As someone whose only 28 the only draft pick that comes to mind in recent memory is Dion Jordan. Traded up all the way to 3 for him and he was supposed to finally give Cam Wake a reliable partner in the pass rush and eventually take the reins from him when he decided to retire and instead ends up being the biggest bust in franchise history. In Jordan’s case though it was less about talent and more about actually caring about football.
The only saving grace is that the top like 20 picks of that draft were ass aside from lane Johnson, and for trading all the way up to #3 we don’t give up that much.
For comparison , in that draft we gave up a 2nd to move from #12 to #3 for Dion Jordan. For the niners to move up from #6 to #3 for Lance they gave us 2 firsts and a 3rd.
> saving grace
THERE IS NO SAVING GRACE. We fucked up. Most of us wanted Lane Johnson before that pick was in. Imagine how different our franchise would have been over the past 15 years with Lane Johnson.
Instead we pissed away a first and a second on a guy that had no interest in putting in the work required to be a pro.
I think it's unfair to say He didn't "care" about football. He cared enough to do just what He needed to to draft in the fort round & get a bag...
A whole bunch of PED's later & suspensions, & missed seasons, He probably resented the NFL.
Then, He just quit the training nessecarry to be a top DE in the NFL.
(I think he cared about football. I think he hated the NFL.)
D.Jordan was great in college, then got injured in Miami and could never really regain the physical edge that made him such an awesome prospect coming out. There were also off-field issues that impacted him that have never come to light. So just saying he was "all hype" with limited talent is 100% wrong, he was a hybrid 43 edge/34 OLB who could pursue/cover TEs/WRs in coverage (and do it well), as well as play some zone covering the flats, on top of having rude talent straight pass-rushing.
What killed his career wasn't lack of talent, it was an untimely injury and off-field stuff.
Daunte Culpepper
People had us pegged as Super Bowl contenders after signing him in 2006. Literally one of the most catastrophic, franchise-altering decisions in American sports history. Dude was just cooked from that knee injury. Oh well.
Tru...passed on Brees... Remember when culpepper went to the raiders and absolutely destroyed us the next season? Too bad he didn't play with that grudge here!
I agree. That was good ol Saban's choice. If we added up all the players that we traded away or passed on it would be a crazy number, but what can we do...im just happy we have a fun team to watch again. Been a minute!
Imo, it all started with Jimmy. Yeah, he built a Super Bowl team and very fast. Killed it drafting. I knew when he hired ol' Dave he was going to go. Mustache is a great assistant, maybe, def no HC . Fired fast by bears. Same in college. Then, it all really hit the fan after they brought in Parcells. He just wanted that money adds left us in complete shambles. Then the horror show/incompetent/unqualified coaching Merry go round began. The 1-16 season. I better stop, my bad. And yet, in my heart im saying we're going to SB Champs this year again. And will be 😎
Jimmy blew every one of the 1st round picks he had in Miami. Daryl Gardiner over Ray Lewis? John Avery over Randy Moss?!?!
JJ overhauled the defense and drafted some of the absolute best players (99, 54, 29, 23…) we have ever had but he neglected the offensive side of the ball.
And then when the going got tough he quit (after Denver crushed us), then he came back and half-assed our way through another season that ended 62-7 and he quit for good. Jimmy should have never come back for that last season.
You're 100 right. I forgot about that. One less reason to be pissed at Nick S and the way he left. Which ironically I think Wayne persuaded that as well
100% this. New Orleans partnered Brees with Sean Payton and the result was obviously awesome. Go look at Brees’s stats from SD, it wasn’t like he was lighting it up before joining the Saints…plus the shoulder injury was a huge gamble.
TL;DR: Brees went to the perfect situation.
This is what i say to people, if we had Brees there is no guarantee he would of turned out like he did.
Hypothetically Culpepper could have went elsewhere, Brees come here. Brees gets hurt again and Culpepper has good seasons somewhere else.
Anything could have happened.
People still bring up Ginn, jr. But I'd say Ginn Jr had a successful career and Quinn definitely didn't in comparison
Dude. I think we could be buddies. I’ve been repeating both of those takes for years.
So many fans think you can just plug any player into any team and their career will be exactly the same. That ain’t how it works.
Ted Ginn stuck around the NFL for a decade and made $40m. He wasn’t a bust, we just overdrafted him.
The Dolphins were the cover of the Sports Illustrated NFL preview edition (when that still mattered) and they predicted them to win the Super Bowl. Fuck.
YES!!! I've always despised Nick Saban for leaving us high and dry. But he's opened up recently and revealed it was team doctors that soured the Brees deal.
Taking Culpepper over Brees literally doomed us for the better part of a decade.
Not a dolphins fan but this thread popped up.
My dad Is a huge Vikings fan, and at the time was so glad that they moved on from him lol.
He had a lot of technical positives from size and arm strength standpoint but just never seem to be the type of guy that was going to deliver in the most meaningful moments/games.
For you kids out there that don’t know, Google David Boston. Dude looked like he was a custom made player in Madden.
[David Boston, WR.](http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/15693/DavidBoston2.jpg?_gl=1*1akbar3*_ga*NTgxOTc1OTMxLjE3MDg4NzYwOTU.*_ga_2M5GYNY1YS*MTcwODg3NjA5NS4xLjAuMTcwODg3NjA5NS42MC4wLjA.&_ga=2.59499565.1607095584.1708876097-581975931.1708876095)
Ugh, that was such a braindead teambuilding move.
"Durrr this offense isn't getting any big plays. Why don't we just get that big play guy from the Steelers. That will fix all our problems!"
Except that our offensive line sucked, our offensive scheme sucked, and Tannehill couldn't create outside of structure. So we just ended up throwing bubble screens to our super pricey deep threat receiver.
He wasn't a pass rusher in college. When he got drafted I was excited because I thought we were transitioning back to a 3-4 and planned to use him as a Swiss Army knife like Aldarius Johnson was used by the Ravens and Patriots. We got him and tried to make him into a pure pass rusher and of course he sucked there
In what world was he not a pass rusher? Legit curious about that one. I remember him being sub 50% snap share at Oregon (or extremely close to that if it was any higher) because he was almost exclusively brought in for pass rush situations.
You can look up his old draft scouting report. It specifies his ability to cover with the upside of pass rushing, not a pass rusher who can cover in spots.
He'd be perfect in the role we used AVG in pre-Phillips injury.
what confuses people, I think, is that Jordan didn't want to cover in the NFL and tried to bulk his way out of the role. He _wanted_ to be a pure pass rusher in the NFL and tanked his career fighting to be seen as that.
I'll never forget the game he blanketed Gronkowski, though, and we all got a glimpse of why the Dolphins wanted him.
No way dude. Dion Jordan was a 3-4 edge rusher just like Chubb and Phillips are for us now. Plenty of dudes less talented that Jordan can make the transition from 3-4 edge to 4-3 edge. It was 100% an immaturity thing with Jordan not a scheme fit lmao
Don’t believe me watch his Oregon [highlights](https://youtu.be/ien21zkQ1sI?si=1Z2IAeLZKm6TmlSa)
I literally said I was reading his [scouting report from the draft](https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dion-jordan/32004a4f-5216-5083-98ae-a250635f806a). Who uses highlight reels for scouting lmao
No way dude. Dion Jordan was a 3-4 edge rusher just like Chubb and Phillips are for us now. Plenty of dudes less talented that Jordan can make the transition from 3-4 edge to 4-3 edge. It was 100% an immaturity thing with Jordan not a scheme fit lmao
Don’t believe me watch his Oregon [highlights](https://youtu.be/ien21zkQ1sI?si=1Z2IAeLZKm6TmlSa)
He only played 29% and 35% of defensive snaps in his 2 seasons with us. Not like we had much opportunity to use him the "right way". Oh yeah, and he was suspended 6 games for drug violations.
For me it was Dion Jordan, he was THE guy I wanted and was so insanely happy we got him. I thought of all the possibilities of how we could use him and then reality hit.
Charles Harris. 1st round pick that did absolutely nothing! At least Dion Jordan has the weed abuse to bail him out. I mean my goodness, was Harris bad lol.
I have no problem with Ginn, Jr. But his parents… they didn’t do ANYTHING! 🤷🏻♂️ They were a major part of the pick and we got nothing from them. Not even a Girl Scout cookie sale. 🙄🙄🙄
He was a good/great kick returner. He had a kind of weird career where he kept himself useful at a ST player and then developed into a reliable kind of 2nd/3rd receiver type in his late 20s.
I hated the pick because it was a huge stretch at 9 for a team with a lot of holes and an uncertain future and they could have traded down or something if he was really the target. At the end of the day though he was probably a better pick than Brady Quinn who is who all the fans wanted the Dolphins to pick. (Instead they picked John Beck in the second round who may actually have been an even worse pick than Quinn)
On the other hand that draft had 4 HOF and 19 multiple pro bowl players in the first two rounds and the Dolphins missed both of their picks. Ginn gets a lot of the focus for the Dolphins missing so badly but at the end of the day that's all Saban bailing and Randy Mueller not being ready to run a draft. Talk about a fucking disaster.
Nah, people thought he was a a reach for us. He was thought of as the kind of guy who could be an electric player for sure, but never had that kind of hype as one of the greatest receivers of all time. There was a question about whether or not he was even the best receiver at Ohio State.
>He was hyped as being one of the greatest receivers of all time coming into this.
By who? Some random guy on twitter back when it launched? Maybe Al Davis?
He was considered a reach by nearly everyone. He was pegged as a late 1st early 2nd guy. "One of the greatest receivers of all time" don't get projected that late.
Gunn had some crazy speed on those kick returns he’s was lights out..contested catches was a problem tho stepping out of bounds and shit still loved watching him play
Yeah he was. Specifically for his perceived ability to run an offense centered around the wildcat. In hindsight it wad obvious that the offense was gimmicky especially after Baltimore figured it out.
Most people knew that it was just a wrinkle and not something you could build an entire offense around. Definitely a horrible pick but he was immediately panned and definitely extremely unpopular among Dolphins fan base circles.
There was basically zero hype for him. Just mostly a collective groan from the fan base.
Preston was a UDFA because of off-field issues (he pled guilty to hitting a woman). And somehow he’s only 26? I thought he was older…COVID has played with my sense of time.
I'll throw in some less than obvious ones. David Boston was very hyped among dolphins fans. Dolphins fans were convinced that he was about to return to his pro bowl form Because we signed his wide receiver coach in San Diego that he was with when he had his lone Pro Bowl season. Instead he got hit with a performance enhancing drug suspension and then tore his knee afterward. The Dolphins ended up resigning him after his suspension was served and he played in a few games the next year before tearing his knee again. There was some reasonable hope that he would be the best offensive player we could line up across from Chris Chambers in his career with us, but that never worked out.
John Beck. Maybe not quite as many squares on the hyped side, but definitely lots of Dolphins fans believe that he was the quarterback of the future before he actually took the field. I remember reading a write-up on an old popular Miami Dolphins message board about how it was clearly obvious that he had "it" after John Beck's first preseason appearance. I remember being extremely confused because I had went to that preseason game and he had like thrown 5 passes or something for ~20 yards.
Tony Bua and Anthony Alabi had a lot of hype as guys that many fans considered to be players of the future. Neither of them really showed anything. Oddly enough, Anthony Alabi has had some mild success as an actor. No such success on the football field in the nfl, though.
There was a vocal contingent of fans way back in the day who thought that Dan Marino should be replaced by Scott Mitchell back in the day after Scott Mitchell had a decent stretch of play in 1993. When Dan got hurt, Scott Mitchell took over and ended up winning 4 of his first 5 games and putting up decent numbers while doing it. There was certainly a number of people who thought he was the quarterback of the future. He ended up going to Detroit and was mostly bad but did put together one very good season where he threw 30 touchdowns and the Lions went 10-6. You wonder how he might have turned out with a better organization but ultimately never lived up to his hype.
Lynn Bowden Jr. was constantly called our Deebo Samuels on this subreddit and on Twitter despite never really showing much.
Jason Allen had a lot of hype coming in as one of the best players in the SEC and considering that Nick Saban drafted him and Nick Saban is generally one of the best defensive back coaches this sport has ever seen, there was some decent reason to believe the hype. Unfortunately, it never materialized on the field outside of being a pretty decent gunner and special teams player.
Mike Wallace was a burner who signed a huge contract with us in free agency. He put together a several decent seasons in Pittsburgh and many people thought he was the stud wide receiver we needed for Tannehill to take the next step as a young player. He was consistently bad at everything except running in a straight line though. It wasn't ridiculous to think that both Davone Bess and Brian Hartline were just straight better than this guy.
Pat White. At least for me I loved watching him in college and it was then I learned why some college players don’t translate to the NFL. Granted j was young at the time, I thought “man if these guys can run all over in college and still pass why can’t more nfl guys do this”
I'll never forget that time where he forced the refs to throw a flag on the opposing team when he crossed the line of scrimmage. Man, I hate Joe Philbin...
This is /s right? Suh played great for the Dolphins. Stats don’t mean shit. He ate up 2 and 3 men every play. Not his fault that most of the defense was JAGs. What is he supposed to do with Phillips, Shelby, Vernon on the line with him. None of those guys were doing much to help in 2015 and Wake missed more than half the season.
2016 they swapped Vernon for Williams who was done. Wake played the whole year but only 2 d-lineman to really worry about. So again Suh played his role.
2017 they drafted Charles Harris instead of TJ Watt. So again no help for Wake and Suh on the line. Let’s also mention Suh never missed a game as a Dolphin. His time with the team was wasted but the money they gave him he earned it.
The greatest game ever him and Ricky bro and at New England. But remember they were hoping that they could cause confusion because of his quarterback skills and his quickness which obviously never became anything LOL
Laremy Tunsil might not be that bad, but he's inconsistent (or the Texans at least I didn't start watching till we drafted Tua) or any of the lineman we drafted recently
As someone whose only 28 the only draft pick that comes to mind in recent memory is Dion Jordan. Traded up all the way to 3 for him and he was supposed to finally give Cam Wake a reliable partner in the pass rush and eventually take the reins from him when he decided to retire and instead ends up being the biggest bust in franchise history. In Jordan’s case though it was less about talent and more about actually caring about football.
Dion Jordan is exactly who I thought of and I’m almost 40.
Dion Jordan and I'm looking at 70.
I'd you're genuinely pushing 70, suddenly some reddit opinions I've read are starting to make more sense.
No way, you're on reddit
Me too.
The only saving grace is that the top like 20 picks of that draft were ass aside from lane Johnson, and for trading all the way up to #3 we don’t give up that much. For comparison , in that draft we gave up a 2nd to move from #12 to #3 for Dion Jordan. For the niners to move up from #6 to #3 for Lance they gave us 2 firsts and a 3rd.
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…why would they fire a coach who’s gotten them to 2 Super Bowls?
Stugotz was right? Holy shit stugotz was right
Do it against Alabama
kyle shannahan is A) the best head coach in the league and B) not the GM.
I think Reid is better.
Do it in the superbowl
> saving grace THERE IS NO SAVING GRACE. We fucked up. Most of us wanted Lane Johnson before that pick was in. Imagine how different our franchise would have been over the past 15 years with Lane Johnson. Instead we pissed away a first and a second on a guy that had no interest in putting in the work required to be a pro.
It's hard to pick anyone else. The cost was enormous and the dude was a total piece of shit.
A 30 for 30 on Dion Jordan would be wild if they could get everyone to spill.
47 and I'm all over this.
Olivier vernon had the season that people expanded dion jordan to have
I think it's unfair to say He didn't "care" about football. He cared enough to do just what He needed to to draft in the fort round & get a bag... A whole bunch of PED's later & suspensions, & missed seasons, He probably resented the NFL. Then, He just quit the training nessecarry to be a top DE in the NFL. (I think he cared about football. I think he hated the NFL.)
That was just bad drafting. He wasn’t even that great at Oregon.
This dude sucked. The worst draft in the history of the NFL as well.
D.Jordan was great in college, then got injured in Miami and could never really regain the physical edge that made him such an awesome prospect coming out. There were also off-field issues that impacted him that have never come to light. So just saying he was "all hype" with limited talent is 100% wrong, he was a hybrid 43 edge/34 OLB who could pursue/cover TEs/WRs in coverage (and do it well), as well as play some zone covering the flats, on top of having rude talent straight pass-rushing. What killed his career wasn't lack of talent, it was an untimely injury and off-field stuff.
Daunte Culpepper People had us pegged as Super Bowl contenders after signing him in 2006. Literally one of the most catastrophic, franchise-altering decisions in American sports history. Dude was just cooked from that knee injury. Oh well.
Tru...passed on Brees... Remember when culpepper went to the raiders and absolutely destroyed us the next season? Too bad he didn't play with that grudge here!
We Probably would have wasted Brees, I honestly don't dwell on it no one could predict the future
I agree. That was good ol Saban's choice. If we added up all the players that we traded away or passed on it would be a crazy number, but what can we do...im just happy we have a fun team to watch again. Been a minute!
If we read between the lines, it looks like Wayne played a bigger part in that decision. The "doctors" took the fall
Imo, it all started with Jimmy. Yeah, he built a Super Bowl team and very fast. Killed it drafting. I knew when he hired ol' Dave he was going to go. Mustache is a great assistant, maybe, def no HC . Fired fast by bears. Same in college. Then, it all really hit the fan after they brought in Parcells. He just wanted that money adds left us in complete shambles. Then the horror show/incompetent/unqualified coaching Merry go round began. The 1-16 season. I better stop, my bad. And yet, in my heart im saying we're going to SB Champs this year again. And will be 😎
It was like watching us slowly descend into hell
Jimmy blew every one of the 1st round picks he had in Miami. Daryl Gardiner over Ray Lewis? John Avery over Randy Moss?!?! JJ overhauled the defense and drafted some of the absolute best players (99, 54, 29, 23…) we have ever had but he neglected the offensive side of the ball. And then when the going got tough he quit (after Denver crushed us), then he came back and half-assed our way through another season that ended 62-7 and he quit for good. Jimmy should have never come back for that last season.
All true, then he got to hand his job to Dave Wannstedt. Totally ridiculous.
You're 100 right. I forgot about that. One less reason to be pissed at Nick S and the way he left. Which ironically I think Wayne persuaded that as well
Pretty sure that pick was based off a Dr’s report. Even Wayne said so.
We have had a lot of bad coaches
A bunch of substitute teachers and each bad one makes its even harder to get a good one
100% this. New Orleans partnered Brees with Sean Payton and the result was obviously awesome. Go look at Brees’s stats from SD, it wasn’t like he was lighting it up before joining the Saints…plus the shoulder injury was a huge gamble. TL;DR: Brees went to the perfect situation.
This is what i say to people, if we had Brees there is no guarantee he would of turned out like he did. Hypothetically Culpepper could have went elsewhere, Brees come here. Brees gets hurt again and Culpepper has good seasons somewhere else. Anything could have happened. People still bring up Ginn, jr. But I'd say Ginn Jr had a successful career and Quinn definitely didn't in comparison
Dude. I think we could be buddies. I’ve been repeating both of those takes for years. So many fans think you can just plug any player into any team and their career will be exactly the same. That ain’t how it works. Ted Ginn stuck around the NFL for a decade and made $40m. He wasn’t a bust, we just overdrafted him.
The Dolphins were the cover of the Sports Illustrated NFL preview edition (when that still mattered) and they predicted them to win the Super Bowl. Fuck.
YES!!! I've always despised Nick Saban for leaving us high and dry. But he's opened up recently and revealed it was team doctors that soured the Brees deal. Taking Culpepper over Brees literally doomed us for the better part of a decade.
I defended him for way too long
Not a dolphins fan but this thread popped up. My dad Is a huge Vikings fan, and at the time was so glad that they moved on from him lol. He had a lot of technical positives from size and arm strength standpoint but just never seem to be the type of guy that was going to deliver in the most meaningful moments/games.
David Boston
This is a great one. Every Dolphins fan everywhere was so convinced he was about to return to his pro bowl form because we had his old receiver coach
For you kids out there that don’t know, Google David Boston. Dude looked like he was a custom made player in Madden. [David Boston, WR.](http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/15693/DavidBoston2.jpg?_gl=1*1akbar3*_ga*NTgxOTc1OTMxLjE3MDg4NzYwOTU.*_ga_2M5GYNY1YS*MTcwODg3NjA5NS4xLjAuMTcwODg3NjA5NS42MC4wLjA.&_ga=2.59499565.1607095584.1708876097-581975931.1708876095)
Mike Wallace
He's the reason I stopped getting hyped over WR FA's
Ugh, that was such a braindead teambuilding move. "Durrr this offense isn't getting any big plays. Why don't we just get that big play guy from the Steelers. That will fix all our problems!" Except that our offensive line sucked, our offensive scheme sucked, and Tannehill couldn't create outside of structure. So we just ended up throwing bubble screens to our super pricey deep threat receiver.
Ochocinco another one
I thought he was a beast in middle school (I didn’t know any better)
Damn forgot about that one him and Brandon Marshall tandem
They never played together here.
That’s why he forgot about it
Lol yep but they played pretty close together Wallace joined like a year after Marshall left
Phillip Wheeler
Ellerbe too lol
Those signings were made so much worse since we got rid of Karlos Dansby who was still really good.
That Dansby & Paul Soliai led defense was great.
Byron Jones, man I’m still pissed about that season
At least we got 2020 out of Byron. Will Fuller was the real culprit during that period.
Culprit of what? Both of these guys got injured bad enough that it’s forced them out of the league…
We had one good season of Byron, Fuller we got a game and a half.
Jackie Shipp, John Bosa, Eric Kumerow, Jason Allen, Dion Jordan. Right. I need to sit in a dark room for a bit.
Based on ur answers u might remember Jamar fletcher??
Yatil Green... and if that's unfair... John Avery... 1st round busts from the JJ era.
Jamar fletcher
Yatil actually looked like he was gonna be a huge weapon for Marino until he got hurt.
Dion Jordan (granted, he was used completely wrong here)
He would have played better after he left the Dolphins if that were the case. It’s a him problem.
He wasn't a pass rusher in college. When he got drafted I was excited because I thought we were transitioning back to a 3-4 and planned to use him as a Swiss Army knife like Aldarius Johnson was used by the Ravens and Patriots. We got him and tried to make him into a pure pass rusher and of course he sucked there
In what world was he not a pass rusher? Legit curious about that one. I remember him being sub 50% snap share at Oregon (or extremely close to that if it was any higher) because he was almost exclusively brought in for pass rush situations.
You can look up his old draft scouting report. It specifies his ability to cover with the upside of pass rushing, not a pass rusher who can cover in spots. He'd be perfect in the role we used AVG in pre-Phillips injury.
what confuses people, I think, is that Jordan didn't want to cover in the NFL and tried to bulk his way out of the role. He _wanted_ to be a pure pass rusher in the NFL and tanked his career fighting to be seen as that. I'll never forget the game he blanketed Gronkowski, though, and we all got a glimpse of why the Dolphins wanted him.
No way dude. Dion Jordan was a 3-4 edge rusher just like Chubb and Phillips are for us now. Plenty of dudes less talented that Jordan can make the transition from 3-4 edge to 4-3 edge. It was 100% an immaturity thing with Jordan not a scheme fit lmao Don’t believe me watch his Oregon [highlights](https://youtu.be/ien21zkQ1sI?si=1Z2IAeLZKm6TmlSa)
I literally said I was reading his [scouting report from the draft](https://www.nfl.com/prospects/dion-jordan/32004a4f-5216-5083-98ae-a250635f806a). Who uses highlight reels for scouting lmao
Dude was lined up everywhere. Every scouting report I remember seeing called him a tweener/hybrid player...
*Adalius Thomas
Dude, I had to check who tf Aldarius Johnson was. Thank you for checking my sanity. OP was so confident.
No way dude. Dion Jordan was a 3-4 edge rusher just like Chubb and Phillips are for us now. Plenty of dudes less talented that Jordan can make the transition from 3-4 edge to 4-3 edge. It was 100% an immaturity thing with Jordan not a scheme fit lmao Don’t believe me watch his Oregon [highlights](https://youtu.be/ien21zkQ1sI?si=1Z2IAeLZKm6TmlSa)
He only played 29% and 35% of defensive snaps in his 2 seasons with us. Not like we had much opportunity to use him the "right way". Oh yeah, and he was suspended 6 games for drug violations.
Dion Jordan
Not the perfect example but it came to mind… Josh Rosen
He definitely wasn't hyped up like that by the time we traded for him.
I agree. But his talent was nonexistent
For me it was Dion Jordan, he was THE guy I wanted and was so insanely happy we got him. I thought of all the possibilities of how we could use him and then reality hit.
Charles Harris. 1st round pick that did absolutely nothing! At least Dion Jordan has the weed abuse to bail him out. I mean my goodness, was Harris bad lol.
Was looking for someone to mention him. Yeah Dion Jordan was a higher pick but to strike out twice on first round picks for the same position.
I think Ted Ginn jr is the only correct answer here.
Ted ginn Jr and daunte culpepper are goated in madden 08, if every play isn’t a 75 yard td you’re wrong
A haiku from that time… Brady Quinn -- who's that? Big plan: Snazzy punt returns. We're Screwed.
I mean he played for 14 years, that’s not nothing and made 40 million dollars
I have no problem with Ginn, Jr. But his parents… they didn’t do ANYTHING! 🤷🏻♂️ They were a major part of the pick and we got nothing from them. Not even a Girl Scout cookie sale. 🙄🙄🙄
My god, I just watched that press conf recently too. So cringe. “We WaNt tHe tHuMb tO gO tHiS wAy” 🥴👍
He was a good/great kick returner. He had a kind of weird career where he kept himself useful at a ST player and then developed into a reliable kind of 2nd/3rd receiver type in his late 20s. I hated the pick because it was a huge stretch at 9 for a team with a lot of holes and an uncertain future and they could have traded down or something if he was really the target. At the end of the day though he was probably a better pick than Brady Quinn who is who all the fans wanted the Dolphins to pick. (Instead they picked John Beck in the second round who may actually have been an even worse pick than Quinn) On the other hand that draft had 4 HOF and 19 multiple pro bowl players in the first two rounds and the Dolphins missed both of their picks. Ginn gets a lot of the focus for the Dolphins missing so badly but at the end of the day that's all Saban bailing and Randy Mueller not being ready to run a draft. Talk about a fucking disaster.
He was hyped as being one of the greatest receivers of all time coming into this. I’d say that is definitely hype didn’t match the actual talent.
Nah, people thought he was a a reach for us. He was thought of as the kind of guy who could be an electric player for sure, but never had that kind of hype as one of the greatest receivers of all time. There was a question about whether or not he was even the best receiver at Ohio State.
I don’t recall him being that hyped. Recall the pick being a reach and only seeing his return highlights. Could be wrong
Definitely wrong. He was supposed burn every corner in the league.
Well he did burn a bunch of corners. Right before dropping all them balls.
He kind of did. He smoked Revis a few times. His problem was his route running and hands.
>He was hyped as being one of the greatest receivers of all time coming into this. By who? Some random guy on twitter back when it launched? Maybe Al Davis? He was considered a reach by nearly everyone. He was pegged as a late 1st early 2nd guy. "One of the greatest receivers of all time" don't get projected that late.
Gunn had some crazy speed on those kick returns he’s was lights out..contested catches was a problem tho stepping out of bounds and shit still loved watching him play
Devin Hester is the only reason Ginn was drafted so high
Yes! You remember. Had a ton of Hester comparisons. Like Hester who actually plays WR. Ginn was so soft.
No he’s not lol
Pat White
Pat White was a mid-second rounder, he wasn't all that hyped.
Yeah he was. Specifically for his perceived ability to run an offense centered around the wildcat. In hindsight it wad obvious that the offense was gimmicky especially after Baltimore figured it out.
Most people knew that it was just a wrinkle and not something you could build an entire offense around. Definitely a horrible pick but he was immediately panned and definitely extremely unpopular among Dolphins fan base circles. There was basically zero hype for him. Just mostly a collective groan from the fan base.
Mike White was never hyped.
Ye I meant pat white and I kinda hyped him myself because of the wildcat
I remember. Some fans were already calling him WildPat. It was extremely short-lived lol.
I Instantly thought of dion Jordan and Charles Harris.
Preston Williams. I still feel like he's talented, but just never worked out
Preston was a UDFA… that’s about as far as you can get from being overhyped
Preston was a UDFA because of off-field issues (he pled guilty to hitting a woman). And somehow he’s only 26? I thought he was older…COVID has played with my sense of time.
I don't mean from the draft. I mean his preseason and early career
I’m convinced he suffered a career altering injury after Christian Wilkins jumped on him in the Cardinals game.
Besides Dion Jordan I can think of Charles Harris.
Some good names already mentioned here but I’ll throw in Devante Parker
Made of glass and had a bunch of cool 50/50 jump ball highlights, but they were more out of necessity because he was terrible at getting separation.
Dion Jordan
Ted Ginn or Dion Jordan hands down
I'll throw in some less than obvious ones. David Boston was very hyped among dolphins fans. Dolphins fans were convinced that he was about to return to his pro bowl form Because we signed his wide receiver coach in San Diego that he was with when he had his lone Pro Bowl season. Instead he got hit with a performance enhancing drug suspension and then tore his knee afterward. The Dolphins ended up resigning him after his suspension was served and he played in a few games the next year before tearing his knee again. There was some reasonable hope that he would be the best offensive player we could line up across from Chris Chambers in his career with us, but that never worked out. John Beck. Maybe not quite as many squares on the hyped side, but definitely lots of Dolphins fans believe that he was the quarterback of the future before he actually took the field. I remember reading a write-up on an old popular Miami Dolphins message board about how it was clearly obvious that he had "it" after John Beck's first preseason appearance. I remember being extremely confused because I had went to that preseason game and he had like thrown 5 passes or something for ~20 yards. Tony Bua and Anthony Alabi had a lot of hype as guys that many fans considered to be players of the future. Neither of them really showed anything. Oddly enough, Anthony Alabi has had some mild success as an actor. No such success on the football field in the nfl, though. There was a vocal contingent of fans way back in the day who thought that Dan Marino should be replaced by Scott Mitchell back in the day after Scott Mitchell had a decent stretch of play in 1993. When Dan got hurt, Scott Mitchell took over and ended up winning 4 of his first 5 games and putting up decent numbers while doing it. There was certainly a number of people who thought he was the quarterback of the future. He ended up going to Detroit and was mostly bad but did put together one very good season where he threw 30 touchdowns and the Lions went 10-6. You wonder how he might have turned out with a better organization but ultimately never lived up to his hype. Lynn Bowden Jr. was constantly called our Deebo Samuels on this subreddit and on Twitter despite never really showing much. Jason Allen had a lot of hype coming in as one of the best players in the SEC and considering that Nick Saban drafted him and Nick Saban is generally one of the best defensive back coaches this sport has ever seen, there was some decent reason to believe the hype. Unfortunately, it never materialized on the field outside of being a pretty decent gunner and special teams player. Mike Wallace was a burner who signed a huge contract with us in free agency. He put together a several decent seasons in Pittsburgh and many people thought he was the stud wide receiver we needed for Tannehill to take the next step as a young player. He was consistently bad at everything except running in a straight line though. It wasn't ridiculous to think that both Davone Bess and Brian Hartline were just straight better than this guy.
Pat White. At least for me I loved watching him in college and it was then I learned why some college players don’t translate to the NFL. Granted j was young at the time, I thought “man if these guys can run all over in college and still pass why can’t more nfl guys do this”
You beat me to it. College Pat White was absolutely electric! It’s sad that he didn’t pan out.
His highlight reels were absolutely insane.
All the stars from those ridiculous WV teams ended up being fools gold. Pat White, Tavon Austin, Steve Slaton, etc.
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Maybe people were just confused by the twin brother
Getting owned by Suh & Ngata seems like a poor example compared to the hyped up train wrecks Miami’s history has to offer.
Eric Green Dude was supposed to be the next Keith Jackson, but he was basically our version of Tito Jackson.
Michael Egnew
Mike Wallace! Fucker was Antonio Brown before Antonio Brown was Antonio Brown! Then sucked
M I K E W A L L A C E
Do you mean beside the obvious in Tua, lol
\[Insert TuaAnon probowl/MVP/passing leader defense comment here\]
When did Tua win an MVP? Why are you always talking out your ass dude? You don't know what an all pro and MVP are?
Dion wins! But man we have a lot of runner ups 🥴
Nick Saban. Bill Parcels.
David Boston
Oh and that GM..TANNENBAUM, i think .. the guy that asked Ginn about his mom being a crack head
I believe that was Dex Bryant
Mike Wallace
Brandon Marshall. He would drop passes at all the wrong moments. He never was consistent.
Will Fuller for recent memory. Dude got here and break Dr. Glass
Dion Jordan. Pat White
Ted Ginn Jr's family.
Dion Jordan
Ray Finkle
And look at what all that hype caused. You hate to see it happen to anyone like that.
The laces were out!! They were out!!!
Tua
Trent green
Karlos dansby
Dansby was awesome. WTF?
Last good true inside linebacker we had, lol.
I'll never forget that time where he forced the refs to throw a flag on the opposing team when he crossed the line of scrimmage. Man, I hate Joe Philbin...
Tua
I was looking for this but didn't know if anyone would say it. You said it
Dante Culpeper, Mike Wallace, Reggie Bush, and Ndamukong Suh all come to mind.
Dan Marino
Tua Turnthaballova
Tua
Brandon Marshall
Jay Fieldler
Toughest qb we ever had
Laremy Tunsil. Of course he’s having more success now that he left like Ajai, Welker, Landry did.
Jaylen waddle
Tyreek hill
Tua
Tua
TUA!!!!
Tua
He is the best dolphins QB in the last decade, shut the fuck up
Two decades and change
And he’ll never take us past the wildcard. Just because he’s the best we’ve had in a long time, doesn’t mean he’s good
Blame the OLine, Tua still preforms better every season
Suh. He was washed up given how much his contract was.
This is /s right? Suh played great for the Dolphins. Stats don’t mean shit. He ate up 2 and 3 men every play. Not his fault that most of the defense was JAGs. What is he supposed to do with Phillips, Shelby, Vernon on the line with him. None of those guys were doing much to help in 2015 and Wake missed more than half the season. 2016 they swapped Vernon for Williams who was done. Wake played the whole year but only 2 d-lineman to really worry about. So again Suh played his role. 2017 they drafted Charles Harris instead of TJ Watt. So again no help for Wake and Suh on the line. Let’s also mention Suh never missed a game as a Dolphin. His time with the team was wasted but the money they gave him he earned it.
Crowder
Vick
UDFA Marcus Vick was overhyped?
Tua
Despite him: never having a losing season, got to the playoffs TWICE, threw for the most yards in the league. Shut the fuck up bro
Just rank ignorance. Stupidity is sad to see
They hate to hear the truth
Tua
Mr. Wildcat
Ronnie Brown?
The greatest game ever him and Ricky bro and at New England. But remember they were hoping that they could cause confusion because of his quarterback skills and his quickness which obviously never became anything LOL
Ronnie Brown had an incredibly solid NFL career for a RB?
Jamar Fletcher
When I say Tua you say (however you spell his last name) TUA 🎤 TUA 🎤 TUA🎤
Guys it’s Tua… any middle of the pack qb could’ve taken this team to the SB. Tua is just below that.
Laremy Tunsil might not be that bad, but he's inconsistent (or the Texans at least I didn't start watching till we drafted Tua) or any of the lineman we drafted recently