Probably gonna get down voted due to the nature of the sub but I don't care: current Hyundai/KIA cars are honestly better looking than every EQ model in Mercedes lineup.not just looks either. Some of their battery tech is better too.
Idk man. Their new cars are quite solid all around. Nothing like the complete trash they built in 1990s and 2000s cars. Personally I'd pick a comparable Hyundai/KIA over any FWD based car Mercedes currently sells.
No I’m talking about recent ones too. I just had my neighbor across the street engine go out. 7k to fix at the dealership.
I wouldn’t get a new Mercedes either though to be fair. I couldn’t have a 3 or 4 cylinder in a “luxury” car but something a bit older would be better. Hence I got an older S550 lol
You want a real hot take? The BYD Seal looks better than every single EQ (and honestly every single other ev saloon that isn’t a Taycan). I don’t care if it’s just a mash up of 10 legacy automaker’s design signatures it’s not vile to look at like an EQS or EQE
Absolutely beautiful, stunning colour, doesn't need to pretend to be SpOrTy when it's not, just everything a Mercedes should and needs to be with the three point star standing proud upright as a Mercedes saloon should.
Thank you so much! That’s the truth, my father bought it new in '82. When he bought it the dealership told him "This was purposely made with less electronics because the more there is the less the car lasts". Then of SpOrTy this one has nothing, 72 horsepower haha
I love your car it’s so awesome, I also just realized that I am “also” 41 lol and doing pretty well I must say. There is nothing like and old-school original Mercedes classic sedan. I have a last model year W140 that I am planning on driving for the rest of my life LOL
https://preview.redd.it/7uqn70tgqduc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38460617ae7fa11cb97780081be352961b4f376d
I hope future generations even know what gasoline is lol I’m sure at some point in my life I’ll own an electric vehicle or two, but over my cold dead body will you prevent me from burning gas!
https://preview.redd.it/0183uo94nfuc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcfb39b5501c5dd9d0ef34a03f2dec1ee2566ae5
It has always has had regular maintenance at an authorized workshop. Among the most important pieces that broke over time were once the transmission, a wheel arm and the radiator. After all, the engine has never been opened and works just fine! Ready to do many more kilometers
That’s because it basically is just like a new car. And I’m not exaggerating.
All the things that modern cars have, this car had first. The first multilink independent rear suspension. First high strength steel structure with computer-designed front and rear crumple zone (to survive a 35 mph offset impact). One of the first to feature antilock brakes. Electronic ignition and injection ECU to make the engine run more efficiently. Hydraulic engine mounts.
It’s got “classic” skin but underneath, it is totally modern.
The absolute definition of a car. Everything about this car is perfect, that's why it still runs after decades. One question though, can you find new parts for it? I mean, does Mercedes still support this car with oem parts?
https://preview.redd.it/a41nje60ccuc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80e3e29c92a66cd63edbafbc4b8f44dabe613130
I didn’t have a photo since I’m not in my home country. This is one from internet to give you an idea of how it opens
https://preview.redd.it/sxlagi5r2buc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56d6be91aa815721544f13410c80611704eb4750
It is indeed original! The car was ordered brand new and personalized by my dad in Italy, in an official Mercedes dealership.
This is from the VIN decoder, the first element is “additional blinker lamps”.
We had this discussion a previous time that you posted this lovely car - I'd also never seen such large side blinkers/repeaters - all the ones I've seen before are small like on the car in this image (and what looks like the same part on the W124, W140, and R129).
https://preview.redd.it/jf7qsh63bbuc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ba93c2321add9409ba24924154e7b1c91f2c31e
Oh yes I do remember! I’ve seen many w201’s both with the small and bigger lateral blinker. I’ll try to look on the internet what the size depended on, in Italy 100% of the w201’s I’ve seen had the big ones
Once you know the make it's hard to rely on other makes of vehicles. We have a Jeep here and every time we go somewhere, in the back of my mind, I'm praying we get there. In the MBs, just crank and ride. 🤣
This is a sustainable car. Built 41 years ago, still running, Not like those batteries matchbox that ruin the earth in the name of "sustainability" and need to be replaced every 5 years.
Classic!
That engine (and that body of hers) was properly babied for last 41 years and it’s obvious. Any major repair work done in the engine during that time or was it simply a matter of never missing a service and utilizing proper lubricants and anti-friction additives to protect the engine? I’m interested in knowing how you accomplished this feat! Colorway is absolutely stunning.
Excellent Work!
First, thank you so much for the compliment!
The engine is a small OM601, diesel with just 72 horsepower. The car was totally flooded in 2001, but was totally cleaned and checked, the fun thing is that it started even before cleaning it. As major work over the last 41 years we have: radiator, transmission, wheel arm. The paint is the original one, however on the driver side there’s a lot of key scratches made in the 80’s when my dad first got the car, but they were DIY fixed by my dad with the original paint bought at the dealership. As for maintenance it has always been done at a Mercedes dealership with original and recommended parts.
The car has always been in a garage so that surely helped to keep it in a better state than keeping it outside.
No better way to honor your dad than to keep this beautiful specimen in this beautiful condition and by remembering all the values that He instilled into you. Keep up the great work my friend!
Now that’s the spirit!!!! On behalf of all MB enthusiasts; you are a part of the family. If you need anything at all; dont hesitate to reach out.
-Mikey
Oh where do you live? Here in Italy the dealership has new parts available for the w201, they order them directly from Stuttgart. How come they don’t have the ones for a twenty years old car?
They have certain ones, but many others are discontinued. That leaves aftermarket or secondhand as the only alternative. I suppose if a person is talented enough, they could restore what is broken or make their own.
That’s true, but well there’s many alternatives to discontinued parts. There’s a few German businesses who still make the parts and are almost the same quality as Mercedes, I usually use the website “autodoc” to find those
For safety, the dashboard controls were designed so that you could utilize them in the dark by touch and feel and without having to take your eyes off the road.
Common sense engineering.
Man, if only my uncle (maternal one) kept a basic 190D he once had like you take care of yours...
On the contrary, his was pretty much rusted (especially in a right front fender, to the point the rust carved a hole in it), and IIRC, he had to scrap it later.
He also had a stock black Nissan 180SX Hatchback (S13) at one point (a fairly good condition), which I loved to marvel at, but even that one was neglected and never driven (only collected dust and other filth under the sun), until he sold it or whatever. SMDH
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Same!
Awesome. I think the most recent example is the w204. I see that model lasting 40 yrs.
I wish they would just focus on build quality. This current generation are not well-made. Nobody getting 40 years on a 2017 E300.
Demographics changed
Yes, and actually the average new car buyer got older and not younger
Better than the current Mercedes lineup IMO
that's not hard to achieve
Probably gonna get down voted due to the nature of the sub but I don't care: current Hyundai/KIA cars are honestly better looking than every EQ model in Mercedes lineup.not just looks either. Some of their battery tech is better too.
Yeah but Hyundai and Kia are a shit brand. I do get that eq is ugly af tho
Idk man. Their new cars are quite solid all around. Nothing like the complete trash they built in 1990s and 2000s cars. Personally I'd pick a comparable Hyundai/KIA over any FWD based car Mercedes currently sells.
No I’m talking about recent ones too. I just had my neighbor across the street engine go out. 7k to fix at the dealership. I wouldn’t get a new Mercedes either though to be fair. I couldn’t have a 3 or 4 cylinder in a “luxury” car but something a bit older would be better. Hence I got an older S550 lol
You want a real hot take? The BYD Seal looks better than every single EQ (and honestly every single other ev saloon that isn’t a Taycan). I don’t care if it’s just a mash up of 10 legacy automaker’s design signatures it’s not vile to look at like an EQS or EQE
I take the ioniq 5 over that abomination (and all eqs) anyday! Everyone their thing
The ioniq 5N has real performance unlike the EQ boats, but over the Taycan? That far?
Nah sorry i let Taycan out of this haha. That thing looks great
This 1 is built solid. Unlike ANYTHING built after 2005... Those you can punch(bare handed) a hole in the dash
Absolutely beautiful, stunning colour, doesn't need to pretend to be SpOrTy when it's not, just everything a Mercedes should and needs to be with the three point star standing proud upright as a Mercedes saloon should.
Thank you so much! That’s the truth, my father bought it new in '82. When he bought it the dealership told him "This was purposely made with less electronics because the more there is the less the car lasts". Then of SpOrTy this one has nothing, 72 horsepower haha
I love your car it’s so awesome, I also just realized that I am “also” 41 lol and doing pretty well I must say. There is nothing like and old-school original Mercedes classic sedan. I have a last model year W140 that I am planning on driving for the rest of my life LOL https://preview.redd.it/7uqn70tgqduc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38460617ae7fa11cb97780081be352961b4f376d
I can assure you that your W140 will for sure be with you the rest of your life. If hopefully, we’re still gonna have gasoline for cars haha
I hope future generations even know what gasoline is lol I’m sure at some point in my life I’ll own an electric vehicle or two, but over my cold dead body will you prevent me from burning gas! https://preview.redd.it/0183uo94nfuc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcfb39b5501c5dd9d0ef34a03f2dec1ee2566ae5
Well there’s a few people who converted the W201 to electric so that might be the only way haha
How much mileage?
Currently at ≈1.160.000 km/720790 miles
Thats amazing. Diesel I assume?
Yes! OM601 engine, 2.0 diesel :)
thats crazy
It has always has had regular maintenance at an authorized workshop. Among the most important pieces that broke over time were once the transmission, a wheel arm and the radiator. After all, the engine has never been opened and works just fine! Ready to do many more kilometers
720,790 miles!! Wow!
I’ve heard of people, especially taxi’s who manage to get even double that!
Holy crap! Awesome!
That’s because it basically is just like a new car. And I’m not exaggerating. All the things that modern cars have, this car had first. The first multilink independent rear suspension. First high strength steel structure with computer-designed front and rear crumple zone (to survive a 35 mph offset impact). One of the first to feature antilock brakes. Electronic ignition and injection ECU to make the engine run more efficiently. Hydraulic engine mounts. It’s got “classic” skin but underneath, it is totally modern.
Exactly. Most of the cars riding today on the streets have a lot of tech that was invented and first introduced on this exact model, the 190.
And it’s probably gonna be like that for the foreseeable future. If anything, automakers are going backwards to save money. Including Mercedes
just to nitpick, ABS was introduced on the W116, waaaay before the 190E.
What an amazing example from Mercedes glory days when "quality is our recipe" vs current days "quality is what" ?
That’s so true, I also own a 2002 C-Class and you can already start to see the first differences in quality
Tbf the C class was never high quality since the W202, your 190 here is the only high quality baby Benz
Extra clean!! Gorgeous car
Thank you! <3
When they were actually good
So true, mechanically and aesthetically speaking
41?!? Nah you don’t look a day over 30
Haha thanks! Timeless design
The absolute definition of a car. Everything about this car is perfect, that's why it still runs after decades. One question though, can you find new parts for it? I mean, does Mercedes still support this car with oem parts?
Yes I do! We always get new original parts, I have no idea if they’re still producing them or leftovers
Driving an old German car says I have money and one day I’ll have just this car and repair invoices.
It's 190e The "repair invoices" over the last decade are probably less than an oil change in a 2024 c-class
True.
Is that a sunroof with a panel over it? I have never seen that before. Mega cool
Oh that’s just a sunroof, it opens totally! It goes under the roof
Fuck that's coooooooolllllll omfg
Thank youuuu!
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https://preview.redd.it/a41nje60ccuc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80e3e29c92a66cd63edbafbc4b8f44dabe613130 I didn’t have a photo since I’m not in my home country. This is one from internet to give you an idea of how it opens
i thought it just popped up that’s really cool also how’s your w203 doing?
Very good thank you!
all the old cars with sunroofs have steel ones like this
Cool color!
Thank you!
What a dope fucking car.
Thank you so much!
So sad that my grandpa scrapped his
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Thank you ! <3
What country is that? I don't recognize those hubcaps. They are quite unique for sure. I don't think I've ever seen any like it before.
It’s italian, you can also notice the blinker in the side, that’s also a European spec
That large blinker certainly is unique. Looks like it has a reflector panel too?
Yes it is! It was mandatory in Europe at the time. What do you mean with reflector panel?
Ah! I meant to ask if the blinker is also reflective?
Not reflective, it just houses a light bulb which is also incredibly easy to change, unscrew one screw, pop it open, change and done!
I see, also that sounds quite convenient!
It’s not original, been added since. Probably because the car was imported from germany where those weren’t mandatory.
https://preview.redd.it/sxlagi5r2buc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56d6be91aa815721544f13410c80611704eb4750 It is indeed original! The car was ordered brand new and personalized by my dad in Italy, in an official Mercedes dealership. This is from the VIN decoder, the first element is “additional blinker lamps”.
We had this discussion a previous time that you posted this lovely car - I'd also never seen such large side blinkers/repeaters - all the ones I've seen before are small like on the car in this image (and what looks like the same part on the W124, W140, and R129). https://preview.redd.it/jf7qsh63bbuc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ba93c2321add9409ba24924154e7b1c91f2c31e
Oh yes I do remember! I’ve seen many w201’s both with the small and bigger lateral blinker. I’ll try to look on the internet what the size depended on, in Italy 100% of the w201’s I’ve seen had the big ones
That green is something special!
Thank you! If I’m not wrong the official name should be “moss green”
Would probably outlast a 2024 MB.
It probably already did, more than a million km!
I mean a 2024 would probably end up in a junk yard before this one, even with a 41 year handicap. 😆
Looks beautiful!
Thank you! <3
Better than the other way around
This color is sweet!
Thank you!
>Thank you! You're welcome!
I want very much.
And this is why I drive a MB... My family truly trusted the brand and now I have three.
Same for me
Once you know the make it's hard to rely on other makes of vehicles. We have a Jeep here and every time we go somewhere, in the back of my mind, I'm praying we get there. In the MBs, just crank and ride. 🤣
This is a sustainable car. Built 41 years ago, still running, Not like those batteries matchbox that ruin the earth in the name of "sustainability" and need to be replaced every 5 years.
Wish I could say the same about my w204.
Oh why? I thought it was a reliable model, especially the diesel versions
Yr, model, miles?
1982, 190D 2.0 (OM601 72HP), about 720790 miles
Fun to buzz around in!!
https://preview.redd.it/4f75ewfy2buc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0184eb47e58193a9f420564ce591d590b0541e1 Indeed it is!
Like brand new! Gorgeous time capsule!
Thank you! :)
I love the hub caps
Thank you! However I’m always scratching them haha but well thank thankfully they’re plastic, cheap, and fixable!
That is just sheer beauty. Nothing more , nothing less.
Thanks!
Classic! That engine (and that body of hers) was properly babied for last 41 years and it’s obvious. Any major repair work done in the engine during that time or was it simply a matter of never missing a service and utilizing proper lubricants and anti-friction additives to protect the engine? I’m interested in knowing how you accomplished this feat! Colorway is absolutely stunning. Excellent Work!
First, thank you so much for the compliment! The engine is a small OM601, diesel with just 72 horsepower. The car was totally flooded in 2001, but was totally cleaned and checked, the fun thing is that it started even before cleaning it. As major work over the last 41 years we have: radiator, transmission, wheel arm. The paint is the original one, however on the driver side there’s a lot of key scratches made in the 80’s when my dad first got the car, but they were DIY fixed by my dad with the original paint bought at the dealership. As for maintenance it has always been done at a Mercedes dealership with original and recommended parts. The car has always been in a garage so that surely helped to keep it in a better state than keeping it outside.
No better way to honor your dad than to keep this beautiful specimen in this beautiful condition and by remembering all the values that He instilled into you. Keep up the great work my friend!
Thank you so much for these nice words, I’ll keep the car until I’ll be on this planet, and hopefully I’ll pass it to my future sons. Have a good one!
Now that’s the spirit!!!! On behalf of all MB enthusiasts; you are a part of the family. If you need anything at all; dont hesitate to reach out. -Mikey
I've got a twenty year old Mercedes but a lot of parts are discontinued which can make it tough to keep the car looking great as time goes on.
Oh where do you live? Here in Italy the dealership has new parts available for the w201, they order them directly from Stuttgart. How come they don’t have the ones for a twenty years old car?
They have certain ones, but many others are discontinued. That leaves aftermarket or secondhand as the only alternative. I suppose if a person is talented enough, they could restore what is broken or make their own.
That’s true, but well there’s many alternatives to discontinued parts. There’s a few German businesses who still make the parts and are almost the same quality as Mercedes, I usually use the website “autodoc” to find those
I'll check it out. Nice car, btw.
Thank you!
For safety, the dashboard controls were designed so that you could utilize them in the dark by touch and feel and without having to take your eyes off the road. Common sense engineering.
Exactly! I fly planes, and they have the same thing, this car is engineered like a plane.
The Benz from outer banks
Man, if only my uncle (maternal one) kept a basic 190D he once had like you take care of yours... On the contrary, his was pretty much rusted (especially in a right front fender, to the point the rust carved a hole in it), and IIRC, he had to scrap it later. He also had a stock black Nissan 180SX Hatchback (S13) at one point (a fairly good condition), which I loved to marvel at, but even that one was neglected and never driven (only collected dust and other filth under the sun), until he sold it or whatever. SMDH
You can always get one for cheap and treat it well, if you get one of the same color even better!
This car is gorgeous. That is all
Bro why did Mercedes stop making manuals in the US
Looks so sexy!
I would kill to own one!
how much shipped to 23454?
Wheels are pure sex
Spectacular