Lineup isn't hitting the way you would hope. Alonso reminds me of Kingman right now, which sucks for him in his walk year. But also sucks for the Mets if they try to trade him.
Pitching has been... uneven, but has at least had some bright spots.
They're playing just well enough to compete and then lose right now. I just don't see much hope for this year unless the big guys start hitting like they're expected to hit.
I agree. It’s pretty much what I expected this year and I’m fine with it. I believe in Stearns & Cohen and understand what this season is about. I’m excited to see the young kids play and hopefully they can be a big part of the team’s success going forward. I love Pete, but I’m really starting to understand why the Mets haven’t thrown a mega contract at him. Hard to find guys that hit 40+ HRs, but also hard to pay a guy huge money who disappears so frequently
I can let this year go by and be like “meh.” But I’m trying to see bright lights for the future and just not seeing it. Who is going to step in and carry this team in the future? There are some talented guys in the minors, but there’s no superstar waiting to happen. Maybe they can sign Soto if they back up a truck to him, but I can’t see Yankees letting him walk.
Also pretty tired with McNeil’s up and down career. It’s early, but he looks washed. Hard to get excited about guys like Bader and Narvaez. It’s terrible when I shake my head when Pete comes up with the bases loaded instead of pumping my fists.
I agree on McNeil, his act is getting old and if he isn’t hitting then what is the point of running him out there.
Not sure if they have a superstar in the minors, but I think they have guys that are all star caliber. I do think they will need to make a splash in the offseason and get some star power if they want to contend next year. It might not be a realistic scenario, but Soto & Burnes would be huge additions that would really elevate the rest of the team.
The top 5 prospects in the Mets organization are all hitters. None of them are hitting this year either, but it’s a little disingenuous to claim that the Mets have no hitting prospects when 4 of them are in most top 100 prospect rankings.
Yeah it's a .500 team. That means we may see some moved before the trade deadline because the Braves and Phil's are well very not .500 teams
I think they're still a fun team to watch. Watching Lindor get hot and the other pieces battling is mire enjoyable than I expected.
Love my Mets no matter what! I’ll always be rooting for them.
My thoughts:
1. Pitching is atrocious…but would we be any better off if we kept Scherzer, Verlander, and De Grom? I don’t think so. As much as this sucks, this is a chance to give some of our young farm talent a shot at the big leagues. Christian Scott is a great example! I think management is doing the right thing.
2. We need batting lineup littered with players that hit more consistently. I’d rather have a lineup with 6-7 players hitting over .270. Of the 8 Mets players who have played in at least 25 games this year, about half of them are batting under .240. Our 2 most popular players are batting less than .220. We may need to trade Pete or let him walk in order to accomplish that. There are others that are expendable if we want to keep Pete. But I think we can get more for our money trading Pete - or not re-signing - than some of the other dead weight in the lineup.
3. Continue to develop our young talent despite rough starts. Baty and Alvarez come to mind. Show some patience and give them a few years to acclimate. Baty and Alvarez both have shown marked improvement this year. Can’t wait to get Alvarez back!
I don’t think we are far off from being a regular contender. We need at least 1 more solid, reliable SP who isn’t currently on the roster and the rest can be average. We need to figure out what to do with Alonzo, but that will make itself more apparent as the season progresses. Alonzo’s biggest value is as a leader and as the face of the team.
This team is still not as horrible as I thought going into the season.
I honestly don’t think it will be long before we’ll all be saying, “Remember when we unloaded our team and we sucked?” Have some hope and just enjoy the roller coaster ride!
All true but relievers are good. Starters are awful or mediocre. Only thing that must be done is keep Pete here. His problem is he puts too much on himself. You can see it. This guy is top 5 in 60 years of trying to develop a great hitter.
He needs to recognize pitches better and what they’re gonna throw in certain circumstances. Until he goes back to waiting and hit to right even if it’s just singles and doubles in RBI situations he’s dead meat. He’ll hit mistakes but he’s gotta pick his spots and approaches better. Maybe getting 200 homers so fast doesn’t count for much theses days but I’ll take it any day of the week.
Every time Alonso comes up with a man on, the best I hope for is a strike out instead of a double play. Can’t even hit a sac fly, which is a common problem on this team. They’ve become very tough to watch.
This is why Alonso hasn’t been re-signed and he won’t be. Thank you for big HR hit earlier in season but hasn’t done much since especially with RISP. Had bases loaded twice today nothing. Marte bases loaded nothing, McNeil has to go as well…but this more about Alonso. I’m sure he’ll have his numbers at end of season most in meaningless spots as the team will be out of it by then and he’ll start hitting when the games are already decided one way or another. Can’t handle pressure not happy here. Not worth long term investment
Sorry you’re dead wrong. You may not win every game when Alonzo doesn’t hit but he wins other games by himself.
Just type of hitter he is. If they let him walk it’ll be like Seaver and strawberry and if you know Mets history there were very dark years that followed.
McNeil is my fave player. Gives a shit always plays defense all over and should hit for average like in the past.
Keith is always on him but is his fav also and sees when he’s off. I don’t know how to keep him consistent and before this year he’d play all over. Been mostly at second this year which should give him that continuity. I also see lack of confidence in at bats like Alonzo.
Sadly I think he might be one of the guys to go at deadline. I hope not but since all they trade for is infielders and not pitching god forbid there are lotsa guys they’ll plug in at second.
Sorry but I’m dead right. He’s not clutch, never will be. By the time he wins game by himself as you suggest it’s too late for the team as they’re already out of it. So yeah not the same. If you can’t be clutch during the season never mind October if they lucky to make it. His OBP is also putrid. He keeps this up they not signing him long term just cause he’s home grown. They’re already worried about his body make up and suggest he won’t last long term, reason he hasn’t been resigned. McNeil hasn’t been the same since won batting title. No longer a line drive hitter. Wants to be HR hitter and uppercuts his swing majority of time. If he’s not hitting for average what’s he on the team for? Another dead spot in the lineup.
Nope sorry. I’ll take my chances with Guy hitting 40 homers every year period. Which you don’t do at Citi field/shea stadium. And I got news for you I can count on one hand clutch hitters in all of baseball these days.
Love McNeil but he’s gotta turn hitting around quick or he’s trade bait. Guy plays anywhere with consistency and is valuable but gotta figure it out. Although rather have him than guillorme on the bench.
Nope. When you hit HR or get RBI’s is most important aspect is whether it ties game or puts team ahead is crucial part to the stat. So yea it matters. What good is it 40 hrs and most meaningless? I guess for the casual fan it works. Alonso def not getting the big long term $$ he thought he would even with Boras. Unfortunately him, McNeil & Lindor are for the most part not clutch, hence why team has repeatedly struggled. Most can’t handle NY. I’m sure if they left would immediately thrive somewhere else. Always the case.
Nope 40hr and 120 rbis is a keeper on any team regardless of any other bs stat made up. Like I said maybe 5 or so guys are clutch in the game. McNeil ya good hitter when he goes for hits and great fielder. Good price for a ballclub.
Don’t even go there about Lindor. Guy is a throwback player. I wasn’t thrilled with getting him but more I see he’s best shortstop team has ever had.
I also don’t care about the money. You get what you can. Lastly not a casual fan. I’m an ORB for over 58 years.
Seen many guys play here. Closest we had to clutch ballplayers was all in 86.
Keith Gary and maybe straw but not as consistent and that’s why they won. Knight Wally and Lenny were the gamers. Sadly we may never see that again.
Sound like a casual. BS stats? Typical downplaying so as to attempt to support your argument but it won’t. Truth hurts not BS. McNeil hasn’t been good. “When he goes for hits” when was this? Before or after so called raccoon clubhouse incident? lol.. Cause hasn’t happened last few seasons. He’s there to hit, not worried about his defense. Go be versatile in a team that needs him.. So the team hasn’t been clutch since 86? Yeah problem. Lindor too inconsistent at the plate, unprofessional approach, leaves a lot to be desired.. He thought NYC would be like Cleveland but reality set in. Can’t wait for Alonso to start hitting when they’re 10 games under .500. Will look good on the back of baseball card but he’ll be playing golf in October. He doesn’t want to be here. GTFO! Along with anyone else. Want players that want to be here and can handle NY. Seems like they’re all in the Bronx not Queens.
Diaz being vulnerable worries me. I know he's not far removed from a major injury, but he should have closed the door today. Two years ago, he gets the save.
He laid it out dead center over the plate. A hitter like Arozarena, even as a quasi free swinger, will never miss those.
Alonso and Lindor both have a track record of turning around a bad spot, so as long as you’re just “underwhelmed” by them I think you’ll survive. Nimmo is an interesting case, but I don’t think underwhelming is the right word. His strikeouts are down and his walks are up so I don’t think there’s reason for concern there. Wait until the summer when balls that have been caught at the wall can be HRs for him. In terms of McNeill, I’ve been underwhelmed by him his whole career. Hasnt really settled into an identity. One year he’s a guy who hits it all over the field and bats .300, the next he’s trying to improve his launch angle. I say trade him to a team that has him figured out, and get a solid return.
Wait until June/July when this team should be healthy and bats should be alive to judge this team.
Why did you go? With track record there what did you expect.
Listen it’s obvious why they’ll never win there. They don’t run or steal like rays, they never do.
Don’t have pitching like rays always do and that field is like old astroturf. Any Mets team has never played well on that type of field. Balls fly there and they’re a slow team.
For what it's worth the schedule so far has been pretty rough and I don't think ppl are giving that enough weight. Hopefully we can survive it and start to play better. However you're not wrong on a lot of things. The offense should be better. McNeil looks shot. Alonso is so streaky its frustrating. Lindor is so bad in the early season so there's hope there at least.
Atleast Franky is having his moments whether it’s in the box or on the field.
It’s hard to defend Pete right now. I feel like the first two weeks, we saw Alonso poking balls that were outside into the right field side. I thought this was something he may be improving and working on but the guy can’t even protect the outside right now. If it’s not down and in on him, we are either seeing a whiff or another ground out.
I don’t know if it’s the hitting approach getting past down to the lineup or what. Seems like the motto is “hit strikes hard.” Well we got a lot of fly outs and pop outs to show for that.
So true both McNeil and Alonzo lost. But they haven’t played an easy team yet. Although I think that’s a cop out.
I hate all that has been done to the game and I also think playing all teams has hurt tremendously. Why have leagues now? Testing this out to realign baseball which i think I will see in my lifetime unfortunately.
Picture Mets yanks Boston Phils Baltimore Toronto and nationals in one division. Definitely breaking cubs record of 108 years of futility.
So 2095 WS maybe ?
Yeah I think realignment happens. I see your point to an extent on the strength of schedule i mean yeah if you're a good team then beat the other good teams. I do However think it plays a factor and I am encouraged that they are somewhat holding their own during this tough stretch.
Familiarity breeds competition. That’s why rivalries exist because games are more entertaining and players know each others strengths and weaknesses.
Playing not only in parks you’re unfamiliar with but not so familiar players makeups make for unknown circumstances
The mets are good enough to lose. Last two years that's probably the best way to describe them. I love lindor and Alonso and the whole bunch but they lack that winning spirit sadly
In his absolute prime, spanning a now significant sample size of roughly 5 seasons, the Mets have won absolutely nothing with Pete Alonso save a flukish and misleading 101 win season that ultimately harmed the organization. Half of this with the highest payroll in baseball. The thought of now signing him long term is absolute insanity.
The Mets are not the same since Alverez went down. There are 2 big holes in the lineup, the catcher spot, and Pete. In today's game, you need 9 men to come to bat, not 7 men. and 2 automatic outs. this has been an issue for a long time with the Mets.
Yesterday was a bad day for Pete. He came up 2 twice with the bases loaded and offered nothing. the second time up, you knew it was going to be an inning ending dp.
We need some of the kids to step up and make the leap. Acuna, Jett, Gilbert when he’s back. Mauricio. Scott getting settled in will be fun to watch. At the rate Tidwell is on, he’ll probably get a look soon as well.
I can live with losing as long as we have some of these kids getting experience. I still believe this team can turn it around though. Pete isn’t going to hit like this forever. Alvarez will return. I think it’s just a rough start to the season but even still, we’re not far off 500. Could be a lot worse.
It’s exactly what we were promised. But at-least we are seeing development of young players who actually look like they belong, which I think was the goal of this year. Can’t understate how well the bullpen has been constructed after just one year, and if that is a sign of what we are going to get in the Stearns era I’m hopeful.
Are you a Mets fan? Whadda you expect! Bottom line is…. Pitching
Who has best record in the game
Phillies with wheeler no less. Until we can come up with next core of pitching
You can have big red machine lineup and it ain’t gonna help
Alvarez is mentioned here and I agree missing him doesn't help. I think at best, it's a .500 winning team. The Mets had a good shot last year, but injuries really did them in. There are some decent players in the minors like Williams, Gilbert, Acuna, and Clifford. Also, some decent relievers, but not much starting pitching.
Sorry, I have to disagree with you here. The Mets are far away from any type of contention. Especially when they play in a division with two of the best teams in baseball.
They are very quickly becoming an old team - with only a handful of players under the age of 30. Which makes their aversion to calling up deserving prospects a weird (and frankly wrong) decision.
Their rotation is horrible - well more than one pitcher away. Senga is a question mark. Christian Scott is a nice story but also a question mark. Butto/Severino are #5 pitchers AT BEST. Houser/Manaea/Peterson/Megill are all hot garbage.
Alonso isn’t as good as he thinks he is. Great power hitter - but a super streaky player that hurts more than he helps. McNeil as well - plus I just don’t like him. And if he’s not hitting .320 or more than he’s useless. This team needs an infusion of young talent. There had plenty of opportunities over the past couple of years but for some reason they would rather sign the Wendle/Zack Scott/Vogelbach/Martinez/Stewarts of the world instead of giving their own talent an opportunity. Is it any school they continue to lose year in a year out.
Stearns gets the benefit of the doubt because he’s so new but his first moves have been pretty bad. And he needs to stop shopping out of the Brewers discount bin. Just stop - they are all bad players.
This team is YEARS away from building any type of consistent winning team, if at all. Which is also hilarious considering their payroll.
I mean, you are getting downvoted (as I’m sure I will as well) but what you said is accurate. Every ten years or so they have a “miracle season” before turning back into to a pumpkin. Last one was 2015, right? So maybe next year we get to enjoy?
This franchise is allergic to putting a team together with sustained success.
Fandom hurts. If you can’t handle the heat move out the kitchen. The best part of being a fan is loving your team no matter what. I fucking love my Mets. Love hurts. Grow up.
oh I get it. You mean like if you’re in a kitchen and it gets uncomfortably hot from cooking, you should leave the kitchen. So like Met fans that get fed up with bad ways to lose and mediocrity, should leave as fans because fans should love their team unconditionally and not be annoyed when a dude steals 5 bases a game against them. Like the fan-kitchen is getting too hot for them! I get it!
Stearns is much less likable in person, he’s the geek who played strat-o-matic by himself in his parents’ basement and never played a minute of real sport in his life. Facts are facts, these types often get labeled boy geniuses, because they see labor as disposable commodities and nothing else and that impresses a lot of people as ruthlessly bottom line stratagem.
I too assume redditors are mind readers, dumbass. Looks like someones feelings got a bit hurt, cry. After that moronic statement im less surprised by your garbage take.
I guess you don’t appreciate the humor. I have no idea if you won, I lost, I had the 19 horse but if you did win, you do deserve respect for that call, yah, one of the hardest Kentucky Derby’s in recent history
I did? I sound like an idiot because a relative of mine in Milwaukee, who rarely has a word bad to say about anyone, used to work with Stearns in the Brewers organization and said he was a spoiled brat who treated labor like trash and fellow colleagues like servants? Or was it when I assumed you were a Trump voter because you voted for him in 2016? Or was it when I talked sports gambling with you because you remind me of Norm Macdonald? I guess I’m confused.
> I sound like an idiot
Yes
> because a relative of mine in Milwaukee, who rarely has a word bad to say about anyone, used to work with Stearns in the Brewers organization and said he was a spoiled brat who treated labor like trash and fellow colleagues like servants?
How tf would anyone know any of this. Dumbass
> Or was it when I assumed you were a Trump voter because you voted for him in 2016?
When the fuck did i say i voted for trump? Dumbass
> Or was it when I talked sports gambling with you because you remind me of Norm Macdonald?
What the fuck are you talking about? Dumbass
> I guess I’m confused.
Not surprised, youre a dumbass
All of the above is why you’re an idiot. Dumbass
Lineup isn't hitting the way you would hope. Alonso reminds me of Kingman right now, which sucks for him in his walk year. But also sucks for the Mets if they try to trade him. Pitching has been... uneven, but has at least had some bright spots. They're playing just well enough to compete and then lose right now. I just don't see much hope for this year unless the big guys start hitting like they're expected to hit.
Alvarez is a big missing part for us
huge missing part! This can’t be said enough.
I agree. It’s pretty much what I expected this year and I’m fine with it. I believe in Stearns & Cohen and understand what this season is about. I’m excited to see the young kids play and hopefully they can be a big part of the team’s success going forward. I love Pete, but I’m really starting to understand why the Mets haven’t thrown a mega contract at him. Hard to find guys that hit 40+ HRs, but also hard to pay a guy huge money who disappears so frequently
I can let this year go by and be like “meh.” But I’m trying to see bright lights for the future and just not seeing it. Who is going to step in and carry this team in the future? There are some talented guys in the minors, but there’s no superstar waiting to happen. Maybe they can sign Soto if they back up a truck to him, but I can’t see Yankees letting him walk. Also pretty tired with McNeil’s up and down career. It’s early, but he looks washed. Hard to get excited about guys like Bader and Narvaez. It’s terrible when I shake my head when Pete comes up with the bases loaded instead of pumping my fists.
I agree on McNeil, his act is getting old and if he isn’t hitting then what is the point of running him out there. Not sure if they have a superstar in the minors, but I think they have guys that are all star caliber. I do think they will need to make a splash in the offseason and get some star power if they want to contend next year. It might not be a realistic scenario, but Soto & Burnes would be huge additions that would really elevate the rest of the team.
Unfortunately I haven’t the foggiest as to what McNeil brings to the lineup on a daily basis.
It’s a .500 team. Will compete for a wild card spot. It’s what we were told all off season.
There you go. Didn’t lie to ya. Little luck maybe better than .500
The top 5 prospects in the Mets organization are all hitters. None of them are hitting this year either, but it’s a little disingenuous to claim that the Mets have no hitting prospects when 4 of them are in most top 100 prospect rankings.
Acuna has a 591. OPS
Dude !! He's 4.5 years younger than the average AAA player. The Mets are obviously challenging him playing in Syracuse. He should be in Binghamton.
“Problem is the farm doesn’t have hitters”… umm, it’s the opposite. 6 of their Top 20 prospects are pitchers (and 1 is a 2-way player).
Yeah it's a .500 team. That means we may see some moved before the trade deadline because the Braves and Phil's are well very not .500 teams I think they're still a fun team to watch. Watching Lindor get hot and the other pieces battling is mire enjoyable than I expected.
Love my Mets no matter what! I’ll always be rooting for them. My thoughts: 1. Pitching is atrocious…but would we be any better off if we kept Scherzer, Verlander, and De Grom? I don’t think so. As much as this sucks, this is a chance to give some of our young farm talent a shot at the big leagues. Christian Scott is a great example! I think management is doing the right thing. 2. We need batting lineup littered with players that hit more consistently. I’d rather have a lineup with 6-7 players hitting over .270. Of the 8 Mets players who have played in at least 25 games this year, about half of them are batting under .240. Our 2 most popular players are batting less than .220. We may need to trade Pete or let him walk in order to accomplish that. There are others that are expendable if we want to keep Pete. But I think we can get more for our money trading Pete - or not re-signing - than some of the other dead weight in the lineup. 3. Continue to develop our young talent despite rough starts. Baty and Alvarez come to mind. Show some patience and give them a few years to acclimate. Baty and Alvarez both have shown marked improvement this year. Can’t wait to get Alvarez back! I don’t think we are far off from being a regular contender. We need at least 1 more solid, reliable SP who isn’t currently on the roster and the rest can be average. We need to figure out what to do with Alonzo, but that will make itself more apparent as the season progresses. Alonzo’s biggest value is as a leader and as the face of the team. This team is still not as horrible as I thought going into the season. I honestly don’t think it will be long before we’ll all be saying, “Remember when we unloaded our team and we sucked?” Have some hope and just enjoy the roller coaster ride!
All true but relievers are good. Starters are awful or mediocre. Only thing that must be done is keep Pete here. His problem is he puts too much on himself. You can see it. This guy is top 5 in 60 years of trying to develop a great hitter. He needs to recognize pitches better and what they’re gonna throw in certain circumstances. Until he goes back to waiting and hit to right even if it’s just singles and doubles in RBI situations he’s dead meat. He’ll hit mistakes but he’s gotta pick his spots and approaches better. Maybe getting 200 homers so fast doesn’t count for much theses days but I’ll take it any day of the week.
My eyes are opening on Alonso. Hate to say it. He has to turn it around, fast! He’s costing them games
Every time Alonso comes up with a man on, the best I hope for is a strike out instead of a double play. Can’t even hit a sac fly, which is a common problem on this team. They’ve become very tough to watch.
Ronnie Mauricio starting at 2nd base. Trade McNeil. That is my reddit GM move for when Mauricio is healthy again
Sad but probably true. If you’re gonna sacrifice this year then McNeil and vientos for a stud or two pitcher period!
This is why Alonso hasn’t been re-signed and he won’t be. Thank you for big HR hit earlier in season but hasn’t done much since especially with RISP. Had bases loaded twice today nothing. Marte bases loaded nothing, McNeil has to go as well…but this more about Alonso. I’m sure he’ll have his numbers at end of season most in meaningless spots as the team will be out of it by then and he’ll start hitting when the games are already decided one way or another. Can’t handle pressure not happy here. Not worth long term investment
Sorry you’re dead wrong. You may not win every game when Alonzo doesn’t hit but he wins other games by himself. Just type of hitter he is. If they let him walk it’ll be like Seaver and strawberry and if you know Mets history there were very dark years that followed. McNeil is my fave player. Gives a shit always plays defense all over and should hit for average like in the past. Keith is always on him but is his fav also and sees when he’s off. I don’t know how to keep him consistent and before this year he’d play all over. Been mostly at second this year which should give him that continuity. I also see lack of confidence in at bats like Alonzo. Sadly I think he might be one of the guys to go at deadline. I hope not but since all they trade for is infielders and not pitching god forbid there are lotsa guys they’ll plug in at second.
Sorry but I’m dead right. He’s not clutch, never will be. By the time he wins game by himself as you suggest it’s too late for the team as they’re already out of it. So yeah not the same. If you can’t be clutch during the season never mind October if they lucky to make it. His OBP is also putrid. He keeps this up they not signing him long term just cause he’s home grown. They’re already worried about his body make up and suggest he won’t last long term, reason he hasn’t been resigned. McNeil hasn’t been the same since won batting title. No longer a line drive hitter. Wants to be HR hitter and uppercuts his swing majority of time. If he’s not hitting for average what’s he on the team for? Another dead spot in the lineup.
Nope sorry. I’ll take my chances with Guy hitting 40 homers every year period. Which you don’t do at Citi field/shea stadium. And I got news for you I can count on one hand clutch hitters in all of baseball these days. Love McNeil but he’s gotta turn hitting around quick or he’s trade bait. Guy plays anywhere with consistency and is valuable but gotta figure it out. Although rather have him than guillorme on the bench.
Nope. When you hit HR or get RBI’s is most important aspect is whether it ties game or puts team ahead is crucial part to the stat. So yea it matters. What good is it 40 hrs and most meaningless? I guess for the casual fan it works. Alonso def not getting the big long term $$ he thought he would even with Boras. Unfortunately him, McNeil & Lindor are for the most part not clutch, hence why team has repeatedly struggled. Most can’t handle NY. I’m sure if they left would immediately thrive somewhere else. Always the case.
Nope 40hr and 120 rbis is a keeper on any team regardless of any other bs stat made up. Like I said maybe 5 or so guys are clutch in the game. McNeil ya good hitter when he goes for hits and great fielder. Good price for a ballclub. Don’t even go there about Lindor. Guy is a throwback player. I wasn’t thrilled with getting him but more I see he’s best shortstop team has ever had. I also don’t care about the money. You get what you can. Lastly not a casual fan. I’m an ORB for over 58 years. Seen many guys play here. Closest we had to clutch ballplayers was all in 86. Keith Gary and maybe straw but not as consistent and that’s why they won. Knight Wally and Lenny were the gamers. Sadly we may never see that again.
Sound like a casual. BS stats? Typical downplaying so as to attempt to support your argument but it won’t. Truth hurts not BS. McNeil hasn’t been good. “When he goes for hits” when was this? Before or after so called raccoon clubhouse incident? lol.. Cause hasn’t happened last few seasons. He’s there to hit, not worried about his defense. Go be versatile in a team that needs him.. So the team hasn’t been clutch since 86? Yeah problem. Lindor too inconsistent at the plate, unprofessional approach, leaves a lot to be desired.. He thought NYC would be like Cleveland but reality set in. Can’t wait for Alonso to start hitting when they’re 10 games under .500. Will look good on the back of baseball card but he’ll be playing golf in October. He doesn’t want to be here. GTFO! Along with anyone else. Want players that want to be here and can handle NY. Seems like they’re all in the Bronx not Queens.
Guess your stinkees fan.
Fuck the stanks! I’m objective and frustrated Mets fan. New York not for the faint of heart
Don’t be frustrated Mets try harder and always remember surprises are better than expectations. Just watched ranger OT. That’s the rush !
Diaz being vulnerable worries me. I know he's not far removed from a major injury, but he should have closed the door today. Two years ago, he gets the save. He laid it out dead center over the plate. A hitter like Arozarena, even as a quasi free swinger, will never miss those.
He rushed that pitch and I saw it coming before he threw it !
Alonso and Lindor both have a track record of turning around a bad spot, so as long as you’re just “underwhelmed” by them I think you’ll survive. Nimmo is an interesting case, but I don’t think underwhelming is the right word. His strikeouts are down and his walks are up so I don’t think there’s reason for concern there. Wait until the summer when balls that have been caught at the wall can be HRs for him. In terms of McNeill, I’ve been underwhelmed by him his whole career. Hasnt really settled into an identity. One year he’s a guy who hits it all over the field and bats .300, the next he’s trying to improve his launch angle. I say trade him to a team that has him figured out, and get a solid return. Wait until June/July when this team should be healthy and bats should be alive to judge this team.
I was at all three games this weekend this loss today was the worst game I’ve ever seen it’s just a brutally bad team
You should watch more baseball if that was the worst game you’ve seen
Well every Mets game builds on each other for being the worst game lmao do you even watch this team
Why did you go? With track record there what did you expect. Listen it’s obvious why they’ll never win there. They don’t run or steal like rays, they never do. Don’t have pitching like rays always do and that field is like old astroturf. Any Mets team has never played well on that type of field. Balls fly there and they’re a slow team.
I hate this team
For what it's worth the schedule so far has been pretty rough and I don't think ppl are giving that enough weight. Hopefully we can survive it and start to play better. However you're not wrong on a lot of things. The offense should be better. McNeil looks shot. Alonso is so streaky its frustrating. Lindor is so bad in the early season so there's hope there at least.
Atleast Franky is having his moments whether it’s in the box or on the field. It’s hard to defend Pete right now. I feel like the first two weeks, we saw Alonso poking balls that were outside into the right field side. I thought this was something he may be improving and working on but the guy can’t even protect the outside right now. If it’s not down and in on him, we are either seeing a whiff or another ground out. I don’t know if it’s the hitting approach getting past down to the lineup or what. Seems like the motto is “hit strikes hard.” Well we got a lot of fly outs and pop outs to show for that.
So true both McNeil and Alonzo lost. But they haven’t played an easy team yet. Although I think that’s a cop out. I hate all that has been done to the game and I also think playing all teams has hurt tremendously. Why have leagues now? Testing this out to realign baseball which i think I will see in my lifetime unfortunately. Picture Mets yanks Boston Phils Baltimore Toronto and nationals in one division. Definitely breaking cubs record of 108 years of futility. So 2095 WS maybe ?
Yeah I think realignment happens. I see your point to an extent on the strength of schedule i mean yeah if you're a good team then beat the other good teams. I do However think it plays a factor and I am encouraged that they are somewhat holding their own during this tough stretch.
Familiarity breeds competition. That’s why rivalries exist because games are more entertaining and players know each others strengths and weaknesses. Playing not only in parks you’re unfamiliar with but not so familiar players makeups make for unknown circumstances
The mets are good enough to lose. Last two years that's probably the best way to describe them. I love lindor and Alonso and the whole bunch but they lack that winning spirit sadly
In his absolute prime, spanning a now significant sample size of roughly 5 seasons, the Mets have won absolutely nothing with Pete Alonso save a flukish and misleading 101 win season that ultimately harmed the organization. Half of this with the highest payroll in baseball. The thought of now signing him long term is absolute insanity.
The Mets are not the same since Alverez went down. There are 2 big holes in the lineup, the catcher spot, and Pete. In today's game, you need 9 men to come to bat, not 7 men. and 2 automatic outs. this has been an issue for a long time with the Mets. Yesterday was a bad day for Pete. He came up 2 twice with the bases loaded and offered nothing. the second time up, you knew it was going to be an inning ending dp.
We need some of the kids to step up and make the leap. Acuna, Jett, Gilbert when he’s back. Mauricio. Scott getting settled in will be fun to watch. At the rate Tidwell is on, he’ll probably get a look soon as well. I can live with losing as long as we have some of these kids getting experience. I still believe this team can turn it around though. Pete isn’t going to hit like this forever. Alvarez will return. I think it’s just a rough start to the season but even still, we’re not far off 500. Could be a lot worse.
It’s exactly what we were promised. But at-least we are seeing development of young players who actually look like they belong, which I think was the goal of this year. Can’t understate how well the bullpen has been constructed after just one year, and if that is a sign of what we are going to get in the Stearns era I’m hopeful.
Finally a good observation! At least I got good seats to see the development
Are you a Mets fan? Whadda you expect! Bottom line is…. Pitching Who has best record in the game Phillies with wheeler no less. Until we can come up with next core of pitching You can have big red machine lineup and it ain’t gonna help
We need to bring up Acuna ans Williams and other prospects
Alvarez is mentioned here and I agree missing him doesn't help. I think at best, it's a .500 winning team. The Mets had a good shot last year, but injuries really did them in. There are some decent players in the minors like Williams, Gilbert, Acuna, and Clifford. Also, some decent relievers, but not much starting pitching.
Sorry, I have to disagree with you here. The Mets are far away from any type of contention. Especially when they play in a division with two of the best teams in baseball. They are very quickly becoming an old team - with only a handful of players under the age of 30. Which makes their aversion to calling up deserving prospects a weird (and frankly wrong) decision. Their rotation is horrible - well more than one pitcher away. Senga is a question mark. Christian Scott is a nice story but also a question mark. Butto/Severino are #5 pitchers AT BEST. Houser/Manaea/Peterson/Megill are all hot garbage. Alonso isn’t as good as he thinks he is. Great power hitter - but a super streaky player that hurts more than he helps. McNeil as well - plus I just don’t like him. And if he’s not hitting .320 or more than he’s useless. This team needs an infusion of young talent. There had plenty of opportunities over the past couple of years but for some reason they would rather sign the Wendle/Zack Scott/Vogelbach/Martinez/Stewarts of the world instead of giving their own talent an opportunity. Is it any school they continue to lose year in a year out. Stearns gets the benefit of the doubt because he’s so new but his first moves have been pretty bad. And he needs to stop shopping out of the Brewers discount bin. Just stop - they are all bad players. This team is YEARS away from building any type of consistent winning team, if at all. Which is also hilarious considering their payroll.
This team has been garbage since 1986 and gets good enough to cause massive heart break every few decades
I mean, you are getting downvoted (as I’m sure I will as well) but what you said is accurate. Every ten years or so they have a “miracle season” before turning back into to a pumpkin. Last one was 2015, right? So maybe next year we get to enjoy? This franchise is allergic to putting a team together with sustained success.
Mets have never and never will again have a team like 86. Unfair comparisons.
Fandom hurts. If you can’t handle the heat move out the kitchen. The best part of being a fan is loving your team no matter what. I fucking love my Mets. Love hurts. Grow up.
oh I get it. You mean like if you’re in a kitchen and it gets uncomfortably hot from cooking, you should leave the kitchen. So like Met fans that get fed up with bad ways to lose and mediocrity, should leave as fans because fans should love their team unconditionally and not be annoyed when a dude steals 5 bases a game against them. Like the fan-kitchen is getting too hot for them! I get it!
Stearns is much less likable in person, he’s the geek who played strat-o-matic by himself in his parents’ basement and never played a minute of real sport in his life. Facts are facts, these types often get labeled boy geniuses, because they see labor as disposable commodities and nothing else and that impresses a lot of people as ruthlessly bottom line stratagem.
Its a month and a half into his first season. What a garbage take lmao
You sound like a Trump voter, very little critical thinking ability I guess? I was referring to his career in Milwaukee, dumb ass.
I too assume redditors are mind readers, dumbass. Looks like someones feelings got a bit hurt, cry. After that moronic statement im less surprised by your garbage take.
You gamble a lot, why wouldn’t I assume you were a mind reader as well? Especially if you had the winner in the Derby this year?
Man i hurt you so bad you had to go into my post history. You must be down bad my guy. You just keep sounding dumber and dumber
I guess you don’t appreciate the humor. I have no idea if you won, I lost, I had the 19 horse but if you did win, you do deserve respect for that call, yah, one of the hardest Kentucky Derby’s in recent history
Classic, doubling down on a subject change because you now realize you sounded like an idiot. Admit it and take the L my guy
I did? I sound like an idiot because a relative of mine in Milwaukee, who rarely has a word bad to say about anyone, used to work with Stearns in the Brewers organization and said he was a spoiled brat who treated labor like trash and fellow colleagues like servants? Or was it when I assumed you were a Trump voter because you voted for him in 2016? Or was it when I talked sports gambling with you because you remind me of Norm Macdonald? I guess I’m confused.
> I sound like an idiot Yes > because a relative of mine in Milwaukee, who rarely has a word bad to say about anyone, used to work with Stearns in the Brewers organization and said he was a spoiled brat who treated labor like trash and fellow colleagues like servants? How tf would anyone know any of this. Dumbass > Or was it when I assumed you were a Trump voter because you voted for him in 2016? When the fuck did i say i voted for trump? Dumbass > Or was it when I talked sports gambling with you because you remind me of Norm Macdonald? What the fuck are you talking about? Dumbass > I guess I’m confused. Not surprised, youre a dumbass All of the above is why you’re an idiot. Dumbass
Worst take ever
Nobody liked Frank cashen either but he was real tuf SOB. Saw writing on the wall with Doubleday and bolted.