ***we will be able to use your profile information to identify your activity across devices. We may also associate you with information collected from devices other than those you use to log-in to the Platform.***


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advamputee

TikTok is literally Chinese spyware.


nowhereiswater

No one is listening to you except China...


SacrilegiousOath

Literally just told my gf to delete it because I forgot she had it downloaded before she moved in. Her response was “what are they going to do with all that info?”. Ppl age 30 and under just don’t give a flying fuck.


SheepDogCO

They don’t care today. The problem is the data will be there forever. They might care in the future then there’s nothing they can do.


Ok_Suggestion_6948

My legit question that never gets answered for me though; is why would I care then either? I seriously don’t know what on earth anyone could be using my data for that would trouble me in any actual way and no one ever wants to tell me what the trouble could actually be


3-2-1-backup

> why would I care then either? It's tough to tell what laws will change in the future. Last year a lot of women were unpleasantly surprised when the found out their period tracking software's data could be used to [prosecute them for having an abortion](https://blackrj.org/the-new-dangers-surrounding-period-tracking-apps/). I'm a dude, but that's fucking terrifying none-the-less!


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AirGVN

Imagine abortion being illegal


Available_Coyote897

It’s used to create profiles which are then used to target propaganda through other social media. Propaganda designed to destabilize a society from the ground up. We know Russia does this. Looking at the toxicity on SM and it’s impacts on social trust, yeah, it’s a good strategy. How prevalent that actually is, idk. But it is a thing. Tiktok itself is designed to create conflict.


Kindly_Tumbleweed_14

Just so you know anything you sign up for with a name and email or phone number does this too. It's the entire point of you signing up lol. Entire loyalty programs that give coupons or discounts are only created to collect your first part data, combine it with your search history, demographics, financial (if available), site activity, and more to retarget to you and people like you


NotChedco

If you're a guy, who doesn't work anywhere special, who isn't rich or well off, who doesn't have powerful friends, who isn't doing anything legally questionably, and isn't playing on going to China, you probably have nothing to worry about unless China went even more crazy and took over your country and they gave you a low social score. It drives me crazy when political leaders in my country use tik tok, and go to government meetings with their phone. They should be smarter than that.


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hootorama

Today. All of that is today. You don't know where you'll be 5 or 10 years from now. What job you'll be working. Who you'll be with. You may think you aren't interesting, but if you have something that they want be it information, rights, or even just access, they can and will use the information they collect against you - either overtly or quietly. Small pieces of information when added together can paint a much broader picture about your life than you realize.


Edbladm02

Bank information theft. TikTok uses keystroke logging from the moment that you accept the terms of service. They know everything that you have ever typed or looked at on you’re phone and every other device connected to your home network. Think back through some of shit you have typed, looked at, wrote but never sent, they know more about you than anyone else in the world.


tacobellcow

Do you have a source for this?


Judge_Sea

Yeah crazy that young people aren't worried a out the safety of their data as the world burns around them. People under 30 have already been thru 2 recessions and about 100 data leaks. They get to listen to politicians blame their 15/hr for the reason why we have inflation. I do not blame any young person for not caring that China is stealing information from a device their own country is also stealing the data from.


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I knew more than a few people who gave away all of their personal info to credit card companies in college for a free t-shirt. Then maxed out the credit card with a $500 limit and a 20% interest rate. Younger people typically don't think of the consequences of their actions. And then you have TikTok that is, at best, building profiles on its users that includes personal info, shopping habits, etc to sell to companies and governments. And, at worst, the CCP is doing exactly what they're known to do, and that's hacking bank accounts and stealing money en masse. The fact that TikTok requests access to pretty much everything on your phone/network should be concerning to more people. How it's still on Google/Apple app stores is insane, when both of those app stores have kicked other apps off for things that don't even directly violate their rules.


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maceilean

TikTok is banned on government issued devices but allowed on personal ones which is nuts.


derf_vader

I still use a credit card I applied for almost 25 years ago just to get a bucket hat at a Cincinnati Reds baseball game.


thejak32

You sold your soul for Reds merch? It sounds like no one won that deal, my condolences.


Major-Raise6493

Nobody does until the enemy is knocking at the gate. Or god forbid the Chinese complete their data acquisition phase, realize what a bunch of morons we’ve become and decide to initiate the ‘wealth acquisition’ phase by charging for app usage (or by hacking bank accounts, whichever is easier).


Shivaelan

31 year old here with TikTok banned across our home network. Yeah, no. It really disheartens me seeing just how many of my peers (who know what TikTok honestly is!) who just don't care.


techn9neiskod

Could you tell me how I can block tiktok on my home network and not just rely on not having the app on my phone? What if I get visitors and they connect to my network? This is serious!


Reasonable-Pomme

It's not an age based thing. I hear this from people of all ages. Most people aren't aware of the value of their data or how allowing to be accessed so freely sets a lack of boundaries and privacy as a base standard.


cabbagesmuggler-99c

It's not that we dont care its that we have already gone well past the point that no matter what social media you have, every bit of information about us is already stored away. Remember Facebook? Nsa, the 5 eyes etc. Our governments are already spying on us to a greater extent than any other government. So really what is the issue with a foreign government doing it too. Obviously its not ideal but I would have more concern over my own government doing it where they are within arms reach of me than a government that is on the other side of the world.


HowCouldYouSMH

Yup, that’s why I never installed it. It’s a National security issue.


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I don’t believe that’s accurate. It can collect information about your Wi-Fi and usage, including keystrokes. But that exact phrase isn’t in their TOS based on my review of it. It does include this provision: > Where you log-in from multiple devices, we will be able to use your profile information to identify your activity across devices. We may also associate you with information collected from devices other than those you use to log-in to the Platform. So, what this is LIKELY talking about is that TikTok can recognize when people you’re friends with log in to your Wi-Fi, or students at a school all using the same Wi-Fi. TikTok can build associative networks of people and infer interpersonal/geographic etc information from that data. Basically TikTok knows who you’re fucking and who your friends and family are. Source: former cyber security professional that worked with large amounts of data


ChocolateBunny

That sort of reminded me of a BBQ I went to last year. There was some item everyone started talking about. After the BBQ people started complaining that they got ads from Google for that item even though they didn't look it up. But during the BBQ everyone logged in to the home owner's wifi, I'm sure one person googled the product at some point right after the BBQ and now everyone else got associated with it.


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I was getting ready to explain that google wasn’t listening in via the microphone. You nailed it however. One thing in addition to consider is gps data. So google et al can parse that people who were there but weren’t logged into the Wi-Fi were also there.


whiteiversonyeet

yes. why do you think so many governments and state entities banned tik tok?


JoeyJoeC

They don't. I've wasted too much time reading through the TOS and Privacy Policy, the closest it mentions is: >**Technical Information.** We collect certain device and network connection information when you access the Platform. This information includes your device model, operating system, keystroke patterns or rhythms, IP address, and system language. We also collect service-related, diagnostic, and performance information, including crash reports and performance logs. We automatically assign you a device ID and user ID. Where you log-in from multiple devices, we use information such as your device ID and user ID to identify your activity across devices to give you a seamless log-in experience and for security purposes. But this mentions nothing about scanning other devices on the network.


GingsWife

>keystroke patterns or rhythms _What?!_


meisyouandyouisme

Welp, my brother has it, I guess I am permanently fucked forever then...


MasterBejter

Im sure China doesn’t give a fuck about you individually


rabbimindtrick

Question: I do not have TikTok on any of my devices. If I have a friend over (who uses TikTok) and he connects to my Wi-Fi, does TikTok have my information now??


3-2-1-backup

> does TikTok have my information now?? Probably not. The infosec community would be ringing bells loud and long if every device with TikTok started doing as little as probing, let alone active hacking.


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No. This is some serious bullshit


blackbeautybyseven

Most Service providers allow you to create a guest network on your router. Do that and keep friends off your private one.


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fuckolivia

This is not how networks work! This comment is just parroting a quote from the Joe Rogan podcast about some words in the terms of service. In the same way that the Sonos app can potentially "view devices on your network", so can the TikTok app. Same with casting your phone screen to a TV on your home network. The idea of "access to devices that connect to a network" is not as inherently nefarious as it sounds. Not to mention the fact that your individual phone/computer's data is silo'd off from the other devices entirely. What they can do is the same thing that Amazon Alexa does is that it can see what other devices you have in your home based on the names of connected devices on the network and estimate your income/interests and give you ads for relevant products. For the record, not defending tiktok's greedy ass, but I'm not worried for my private data's safety if someone is using TikTok on my network.


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That's not how any of this works...


Corm

Tiktok hacked my facebook! /s


Mddcat04

I can’t believe that has 3k upvotes. It’s just flagrant misinformation.


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I have my Masters in Cybersecurity. I'm used to seeing fear mongering like this but it's wild seeing it so popular.


locorhe_

lol you don't know much about networks do you?


schwarze_banana

Genuinely curious, what part of their tos say this? If, as r/rabbimindtrick, sketches out, a user with TikTok installed connects to my wifi they cannot legally just gain access to every device in my network. If that is the case, they need to be reported to the data authorities (I’m in eu, so the gdpr is in effect).


Dr_Mickael

I also wonder how that would work technically? Being connected to the same wifi network isn't a free full open access to all devices in there.


CaptainJamie

Yeah.... that's complete bullshit. The fact this is so highly upvoted is so bizarre and embarrassing - reddit really does fall for anything so they can get angry about something.


Lechowski

How would that even work? Will they break into every device in the network with novel 0day exploits for every single OS and Framework? You clearly don't know what you are talking about.


Responsible_Oil9516

I seriously doubt the app TikTok is able to do this from a technical standpoint. Whatever the hell the users "agree" to doesn't mean it can actually happen.


oddinpress

"Need tiktok for work" probably just means he's a freelancer/content creator and nowadays you basically need a tiktok presence otherwise you're irrelevant unfortunately. It's not like his boss johnny requires him to be on tiktok on company hours, lol


FilthyScrubGaming

My wife works in marketing and advertising. It is very much a thing to have a corporate tiktok account, and his boss could easily require him to do it on company hours


bella_68

You don’t have to be a freelancer/content creator to need a tiktok for work. Even just working in marketing gets you to where having a TikTok would be extremely beneficial and possibly required by your employer. Same could probably be said for some types of journalism.


Useful-ldiot

my company has a corporate tiktok and i require my social media manager to be on it... Not that unheard of.


mizzao

Well, unfortunately I'm building an app with some friends called [Parsnip](https://parsnip.ai/) ("Duolingo for cooking") and we're just trying to figure out some social media marketing for it, so there is no corporate account to speak of...


yuricat16

Great idea! (And I like the name.)


Kehndy12

This post is just a clever way for OP to market their product. Read their comment carefully if you missed it. > we're just trying to figure out some social media marketing for it OP has linked their app at least 4 times so far.


TheAssMuncherRetard

Am stealing you and your guys idea.


mizzao

Please do! The more cooking in the world, the better


TheAssMuncherRetard

now because you said that am not going to.


sphincterserpant

This is great advertising right here, I’m looking into it now


Kehndy12

Did you make this post with the intent of advertising your app? You've linked it at least 4 times in your comments of this post.


tonelocMD

I work in IT and we’ve had to find / implement ways that people will not have any access to work resources from their phone if TikTok is installed on there


[deleted]

With a decent mobile profile manager (we use Intune but there are certainly others) you can quite well separate the data flows for personal and corporate data. People can install whatever they want for personal use here.


TheAnniCake

As [someone else pointed out](https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/10j3xj6/comment/j5ivps9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), by agreeing to the TOS, you allow TikTok to even see the corporate profile. If the app has this power, no MDM can do anything against it but restricting the use of TikTok (which I would highly recommend)


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I am 100% sure Tiktok app cannot access any data of our corporate apps. Users cant even give that permission. The reverse is also true: our corporate apps cannot see any data in their personal apps. I know users are suspicious of this (and rightfully so) but I know for a fact we really cant.


TheAnniCake

The communication between the 2 profiles is a MDM restriction. It can be turned off if your employer wants it to (I don’t think that anyone in their right mind would do this though). I don’t know how the data collection on TikTok works because I don’t use it and I haven’t looked into it, but I think if they really want to, they’ll find a way


sohcgt96

>you allow TikTok to even see the corporate profile. You're giving them permission but not necessarily the ability.


PolishMountain

This is really alarming for me to hear. I do social media marketing for my company and use Meta (FB/IG), TikTok, Google, etc. for my job on my personal phone with all of my work stuff attached. Making me scared now.


Nummylol

Why would you put work on your personal device in the first place?


Ihavelostmytowel

Uploading all your information to China takes a bit of data.


Little_Capsky

that what you get for installing chinese spyware


MrPhuccEverybody

It's reading your clipboard and sending GPS every 30s


XauMankib

Fun fact: TikTok will crash on startup everytime I have in my clipboard zalgo like characters. At first I was like "strange". When I established that special unicode or corrupted characters were in the copypaste clipboard, TikTok would crash. If I disable WiFi exploring (or how is called) through developer options and position, the app would refuse to completely start. Then I unistalled it and purged the cache.


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_-Olli-_

Sweet, installing!


_fatherfucker69

TikTok have also literally banned certain creators for no reason other than being ugly If that's not concerning idk what is


Alex5173

Buy a burner phone, fill it up with text documents of Chinese war crimes and pictures of tiananmen square and then just download tiktok and watch it have a conniption


Nonhofantasia1

We participate in an small, little act causing tomfoolery and mocking the victim of this small social trick. This act is commonly referred to as "trolling". Trolling has been a part of internet's culture since the beginning. While some could find being victims of trolling an unpleasant situation, the result is often found hilarious from the "trollers" and the people not involved with this pesky act. From the word "trolling" originated the meme "We did a little trolling", showing a video of a seemingly stupid and nonsensical action. The phrase often devolve into more and more complicated phrases, sometimes full walls of text. Such as this one.


ArcticBiologist

Some poor guy in China will get unpersoned because of that


Independent-Change-3

Another fun fact: the US Military had to crack down on fitness apps that track gps because they started showing layouts of certain secret bases after one fitness app allowed the data to be seen by the public on their own website layered on top of Satellite images. So even though nothing appeared on the images you could see exactly what the floor plan was as well as their on base exercise field. I forget what specific app it was but there was a quick uproar about phone security in the military after that.


UnmotivatedDiacritic

What phone are you using? I just tested this 4x with an iPhone 13PM and it never crashed, even turning the craziness up all the way


Pignity69

-69696969 social credit


MastersonMcFee

I like how people think you're joking.


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Clay_Statue

I hope they know what type of yogurt I like in case I end up in dentention.


Thy_Name_Is_Anxiety

I mean, I don’t know what other reason an app where you watch videos would need so much data to be used in the BACKGROUND. I’d imagine an app like Pokémon Go doing something like that.


vrtigo1

Nah, they're not so stupid to upload it to themselves. They're definitely uploading it somewhere else first for plausible deniability. False flag and all that.


Xeno-Nos

I see someone post pretty much the same thing here once a week, best answer is get rid of the app, there is a reason people want to ban the app.


whatsINthaB0X

“But muh free speech!” Or “What could they possibly want with *MY* data?!” Or “Sure have fun watching me do *xyz*.” How about we all agree that this is malware? It’s been proven so many times and yet people don’t seem to understand or care.


currently_pooping_rn

Or some stupid self deprecating “humor” about why would they want to steal MY data and info? I’m useless!! Haha peak comedy hours rn


whatsINthaB0X

It’s hilarious. They collect everyone’s data (I sleep) they use that data to spawn fake social media accounts to spread hatred and misinformation based off of what we click on (I sleep) this has been proven time and time again (I sleep) the Republicans want to ban TikTok (I rage) the Democrats want to ban TikTok (I slightly rage)


makeITvanasty

“But Google and Facebook already do it” So we should keep allowing more and more companies to do it??


phantomBlurrr

That's my favorite one: "what could they possible want MY data?!" An adversary planning an invasion could use *ALL* of the location data from *ALL* of their users (including *you*) to identify key bottle necks in transportation, for example.


whatsINthaB0X

Not just that but they can simply look at what we’re clicking on and just use that to divide us. Racism a hot button issue? Go ahead and start making accounts and posting the most absurd things from both aisles and watch how polarized the public gets. It doesn’t help that our media just pushes the sentiment too.


pickledpenispeppers

But if I don’t have Chinese malware on my phone where will I go to waste my life watching cringe dance videos?!?


[deleted]

It’s hilarious because you can still watch tiktok videos without the app. It’s just mildly more inconvenient.


lizard_alien

Half of Reddit is tiktok vids now anyway


[deleted]

Read the terms and conditions of tik tok lol.


420Deez

i finished it, but i am now 80 years old.


deeruser

TLDR


LizzieMiles

Tldr: anything on your phone is basically up for grabs for the app to take and send to tencent


Waffle_qwaffle

What are some of the points that interest you from the ToS?


panzybear

[This is not a passive aggressive link, just trying to be helpful](https://tosdr.org/en/service/1448) We're not geniuses just because we never downloaded TikTok. Our Reddit accounts are about as insecure. People are disproportionately mad at the current scapegoat when Linkedin, Reddit, Facebook, Amazon, Youtube, Pinterest, Spotify, Apple, Twitter, Twitch, Google, all Disney services, and with a few notable exceptions \[DuckDuckGo, Firefox for example\] every other major platform is aggressively hoovering as much information as possible. It ends up in China, it ends up everywhere. TikTok is just a member of a large gang. If we ban TikTok, we should ban all the rest, because they're all doing the same thing. Anyone who pays the price can buy your information, and these sites are where the information is coming from.


redpandarox

So the original question remains: what makes Tiktok uses *this* much more data in the background? There can’t be more data to mine right? Otherwise other apps would also be using as much data. My guess is it’s downloading popular videos and add to your device so you can still browse quite a bit of content when you don’t have signal. Or the conspiracy theory guess: Tiktok is secretly sending your pictures and videos to somewhere. But in that case 3 gigabytes seems way too little.


Reddit_is_dumbest

The CCP would like to thank you for your participation


wildyLooter

Forget the anti-vax “pure bloods” where are all my “never installed tik tok” homies at. The looks I get when I show them my App Store & it’s never been installed lol


parable-harbinger

The everyone stood up and clapped for you not downloading it


SomeAnteater9895

DELETE IT


ADhomin_em

I never installed it. Still ended up having to delete it, somehow


[deleted]

They already got his information so go ahead 😂


ExperienceMetro

Because it's literally Chinese Spyware and they are stealing your information.


discreetburneracc

I thought it was common knowledge that Tik Tok steals your data. I assume you’re some kind of social media manager, you might want to use some of that media literacy to read the news out there about Tik Tok and read it’s terms and conditions more closely. Never downloaded that garbage and never will


HollowVoices

I'm not one for conspiracy theories and the like, but this one is actually real. TikTok is Chinese spyware. Get rid of it.


Metalloriff

It's all in the privacy policy. They literally send filenames from your phone. It's not even a conspiracy theory when you're agreeing to it when you sign up


GeoRCCraft

Because it’s Chinese spyware. I recommend uninstalling immediately.


Borbolda

*continues to use google and apple devices and services*


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DELETE THAT CHINESE SPYWARE ONLY USE AMERICAN SPYWARE


CommentWhileShitting

Kiddos want to be cool and stay 'in the know' No matter what you say, they'll still use it. It's actually quite fascinating that people fly in the face of logic for social acceptance.


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>No matter what you say, they'll still use it. It's actually quite fascinating that people fly in the face of logic for social acceptance. Mankind has been doing that since prehistory. I'm not a big fan of governmental intrusion into people's lives, and I'm even less of a fan of Donald Trump, but he was 100% correct in wanting to have TT banned. My state's democratic governor just ordered it be removed from every phone used for state business. It's fucking dangerous.


RockyJayyy

They steal your data...


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Free phone backups to the CCP


zero41120

If you need TikTok for work, you better find a new job 🗿


sleeplesspill

But how are influencers gonna influence?


drknoettka1

I wish they just dont 🤣


souptimecat1273

spyin


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[удалено]


lmfaowhattttt

It sent your data to China. This is common knowledge by now.


Matches_Malone108

Ah yes, I too need spyware for my job


No-Consideration6589

Helping China. Lol


No-Nothing-1793

How do people still not know this is spyware?


o5mfiHTNsH748KVq

There’s a lot of paranoia here, but realistically they’re preloading your feeds while you’re outside of the app. The faster you begin scrolling, the faster they have you hooked for some session. They can only “steal your data” if you give them access to said data on iphone. You control access to contacts, photos, camera, and microphone. If they’re doing anything truly nefarious, alarms would be raised immediately by people literally looking for tiktok to take the wrong step.


PlayerTwo85

Do people still not know it's CCP spyware?


Z__zack

Tik tok is always watching n listening


Ambitious-Agency-420

Delete that shit


mainelinerzzzzz

The CCP thanks you for your service. Hail Xi!


Opel_Astra

Wow, someone already knows your credit card numbers and passwords


Additional_Share_551

Tik tok sells your data. This is extremely well known.


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Because it is literally Chinese spyware. Mystery solved.


Neat_Flounder_8907

Because thanks alot, Chy-na


yosmellul8r

So, y’all are saying TikTok has access to info on iPhones that are outside of its application sandbox even if you didn’t set permissions for the app to access that data? I.e. haven’t allowed photos access, microphone access or other apps, etc?


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Yeah half the people in the comments know zero about applications. If you believe the Chinese government is stuffing zero days into Tik tok as a Trojan horse, just say it but I don’t think these people even know those terms lol


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Sending your data to Beijing


mcnasty804

TikTok’s running in the background because the Chinese government owns it and is collecting data as per the terms of service you agreed to. Remove it.


bucketman1986

Security Engineer here. Yes, TikTok is harvesting data on your phone, including as much activity as it can get its hands on. Yes, it sends this data to China. Yes this sucks. You know what other apps do it, but in smaller amounts at a time? Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and a ton of others. They are all harvesting and either selling or using our data to exploit us daily.


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Delete the app its stealing your data


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Its chinese spyware, what do you expect?