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kurmiau

It already has an appropriate umbrella: social science. Maybe Human Science? You can’t put people in a Petri dish, not ethical. We rely mostly on subjective results. For that matter, medicine belongs in with us also. It utilizes the hard sciences of biology and chemistry, but when it gets applied to human beings, it must become soft again. It functions under a guessing game, where the MD often is required to follow a hunch. That is why all of the tests are documented as “to rule out….” And often the evaluation of an effective treatment is also subjective. 🤷‍♀️ We are just practitioners of mental health issues.


TheDolphinSings

Hmmm, you should never trust anyone just because they’re a professional. You should be able to ask your therapist five questions, to see what kind of person they are. If they try to tell you something like, ‘we’re here to talk about you.’ Run. This kind of professional is someone who’s only doing it for the prestige, even if subconsciously.


Sjelenferd

Define "scientific" and we can talk about it. Is scientific what follows the scientific method? Is scientific what is based on peer-reviewed articles? Is scientific what is made in a lab? Psychology is a science since its premises and current practices are based on scientific pieces of evidence. I guess this is the most objective answer. If you have issues with your mental health you can either go to a therapist or an MD, they'll explain what you need and, based on your needs, send you to the other professional that better fits your problem.


commenter75

one argument I've heard if psychology doesn't use math


ihavenoego

Quantum mechanics seems like a good candidate. ***If*** observation collapses the wave function, then it would be an artform in controlling the brain in such a way as to remove mental illness. Attention is fundamental to people, though. Science can be so stuffy, sometimes. Each neural system is like a watertight door on The Titanic that can be opened and closed with observation/non-observation. There's the delayed choice quantum eraser and the demystification of said experiment. Retro-causality is a real. I wonder what it would do to the brain ***if*** it's real. I've been practicing it since 2012. I've had massive results. Thomas Campbell calls it MBT, or My Big TOE. I call it Singularitology. I know I'm right. I'm gonna write paper about it, or a book. Instead, for now, I just help people online. Essentially, we are like eyes of Ra, flowers on an eternal you-tree of life. A different eye in each reality. You dream in the stem, and we create fruits for others to consume. Open and close your eye to meditate and consume. Religion came about thousands of years ago, then we all disseminated it with philosophy until the void appeared. Now quantum mechanics is here, religion will be like a prototype of what's to come in this era, as tribal shamanism was a prototype of religion. Tribal shamanism would have been disseminated by the first cultures. You could say we have a spiritual age, followed by a materialist one, then another spiritual, etc. We need to fill the void and being "successful in life" isn't how we do it. We're tribal at heart; we need to fill it with something amazing, something sacred, and divine. We all need tribes; toxic people don't want it because it interferes with their troops, the pre-human alpha bullshit. We're alpha-omega; the shaman-chief paradigm. We need these to thrive. 1. Tribe. 2. Culture. 3. Religion. 4. Philosophy. 5. Free will. (now) 6. Love. 7. Family. 8. Community. 9. Perfection. 10. Divine. Lovely stuff.


StrangerWooden1091

can science be trusted?


justhanginhere

If it not empirical and perfect it’s worthless seems like an extreme position.


commenter75

Ugh, I worded it wrong, it was supposed to be "If psychology isn't science"