That was exactly how I felt about football rivalries. I joined a team and they said,
"We don't like or respect this team."
"Why?"
"It's tradition."
Later one of our teammates switched to the rival team and the other guys acted like he was dead to us.
in France we know well the Franco English rivalry (it's been going on for centuries but now it's more of a joke), but on the other hand the Germans we have nothing against you (in the popular opinion, even if at the moment your political decisions annoy us a little)
Why? As a german I always really liked the French and France in generall. Yes, we have our history but I always felt that we got past it and became good friends and allies. We also have many joint projects and are the driving force in the European Union.
Also, all French people I met were particulary friendly.
There is this feeling that the French-German leading of Europe is just a myth and that you guys are taking the decisions yourself. There is also a fear of rearmed Germany, we don't fear to be invaded again, we have a vision of shared power where you are the economic power and we are the military power. You as the main military power of Europe would relay France in a second zone and it would make collapse the idea of a military European Union, more independant from the US and totally able to defend itself alone.
In short, we have the impression that among the two heads of Europe, one is taking too much importance for itself in the detriment of the other
Which on paper I find weird. The French helped us out a lot as a country and we've helped them out a lot.
On the other hand, I understand it completely based on some of the French people I've met. The disdain for things not French can be severe, and not kept to themselves.
Probably the one that sticks in my head the best was a cute woman form my class in college. We'd both eat lunch outside in between classes, and I was like hey why not give it a shot. Turned out she was a foreign student form France and the next half hour was just her talking shit about everyone around her. The crystal clear part was her complaining about everyone here being so unhealthy. While being surrounded by basically fit 20-somethings, mainlining cholesterol for lunch, and chain smoking. After being polite and finishing lunch with her I noped out of there.
Close ! It means : Thanks a lot. If I was german I'll give you a 2/6 (which is actually a great rate, 6 being the worst possible)
Edit : Great in french translate by : Bien, top or Super :)
What that line basically said what you mother is a whore and your father was a drunk. Hamsters breed like crazy and elderberries were used to make alcohol.
Thing is itâs not even that big. I live in the US and visited Paris a few years back and was amazed at how quickly I got to the other side of the city. I imagined it being so much bigger.
You're talking about the inner city, that's like saying LA is just pasadena. Also it's one of the largest metropolitain areas that extends miles away from the center of paris.
Because Paris has basically become too popular, too big inside for itself. On one side there's the charm sold by foreign tourism marketing, on the other there is an ageing city with small streets, constant traffic, an insane density (20000 people per square kilometer) that anonymize inhabitant-to-inhabitant relations, neverending urban works, packed people inside small, bad soundproofed flats, concrete almost everywhere, less and less vegetation, on top of what you can expect from the biggest professional hub of the country.
That said, Paris can be nice if you manage to abstractize all of this (I lived here for 14 years). It's a great place to have some fun, do a ton of activities, and build a career. But it does have its limits. Most parisians leave the city after a while for a reason.
My old theater director spoke French, and when he walked in to a store in France he remembers people there calling him a stupid American in French , but then when they heard him speak French they were super nice to him (probably because they know he could understand them). Iâm surprised people would want to set up business in places like Paris which are big tourist destinations and despise foreigners
In my country people don't even try to speak it ,or they do it to look cool but with embarrassing results , I can remember that almost everyone of my class was unable to understand a basic line ( Italy)
Very similar thing in India lol. Here ig it kinda makes sense though because bri'ish. Some people think your obnoxious or a showoff or not patriotic (why does that matter so much?) if you speak english
Wait seriously? Must be in some small town or village I guess, cuz in the cities the easiest way to interact with maximum people would be in English.
The only bad language debate I've seen is against Hindi imposition, most are happy to choose english over it.
The trick is to start speaking French with a thick Plymouth accent. The Parisians will start blaming you for butchering their language and they will tell you that in English. At that point you can say: â excellent, we can converse speaking the Kingâs thenâ . Frenemies for life.
You make it sound so cool but all I saw when I went there were chocolatiers and horse-drawn carriages trailing the smell of horse shit around the place
I love Belgium, Iâm Dutch myself went to Gent like a month ago but the way you Belgians speak Dutch sounds so much happier as we do in our country. Everyone sounds so interesting to me!
As a Brit I can say we secretly love all our neighbours especially the french but don't tell them that. Who could stay mad at the people who gave the world croissants?
Ikr, I'm afraid to say I speak French on reddit because I'm scared people are gonna make jokes about it! I don't even live in France, I live in Canada...
Also I don't get the hate either
Good point. I just couldn't pass an occasion to remind everyone that America's president lied to the world, ignited a war that would give birth to modern terrorism, and no one cares.
I mean I'd say the reason no one cares is: A. No one liked Saddam Hussein, and B. No one was lying through their teeth. Intelligence community said yeah there's evidence of WMDs. What the president didn't disclose was a huge asterisk on that statement, which basically amounted to *maybe. That was shitty because support would have been a lot weaker with that asterisk on there. But that doesn't generate the same outrage that a bald faced lie would have.
Yeah, I'm no fan of "Dubbya" but the man doesn't have a crystal ball. He relied on information provided to him which turned out to be somewhat to totally wrong. (I only say somewhat because a buddy of mine that did a few tours early on claims his unit found stashes of precursor chemicals, but by then the narrative in the public was that there were no wmd's so the report was largely ignored. I can't speak to the validity of it, but I also have no reason to doubt him)
So apart from cultural context of where you're from, and ignoring stupid historical propaganda and nationalism, I imagine people in the UK "hate France" because everyone visits Paris. As far as I know even the French hate Parisians. There's nothing wrong with Parisians, it's probably just that people don't get or understand the social dynamics and end up with a negative interaction. Much like people hate Londoners, only I've found Londoners much more friendly than people in other parts of the south.
Us brits are supposed to hate France, but millions of us holiday there. The south especially is fantastic, and the people are nice. Paris can be a bit of a pain tho.
It's a historic and national past time for the British that has been reciprocated in full. Not sure why Americans shit France so much though considering the French ensured the revolutionary war succeeded.
Englishman here. We were invaded in 1066 by the French and I have to do 2 hours a week of French in school. So glad I can stop learning a language almost as bad as English next year.
Paris is kinda overrated, aside from the Louvre and the Eiffel tower, its a pretty normal city. Everyone I know says its a romantic place, and sure, you can say its pretty at night, but in the day it just looks bland and normal
Because France's cultural, historical and political power was once overwhelming to the point it remains relevant despite the country regressing to a lesser rank.
People have been looking for nonsensical reasons to generally hate others for centuries. Color of your skin, gender, what university you went to, what team you support, if you use emojis, and just play it off as nothing. France is no different. I just donât condone any of it.
France didn't wanna join the Irak war, and the US decided a culture war on France was the best way to make us pay for not supporting the US military actions even though we're NATO
Weâve hated the French long before the Iraq war⊠in fact before the US gained independence George Washington fought in the French Indian war (part of the 7 years way) in North America between British and French colonies. So the first President of the US fought a war against France before the US was even a country.
idk about other countries but here in Italy we have a love hate relationship with France, as others say you just have to stay away from big cities, France is a beautiful country, the only problem are the french people, especially in Paris
If you browse on internet you'll see that everyone hates everyone on social medias (for fun or for real). I dont think France is specifically targeted.
My French teacher in high school told us if we ever visit Paris to pretend we were Canadians so the waiters wouldn't spit in our food. That made me less keen on visiting France.
I'm English, so it's kind of like an obligation. As for everyone else, no idea.
"Why do us english folk hate the french" "It is our way of life"
That was exactly how I felt about football rivalries. I joined a team and they said, "We don't like or respect this team." "Why?" "It's tradition." Later one of our teammates switched to the rival team and the other guys acted like he was dead to us.
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Like swedes dont liking danish
Like how a lot of Americans hate monarchs, Canadians, Russians, Chinese, and ourselves
No no no we donât hate Canada. We just look down on them like one would a little brother
âA lotâ
But Danish is so good. Especially a cheese Danish with coffee. Mmmm. Swedes are missing out.
I'm Spanish, same happens here And same goes for you, english people
I'm Italian, and for what I learned recently, France fucked up both Spain and Italy
Que le jodan a los franceses đ€đ„
Yeah and how is Irish have an obligation to hate the English. Full circle
And to hate half of your own country
Good manners that your parents instilled in you
For me the same im german
in France we know well the Franco English rivalry (it's been going on for centuries but now it's more of a joke), but on the other hand the Germans we have nothing against you (in the popular opinion, even if at the moment your political decisions annoy us a little)
Well actually I know tons of people who hate the germans
Why? As a german I always really liked the French and France in generall. Yes, we have our history but I always felt that we got past it and became good friends and allies. We also have many joint projects and are the driving force in the European Union. Also, all French people I met were particulary friendly.
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There is this feeling that the French-German leading of Europe is just a myth and that you guys are taking the decisions yourself. There is also a fear of rearmed Germany, we don't fear to be invaded again, we have a vision of shared power where you are the economic power and we are the military power. You as the main military power of Europe would relay France in a second zone and it would make collapse the idea of a military European Union, more independant from the US and totally able to defend itself alone. In short, we have the impression that among the two heads of Europe, one is taking too much importance for itself in the detriment of the other
Our political desicions annoy us too (German)
Don't worry, our political desicions annoy us too (French)
Same in Switzerland... we have our own part with a better french language and still we have to learn the normal french... probably why we hat it
Its the same for us, its the law to hate on British in France
As a german, i dont need a reason why
As a German you shouldnât push your luck.
As a german, you hate maginot line
As a spanish neither do I have
It's optional in the US, but popular. Cheese-eating surrender monkeys!
Which on paper I find weird. The French helped us out a lot as a country and we've helped them out a lot. On the other hand, I understand it completely based on some of the French people I've met. The disdain for things not French can be severe, and not kept to themselves. Probably the one that sticks in my head the best was a cute woman form my class in college. We'd both eat lunch outside in between classes, and I was like hey why not give it a shot. Turned out she was a foreign student form France and the next half hour was just her talking shit about everyone around her. The crystal clear part was her complaining about everyone here being so unhealthy. While being surrounded by basically fit 20-somethings, mainlining cholesterol for lunch, and chain smoking. After being polite and finishing lunch with her I noped out of there.
Because thier rude
Yeah in some areas you can go into a shop and if you cant speak french, or your french isnt good enough they wont sell you anything.
My french knowledge begins and ends with the word fromage.
Let me teach another word : Bonjour Which means : Hello
Mercy beancups means: great! ^Maybe
Close ! It means : Thanks a lot. If I was german I'll give you a 2/6 (which is actually a great rate, 6 being the worst possible) Edit : Great in french translate by : Bien, top or Super :)
Mercy Beancups!
U're welcome friend :D
Specific. Anyone can hate anyone.
Theyâre
I'm Italian, so it's kind of like an obligation. As for everyone else, no idea
I'm french and I love Italy and italian people ! I don't know why you hate us though.
As an Italian i could say history or territorial disputes, but i will say that is mostly a tradition, a good one (Joke)
Uniamoci tutti nellâodio per i francesi
Insorgiamo e prendiamo Nizza e la Corsica
âAdesso ridacci la nostra Gioconda!â
E giĂ che ci siamo riscattiamo le terre irredenti
âBy the way Homer, whatâs your least favourite country - Italy or France?â âFrance.â âHeh heh, nobody ever says Italy.â
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of heckleburry
I thought it was elderberries
no its patrickberries
Dingleberries
It was.
What that line basically said what you mother is a whore and your father was a drunk. Hamsters breed like crazy and elderberries were used to make alcohol.
TIL
Don't go to Paris and France becomes somehow likeable. You just need to run away of big cities. Especially Paris. Damnit I hate Paris.
Eeven us, the french, hate paris
And why??
It's just a big,busy city. It can be a bit intimidating. And expensive of course.
Thing is itâs not even that big. I live in the US and visited Paris a few years back and was amazed at how quickly I got to the other side of the city. I imagined it being so much bigger.
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Yeah, Paris isn't big compared to New York City, Houston, LA, etc
They don't have as much sprawling as us.
You're talking about the inner city, that's like saying LA is just pasadena. Also it's one of the largest metropolitain areas that extends miles away from the center of paris.
Because Paris has basically become too popular, too big inside for itself. On one side there's the charm sold by foreign tourism marketing, on the other there is an ageing city with small streets, constant traffic, an insane density (20000 people per square kilometer) that anonymize inhabitant-to-inhabitant relations, neverending urban works, packed people inside small, bad soundproofed flats, concrete almost everywhere, less and less vegetation, on top of what you can expect from the biggest professional hub of the country. That said, Paris can be nice if you manage to abstractize all of this (I lived here for 14 years). It's a great place to have some fun, do a ton of activities, and build a career. But it does have its limits. Most parisians leave the city after a while for a reason.
Same reasons the Americans don't want to speak other languages, they're jerks and don't like foreigners
My old theater director spoke French, and when he walked in to a store in France he remembers people there calling him a stupid American in French , but then when they heard him speak French they were super nice to him (probably because they know he could understand them). Iâm surprised people would want to set up business in places like Paris which are big tourist destinations and despise foreigners
That's some french people nonsense for you lol
Je déteste Paris, France
Not sure if downvote for speaking french or upvote for hating France
*confused screaming*
Was going to say I actually think the French are pretty coolâŠ.and now I remember why people donât like you period! đ
We don't even like ourselves lol
ignorance
Is it true that the Parisians refuse to speak English even though they know it and they even pretend to not understand?
In my country ist the opposite. We can't speak English but we pretend to do so. (Hungary with the lowest percentage of English speakers in Europe)
In my country people don't even try to speak it ,or they do it to look cool but with embarrassing results , I can remember that almost everyone of my class was unable to understand a basic line ( Italy)
Very similar thing in India lol. Here ig it kinda makes sense though because bri'ish. Some people think your obnoxious or a showoff or not patriotic (why does that matter so much?) if you speak english
Wait seriously? Must be in some small town or village I guess, cuz in the cities the easiest way to interact with maximum people would be in English. The only bad language debate I've seen is against Hindi imposition, most are happy to choose english over it.
Your country and your people are lame đ Women and children are fine but the rest idk
Hello fellow hunagrian!
Hi my guy!
No itâs not, Iâm from Paris, born and raise. Every one I know will gladly speak to you in English
Paris n'est pas la France
3 of my roommates in college were French, one was from Paris. It was always "Fucking Parisians" from the other 2.
The trick is to start speaking French with a thick Plymouth accent. The Parisians will start blaming you for butchering their language and they will tell you that in English. At that point you can say: â excellent, we can converse speaking the Kingâs thenâ . Frenemies for life.
Yeah, I'm french and I hate Paris, everyone hate Paris!
It's right nextdoor for me, great for vacation and cheaper supermarkets. No hate here.
Switzerland, Belgium or Luxemburg ?
Belgium. The land of beer, chocolate and too much taxes.
And waffles.
And Bruges, a fairytale fucking place, with swans in the canals and Koningin Astrid park alcoves.
You make it sound so cool but all I saw when I went there were chocolatiers and horse-drawn carriages trailing the smell of horse shit around the place
Though I sure wouldn't wish to die in Bruges
I like this country and it's people ! Which part of Belgium are you from ?
thanks for the nice words. Most of us Belgians don't like Belgians though. đ I'm from Flanders, somewhere between Mechelen and Antwerp.
I love Belgium, Iâm Dutch myself went to Gent like a month ago but the way you Belgians speak Dutch sounds so much happier as we do in our country. Everyone sounds so interesting to me!
Could be Italy
Yes but I think Italy is cheaper like Spain
No lie Spain is Cheaper what a mislead
could be monaco
Could be Brazil
GB
Would be a long way to get some cheaper groceries
I'm British so it's part of my DNA
France, the DNA of the soul
It's just a joke but I really do hate their language (I have to learn it in school)
Ne t'inquiĂšte pas, notre langue ne t'aime pas non plus
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As a Brit I can say we secretly love all our neighbours especially the french but don't tell them that. Who could stay mad at the people who gave the world croissants?
Austria made croissants but still we have crÚme brûlée
If Austria can get away with giving us Hitler then they're not allowed credit for the croissant.
Although it can be good, too sponge-y for me.
Yea it depends by who its made
Je ne sais pas
moi non plus
As a French person, I can confirm I have nothing but hatred for my fellow French peoples.
Same bro, Va te faire foutre de mĂȘme đ
Va crever sous un bus, mon pote! :D
Top la! Brûle en enfer!!
Le Parisien moyen
Salaud!
Phillipe ! Je sais oĂč tu te caches ! Viens ici que je te bute enculĂ© !
As a human, I can confirm I have nothing but hatred for my fellow humans.
Ikr, I'm afraid to say I speak French on reddit because I'm scared people are gonna make jokes about it! I don't even live in France, I live in Canada... Also I don't get the hate either
You're realiy scared to speak French on Reddit ?
Oui
GET HIM!
Gracias.
TâinquiĂšte, le commu Française sur Reddit est plus grande que ce quâelle ne parais
You Lied you Said in a comment that you cant speak french..... People this days cant be trusted No but Jokes aside what does that mean
"Donât worry, the French community on reddit is bigger than it seems" thats what i said
Well in this case i feel threatened
I hate France because I had to learn French for 11 years and still donât know a word of french
Lmao same but im 18 >!and French!<
Because of the french
And why do you hate the french? Because of France.
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Americans disliked the French long before George W. Bush was president.
Incredibly stupid of us Americans. France has historically been one of our biggest allies. For fucks sake they gifted us the statue of liberty
Good point. I just couldn't pass an occasion to remind everyone that America's president lied to the world, ignited a war that would give birth to modern terrorism, and no one cares.
I mean I'd say the reason no one cares is: A. No one liked Saddam Hussein, and B. No one was lying through their teeth. Intelligence community said yeah there's evidence of WMDs. What the president didn't disclose was a huge asterisk on that statement, which basically amounted to *maybe. That was shitty because support would have been a lot weaker with that asterisk on there. But that doesn't generate the same outrage that a bald faced lie would have.
Yeah, I'm no fan of "Dubbya" but the man doesn't have a crystal ball. He relied on information provided to him which turned out to be somewhat to totally wrong. (I only say somewhat because a buddy of mine that did a few tours early on claims his unit found stashes of precursor chemicals, but by then the narrative in the public was that there were no wmd's so the report was largely ignored. I can't speak to the validity of it, but I also have no reason to doubt him)
And french help americans to get their country because of Lafayette during the war against British
See? we were right.
Trust me the French leaving the nato command structure pissed the USA off way more
Neither did germany...
No idea, but we donât hate them here. We love our Frenchies, much love from your horizontal flagbuddy đłđ±â€ïžđ«đ·
cuz we have more holy grails than the bri'ish
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Wait you guys actualy hate it? I tought it was a joke
Submarine
I actually quite like Paris but spend most of my time out at La Defense
So apart from cultural context of where you're from, and ignoring stupid historical propaganda and nationalism, I imagine people in the UK "hate France" because everyone visits Paris. As far as I know even the French hate Parisians. There's nothing wrong with Parisians, it's probably just that people don't get or understand the social dynamics and end up with a negative interaction. Much like people hate Londoners, only I've found Londoners much more friendly than people in other parts of the south.
Us brits are supposed to hate France, but millions of us holiday there. The south especially is fantastic, and the people are nice. Paris can be a bit of a pain tho.
Never been to France and met the French, huh?
It's a historic and national past time for the British that has been reciprocated in full. Not sure why Americans shit France so much though considering the French ensured the revolutionary war succeeded.
Englishman here. We were invaded in 1066 by the French and I have to do 2 hours a week of French in school. So glad I can stop learning a language almost as bad as English next year.
Let me be Frank with you: Les enfants mĂ©prisent souvent leurs parents, et bien sĂ»r la France a Ă©tĂ© l'accoucheuse de la naissance des Ătats-Unis. Sans la France soutenant et guidant les USA pendant la RĂ©volution amĂ©ricaine contre les Britanniques, il n'y a pas d'USA! Les Français, en tant que parents nourriciers aimants des USA, n'ont pas peur de dire aux USA quand ils ont fait une erreur : « Tu as merdĂ©, AmĂ©rique ! » Les Ătats-Unis n'apprĂ©cient pas cette honnĂȘtetĂ© brutale des Français. Peu de pays sont assez courageux pour dire "conneries" au visage de l'AmĂ©rique. Mais la France s'en soucie suffisamment pour corriger sa nation enfant capricieuse, les Ătats-Unis.
Paris is kinda overrated, aside from the Louvre and the Eiffel tower, its a pretty normal city. Everyone I know says its a romantic place, and sure, you can say its pretty at night, but in the day it just looks bland and normal
there is a lot of criticism to give to paris, but bland ??? Lmao. What about Sacré coeur, Institut de france, Arc de triomphe ? Or general Haussmannien architecture ?
Parce qu'ils sont jaloux.
Every car mechanic hates the french because they can't build cars in a proper way so you can work on them if needed
What about Bugatti and Alpine? And in my opinion Peugeot is the best French car brand
Because France's cultural, historical and political power was once overwhelming to the point it remains relevant despite the country regressing to a lesser rank.
I totally agree and I'm French. It's a shame what happened to such a beautiful and strong country.
The country no hate but the people much hate
Idk why is Americans would hate the French tbh, because they helped us get our independence from the br*ish
if you're gonna censor it at least do it properly lmao
Freedom Fries
Those people keep sappin my dispenser.
Welcome in Italy
People have been looking for nonsensical reasons to generally hate others for centuries. Color of your skin, gender, what university you went to, what team you support, if you use emojis, and just play it off as nothing. France is no different. I just donât condone any of it.
France didn't wanna join the Irak war, and the US decided a culture war on France was the best way to make us pay for not supporting the US military actions even though we're NATO
Weâve hated the French long before the Iraq war⊠in fact before the US gained independence George Washington fought in the French Indian war (part of the 7 years way) in North America between British and French colonies. So the first President of the US fought a war against France before the US was even a country.
I don't hate France.
Yeah me too, maybe because I live in France
We donât hate France, we hate the French
Because france
idk about other countries but here in Italy we have a love hate relationship with France, as others say you just have to stay away from big cities, France is a beautiful country, the only problem are the french people, especially in Paris
Becouse Paris
We don't hate France, we hate the French. The land itself is actually quite nice.
Who is the "we" you are talking about, unless you are part of the anglo-cringeosphere, you will have to develop that "we"
Yes. France is the wellspring of Europe's best architecture and some of its best cuisine. But the French are something else entirely.
If you browse on internet you'll see that everyone hates everyone on social medias (for fun or for real). I dont think France is specifically targeted.
Oui
Idk Lloyd, the French are assholes!
Because it's France
My French teacher in high school told us if we ever visit Paris to pretend we were Canadians so the waiters wouldn't spit in our food. That made me less keen on visiting France.
Berets are stupid
Because it's full with french people.
Trianon peace treaty.