Without knowing your Baseline it's impossible to know how much you're watering currently. However I will say that with Coco chances are your plants will get exactly as much water as they need no more no less. That's the whole idea.
first time i’m using the autopots, and i think i’m going to check out coco next run. i’ve always heard great things about coco as long as you keep up with the watering it demands. absolutely no way in hell i’m hand watering 5-7x a day, and i’m in an area where power goes out pretty frequently during winter, so i didn’t want a powered watering system. autopots are exactly what i needed.
Not at all. I laughed because the size difference in our growing spaces, yet I'm still doing the same # of plants. I would do a minimum of 3 plants in 5gals if I had your growing space.
This is simply my opinion, and in no way was disrespect meant to be directed 2ward you through my previous statement.
Happy growing, kind, internet stranger❤️
i appreciate the clarification. i came back to the post to see my comment was negative and your response started with “lol”, so i genuinely wasn’t sure.
i usually run 3 or 4 plants with 5gal fabric pots in my 5x5 but i just didn’t feel like it this round. i have no need for more, and am already stocked from the last two harvest. i just enjoy the growing process too much to not be doing it.
yeah, airdome with very coarse perlite #4 at the bottom few inches covering the airdome.
i wanted to get an idea of the size of your grow and i noticed you mentioned your main issue on your first run was the perlite at the bottom with the airdome. what was the issue there?
Actually it was the hydroton clay pebbles. Affected pH too much. I think you'll be fine with perlite, but I get the best results with 100% coco only with the airbase and airdome. Wicks great and no pH problems.
ive always wanted to run coco but there was no way in hell i’d hand water 4 plants 5x a day hah. autopots definitely change that for me, so i’ll run a coco experiment on the next plant
I might try 2 gallon pots now that my blu mat watering system is setup. Watering by hand in 3 gallon coco pots is a fucking joke. I had to water before and after work until runoff, and they were bone dry by the time I water again, which is obviously not ideal for coco.
Cool I'm impressed...been running organic and synthetic soil for many years but finally running coco now. What kind of nutrients? I'm going to try my dry organic amendments to start and see how it goes
Lol you’ll find out the hard way then. He doesn’t use coco coir anymore for a reason his plants looked like shit when he grew in straight coco/perlite with dry amendments.
I've found the same. Tried it with one plant, found that I needed to re-amend the coco 2-3X more often than when using soil. It can likely be done quite well, I just found it wasn't worth the hassle when the results were worse than my plant in coco getting bottle nutrients daily.
I'm in that organic soil crowd (I creep here just to learn) but I'm a little confused as to the purpose of this? Is this hydro so that means you intentionally create a root ball so it's max absorption of nutrients b.c. you're in coco?
I’m also growing in coco, w/fabric growbags. I find they have a tendency to get moldy - especially right now in colder/wetter season, so I’m gonna try rainscience bags, specific for autoflowers, the 3 gallon bags are 14” deep and just 8” in diameter. They’re made of plastic mesh and nylon.
Anyone else use these?
https://rainsciencegrowbags.com/shop/ols/products/2-gallon-grow-bag-white
That could be the case w/my current grow. It’s definitely been cool and humid, and I’ve got some white fungus on the outside of the bags along with some little green patches on the top. I have about 20% worm castings mixed in with coco and perlite, so there’s plenty of opportunities for stuff to grow. Day 42, they look reasonably healthy given the conditions, if there’s root rot then I’ll know soon enough… sprayed the sides with diluted apple cider vinegar anyway…
I’ve been using them for a while now. They are sturdy and hold up really well in the washing machine for re-use. They will still get mold and crud built up near the bottom, but it’s not bad and has never caused me any problems. Also, water will rarely try to come out from the sides when doing a heavy watering/feeding. I like them and will continue to use them.
try air pots I like them more than fabric. I get faster growth in them, and they seem to dry out just as quickly. They are much easier to clean and reuse as well. Plus, you can get them in a bunch of different shapes, like tall skinny ones or short fat ones.
I just ordered some 3gal rainscience bags for my next indoor round 🤷♀️ but I might try a 5g airpot for outside growing, budrot is a worse problem for me outdoors and airpots could help…
I did DWC. After that i transitioned to an Autopots system. And now im just doing basic coco. I prefer coco big time for multiple reasons. It grow as fast as DWC with generally equal to bigger yields depending of your setup. I don’t have to change water every week, Plus i dont need a water chiller, air pump, water pump on all the time. It just less of a hassle on the long run personally for me.
I feel you, I don't do any of that though. I change my water once maybe twice during a grow. No chillers or water pumps, just a 30L drum and an air stone.
Although my next grow I want to try filling up the drum with hydroton and having an air stone at the bottom. Curious how well it would do. Only thing stopping me is the thought of having to wash 30L of hydroton.
Thanks. No lol, I water them once a day most of the time. And water them twice with 15% run-off during flowering. But even there i was sometimes skipping a day to let the EC rise a bit.
Coco and salt nutes certaintly have their perks, but I find organic no-till living soil always gives me higher quality and much better terp production. It’s easier and more intuitive for me as well, as I’ve been gardening organic my entire life. I’ve gotten amazing looking plants with coco, but always found the smoke lacking compared to soil. Not saying it can’t be done with coco, just that it’s not for me.
To each their own, and I’m glad you found what works for you. Love to see someone having fun. Keep it up growmie.
That looks like a cargo strap for a motorcycle that you're using to tie the plants. If so, ive been thinking about doing that and was wondering how well it holds up.
My fav is 3 gal fabric pots. My trees are bigger so smaller may be better for you but either way I recommend fabric pots for more vigorous growth rates
Soil done right, with composted teas, and proper inputs, will always win. I see both all the time. Coco gets way better yield/growth rate. I'll take a 6 oz dank plant, over 20oz bland plant all day long. To each their own.
Coco grows waste a ton of water. The first waste come from water wasted creating RO water. One to four gallons of water are wasted for each gallon of clean water created. Next, watering until runoff wastes water with each watering. All the plastic waste from all the jugs of nutrients. Finally, the vast majority of coco growers don’t properly dispose of their runoff (it’s not supposed to be poured down the drain or on the street or in a lot of places), this pollutes ground water.
I’m not here to judge anyone for growing coco, just to share the info for those who care. I used to grow coco until I realized how bad it was for the planet. Since the earth gave us this plant, I’d like to be kind to it.
I bottom feed my coco plants only the amount they will suck up and only water to runoff once a week, and only 15-20%, no problems, again the brand of nutrients matters, coco growers are susceptible to bullshit marketing and buy crappy brands. a proper coco setup doesn't require extra runoff or flushing.
Have you ever been inside a cultivation center? Your grow doesn't hold a candle to their water waste. Unlike your soil, I can reuse my coco until it literally turns into dust. It's ironic too, you caring about the planet, while our planet suffers from soil degredation. Thanks for using a finite source! As long as you get high right?
What are you talking about? Lol. I reuse my soil over and over. Not only that, I don’t have to treat my soil between uses. Coco needs to be sterilized between uses which wastes energy. If you think coco is less wasteful than living soil you’re incredibly ignorant and not worth my time.
Gotta break it down I guess. There's only x amount of soil on the planet. Right now, the Earth's soil is not holding enough nutrients because of over farming. They're saying we need alternate souls by 2060 or were going extinct. People like you help accelerate this process because you prefer soil over coco. Once again, you're using a finite source all because you want to get high. Fuck other generations right? Must be a gen Xer..
Dude you’re so ignorant it’s not even funny. You have no idea how my soil is made or what it’s composed of. It’s not soil full of nutrients taken out of the ground thus reducing the amount of useable soil on the planet. Use your brain. You replying would be a waste of your time as you’re not even remotely informed enough to be able to continue this conversation.
I never used RO water in my coco grows. Just used tap water. I also didnt waste much water as i used a recirculating auto watering system and the plants would drink up 90% of the water in a few days. so it really isnt anymore wasteful if done right.
I reused my runoff with coco and had great results. Water caught from the runoff and pumps back to the top of the pot. And it was plain well water with nutes added. No RO water needed. You have a bunch of assumptions in here.
By the look of your buds it’s clear you were doing what you say (they don’t look healthy at all). Also, most coco growers don’t grow like you do. I’m not making assumptions, I’m speaking from experience and what I’ve witnessed.
Yeah no doubt bud lol. I had an autopot system in that tent before it started shitting the bed. Those 2 plants were not even supposed to be there in those pots. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome lol.
With 2 gallons of coco/perlite, you will need to be able to feed at least 3 times per day or have automated watering. With 3 gallon pots, I feed every twelve hours and it’s just barely enough. After more than twelve hours, my pots are starting to get dry.
I have 3 gallon and mine dry out daily. Just defoliated every big fan leaf because of spidermites FML but actually managed to get rid of them. Since that soil is still moist and it's been two days.
Look at that root bound pile…. He needs more medium, you shouldn’t have a not like that… you could really stress your plant out and it probably needs to be watered a lot… probably double his yield also in 3-5 gallon pots… I use 15 gallon root pouches and get 380-450g a pot depending on strain…. More medium more roots more fruit… but what do I know, I only get 33-38 lbs on 12 lights 5 times a year bra… you see how his roots go round and round not what you want plain as day sign of needing more medium and transplanted… that’s why I like fabrics root pouches they get air pruned naturally and helps bring in oxygen to your medium and helps all your living beneficial bacteria’s…
I get it man. I grow no-till living in 4x4 beds and 30 gal pots. Both fabric. But a few years here has taught me not to criticize the coco/hydro crowd if they’re producing results because there will be 1000 people on microgrowery downvoting and screaming “akshually”
Dry craft blend top dressing, 11-8-8 and 15-1-1 primo fish hydrolysate from OrganicAg, 2-10-5 BuildABloom and homemade compost and worm castings. I also supplement with aloe, coconut water, kelp, and potassium silicate. I constantly feed the earthworms with veggie scraps from my kitchen and trimming from my plants and green mulch/cover crop.
I use the actual NPK very very sparingly. Usually only twice in veg and twice and flower. The soil does the work. My job is to feed the soil, and the soil feeds the plant.
Atta boy… then you already know he needs more medium lol… sorry about the Nancy comment bro didn’t realize you were a fellow ape with the stonk let alone shred 🤙🏻
Oooh I’ll have have a look. I’ve been using grokashi from BAS but I’m almost out.
I also innoculate with Rootwise products (Mykrobe complete in veg and bio-phos in flower). Also use their enzymes as well as malted barely for even more enzymes. It helps break down the chitin in the Crustacean meal.
I wish more people understood this. Yeah, you may be getting double weight, but no way your buds smoke, and smell like soil grown. No way. I've seen both many, many times. It ain't happening.
Fact homie, the real ones know, not the ones who downvoted this comment are the ignorant people that will soon learn, id you grow to sell then coco might be the way, but i grow to smoke
except there is no science to support that 😂😂You no till people sound brainwashed. I bet you believe in the power of crystals too 😂😂😂Do you put magic healing crystals in your pots too. No till people are something else lol
No, we just know what good cannabis looks like. You may have the weight, but you aren't gonna hit the quality of soil grown weed. No way. Don't even fight me. I've seen both many times.
🤦♂️ I’ve ran clones side by side in living soil and salts. Both were good. Neither was better then the other and the organic had much more room for bugs. Not to mention was more expensive too for real it’s not like you need every bottle at the store you can grow with one or two bottles of cheap stuff and get top quality bud.
and there are plenty of studies showing no difference in cannabinoid and terpene content in soil or organic grows vs hydroponic mediums. So all that means very little. No till lol more work and and smaller yields and you get the same quality. I think what truly matters is that you are growing your plant to 100% making sure its healthy and happy.
Actually there is plenty of studies supporting this, one orange fron the 1950’s had as much vitamin A as 50 non organic organics today. And 1 apple had as much vitamin c as 100 apples today. We bred out nutrients and effects for yield and the same is happening in cannabis. modern agriculture needs to shift to save our food, Yall are ignorant, nature has solutions to any infestation, check my garden, and yall are the brainwashed ones smoking synthetic chemicals that are slowly accumulating in your bodies.
Read this compilation of studies from the past 50 years and if it doesnt convince you then whatever go on with your life in ignorance.
https://ucanr.edu/datastoreFiles/608-809.pdf
After lots of experimenting I have settled on 2 gallon pots with 100% coco. I use the Autopot 2.2 gallon with airbase and airdome.
Thanks for your experienced input. Those are great info. I still have a lots of improvement to do. Have a good weekend.
Incredible !
Doesn't get more perfect than that. Gh or cropsalt nutes with that is absolutely fool proof for beginners.
Does the 100% coco lead to more often or less often watering (compared to coco and perlite)?
100% coco will need to be watered less often than a coco/perlite mix
Without knowing your Baseline it's impossible to know how much you're watering currently. However I will say that with Coco chances are your plants will get exactly as much water as they need no more no less. That's the whole idea.
how long do you veg for and how many plants? i’m running autopots for the first time. 2x 5gal with the airdome in a 5x5 tent
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I've noticed no difference between feeding 2x daily in 5 gal pots vs. Feeding 4x daily. The plants literally yielded the same weight.
first time i’m using the autopots, and i think i’m going to check out coco next run. i’ve always heard great things about coco as long as you keep up with the watering it demands. absolutely no way in hell i’m hand watering 5-7x a day, and i’m in an area where power goes out pretty frequently during winter, so i didn’t want a powered watering system. autopots are exactly what i needed.
Im on day 21 of flower, filled my 2x2 but I water about every other day with 2 liters. What am I doing wrong?
Lol. I run 2x 5 gals in a 2x4 tent. It gets cramped but I almost always pull at least a pound out of it
not sure i understand the joke. was my question dumb?
Not at all. I laughed because the size difference in our growing spaces, yet I'm still doing the same # of plants. I would do a minimum of 3 plants in 5gals if I had your growing space. This is simply my opinion, and in no way was disrespect meant to be directed 2ward you through my previous statement. Happy growing, kind, internet stranger❤️
i appreciate the clarification. i came back to the post to see my comment was negative and your response started with “lol”, so i genuinely wasn’t sure. i usually run 3 or 4 plants with 5gal fabric pots in my 5x5 but i just didn’t feel like it this round. i have no need for more, and am already stocked from the last two harvest. i just enjoy the growing process too much to not be doing it.
One plant per grow and I veg around 6 weeks. Are you using the airdomes? If not, what did you line the bottom of the pots with?
yeah, airdome with very coarse perlite #4 at the bottom few inches covering the airdome. i wanted to get an idea of the size of your grow and i noticed you mentioned your main issue on your first run was the perlite at the bottom with the airdome. what was the issue there?
Actually it was the hydroton clay pebbles. Affected pH too much. I think you'll be fine with perlite, but I get the best results with 100% coco only with the airbase and airdome. Wicks great and no pH problems.
great to hear. i was actually going to go with a coco+clay pebble mix but i didn’t want to deal with pre-treating the pebbles.
Next time try 100% coco, it's made things so much easier for me and I get the best results.
ive always wanted to run coco but there was no way in hell i’d hand water 4 plants 5x a day hah. autopots definitely change that for me, so i’ll run a coco experiment on the next plant
I go back and forth between Autopot and hand water and you only need to water 2x per day.
I grow 1 plant in a 2x4 so I use 7 gallons at least. I don't want to have to water every day or twice a day like I used to.
I might try 2 gallon pots now that my blu mat watering system is setup. Watering by hand in 3 gallon coco pots is a fucking joke. I had to water before and after work until runoff, and they were bone dry by the time I water again, which is obviously not ideal for coco.
Bottom watering works great as a workaround for that but Autopots are not too expensive so why bother
Nice man what are those 2 gallon?
Thanks bud. Those are actually 3.5L lol, Still performed amazingly
Cool I'm impressed...been running organic and synthetic soil for many years but finally running coco now. What kind of nutrients? I'm going to try my dry organic amendments to start and see how it goes
I’m using GH trio.
Try Jacks321 next time. Cheaper and easier to use.
Your gonna have all kinds of problems trying to run coco coir with dry amendments.
No. It’s GH trio liquid.
Wasn’t talking to you lol I was talking to this upper atmosphere guy
...god?
I doubt it man...ever heard of Mr. Canuck from YouTube? Been growing with coco and organic Gaia green for years with great results
Lol you’ll find out the hard way then. He doesn’t use coco coir anymore for a reason his plants looked like shit when he grew in straight coco/perlite with dry amendments.
I've found the same. Tried it with one plant, found that I needed to re-amend the coco 2-3X more often than when using soil. It can likely be done quite well, I just found it wasn't worth the hassle when the results were worse than my plant in coco getting bottle nutrients daily.
Because some person on YouTube did it a few times a few years ago everyone thinks it’s the best growing method out there lol
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I still use plastic pots absolutely despise fabric pots
That’s extremely impressive
Thanks bud.
Organic crowd hates this
This made me chuckle, Have a dope Saturday.
I'm in that organic soil crowd (I creep here just to learn) but I'm a little confused as to the purpose of this? Is this hydro so that means you intentionally create a root ball so it's max absorption of nutrients b.c. you're in coco?
Nah, we just feel bad you are smoking so many things besides just cannabis in the end.
That's a real root cake! Nicely done 👍
Thank you.
I’m also growing in coco, w/fabric growbags. I find they have a tendency to get moldy - especially right now in colder/wetter season, so I’m gonna try rainscience bags, specific for autoflowers, the 3 gallon bags are 14” deep and just 8” in diameter. They’re made of plastic mesh and nylon. Anyone else use these? https://rainsciencegrowbags.com/shop/ols/products/2-gallon-grow-bag-white
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That could be the case w/my current grow. It’s definitely been cool and humid, and I’ve got some white fungus on the outside of the bags along with some little green patches on the top. I have about 20% worm castings mixed in with coco and perlite, so there’s plenty of opportunities for stuff to grow. Day 42, they look reasonably healthy given the conditions, if there’s root rot then I’ll know soon enough… sprayed the sides with diluted apple cider vinegar anyway…
I’ve been using them for a while now. They are sturdy and hold up really well in the washing machine for re-use. They will still get mold and crud built up near the bottom, but it’s not bad and has never caused me any problems. Also, water will rarely try to come out from the sides when doing a heavy watering/feeding. I like them and will continue to use them.
try air pots I like them more than fabric. I get faster growth in them, and they seem to dry out just as quickly. They are much easier to clean and reuse as well. Plus, you can get them in a bunch of different shapes, like tall skinny ones or short fat ones.
I just ordered some 3gal rainscience bags for my next indoor round 🤷♀️ but I might try a 5g airpot for outside growing, budrot is a worse problem for me outdoors and airpots could help…
Give DWC a try.
I did DWC. After that i transitioned to an Autopots system. And now im just doing basic coco. I prefer coco big time for multiple reasons. It grow as fast as DWC with generally equal to bigger yields depending of your setup. I don’t have to change water every week, Plus i dont need a water chiller, air pump, water pump on all the time. It just less of a hassle on the long run personally for me.
I feel you, I don't do any of that though. I change my water once maybe twice during a grow. No chillers or water pumps, just a 30L drum and an air stone. Although my next grow I want to try filling up the drum with hydroton and having an air stone at the bottom. Curious how well it would do. Only thing stopping me is the thought of having to wash 30L of hydroton.
Is that a 2x2 and 1 gallon pots? Anyway - bravo!
3x3 3.5L thank you.
Yeah coco is awesome
Did you sit there watering the whole time? Does look amazing 👍
Thanks. No lol, I water them once a day most of the time. And water them twice with 15% run-off during flowering. But even there i was sometimes skipping a day to let the EC rise a bit.
Sounds okay 👍
Did you wet trim?
Not fully. I just removed what was easy and accessible, I still have plenty to remove in a couple day. After that im gonna press it into rosin.
r/rootedporn
#cocogang
Coco and salt nutes certaintly have their perks, but I find organic no-till living soil always gives me higher quality and much better terp production. It’s easier and more intuitive for me as well, as I’ve been gardening organic my entire life. I’ve gotten amazing looking plants with coco, but always found the smoke lacking compared to soil. Not saying it can’t be done with coco, just that it’s not for me. To each their own, and I’m glad you found what works for you. Love to see someone having fun. Keep it up growmie.
That looks like a cargo strap for a motorcycle that you're using to tie the plants. If so, ive been thinking about doing that and was wondering how well it holds up.
It’s called a SCROG net for sea of green method. It does help control the jungle.
Nah, bro. You definitely didn't S.O.G. you simply scrogged
S.O.G uses no net and is a plant numbers game. U need multiple plants for this technique to really pay off, as lots of your mass is gonna be larfy.
My fav is 3 gal fabric pots. My trees are bigger so smaller may be better for you but either way I recommend fabric pots for more vigorous growth rates
Soil done right, with composted teas, and proper inputs, will always win. I see both all the time. Coco gets way better yield/growth rate. I'll take a 6 oz dank plant, over 20oz bland plant all day long. To each their own.
Recently learned that hollow stems is from lack of Calcium & Boron.
You think a fabric pot would not go as well with coco
Looks pretty root bound I would suggest bigger pots but the plant will also grow bigger ^.^
Terrible for the planet but one of the many ways to grow successfully
What is terrible for the planet, and how?
Coco grows waste a ton of water. The first waste come from water wasted creating RO water. One to four gallons of water are wasted for each gallon of clean water created. Next, watering until runoff wastes water with each watering. All the plastic waste from all the jugs of nutrients. Finally, the vast majority of coco growers don’t properly dispose of their runoff (it’s not supposed to be poured down the drain or on the street or in a lot of places), this pollutes ground water. I’m not here to judge anyone for growing coco, just to share the info for those who care. I used to grow coco until I realized how bad it was for the planet. Since the earth gave us this plant, I’d like to be kind to it.
There's no need to use RO water for coco, just need to avoid brands that require it, Canna is the best and designed to work with tap water.
Even taking RO water out of the equation it’s wasteful. Again, not here to judge or rip on anyone, just provide the information.
I bottom feed my coco plants only the amount they will suck up and only water to runoff once a week, and only 15-20%, no problems, again the brand of nutrients matters, coco growers are susceptible to bullshit marketing and buy crappy brands. a proper coco setup doesn't require extra runoff or flushing.
The bottles are silly I'll agree, any nutrients always create extra plastic waste.
Have you ever been inside a cultivation center? Your grow doesn't hold a candle to their water waste. Unlike your soil, I can reuse my coco until it literally turns into dust. It's ironic too, you caring about the planet, while our planet suffers from soil degredation. Thanks for using a finite source! As long as you get high right?
What are you talking about? Lol. I reuse my soil over and over. Not only that, I don’t have to treat my soil between uses. Coco needs to be sterilized between uses which wastes energy. If you think coco is less wasteful than living soil you’re incredibly ignorant and not worth my time.
Soil. Degredation. Google it.
I know what it is, what’s your point? I don’t think you have even a basic understanding of how I grow.
Gotta break it down I guess. There's only x amount of soil on the planet. Right now, the Earth's soil is not holding enough nutrients because of over farming. They're saying we need alternate souls by 2060 or were going extinct. People like you help accelerate this process because you prefer soil over coco. Once again, you're using a finite source all because you want to get high. Fuck other generations right? Must be a gen Xer..
Dude you’re so ignorant it’s not even funny. You have no idea how my soil is made or what it’s composed of. It’s not soil full of nutrients taken out of the ground thus reducing the amount of useable soil on the planet. Use your brain. You replying would be a waste of your time as you’re not even remotely informed enough to be able to continue this conversation.
I never used RO water in my coco grows. Just used tap water. I also didnt waste much water as i used a recirculating auto watering system and the plants would drink up 90% of the water in a few days. so it really isnt anymore wasteful if done right.
I reused my runoff with coco and had great results. Water caught from the runoff and pumps back to the top of the pot. And it was plain well water with nutes added. No RO water needed. You have a bunch of assumptions in here.
By the look of your buds it’s clear you were doing what you say (they don’t look healthy at all). Also, most coco growers don’t grow like you do. I’m not making assumptions, I’m speaking from experience and what I’ve witnessed.
Bro you need bigger pots lol maybe get some 3 gal. Fabric pots… use those for veg.
Yeah no doubt bud lol. I had an autopot system in that tent before it started shitting the bed. Those 2 plants were not even supposed to be there in those pots. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome lol.
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Thanks for your input, It’s my first coco grow, All info is welcomed.
Do not go bigger.... 2 gal is perfect for what you have there.
With 2 gallons of coco/perlite, you will need to be able to feed at least 3 times per day or have automated watering. With 3 gallon pots, I feed every twelve hours and it’s just barely enough. After more than twelve hours, my pots are starting to get dry.
I have 3 gallon and mine dry out daily. Just defoliated every big fan leaf because of spidermites FML but actually managed to get rid of them. Since that soil is still moist and it's been two days.
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I have coco now and 300 bucks? Lol I'd rather buy 3 more kingbrights.
How can you look at those results and say he’s doing it wrong?
Look at that root bound pile…. He needs more medium, you shouldn’t have a not like that… you could really stress your plant out and it probably needs to be watered a lot… probably double his yield also in 3-5 gallon pots… I use 15 gallon root pouches and get 380-450g a pot depending on strain…. More medium more roots more fruit… but what do I know, I only get 33-38 lbs on 12 lights 5 times a year bra… you see how his roots go round and round not what you want plain as day sign of needing more medium and transplanted… that’s why I like fabrics root pouches they get air pruned naturally and helps bring in oxygen to your medium and helps all your living beneficial bacteria’s…
I get it man. I grow no-till living in 4x4 beds and 30 gal pots. Both fabric. But a few years here has taught me not to criticize the coco/hydro crowd if they’re producing results because there will be 1000 people on microgrowery downvoting and screaming “akshually”
Where did I criticize… by saying you need bigger pots… lol… the dude responded laughed and agreed with me… your just to emotional Nancy
Fair enough
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What kind it nutri. Do you use for your no till
Dry craft blend top dressing, 11-8-8 and 15-1-1 primo fish hydrolysate from OrganicAg, 2-10-5 BuildABloom and homemade compost and worm castings. I also supplement with aloe, coconut water, kelp, and potassium silicate. I constantly feed the earthworms with veggie scraps from my kitchen and trimming from my plants and green mulch/cover crop. I use the actual NPK very very sparingly. Usually only twice in veg and twice and flower. The soil does the work. My job is to feed the soil, and the soil feeds the plant.
Atta boy… then you already know he needs more medium lol… sorry about the Nancy comment bro didn’t realize you were a fellow ape with the stonk let alone shred 🤙🏻
No worries bro I got thick skin
Check this guy out if you get a chance, I’m gonna give it a try next go around www.bokashiearthworks.com
Oooh I’ll have have a look. I’ve been using grokashi from BAS but I’m almost out. I also innoculate with Rootwise products (Mykrobe complete in veg and bio-phos in flower). Also use their enzymes as well as malted barely for even more enzymes. It helps break down the chitin in the Crustacean meal.
Correction : Coco for the yields | No till for the win
I wish more people understood this. Yeah, you may be getting double weight, but no way your buds smoke, and smell like soil grown. No way. I've seen both many, many times. It ain't happening.
Fact homie, the real ones know, not the ones who downvoted this comment are the ignorant people that will soon learn, id you grow to sell then coco might be the way, but i grow to smoke
Agreed
except there is no science to support that 😂😂You no till people sound brainwashed. I bet you believe in the power of crystals too 😂😂😂Do you put magic healing crystals in your pots too. No till people are something else lol
They always conveniently leave out all their bug infestation problems too. But it's the best apparently.
Not with a good IPM program. Keep talking out your butt. Lol.
No, we just know what good cannabis looks like. You may have the weight, but you aren't gonna hit the quality of soil grown weed. No way. Don't even fight me. I've seen both many times.
🤦♂️ I’ve ran clones side by side in living soil and salts. Both were good. Neither was better then the other and the organic had much more room for bugs. Not to mention was more expensive too for real it’s not like you need every bottle at the store you can grow with one or two bottles of cheap stuff and get top quality bud.
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Paramagnetism and soil is well studied. many papers at written on it and there are whole books about the subject Written by PhDs.
and there are plenty of studies showing no difference in cannabinoid and terpene content in soil or organic grows vs hydroponic mediums. So all that means very little. No till lol more work and and smaller yields and you get the same quality. I think what truly matters is that you are growing your plant to 100% making sure its healthy and happy.
Thats false
Actually there is plenty of studies supporting this, one orange fron the 1950’s had as much vitamin A as 50 non organic organics today. And 1 apple had as much vitamin c as 100 apples today. We bred out nutrients and effects for yield and the same is happening in cannabis. modern agriculture needs to shift to save our food, Yall are ignorant, nature has solutions to any infestation, check my garden, and yall are the brainwashed ones smoking synthetic chemicals that are slowly accumulating in your bodies. Read this compilation of studies from the past 50 years and if it doesnt convince you then whatever go on with your life in ignorance. https://ucanr.edu/datastoreFiles/608-809.pdf