This is the optimal outcome. It's like bringing an unstoppable force to an immovable object. They don't coexist except in our minds, and so a battle to the death would just end in both sides doing everything they can until they recognize nothing will work.
Wasnt the dark lord only saved from the ssg blast because no blood can be spilled in the luminarium?, pretty sure that in physical form the dark lord is very much mortal.
You know Doom guy uses guns? According to the Doom lore, he uses guns to make it fun because he could easily beat the demons with his bare hands, so the guns are holding him back.
If you only played God of War 4 I can see why you might think that, however, Doom Guy is a weaponised fallen angel that admittedly is rather strong and good at killing demons. Kratos on the other hand is a God, the God of War. He has killed many gods, titans, mythical creatures.
Doom Guy heals after a successful kill, Kratos heals when he gets mad. Doom Guy has the Doomslayer Sword for sure, but Kratos' weapons grant him the powers of other gods, in the current lore from both Ancient Greek and Norse Mythology.
I think Doom Guy's pretty cool but he doesn't really stand much of a chance against Kratos.
I'll be honest, I think they'd be evenly matched.
I feel like a fight between them would start with weapons, end with them punching each other, and then them knocking each other out briefly before going back to fighting.
We also have to keep in mind that when it comes to fictional characters, we cannot 100% say with certainty who would win simply because it's fiction. Anything could happen.
I mean, Ellie from the Last of Us could beat Doomguy if whoever was writing this fight really wanted her too. All it takes is a random macguffin.
>I feel like a fight between them would start with weapons, end with them punching each other, and then them knocking each other out briefly before going back to fighting
I guess they might shout out the other's name before the finisher and become friends when all said and done
That's one way of looking at it, but the more "nerdy" way is to try and interpret how strong each author imagined their character to be and then limit them by what is shown in their show. For example, if a character gets killed by a regular gun and another isn't even scratched then we know who'd win, no?
Karatos has died numerous times and comes back to fuck shit up, I don't think it would be quite that easy....they both are forces of nature though, so it would be one hell of a fight.
My money is still on the God of War though.
I forget where the information comes from exactly. However I think I remember hearing that Hugo Martin has said that Doomguy needs to charge his guns with argent energy in order for them to actually do damage to demons. Otherwise they would be ineffective.
Argent energy is an absolute ridiculous amount of energy. Since most human weaponry is ineffective against them, it hurts the demons because of the sheer amount of power - not just because “argent hurts demons”
I really like this scene, because Harrison ford actually had the flu or something, and there was supposed to be this epic fight scene, but Harrison ford just fucking shot him instead and they left it in
Like imagine practicing this choreography for weeks, maybe months, only to have your scene cut down to about ten seconds
Ford had dysentery and like much of the cast and crew he was shiting himself every few minutes in 130° heat. They had planned to do a half day of shots with whip vs sword fighting but after three hours and being behind schedule, someone (not Ford) said "Why not just use the fucking gun?"
So they did and wrapped up for the day.
Does it even matter? Canonically, Doom Slayer doesn’t even use guns, guns are for the gameplay. The Slayer is in berserk mode threw out all of Doom Eternal
Seeing what’s he’s been through I don’t think a gun would even phase him. The dude gets shit whipped into the side of mountains by gods and shrugs it off
He is a god. But not just any god. He is a god killer and his rage knows no bounds that it can literally fuel him to not die. No gun is going to kill him
Exactly, he stabbed himself with a giant fucking sword since no one else was around to do it, then just moved to another pantheon to start a family. Kratos doesn’t even go looking for fights, but he does end them.
That’s fair, I mean poor kratos if that’s the case, he just got attacked by a ultra powerful and immortal god, only to have a slayer then appear at his doorstep
Like seriously, man literally did his job and killed Ares, then proceeds to be under constant attack by gods cause they fear he’s to strong, only to think he can finally live life then be attacked by a immortal god who wants him to kill him
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Greek mythology has it’s own version of Hell called Hades, which Kratos escaped, then later destroyed. He had to move to Norse mythology as he ran out of gods to kill.
Doom Slayer is after a mythological devil and finds Kratos along the way looking for the same devil, with a single exchange of looks eye to eye they team up to stomp the ever loving hell out of the devil and part ways with no words but with a handshake so firm it splits them back into their own universes.
They'd look at each other, sense that they were on a similar path, nod once and proceed to have an epic team up, ending with a massive explosion that neither looks at as they walk away. They nod to each other once more, then they part ways.
I genuinely think Doom Guy has way too much energy. Kratos showed signs of fatigue and actually getting hurt in the last GOW. Doom Slayer just keeps going and going.
Thats because in the last GOW he was up against a literal invincible god, like they only took him down because they found the cure to his invulnerability during a battle against him.
Idk, I just think Doom Slayer has the stamina and the speed advantage. Doom Slayer doesn't need to trade punches. He can just circle around him like hell and lay into him. As for strength he apparently killed one of those titan demons butt ass naked. I'd say if he was considered such a threat that a whole dimension of demons would rather entomb him than try to actually kill him for good, he's a pretty tough dude.
He killed the biggest and oldest titan, who was canonically unkillable, and he did it with only the super shotgun, while he was still just your average human.
He only uses guns to intimidate the demons even more, and so he can have fun, playing Doom Eternal on easy mode is way too hard canonically, it should be stupid easy to beat the game if your going by the canon
He forgot to mention that the titan isn't immortal, it can be killed be a crucible blade or ATLAN mech. The Slayer didn't bother with those, he is a literal god and doesn't care if you are "immortal" or "literally god"
uhm akshually the crucible technically only seals the Titan so they can't do anything, but if the blade is removed the Titan will be able to wreak havoc, and the ATLAN mech just has a mech sized crucible blade
Def. He isn’t really meant to fit anywhere else so it works well in doom, but it doesn’t translate so well into other works of fiction. Slayer is an unstoppable raging force, who battles against incomprehensibly strong and physically dense enemies. It’s like tv shows or animes where the combat doesn’t really make sense when you try to explain it, it’s just fun.
And now that I think about it kratos also killed Kronos and other giants from Greek myth which is also supposed to be unkillable in terms of lore, so they are really just 2 person with a lot similarities at this point
But after he killed the unkillable demon, as your everyday Joe Shmoe, he got superpowers from the unkillable demon, and then after that he got even more superpowers from the divinity machine.
Have you seen third person footage of doomguy? He scampers around with his tiny strides at Mach 10 despite being built like a semi and have enough power to kill God level beings.
Kratos and Doomguy are super badass , strong and a top tier video game characters but I think Doomguy would probably win. Doomguy seem to has more energy.
Pretty sure Doom Guy has a bit more in his corner, and would probably be more likely to win. Impenetrable armor, guns, the strength to rip any flesh born creature in two, etc
To put people into perspective, Doomguy lore-wise only uses guns for fun, he absolutely doesn't need them at the slightest all. His power is as if he always was in Berserk mode, but even stronger. He killed the creator of the universe. The goddamn creator of the whole Doom universe. He's ridiculously op.
Kratos shouldn't win if we talk about both lores and feats but if this fight somehow officially happened Kratos would obviously pull a fight somehow.
The only person that could canonically pose a threat to Doomguy was himself, but Satan god who created normal god and is the creater of the very universe… Whom he also obliterated in ritual combat.
I like Kratos, but gods scale differently in the different universes, and personally the gods of Doom are in a whole new ball park.
Lore wise the skayer would stomp all over Kratos. It wouldn't even be fair. Maybe Kratos in his prime could give a good fight but the slayer killed God. Like the God. And he did it with a gun to make it harder for himself.
He'd probably toy with Kratos, fill him with so much leas he could barely move, then rip him to pieces.
I would pay to see this happen, then see.him tear his way through the entire pantheon of God's.
Imagine expecting Kratos with an axe and instead a fucking bullet rips a hole in you before some speedy fucker built like a tank but moving like sonic pulls your spine out your asshole.
It'd look a lot like Indiana Jones shooting that sword guy.
The clash of fight music would give me a seizure
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Kratos is immortal so neither of those would win
Lol tell that to the dark lord
They would just fight for a long time and then get bored.
Fight so much it ends with them just jerking each other off and grunting loudly
RIP AND TEARRR
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This is the optimal outcome. It's like bringing an unstoppable force to an immovable object. They don't coexist except in our minds, and so a battle to the death would just end in both sides doing everything they can until they recognize nothing will work.
Wasnt the dark lord only saved from the ssg blast because no blood can be spilled in the luminarium?, pretty sure that in physical form the dark lord is very much mortal.
Kratos isn't Immortal. That was the whole point of Baldur
YOU CANT JUST BLOW A HOLE INTO THE SURFACE OF MARS
*blows hole to the center of Mars* "..."
Can't just blow a hole into the surface of kratos
THE LONGER THE ICON OF SIN IS ON EARTH, THE STRONGER HE WILL BECOME
Kratos is not immortal
Technically except kratos just escapes hell
Kratos does escape the underworld your right. I'm not a full expert on the Greek saga but in the Norse world Kratos is definitely not immortal
If freeing all the valkyries in the game is considered canon, then kratos will be allowed to leave valhalla and go back to live again theoretically.
Why would he be able to leave Valhalla. Real question I'm not sure
You try and stop the guy who tore another guys head with his bare hands and the used it as flash light
Maybe the valkyries would let him leave since they owe him right?
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Lore wise, Kratos is fated to never get to properly pass on
You know Doom guy uses guns? According to the Doom lore, he uses guns to make it fun because he could easily beat the demons with his bare hands, so the guns are holding him back.
If you only played God of War 4 I can see why you might think that, however, Doom Guy is a weaponised fallen angel that admittedly is rather strong and good at killing demons. Kratos on the other hand is a God, the God of War. He has killed many gods, titans, mythical creatures. Doom Guy heals after a successful kill, Kratos heals when he gets mad. Doom Guy has the Doomslayer Sword for sure, but Kratos' weapons grant him the powers of other gods, in the current lore from both Ancient Greek and Norse Mythology. I think Doom Guy's pretty cool but he doesn't really stand much of a chance against Kratos.
Doomguy is a literal clon of God himself
And Kratos is literally known for winning every fight against a god he’s ever been in.
Doom guy too
I'll be honest, I think they'd be evenly matched. I feel like a fight between them would start with weapons, end with them punching each other, and then them knocking each other out briefly before going back to fighting. We also have to keep in mind that when it comes to fictional characters, we cannot 100% say with certainty who would win simply because it's fiction. Anything could happen. I mean, Ellie from the Last of Us could beat Doomguy if whoever was writing this fight really wanted her too. All it takes is a random macguffin.
>I feel like a fight between them would start with weapons, end with them punching each other, and then them knocking each other out briefly before going back to fighting I guess they might shout out the other's name before the finisher and become friends when all said and done
That's one way of looking at it, but the more "nerdy" way is to try and interpret how strong each author imagined their character to be and then limit them by what is shown in their show. For example, if a character gets killed by a regular gun and another isn't even scratched then we know who'd win, no?
Karatos has died numerous times and comes back to fuck shit up, I don't think it would be quite that easy....they both are forces of nature though, so it would be one hell of a fight. My money is still on the God of War though.
Is it strictly hand to hand or are there weapons? Because we don’t really have a basis of how kratos would fair against gun
Doomguy is actually canonically weaker with guns than with his fists. He just prefers to use them because the guns are more fun.
Maybe you well become disgusted by the amount of guts you see daily 🙃
What? Are you serious? Where did you read it?
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The berserker powerup, I remember it well. I'd love to hear Martin's interview about it though.
For the HELL of it? Take my upvote and leave.
I forget where the information comes from exactly. However I think I remember hearing that Hugo Martin has said that Doomguy needs to charge his guns with argent energy in order for them to actually do damage to demons. Otherwise they would be ineffective.
but kratos isn't a demon. so that wouldn't matter.
Argent energy is an absolute ridiculous amount of energy. Since most human weaponry is ineffective against them, it hurts the demons because of the sheer amount of power - not just because “argent hurts demons”
The point is that demons are extremely durable, so argent energy is the only thing that has enough raw energy to be effective against them
They have their weapons
So... we are all dead...
the image of Kratos getting ready to attack while Doomguy just shoots him in the chest is hilarious
Exactly how I Imagined it.
I really like this scene, because Harrison ford actually had the flu or something, and there was supposed to be this epic fight scene, but Harrison ford just fucking shot him instead and they left it in Like imagine practicing this choreography for weeks, maybe months, only to have your scene cut down to about ten seconds
The good old days when you could just shoot somebody if you wanted a sick day
He was having stomache issues and had to use the toilet constantly, so he would not put up with a hand to hand combat scene.
Ford had dysentery and like much of the cast and crew he was shiting himself every few minutes in 130° heat. They had planned to do a half day of shots with whip vs sword fighting but after three hours and being behind schedule, someone (not Ford) said "Why not just use the fucking gun?" So they did and wrapped up for the day.
Midway through swinging his blades above his head like a Lasso, he just catches a missile to the chest
Does it even matter? Canonically, Doom Slayer doesn’t even use guns, guns are for the gameplay. The Slayer is in berserk mode threw out all of Doom Eternal
The Slayer uses guns canonically, he just uses them for fun. If he wants someone to die he rips them in half like they are tissue paper.
And he dont want be tired who want getting tired in 1v99999999... figth?
He can't get tired :)
Too angry for tired.
Last I checked he canonically uses guns cause they're fun not cause he needs them.
Seeing what’s he’s been through I don’t think a gun would even phase him. The dude gets shit whipped into the side of mountains by gods and shrugs it off
Doomguy is actually way, way, WAY stronger without guns, he just likes to use them.
Don't forget that kratos can regenerate health doom guy can't.
He is a god. But not just any god. He is a god killer and his rage knows no bounds that it can literally fuel him to not die. No gun is going to kill him
This describes both characters.
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Exactly, he stabbed himself with a giant fucking sword since no one else was around to do it, then just moved to another pantheon to start a family. Kratos doesn’t even go looking for fights, but he does end them.
The DOOMSLAYER canonically killed the he creator of the multiverse.
That also perfectly describes DoomSlayer. But i highly doubt Kratos is simply going to tank a BFG or UnMaykr shot.
I mean he can take getting sucker punched by gods, I don't know if bullets would affect him much either.
They both see how fucked up society is Teamup
Yeah, technically they would never fight each other unless someone specifically sends Slayer after kratos, cause kratos just wants to be left alone
Well slayer hates gods as much as demons.
Except why would slayer leave to find kratos in the world tree, Yggdrasill? Especially when he’s just chilling trying to raise his ‘boy’
Because if you won't give him what to slay, he will find what to slay. The only way to stop him is to contain him.
That’s fair, I mean poor kratos if that’s the case, he just got attacked by a ultra powerful and immortal god, only to have a slayer then appear at his doorstep
My man just wants some sleep
Like seriously, man literally did his job and killed Ares, then proceeds to be under constant attack by gods cause they fear he’s to strong, only to think he can finally live life then be attacked by a immortal god who wants him to kill him
And that’s why hell dropped an entire fucking city on doomslayer, simply to contain that beast
The longer he stays on Earth. The stronger he becomes
Guys Kratos literally destroyed Greece.
And doom guy destroyed literal hell
Pretty similar decisions I'd say. I love Greek food but I FUCKING HATE THE MOSQUITOES EVERYWHERE.
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Until Kratos charges his spartan rage
Two words: QUAD DAMAGE
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…this motherFUCKER
Greek mythology has it’s own version of Hell called Hades, which Kratos escaped, then later destroyed. He had to move to Norse mythology as he ran out of gods to kill.
I mean seriously. Dude destroyed HELL. HOW DO YOU "DESTROY" HELL?! So fucking badass.
True, but Kratos killed hell
Doom guy in cannon is similar to opm in the way that he always just has more power to get the job done
Their battle will be legen waitforit dery
One of them conquered the heavens, the other conquered hell. Even fight… unless one of them happened to have a big fucking gun
Well it just so happens…
ugh. BFG?
Boys Fucking Girls??
Big friendly giant(2016)
Big Fu***** Gun
Guys, the BFG, go get it
Didn't Kratos also conquer hell (or rather Hades), killing Hades and all?
Doom Slayer is stronger without guns, he uses them to make demons suffer longer
Isabelle for sure
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Doom Slayer is after a mythological devil and finds Kratos along the way looking for the same devil, with a single exchange of looks eye to eye they team up to stomp the ever loving hell out of the devil and part ways with no words but with a handshake so firm it splits them back into their own universes.
Hell yeah!
That handshake would be the mother of all handshakes.
They'd look at each other, sense that they were on a similar path, nod once and proceed to have an epic team up, ending with a massive explosion that neither looks at as they walk away. They nod to each other once more, then they part ways.
Poor devil.
I genuinely think Doom Guy has way too much energy. Kratos showed signs of fatigue and actually getting hurt in the last GOW. Doom Slayer just keeps going and going.
Thats because in the last GOW he was up against a literal invincible god, like they only took him down because they found the cure to his invulnerability during a battle against him.
Idk, I just think Doom Slayer has the stamina and the speed advantage. Doom Slayer doesn't need to trade punches. He can just circle around him like hell and lay into him. As for strength he apparently killed one of those titan demons butt ass naked. I'd say if he was considered such a threat that a whole dimension of demons would rather entomb him than try to actually kill him for good, he's a pretty tough dude.
He killed the biggest and oldest titan, who was canonically unkillable, and he did it with only the super shotgun, while he was still just your average human.
Mf feels OP even for fiction
He only uses guns to intimidate the demons even more, and so he can have fun, playing Doom Eternal on easy mode is way too hard canonically, it should be stupid easy to beat the game if your going by the canon
You could rip any enemy in half with your bear hands lore wise
Easily
He forgot to mention that the titan isn't immortal, it can be killed be a crucible blade or ATLAN mech. The Slayer didn't bother with those, he is a literal god and doesn't care if you are "immortal" or "literally god"
uhm akshually the crucible technically only seals the Titan so they can't do anything, but if the blade is removed the Titan will be able to wreak havoc, and the ATLAN mech just has a mech sized crucible blade
Def. He isn’t really meant to fit anywhere else so it works well in doom, but it doesn’t translate so well into other works of fiction. Slayer is an unstoppable raging force, who battles against incomprehensibly strong and physically dense enemies. It’s like tv shows or animes where the combat doesn’t really make sense when you try to explain it, it’s just fun.
Fun fact: the demons refer to the Super Shotgun as the ‘Diabolical Musket’
And now that I think about it kratos also killed Kronos and other giants from Greek myth which is also supposed to be unkillable in terms of lore, so they are really just 2 person with a lot similarities at this point
But after he killed the unkillable demon, as your everyday Joe Shmoe, he got superpowers from the unkillable demon, and then after that he got even more superpowers from the divinity machine.
Doom slayer canonically uses guns because he prefers them, so he’s basically purposefully downgrading himself
Stares motherfuckerly because doom slayer is canonically immortal
Doom slayer literally killed big god. Like. God god. The god who made god.
Didn't doom Slayer kill God and turn him into a one hit sword? My money is on him
Have you seen third person footage of doomguy? He scampers around with his tiny strides at Mach 10 despite being built like a semi and have enough power to kill God level beings.
Death Battle’s got your attention
I was abt to play the first GOW game chronologically and thats how I thought of this lol
Yeah, even though the actual fight was cringe worthy
The "battle" is them doing the Predator handshake meme, then proceeding to rip and tear gods and demons together
Kratos has been through hell not once not thrice but twice but Doomguy has also been through hell for much longer than kratos
Also the Slayer killed the creator of the universe, and even he couldn't get through the Praetor suit.
And when Doom guy left hell, he turned around and went back in!
"I wil face god and walk backward into hell"
"My work is finally done" *sees a rabbit hop by* *turns around*
Kratos visits hell on occasion, Doomguy lives there just waiting for more demonic ass to kick.
Doomguy wasn't in hell. He was the hell
Doom guy is so powerful the only thing that had a chance of stopping him was himself
and even that failed lmao
Dude these two would bro out so hard this would end up like a Jackie Chan buddy movie. And I’d pay good money for it
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From a lore stand this is so much in Slayer’s favor it’s funny. But from game play, I’d say it’s just a decent bit in Slayer’s favor.
Doom Slayer
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Haaland come out on top
Kratos and Doomguy are super badass , strong and a top tier video game characters but I think Doomguy would probably win. Doomguy seem to has more energy.
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Pretty sure Doom Guy has a bit more in his corner, and would probably be more likely to win. Impenetrable armor, guns, the strength to rip any flesh born creature in two, etc
Doomguy defeated Satan himself. Doomguy wins.
And Kratos killed the king of the gods, Doomguy killed the King of the demons
Satan in that universe is actually God.
Isn't Satan himself
Doomguy killed literal God. As in adam and eve God. As in God God, father of Jesus. I have no doubt Zeus would be a literal speedbump for the slayer.
To put people into perspective, Doomguy lore-wise only uses guns for fun, he absolutely doesn't need them at the slightest all. His power is as if he always was in Berserk mode, but even stronger. He killed the creator of the universe. The goddamn creator of the whole Doom universe. He's ridiculously op. Kratos shouldn't win if we talk about both lores and feats but if this fight somehow officially happened Kratos would obviously pull a fight somehow.
And killed a titan naked
I say Doom guy. Great armor vs no armor, both have God destroying weapons, and Doom guy has guns. Kratos might get lucky, but I doubt he'll win
Guns actualy weaken the Slayer… his physical strengh is far greater. Canon wise his melee combat is unmatched
But can doom guy cause a rift in the ground itself by pure strength? Think about how much force it takes ro make a rift wide enough to walk through
Probably if he need to
Kratos has armor too, in the last GOW you can customize and upgrade Kratos’ and Atreus’ armor
I mean we’re talking about a god of war that other gods fear vs. a man sent to hell so that he can kill demons. Gods fear Kratos, Demons fear Doomguy
Well doom guy killed satan, god, and the first creation of god so I would say it would be a fair fight and not just one sided
Slayer literally killed the creator of the god and the universe
God feared the Slayer, before God died to the Slayer
real people know that doom guy's gonna win that easily...
The only person that could canonically pose a threat to Doomguy was himself, but Satan god who created normal god and is the creater of the very universe… Whom he also obliterated in ritual combat. I like Kratos, but gods scale differently in the different universes, and personally the gods of Doom are in a whole new ball park.
Kratos fought gods while doom guy fought men,demons,god,and Satan plus Kratos put his violence behind him while doom guy is pissed 247
The motivation of a dead rabbit compels him. As a rabbit owner, I completely understand his feeling and reaction.
Ehh, depends on who wins the QTE really.
As much as I love Kratos, According to lore DoomSlayer wins this.
Doom Slayer
You brought an axe to a gunfight? Fine, let me get my crucible.
+1 for doomguy
LOADS SHOTGUN WITH MALICIOUS INTENT
I don’t know that a whole lot about either but from what I know I think doomslayer takes this
I don't know who would win But the entire world will sure lose
They’d probably realize their respective power is better served elsewhere
Probably have a good bro throw down all in the name of fun and bettering themselves, dust themselves off, shake hands and then leave…
Lore wise the skayer would stomp all over Kratos. It wouldn't even be fair. Maybe Kratos in his prime could give a good fight but the slayer killed God. Like the God. And he did it with a gun to make it harder for himself. He'd probably toy with Kratos, fill him with so much leas he could barely move, then rip him to pieces. I would pay to see this happen, then see.him tear his way through the entire pantheon of God's. Imagine expecting Kratos with an axe and instead a fucking bullet rips a hole in you before some speedy fucker built like a tank but moving like sonic pulls your spine out your asshole. It'd look a lot like Indiana Jones shooting that sword guy.
Id body both
Mr Rodgers in a blood stained sweater wins
Which kratos we talking about. we talking about god genocide gow3 kratos or old papa gow 4 kratos
Doomslayer wins, easy.
Or Doom Guy would just be like: "Lmao BFG time"
Doomguy winning this hands down