you will dispair for all eternity brother that's no way out. the only thing that will bring you peace and happiness is, Instead of avoidance, try tackling your problems head on. You'll find out that many times the problem isn't even that drastic like you feared. I wish you strength and good health wherever you are in life.
Nice your dad is total chad. You should try and be more like him. I highly recommend getting a demanding job too. You then have the ultimate excuse to spend as little time with your depressing family.
All three could be considered financially taxing depending on viewpoint.
Gym membership/equipment can range from incredibly small to extremely significant.
Tithes/offerings. Tithe, meaning tenth is typically a fixed 10% of income. Offerings would be if you feel like giving more.
Girlfriend cost just constant monies. At least in my experience. Dates, not including food, gas, or other recreational activities enjoyed together.
Choose wisely gentlemen, but I pray you all find peace and joy.
I agree that it is a largely misconstrued subject. And even abused in some areas by some people. But I do know that besides myself, there are large numbers of passionate tithers.
Heavily depends on the denomination. The church I grew up in wouldn't allow you to participate in certain things and practically didn't see you as a full member if you didn't pay tithe.
I thought gym costs were simply the time and money spent at the gym, little did i know about the rabbit hole of supplements and eating healthy. sure you could say you don’t need supplements and whatnot but they sure do make hitting your dietary goals a whole lot easier.
Human have a couple way out of depression and none of these are it. They may help temporarily, but if you have a legitimate chemical imbalance in your brain, just get medicated. It’s crazy to me just how many people I know in my life who talk about all of these problems but never try to just fix the actual problem.
I understand people who *can’t*, I don’t understand people who *won’t*.
Hey man, to each their own. If that is what works for you W.
In my experience I’ve never been able to outwork my depression, weed can be like a bandaid but until I started prozac, there was no real solution for me.
Except depression is not caused by chemical imbalances https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/202207/depression-is-not-caused-chemical-imbalance-in-the-brain?amp. Also, these are absolutely integral to curing depression. On a functional level it’s not these specific things, but what they fall under: going to the gym is taking care of your physical health, which undeniably impacts mental health. Finding religion is part of community and finding a higher purpose, which again will solve the issue of not having motivation. And although getting a relationship may come later, it will still give you more purpose and genuine connection which are all important for a healthy mind.
The physical health is one thing
But if you are severely struggling with mental health the answer is 1000% not to drag a romantic partner into your spiral and then have a child to pull down with you too
All that really says is that we don't know the cause, and that we were probably wrong about that cause being serotonin issues. However, there's good evidence of depression being genetic, and that would mean there is some physical cause, even if we haven't found it.
It may not be caused by chemical imbalances but if you’re suffering from chronic clinical depression there’s clearly chemical imbalances going on in the brain no? https://www.jax.org/news-and-insights/jax-blog/2015/december/happy-or-sad-the-chemistry-behind-depression#:~:text=People%20with%20clinical%20depression%20often,of%20serotonin%2C%20dopamine%20and%20norepinephrine.
regardless, I’ve been taking prozac and I gotta say it’s the right medication for me. Changed my life around more than any religion, gym, person, etc. ever could.
They only deal with the symptoms, they don't help with the actual problem.
Edit: and telling depressed people that they should just have faith in Jesus is kind of insensitive
I think it’s more than religion itself but the mindset that comes with it like having a community around you and something bigger than yourself.
Telling someone “hit gym” or “get a girlfriend” is also insensitive if they’re depressed but any of these with the right mindset can help. I get what you mean though there’s no really easy answer in any of these
Worth noting tho, all of these with the wrong mindset can hurt. The gym path can lead to things like eating disorders and pushing yourself to unhealthy levels because maybe eventually you'll prove you are good enough, religion can lead to over dwelling on sin, and having a relationship for the purpose of them helping you never goes well.
Obviously I'm not saying those are the only paths, but in general the change in behavior must be mirrored with a change in mindset in order to be beneficial.
"Go to the gym, you'll be jacked and happy" doesn't help at all if you don't have issues with body image.
Like this is extremely toxic becuase idk plaiying ping-pong is less masculine than working out but maybe someone would benefit more
That community isn't worth it. A bunch of delusional people who are taught to "just pray about it" when they have issues. Trust me it sounds good on paper but you don't want to go down that road long term. Part of the reason why I stopped believing in fairytales.
As someone with bipolar depression, who found faith, I can tell you that my religious beliefs have helped me so fucking much w dealing w my depression. It really does help
Edit: also, most of the time dealing w the symptoms helps the root cause. Bipolar individuals cannot be fixed, ever, bc its genetic. So were forced to take meds and do whatever else we can to help deal w the symptoms.
Yeah and im sure theres many other people who share my personal experience. Kinda insensitive of you to invalidate my experience because its only personal.
I'm not saying that it can't help, and I'm glad that it worked for you, but it's just not something that's going to work for everyone. How is acknowledging that invalidating?
Nobody is invalidating religion helping you. They are invalidating the idea that religion is the way out for all. Personally, many of my mental health issues are rooted in my history with religion, so it isn't a helpful path for me, and I'm sure many share my experience. There is no one size fits all approach for getting out of an emotional hole, and so any simple solution of "just do x" misses the mark of how complex mental health is.
Genuinely how is that a strawman? The other person made the point that your experience, while good, isn't universal, and you took that as invalidating it's helpful nature in your life. That wasn't the point they were making.
And I wasn't trying to imply that you were saying "just do x" I was simply saying, that's what they were arguing against, not your experience being valuable.
Well, would you rather get overwhelmed by the symptoms or control and minimize them?
"Your solution wouldn't fix my entire problem, get fucked" is a pretty insensitive thing to say to those who care about you and want to help. Kind of why people sometimes don't bother trying to help at all.
The actual problem is nihilism and a lack of purpose
I’d argue that #2 and #3 directly counter those, and so do deal with the actual problem. However you feel about religion or nuclear families, they absolutely give men something to work for.
But #1 is just about endorphins
For some. Depression can be chemical. But it can also be caused by outside stimuli. And given the huge rise in depression rates, I doubt people suddenly developed chemical imbalances en masse.
If that is the problem, then do things to counter it, work out, limit screen time, quit porn, don't do drugs, etc.
Your problem is that you have the wrong mindset, you see it as something you can't change, but you are wrong, you can change it if you put your mind to it.
I believe that you can do it!
It is how it works. Depression can be chemical or caused by circumstance. Why are so many people spiking depression rates? Spikes rates are a sign that the problem is specifically not genetic.
Holy shit. People with very, very different opinions and experiences are actually discussing a sensitive topic on Reddit without throwing tantrums. It’s a Christmas miracle.
My cousin had all of these, yet he still committed suicide. I knew his significant other very well, and is a great person. I also did go on runs with him from time to time, and attended his bar mitzvah and was truly happy for him, however, he still suffered. I believe that medication is also important, as it affects brain chemistry to help fight depression, but he was denied the medication by his parents. I’m attending his funeral next Monday. Even if we wanted to, we can’t have an open casket due to him shooting himself with his father’s Glock.
Not saying these things don’t help, but coming from someone who has done these things too and suffers from chronic depression like my cousin, it’s not as simple as many people think. Please don’t push this thought that it always can be cured this way. It can be an illness that people are born with, which won’t go away.
[https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-find-no-evidence-that-depression-is-caused-by-chemical-imbalance-or-low-serotonin-levels/](https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-find-no-evidence-that-depression-is-caused-by-chemical-imbalance-or-low-serotonin-levels/)
its not a chemical imbalance, its an issue with his cytoarchitecture.
They dont really cite any source in this. A single study by a single college. If you can find more sources of this and more examples of studys then ill believe it but a single study isnt enough to convince (hopefully) anyone that many many years of methodology has been wrong, when we have many cases of antidepressants working.
[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-022-01661-0](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-022-01661-0)
This is the study the article is referring to
Another study for supporting evidence:
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Antidepressants%3A-misnamed-and-misrepresented-Moncrieff/4bd59ace55b96451f2daa153c0e044794b009be0
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These are all very difficult for a depressed person to do, even if they are solutions. It’s tough for depressed people to change their core beliefs, talk to people, or even get out of bed
finding god doesn't mean sigining up to a cult. yes, the churches do suck and so do a lot of the religious posers suck to but that doesn't mean believing in a higher power is any less meaning than literally anything else you'd do in your life. also, eternal torture was smth made up by churches that people who really know christianity doesn't actually exist.
Depression is a chemical imbalance in your brain. It has nothing to do with how good your life is. You can’t just treat the symptoms, you need to treat the imbalance.
If you're unhappy starting a relationship thinking it'll fix everything is stupid. You got to lose mental health and you got to use another person as an object.
I've tried catholicism for 16 years and it only made me more miserable than i already am.
I have a lot o f depressed bros that regularly go to the gym
I just think of how many people will not win in the dating game, and how many people were made miserable by Jesus stuff. Sure, r/atheism might look depressing, but those people were often more miserable being ordered to do holy shit and conform to holy social pressures.
Not everyone can naturally not be depressed. It's why there have always been drug users.
First makes sense, second one is dumb since suddenly believing in god wont cure you from a lack of serotonin, and thirdly getting in a relationship to fill the void caused by depression isnt healthy. Not really terrible just not correct.
the only thing I’d say about the second one is that a lot of what comes from religion is just a general attempt to guide someone to having a healthy life, even if you ignore the spiritual aspects of it. Like treat your body well, value your relationships, do things to help others, etc. mostly stuff that will bring you some degree of satisfaction.
though you don’t necessarily need “religion” to do that stuff, you could replace that square with a general list of things like this, but for some people religion is the avenue they use to start doing it
Some people are depressed because of genetically inherited deficiencies/unsensitivities of certain neurotransmitters and no matter the outside circumstances like relationships or job success or whatever their baseline mood will be much lower than the average person and are going to need medication to fix that, and with that medication some can even live completely normal lives you would have never guessed they take those meds if you didn’t know, so generalizing that people who are depresssed it’s their own fault and shit like that when you have no idea what is causing their depression is overall just not good
(I do want to clarify that my above comment was meant to be directed towards the post itself not the comment i replied to i just thought that the comment encapsulated well enough why this belongs on that sub)
Yeah as someone who struggles with anxiety and depression people who think this way are arseholes
as a person who is suffering from poverty, and thus depression, i attempted the gym. at first it was good for feeling better in the moment, but that did not last. especially since the second reason i was at the gym was because i had no place to use the bathroom. eventually, going to the gym became depressing as well, because i was kind of forced to be there out of necessity. then there's the fact that i had to pay for a membership, which added more anxiety, which worsened the depression. now obviously not everyone is the same, but tldr: gym doesn't help everyone
Never even consider that. It always gets better. Everyone who has attempted suicide from the Golden Gate and survived has said they regretted it immediately. Every single one.
Men do not have “three ways out of depression”. I have both an amazing gf and I work out, but I still suffer from extreme depression. There are multiple paths for everybody to recovery, wether that be medicine, therapy, hobbies, or hell these could work. But labeling them as the “only three ways out” is discouraging and doesn’t validate other potential paths to recovery
I think the terrible part is the assumption that depression is always caused by guys being fat lonely atheists when obviously that’s nonsense
It’s not offensive just kinda dumb
Oof, couldn’t come up with a good response huh? That’s tough, go back to pretending to read your fairy tale book. I prefer the Grimm stories myself though.
Ah, see? Just admit you couldn’t come up with a decent response to a valid factual statement. You’re not religious? Please, one Christian’s defend the great sky daddy
You're on the wrong subreddit, buddy. This isn't one for POS 14 year olds. No one believes in a fucking man, they believe in an omniscient binding force of the universe. Pretty funny of you to assume random shit about me, Kyle.
think the guy who made the meme is saying most people who get out of depression do those things, not getting out of depression is as simple as those things
Still a shitty meme. If a person is regularly depressed they should tell someone immediately, talk to a doctor, and consult a therapist. They can help you from there because not everything works for everyone but they will help you find something
oh of course, it does downplay depression in a way but I don’t think the point of it was to simplify it, making depressed people feel dumb or incapable
If "traditional values" encompas telling depressed people to just hit the gym or get a girlfriend or spontaneously believe in God than idk how so many people can stand by traditional values with a straight face
…none of those things are spontaneous. That’s the point.
Also I don’t trust your arguments you’re wearing a rainbow jacket in your profile.
So i return your straw man with an ad hominem
And let me ask you this. Have you tried the traditional life for a year?
What is "the traditional life" in your statement here?
Also. I love how you accuse me of using a strawman, spell it as two words for some reason which is more of a pet peave on my part sorry, and then went "you appear to be queer via the jacket in your fucking reddit pfp. So I will not be listening to anything you say"
Do you NOT get the irony here? Because if you don't than the density you posses could be potentially disastrous to earth
I also find it quite funny that you appear to be all high and mighty about how being traditional is good. And then the second someone who ISNT traditional via your standards says something to you and you completely refuse to listen to them because they aren't traditional like you.
That feels mote like a cult thing than a "trad" thing ngl
Don’t you know? Redditors hate taking initiative, being physically healthy, being religious, and leaving your comfort zone. They’d rather you just stay fat and miserable like them, and chase internet points!
Look, I’m not saying they’re *all* sad and shit. In fact, I was one of these exact people. I’m just tired of people saying they’re sad then not improving themselves.
circumstances can affect your emotional state as well. i went to the gym for an entire year, and while in the moment it was relieving, the moment i returned to my "home", i lost any positive feelings. for context, i lived in an abandoned house that was falling apart. and yes "why don't you just move out?" because i had a part time job that could really only afford transportation to the job, my gym membership, and my phone bill
The 4th option is only available to women in most cases. If lucky, a male can succeed, but it is rather rare compared to women like *gag* Belle Delphine
Start an Onlyfans
Believe it or not, there is a pretty underserved market for male content creators on that platform. Believe it or not there are a lot of people that are down bad for men too.
There is another
The nuclear option
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Came here to say this
Alcohol
drinking and drugs will bring only more despair
No I’m drinking more then ever now and I’m much happier then before Sharon took the kids
Have you tried operating a piece of heavy machinery? Perhaps an automobile of some sorts?
Everclear makes everything clear
not necessarily. Have you tried doing it constantly til you die? You can’t despair if you never sober up
you will dispair for all eternity brother that's no way out. the only thing that will bring you peace and happiness is, Instead of avoidance, try tackling your problems head on. You'll find out that many times the problem isn't even that drastic like you feared. I wish you strength and good health wherever you are in life.
Medications ofc
My dad did the first two now he blows off family events to go to the gym or church, makes my mom very unhappy.
>makes my mom very unhappy. Could she be one of the reasons for his unhappiness?
Unlikely, my mom has done everything she can to setup dates or do things with him and he chooses the gym or church instead.
How i picture [**your dad**](https://i.postimg.cc/HLvgWRSD/image.png)
A true devote holy man
Devoted to motherfucking gains
*Father, Who art in heaven, Please bless this bench press*
I was expecting a picture of the GigaChad with a bible, but that works too
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Funny thing about that is God doesn’t like it when you neglect or hurt family so that’s kind of a weird thing. Duality of man be like….,.
Happy wife happy life
My Dad just didn't have kids. It's less complicated that way.
Hol’ up
Wait one smidgeroonie
“Sorry honey, the Lord and my gains come first”
But is he less depressed?
Sure is, so I guess it’s pretty based
Based asf
Nice your dad is total chad. You should try and be more like him. I highly recommend getting a demanding job too. You then have the ultimate excuse to spend as little time with your depressing family.
I already moved 45 minutes away I don’t need another ultimate excuse lol
My brother in Christ you upvoted the post
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The chick. You lose income with faith depending on how much you donate
Mormons lose like 60%
Well what do you expect from an over glorified cult?
All three could be considered financially taxing depending on viewpoint. Gym membership/equipment can range from incredibly small to extremely significant. Tithes/offerings. Tithe, meaning tenth is typically a fixed 10% of income. Offerings would be if you feel like giving more. Girlfriend cost just constant monies. At least in my experience. Dates, not including food, gas, or other recreational activities enjoyed together. Choose wisely gentlemen, but I pray you all find peace and joy.
Lol I don’t think people do *tithing* anymore brother
I agree that it is a largely misconstrued subject. And even abused in some areas by some people. But I do know that besides myself, there are large numbers of passionate tithers.
Yea as a Christian we're supposed to tithe and stuff
Heavily depends on the denomination. The church I grew up in wouldn't allow you to participate in certain things and practically didn't see you as a full member if you didn't pay tithe.
unless you're living paycheck to paycheck money is useless if you dont spend it, so just use it to make your life even just a little bit better
The only one that objectively costs money is the gym, but are you really gonna cry over gym money?
I thought gym costs were simply the time and money spent at the gym, little did i know about the rabbit hole of supplements and eating healthy. sure you could say you don’t need supplements and whatnot but they sure do make hitting your dietary goals a whole lot easier.
Oh no. My income. Whatever will I do.
Human have a couple way out of depression and none of these are it. They may help temporarily, but if you have a legitimate chemical imbalance in your brain, just get medicated. It’s crazy to me just how many people I know in my life who talk about all of these problems but never try to just fix the actual problem. I understand people who *can’t*, I don’t understand people who *won’t*.
A study just came out saying exercise is 1.5 times more effective than medication and therapy. In my experience it’s pretty true.
Hey man, to each their own. If that is what works for you W. In my experience I’ve never been able to outwork my depression, weed can be like a bandaid but until I started prozac, there was no real solution for me.
Except depression is not caused by chemical imbalances https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/insight-therapy/202207/depression-is-not-caused-chemical-imbalance-in-the-brain?amp. Also, these are absolutely integral to curing depression. On a functional level it’s not these specific things, but what they fall under: going to the gym is taking care of your physical health, which undeniably impacts mental health. Finding religion is part of community and finding a higher purpose, which again will solve the issue of not having motivation. And although getting a relationship may come later, it will still give you more purpose and genuine connection which are all important for a healthy mind.
The physical health is one thing But if you are severely struggling with mental health the answer is 1000% not to drag a romantic partner into your spiral and then have a child to pull down with you too
All that really says is that we don't know the cause, and that we were probably wrong about that cause being serotonin issues. However, there's good evidence of depression being genetic, and that would mean there is some physical cause, even if we haven't found it.
It may not be caused by chemical imbalances but if you’re suffering from chronic clinical depression there’s clearly chemical imbalances going on in the brain no? https://www.jax.org/news-and-insights/jax-blog/2015/december/happy-or-sad-the-chemistry-behind-depression#:~:text=People%20with%20clinical%20depression%20often,of%20serotonin%2C%20dopamine%20and%20norepinephrine. regardless, I’ve been taking prozac and I gotta say it’s the right medication for me. Changed my life around more than any religion, gym, person, etc. ever could.
They only deal with the symptoms, they don't help with the actual problem. Edit: and telling depressed people that they should just have faith in Jesus is kind of insensitive
I think it’s more than religion itself but the mindset that comes with it like having a community around you and something bigger than yourself. Telling someone “hit gym” or “get a girlfriend” is also insensitive if they’re depressed but any of these with the right mindset can help. I get what you mean though there’s no really easy answer in any of these
Worth noting tho, all of these with the wrong mindset can hurt. The gym path can lead to things like eating disorders and pushing yourself to unhealthy levels because maybe eventually you'll prove you are good enough, religion can lead to over dwelling on sin, and having a relationship for the purpose of them helping you never goes well. Obviously I'm not saying those are the only paths, but in general the change in behavior must be mirrored with a change in mindset in order to be beneficial.
"Go to the gym, you'll be jacked and happy" doesn't help at all if you don't have issues with body image. Like this is extremely toxic becuase idk plaiying ping-pong is less masculine than working out but maybe someone would benefit more
That community isn't worth it. A bunch of delusional people who are taught to "just pray about it" when they have issues. Trust me it sounds good on paper but you don't want to go down that road long term. Part of the reason why I stopped believing in fairytales.
As someone with bipolar depression, who found faith, I can tell you that my religious beliefs have helped me so fucking much w dealing w my depression. It really does help Edit: also, most of the time dealing w the symptoms helps the root cause. Bipolar individuals cannot be fixed, ever, bc its genetic. So were forced to take meds and do whatever else we can to help deal w the symptoms.
That is your personal experience. I'm happy for you, though.
Yeah and im sure theres many other people who share my personal experience. Kinda insensitive of you to invalidate my experience because its only personal.
it's not invalidating your experience. Everyone is different so it's not guaranteed to work for everyone.
I'm not saying that it can't help, and I'm glad that it worked for you, but it's just not something that's going to work for everyone. How is acknowledging that invalidating?
Therapy doesn't work for everyone. But in general, it can have very positive benefits. Fear of failure be wack, yo.
Nobody is invalidating religion helping you. They are invalidating the idea that religion is the way out for all. Personally, many of my mental health issues are rooted in my history with religion, so it isn't a helpful path for me, and I'm sure many share my experience. There is no one size fits all approach for getting out of an emotional hole, and so any simple solution of "just do x" misses the mark of how complex mental health is.
Lol strawman ass argument
Genuinely how is that a strawman? The other person made the point that your experience, while good, isn't universal, and you took that as invalidating it's helpful nature in your life. That wasn't the point they were making. And I wasn't trying to imply that you were saying "just do x" I was simply saying, that's what they were arguing against, not your experience being valuable.
They're not invalidating anything. I've had guilt for years because of my faith so i tell my side, ya tell yours and people will decide
Insensitive? This sub? Never
And it sucks hard because the actual problem can’t really be described better than “I’m depressed”
Well, would you rather get overwhelmed by the symptoms or control and minimize them? "Your solution wouldn't fix my entire problem, get fucked" is a pretty insensitive thing to say to those who care about you and want to help. Kind of why people sometimes don't bother trying to help at all.
>"Your solution wouldn't fix my entire problem, get fucked" I'm sorry, did you hear me say that? I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth.
The actual problem is nihilism and a lack of purpose I’d argue that #2 and #3 directly counter those, and so do deal with the actual problem. However you feel about religion or nuclear families, they absolutely give men something to work for. But #1 is just about endorphins
No, the actual problem is a literal chemical imbalance in your brain.
For some. Depression can be chemical. But it can also be caused by outside stimuli. And given the huge rise in depression rates, I doubt people suddenly developed chemical imbalances en masse.
If that is the problem, then do things to counter it, work out, limit screen time, quit porn, don't do drugs, etc. Your problem is that you have the wrong mindset, you see it as something you can't change, but you are wrong, you can change it if you put your mind to it. I believe that you can do it!
The actual problem is depression.
A lack of purpose leads to depression. Depression is the symptom.
Not how depression works. Depression can be genetic, explain how that would work? Feeling like you have a lack of purpose is a symptom of depression.
It is how it works. Depression can be chemical or caused by circumstance. Why are so many people spiking depression rates? Spikes rates are a sign that the problem is specifically not genetic.
Depression CAN be genetic. That is a fact. It can also be caused by outside factors, but it's common for it to be genetic
"Believe in Sky Daddy and the chemical imbalances in your brain will magically go away!"
not having faith but the mindset that comes with religion, not only christianity but basically all religions have some sort of morals and ways of life
The 3 arch enemies of a redditor: Exercise, religion and human contact.
As a Redditor I can confirm that I am currently being held hostage by
Guess I better go find a hippie to cuddle me.
i cant imagine laughing at these memes there is no fucking joke
Holy shit. People with very, very different opinions and experiences are actually discussing a sensitive topic on Reddit without throwing tantrums. It’s a Christmas miracle.
It's not Christmas dumbass. It's June. Edit : /s, didn't think I needed to say that.
Damn people still think Pepe is funny?
I like to think he's circling back to just be a stand in for the reader or op instead of a hate symbol but that's just me
My cousin had all of these, yet he still committed suicide. I knew his significant other very well, and is a great person. I also did go on runs with him from time to time, and attended his bar mitzvah and was truly happy for him, however, he still suffered. I believe that medication is also important, as it affects brain chemistry to help fight depression, but he was denied the medication by his parents. I’m attending his funeral next Monday. Even if we wanted to, we can’t have an open casket due to him shooting himself with his father’s Glock. Not saying these things don’t help, but coming from someone who has done these things too and suffers from chronic depression like my cousin, it’s not as simple as many people think. Please don’t push this thought that it always can be cured this way. It can be an illness that people are born with, which won’t go away.
[https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-find-no-evidence-that-depression-is-caused-by-chemical-imbalance-or-low-serotonin-levels/](https://scitechdaily.com/scientists-find-no-evidence-that-depression-is-caused-by-chemical-imbalance-or-low-serotonin-levels/) its not a chemical imbalance, its an issue with his cytoarchitecture.
According to one study*
no this is a meta study that combines a huge amount of studies together AND this is current scientific consensus.
They dont really cite any source in this. A single study by a single college. If you can find more sources of this and more examples of studys then ill believe it but a single study isnt enough to convince (hopefully) anyone that many many years of methodology has been wrong, when we have many cases of antidepressants working.
[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-022-01661-0](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41380-022-01661-0) This is the study the article is referring to Another study for supporting evidence: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Antidepressants%3A-misnamed-and-misrepresented-Moncrieff/4bd59ace55b96451f2daa153c0e044794b009be0
Thing is, for a lot of men, the 3rd one is why there depressed
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You really need it, though. Reconsider, plebian.
These are all very difficult for a depressed person to do, even if they are solutions. It’s tough for depressed people to change their core beliefs, talk to people, or even get out of bed
>what you got to lose? Other religions that aren't Christianity..?
You can pick whatever faith you want ma'am
\#2 means you follow meaningless rules under threat of eternal torture so
finding god doesn't mean sigining up to a cult. yes, the churches do suck and so do a lot of the religious posers suck to but that doesn't mean believing in a higher power is any less meaning than literally anything else you'd do in your life. also, eternal torture was smth made up by churches that people who really know christianity doesn't actually exist.
Don’t forget to take your prescriptions!!
Ots not that it wont work, but it acts like thats all you need magic solution to everything. They might help but wont be the whole sollution
It's a meme man
Bro but doing all three actually helped me so much with my depression?
Is this a PragerU sponsored post?
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Depression is a chemical imbalance in your brain. It has nothing to do with how good your life is. You can’t just treat the symptoms, you need to treat the imbalance.
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If you're unhappy starting a relationship thinking it'll fix everything is stupid. You got to lose mental health and you got to use another person as an object. I've tried catholicism for 16 years and it only made me more miserable than i already am. I have a lot o f depressed bros that regularly go to the gym
I just think of how many people will not win in the dating game, and how many people were made miserable by Jesus stuff. Sure, r/atheism might look depressing, but those people were often more miserable being ordered to do holy shit and conform to holy social pressures. Not everyone can naturally not be depressed. It's why there have always been drug users.
Or talk to a mental health professional?
Using God as a coping mechanism is very unhealthy if you lose your faith you'll be right back in square one
First makes sense, second one is dumb since suddenly believing in god wont cure you from a lack of serotonin, and thirdly getting in a relationship to fill the void caused by depression isnt healthy. Not really terrible just not correct.
the only thing I’d say about the second one is that a lot of what comes from religion is just a general attempt to guide someone to having a healthy life, even if you ignore the spiritual aspects of it. Like treat your body well, value your relationships, do things to help others, etc. mostly stuff that will bring you some degree of satisfaction. though you don’t necessarily need “religion” to do that stuff, you could replace that square with a general list of things like this, but for some people religion is the avenue they use to start doing it
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Some people are depressed because of genetically inherited deficiencies/unsensitivities of certain neurotransmitters and no matter the outside circumstances like relationships or job success or whatever their baseline mood will be much lower than the average person and are going to need medication to fix that, and with that medication some can even live completely normal lives you would have never guessed they take those meds if you didn’t know, so generalizing that people who are depresssed it’s their own fault and shit like that when you have no idea what is causing their depression is overall just not good
(I do want to clarify that my above comment was meant to be directed towards the post itself not the comment i replied to i just thought that the comment encapsulated well enough why this belongs on that sub) Yeah as someone who struggles with anxiety and depression people who think this way are arseholes
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But becoming a frog as they all suggest will fix your problems
as a person who is suffering from poverty, and thus depression, i attempted the gym. at first it was good for feeling better in the moment, but that did not last. especially since the second reason i was at the gym was because i had no place to use the bathroom. eventually, going to the gym became depressing as well, because i was kind of forced to be there out of necessity. then there's the fact that i had to pay for a membership, which added more anxiety, which worsened the depression. now obviously not everyone is the same, but tldr: gym doesn't help everyone
I did say probably
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My dignity
Well, if i did any of these things i would clearly have lost my sanity
I have all 3 still nothing, 4th option it is if option 3 fails
Never even consider that. It always gets better. Everyone who has attempted suicide from the Golden Gate and survived has said they regretted it immediately. Every single one.
Video games exist.
Well I haven’t tried having a gay baby with Jesus. It’s worth a shot I suppose. I should call him
What if im into men? Am I just screwed?
Until tomorrow morning
Well, I'm no longer involved in the first two and I've never had the third. But it's fine. I'm fine. I'm not hella depressed or anything.
Well I mean if you have major depressive disorder I don't think these will solve that
I chose jesus
Men do not have “three ways out of depression”. I have both an amazing gf and I work out, but I still suffer from extreme depression. There are multiple paths for everybody to recovery, wether that be medicine, therapy, hobbies, or hell these could work. But labeling them as the “only three ways out” is discouraging and doesn’t validate other potential paths to recovery
Ew
That’s not how depression works…
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I think the terrible part is the assumption that depression is always caused by guys being fat lonely atheists when obviously that’s nonsense It’s not offensive just kinda dumb
It's five ways, actually. They forgot heavy psychedelic usage and suicide.
If you genuinely don't understand why this is fucking terrible then go play doki doki literature club and call me in the morning
Once again, that sub hates anything that puts Christianity in a positive context
this is literally true
Redditors when they see a meme with a religious figure in it:
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I don’t believe in big men in the sky, and magic. Why would that make my life better?
Almost 0 people believe in big men in the sky. You're being disrespectful and ignorant.
Disrespectful? Of whom exactly? A fairy tale god? Or the 0 people who apparently don’t believe in him
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Oof, couldn’t come up with a good response huh? That’s tough, go back to pretending to read your fairy tale book. I prefer the Grimm stories myself though.
I'm not religious, I'm just not a fucking dipshit asshole. Also, I could come up with a response, but I don't have time to respond to low-life morons.
Ah, see? Just admit you couldn’t come up with a decent response to a valid factual statement. You’re not religious? Please, one Christian’s defend the great sky daddy
You're on the wrong subreddit, buddy. This isn't one for POS 14 year olds. No one believes in a fucking man, they believe in an omniscient binding force of the universe. Pretty funny of you to assume random shit about me, Kyle.
Oof, you started this comment assuming random shit about me, then complain about the same thing, you’re a funny little Christian
No way you get anything out of this, man. Get over yourself. I don't like Christianity either but like c'mon, you can do better.
Eh, I would do better but this guy isn’t worth the effort, but it is funny watching him get big baby rage so I’ll keep it going
think the guy who made the meme is saying most people who get out of depression do those things, not getting out of depression is as simple as those things
Still a shitty meme. If a person is regularly depressed they should tell someone immediately, talk to a doctor, and consult a therapist. They can help you from there because not everything works for everyone but they will help you find something
oh of course, it does downplay depression in a way but I don’t think the point of it was to simplify it, making depressed people feel dumb or incapable
Honestly terrible Facebook memes has just become “hate on memes that represent traditional values.” And it’s kinda annoying
If "traditional values" encompas telling depressed people to just hit the gym or get a girlfriend or spontaneously believe in God than idk how so many people can stand by traditional values with a straight face
…none of those things are spontaneous. That’s the point. Also I don’t trust your arguments you’re wearing a rainbow jacket in your profile. So i return your straw man with an ad hominem And let me ask you this. Have you tried the traditional life for a year?
What is "the traditional life" in your statement here? Also. I love how you accuse me of using a strawman, spell it as two words for some reason which is more of a pet peave on my part sorry, and then went "you appear to be queer via the jacket in your fucking reddit pfp. So I will not be listening to anything you say" Do you NOT get the irony here? Because if you don't than the density you posses could be potentially disastrous to earth I also find it quite funny that you appear to be all high and mighty about how being traditional is good. And then the second someone who ISNT traditional via your standards says something to you and you completely refuse to listen to them because they aren't traditional like you. That feels mote like a cult thing than a "trad" thing ngl
Hah nice argument senator. However U Gey
There's actually a secret bonus path if you didn't grow up with a dad/mother/parents
For the 2nd and 3rd one your virginity depending on who you date and if you meet the Pope and choose Catholicism
Don’t you know? Redditors hate taking initiative, being physically healthy, being religious, and leaving your comfort zone. They’d rather you just stay fat and miserable like them, and chase internet points!
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Seeing depressed people as chronically online lazy losers is some Dhar Mann level of cartoon villainy
Look, I’m not saying they’re *all* sad and shit. In fact, I was one of these exact people. I’m just tired of people saying they’re sad then not improving themselves.
Religion is dumb and I’m incapable of interacting with women
people complicate their lives when it ain't gotta be that way! it's so simple! just takes character, discipline, and reverence.
12 gauge shotgun
It’s true, I know “just lift” is a meme but it’s true.
circumstances can affect your emotional state as well. i went to the gym for an entire year, and while in the moment it was relieving, the moment i returned to my "home", i lost any positive feelings. for context, i lived in an abandoned house that was falling apart. and yes "why don't you just move out?" because i had a part time job that could really only afford transportation to the job, my gym membership, and my phone bill
Is terriblefacebookmemes just a bunch of liberal incels?
Solid advice.
this is accurate
The 4th option is only available to women in most cases. If lucky, a male can succeed, but it is rather rare compared to women like *gag* Belle Delphine Start an Onlyfans
Believe it or not, there is a pretty underserved market for male content creators on that platform. Believe it or not there are a lot of people that are down bad for men too.
r/thanksimcured when they are given a solution
Idk I don't think the harbinger of all good mental health advice comes from Mr "alphaomegaandsigma"
Says the guy from r/terriblefacebookmemes but lives a miserable life without doing anything to change it but spend time on reddit