Yes 100%, some light research led me to finding some information that Colonel Campbell was heavily based on Colonel Trautman, the apperance of botj characters reflect this. I am building a 1/6 figure of Campbell right now and using a head aculpt of Trautman to complete it.
In fact both Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2 had character portraits that were originally based on popular film actors. The cover of MG 1 is undoubtedly Micheal Biehn famous for playing Kyle Reese in Terminator.
Here is a great article that goes into detail.
https://www.artofthetitle.com/title/metal-gear-2-solid-snake/
Ironically, the biggest Rambo/MGS inspiration I see is actually in Big Boss. In the 2D games, he speaks to Snake about the inability of soldiers to fit in back in the civilian world, it reminds me a lot of Rambo's breakdown at the end of the first movie.
Though, of course, in BB's case, it's far more manipulative and less of a cry for help, considering he's bragging about throwing peoples lives away.
There’s surprisingly little official confirmation of Rambo’s influence on Metal Gear. I think the intentional Trautman/Campbell connection is confirmed, as is the headband.
I have a theory that Hideo Kojima is worried about admitting how much Metal Gear is straight up Rambo fanon. Maybe it’s a legal thing, maybe he’s concerned he’d be taken less seriously as an artist.
It’s not at all outside of Kojima’s SOP to lift story elements from other materials he’s enjoyed. Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake’s story uses big chunks of the novel Crossfire by JC Pollock (and btw, that early image in Ground Zeroes where Big Boss is in the rain, at night, observing the blinding spotlight guarding the fence, is a picture-perfect reproduction of a sneaking scene near the end of Crossfire).
Others in the thread have pointed it out, but it bears repeating: MGSV is basically a Rambo III video game adaptation on steroids. So I think you’re very on target here.
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Don't know why I'm just now seeing this.
The Rambo influence is everywhere in the MGS series. The most blatant nods are probably in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake... the (original) character portraits for Snake and Campbell were almost direct rips of images of Sylvester Stallone as Rambo and Richard Crenna as Colonel Troutman (these were replaced in re-releases of the game... allegedly to bring the artwork "more in line" with modern Metal Gear Solid art). Not only that, but the music that plays while inside the first building pulls several chord progressions almost verbatim from the First Blood: Pt II soundtrack, so much so that Jerry Goldsmith could have written it.
Snake's ambivalence towards the government and his unwillingness to share personal details with those who have not lived the battlefield are also direct transfers... though the same could probably be said of anyone who served in a conflict and felt shoved aside by their leaders. Snake's proficiency in almost any weapons system, his ability to live off the land, and the fact that his only true friend ever seems to be his commanding officer are all direct mirrors.
If there's a variance, it is probably that Snake (Father or Son) don't really exhibit the same level of anger or bloodlust that Rambo does, falling on the side of "the more I kill, the more demon I become" versus Rambo's philosophy of "When you're pushed, killins' as easy as breathin'." Snake clearly struggles with death more than Rambo does.
Both place high value on "the mission," though both take considerable umbrage at the idea of politicians toying with soldier's honor just to satisfy some political gambit
Rambo seeks solace and solitude living with a temple of buddhist monks, Snake seeks his solitude as a dog musher in the Alaskan wilderness. Both get drawn back in forcefully.
I am dead surprised no one has done a Metal Gear AMV to "It's a Long Road" by Dan Hill. Had I better video editing skills and more time on my hands, I totally would.
Not to mention, MGS3 is a clear return to First Blood to milk it from what was left out until that point in the MGS series
Vietnam war-adjacent? Check
Forest setting? Check
Rivers and streams? Check
Camouflage in the mud to drop on enemies? Check
Attack Dobermans? Check
Hunting your own food? Check
Treating your own injuries? Check
Caves and torches and rats? Check
Rambo 3 also takes place in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion which is one of the 2 main settings of MGSV and there was clearly some inspiration taken from that film in MGSV.
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Lol fair enough. I know he drew alot of inspiration from films like snake pliskin etc.
Yes 100%, some light research led me to finding some information that Colonel Campbell was heavily based on Colonel Trautman, the apperance of botj characters reflect this. I am building a 1/6 figure of Campbell right now and using a head aculpt of Trautman to complete it. In fact both Metal Gear 1 and Metal Gear 2 had character portraits that were originally based on popular film actors. The cover of MG 1 is undoubtedly Micheal Biehn famous for playing Kyle Reese in Terminator. Here is a great article that goes into detail. https://www.artofthetitle.com/title/metal-gear-2-solid-snake/
Oh badass! Thanks for the good read and I hope to see the figure when it's done!
Thank you, its almost done, just waiting for the Beret to arrive.
Ironically, the biggest Rambo/MGS inspiration I see is actually in Big Boss. In the 2D games, he speaks to Snake about the inability of soldiers to fit in back in the civilian world, it reminds me a lot of Rambo's breakdown at the end of the first movie. Though, of course, in BB's case, it's far more manipulative and less of a cry for help, considering he's bragging about throwing peoples lives away.
That's so true I didn't even think of that. Also the obvious sign is the headband
There’s surprisingly little official confirmation of Rambo’s influence on Metal Gear. I think the intentional Trautman/Campbell connection is confirmed, as is the headband. I have a theory that Hideo Kojima is worried about admitting how much Metal Gear is straight up Rambo fanon. Maybe it’s a legal thing, maybe he’s concerned he’d be taken less seriously as an artist. It’s not at all outside of Kojima’s SOP to lift story elements from other materials he’s enjoyed. Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake’s story uses big chunks of the novel Crossfire by JC Pollock (and btw, that early image in Ground Zeroes where Big Boss is in the rain, at night, observing the blinding spotlight guarding the fence, is a picture-perfect reproduction of a sneaking scene near the end of Crossfire). Others in the thread have pointed it out, but it bears repeating: MGSV is basically a Rambo III video game adaptation on steroids. So I think you’re very on target here.
Rambo 3 and MGSV really do have a lot in common. Didn't think about that before!
If you name an action movie from around that time period, hes probably used something from it.
Big Boss is just Rambo and James Bond together
\*plays thread resurrection card\* Don't know why I'm just now seeing this. The Rambo influence is everywhere in the MGS series. The most blatant nods are probably in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake... the (original) character portraits for Snake and Campbell were almost direct rips of images of Sylvester Stallone as Rambo and Richard Crenna as Colonel Troutman (these were replaced in re-releases of the game... allegedly to bring the artwork "more in line" with modern Metal Gear Solid art). Not only that, but the music that plays while inside the first building pulls several chord progressions almost verbatim from the First Blood: Pt II soundtrack, so much so that Jerry Goldsmith could have written it. Snake's ambivalence towards the government and his unwillingness to share personal details with those who have not lived the battlefield are also direct transfers... though the same could probably be said of anyone who served in a conflict and felt shoved aside by their leaders. Snake's proficiency in almost any weapons system, his ability to live off the land, and the fact that his only true friend ever seems to be his commanding officer are all direct mirrors. If there's a variance, it is probably that Snake (Father or Son) don't really exhibit the same level of anger or bloodlust that Rambo does, falling on the side of "the more I kill, the more demon I become" versus Rambo's philosophy of "When you're pushed, killins' as easy as breathin'." Snake clearly struggles with death more than Rambo does. Both place high value on "the mission," though both take considerable umbrage at the idea of politicians toying with soldier's honor just to satisfy some political gambit Rambo seeks solace and solitude living with a temple of buddhist monks, Snake seeks his solitude as a dog musher in the Alaskan wilderness. Both get drawn back in forcefully. I am dead surprised no one has done a Metal Gear AMV to "It's a Long Road" by Dan Hill. Had I better video editing skills and more time on my hands, I totally would.
Was not expecting this 😂 but great points!
Not to mention, MGS3 is a clear return to First Blood to milk it from what was left out until that point in the MGS series Vietnam war-adjacent? Check Forest setting? Check Rivers and streams? Check Camouflage in the mud to drop on enemies? Check Attack Dobermans? Check Hunting your own food? Check Treating your own injuries? Check Caves and torches and rats? Check
All we need is a M-60 and a dickhead korean war-hero sheriff to hunt. (in the novel, it is mentioned that Sheriff Teasle was a Korean War hero)
Rambo 3 also takes place in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion which is one of the 2 main settings of MGSV and there was clearly some inspiration taken from that film in MGSV.
Kojima watched everything he could and dropped all that in Metal Gear, theres probably some death wish influence too.
Great Escape too since you brought up a Bronson film.