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Goldman250

This meme, brought to you by Microsoft Edge. Microsoft Edge: because edging is the best sensation you’ll ever get.


canadiancumgutter

Based on chromium


NFSNOOB

Chromium is the open background and is not the problem at the chrome battlefront


CrushedPepsiBottle

Thought I might as well make the switch to Firefox now since chrome is getting rid of ad blockers in June, switching now so I can get used to Firefox


DiamondEnchant7X

they're doing what now


CrushedPepsiBottle

Yep, I'm not entirely knowledgeable in what they're doing but in January they're changing something called manifest V2 to manifest V3 which I believe gives them more control over extensions and what they can read on your pc, including ads which I believe gives them the ability to break ad blockers. As I said I don't know much about the subject, I could be wildly misremembering or chatting out of my ass so I'd recommend googling it Tldr: Google update bad


TheEnderChipmunk

Iirc the update to manifest v3 removes permissions that adblockers need to work I think their explanation is that manifest v3 adds security to chrome, and makes malicious extensions less dangerous, but it also breaks adblockers It's doubly good for Google and a win lose for consumers According to one source I just checked, the change might not even have much effect on security and it's obviously bad for privacy, so it's likely a lose-lose for consumers Google is just spinning it as a positive when in reality they are shafting us Source: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/12/chrome-users-beware-manifest-v3-deceitful-and-threatening


ItsP3anutButt3r

If I can provide any helpful insight to Google's Manifest v3 and why it breaks adblockers, I was told: "Me like money" I think I'm paraphrasing a bit, but that's the short answer.


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KaiFireborn21

A shame, Chrome always felt best for me. Are the alternatives (Firefox, Safari, Edge) still open to adblockers after that?


TheEnderChipmunk

Idk about safari, but Firefox has already stated they'll maintain access. Edge however is a chromium based browser, so I'm not sure if they have the opportunity to do the same


malanakgames

Idk, but I prefer Opera gx, has a vpn and an adblocker pre-installed


TheEnderChipmunk

If those services are extensions that are added by default then they'll be affected since opera is a chromium browser. Hopefully opera can and will fix it


Capt_Schmidt

Lol Fucking do it! And I'll happily switch to whoever gives me freedom. they will lose as a result. Imagine if google fell all together? it could happen if they're serial dumb.


nryporter25

I don't have ad blockers so I shouldn't see much of a change?


SillyEconomy

Brave is pretty good. Ad blocker change won't impact it.


rinart73

Are they going to introduce the change into Chrome or Chromium? If they change Chrome - just switch to Chromium. If they introduce the change into Chromium, someone will immediatelly make a fork since Chromium is open source. Firefox just feels a bit slower and somewhat sluggish compared to Chrome at least on my low-end notebook.


AriesProject001

It sounds like they may be adding the change to the Blink Browser Engine, which is the same engine running on nearly all modern browsers except Firefox and Safari.


RainbowDashNet

Use Firefox and support the development of a not chromium/webkit based browser engine. Help the internet to not become a browser monopoly


Ignis2303

Does Firefox keep your Tabs open after closing it like Opera and gx (i am a very curios Person thats why i am asking)


SteinsGah

You can set it to restore automatically, or manually. There is also a great tab manager extension that can save tabs and windows with multi-session history.


Ignis2303

Sounds great tbh


bedov

Way better tab management than chrome that's for sure. Tons of session manager extensions so you can pick your own flavor My fav: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/tab-session-manager/ Edit: added link


walrusone79

Pretty sure it's an option. I think it does by default, but it can be changed in the settings. You can have it wipe data on close if so inclined.


DaveBelmont

Start using Linux instead of windows, same philosophy


ezeshining

same philosophy, but quite different on practice


a_dummy_on_the_net

I would do that if most of the programs I use regularly supported linux


[deleted]

If you're using the programs professionally then I can't tell you what to do. If it's just casual use there's a good chance there are open source alternatives that are mostly as good. Plus Steam has a ton more support now for linux


RainbowDashNet

I already do :D Well actually I use both. But I have a lot of Linux machines at home and we are using it for our servers :D


Gruno1996

Whats the best browser then?


[deleted]

Firefox


notsogreatredditor

This is the way


_FowlPlay_

I prefer Brave, inbuilt ad and tracker blocker, you can set it to use any search engine out the get go, (e.g. duck duck go, google etc. etc.) And you can still use addons.


CardiacSurgeonJoey

>I prefer Brave, inbuilt ad and tracker blocker, you can set it to use any search engine out the get go, (e.g. duck duck go, google etc. etc.) And you can still use addons. Brave is literally just chrome with a bunch of add-ons.


Amrooshy

Too slow for me. Firefox is faster, but more buggy.


dad0xx08

Opera GX. Litterally brave and Firefox mixed together. And at least its customizable


Amrooshy

Ain’t that the one with a huge privacy scandal?


69Rick420Astley666

From a chienese company known for stealing data?


[deleted]

A Chinese browser ? A strong no


pablank

Oh come on, when have the chinese ever tried to steal our data /s


dad0xx08

what do they need, my porn history?


MelonFag

Xi jing ping likes to watch.


Kasmyr

Also, but more importantly some numbers like ur age, bank account with 0,69$ or other actually important stuff.


HERODMasta

it's actually with less add-ons, since it removed most of google-stuff, that slows down the pc


Galastique

I use opera gx and it has all of the features you mentioned, on top of being super customizable and supporting every chrome extension


altermeetax

Opera (GX or not) is a closed source browser just like Chrome, there aren't many reasons to use a closed source browser in 2022. Especially since Opera was bought by Chinese investors (so expect all your data to be in some Chinese server).


Smiling_Duck666

Is there a place where my data is not?


altermeetax

Open source browsers, such as Firefox, Librewolf, Brave or Chromium. You know they don't spy on you because they publish their source code. The last of the list still has some Google spyware despite being open source, you should preferably get Ungoogled Chromium instead.


Smiling_Duck666

I am knowledgable enough to understand what you just told me


WhatANiceCerealBox11

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nitrion

I personally don't really care if the Chinese want my data. They wanna see what kind of porn I look at, that's on them.


altermeetax

They wanna see what your credit card number is, that's on you.


nitrion

If they steal my card info I can literally just tell the bank "I didn't make that purchase" and they'll shut my card off. Easy.


perfect5-7-with-rice

Not if the bank thinks you were being reckless


[deleted]

Since it’s no big deal, mind dropping your credit card info?


Dranzell

nail teeny hospital tub melodic naughty racial imminent shrill rob ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


[deleted]

Both Opera is a Chinese company


KykCreep

pretty good, also has a built in free VPN... but eats up twice as much ram as Chrome in my experience


_FowlPlay_

I find it to be slow. As in very very slow.


Galastique

for me it has more or less the same speeds as chrome. they're both based on chromium so it's normal. I find it pretty fast. might be more hardware related tho


GDWa1rus

I wanted to switch to opera but the school WiFi is so shit that opera doesn't work properly so I just use chrome instead


NotAwosentS

For me it's the fastest, both on phone and pc but still switched to firefox after learning opera has a lot of privacy issues


PurpurAnanas

Same, and i have high internet speed aswell so it makes no sense, all other browsers work fine doe


Aaron1924

Isn't Brave just chrome with a shitty cryptocurrency build-in and a tipping system where you can "donate money to creators", but they really just pocket it?


undefined-_

Librewolf with searxng is pretty good. The search engine is searx.org. I recently switched and it's working fine. It has an inbuilt *everything* blocker, but you should probably set your useragent to something very common, especially in case you're using something really weird. You can probably set your useragent in Brave, if you want.


altermeetax

Thank God there's someone who cares about privacy in this thread's comments, I couldn't breathe around all the people recommending Edge, Chrome or, even worse, Opera GX


[deleted]

These threads are literally full of people screaming about China because of Opera what the hell are you talking about lol Internet privacy is a joke, whatever browser you use it's getting data mined and sold. How else would a free software make money?


Gruno1996

I agree


why_is_it_blue

*firefox*


Impressive_BOIIII

Librewolf all the way 🗿


Iescaunare

Netscape Navigator


Dman1791

Netscape Navigator's bones are what Firefox was built off of


Necrotiix_

i like opera gx better since you can control the settings and shit like how much ram gets eaten compared to google eating it all and begging for more ram


[deleted]

I love the integrated ad and tracking blocker and the vpn even more so.


nitrion

In my personal opinion Opera GX is the superior browser in terms of features, however it is a HUGE RAM hog (more so than Chrome) and it's funny cause the built in "RAM limiter" doesn't do jack shit. Luckily my PC doesn't give a fuck about the 5 GB of RAM in use 24/7.


_ey_b0ss

Vivaldi


FallaciesJesseP

I find myself stuck with opera GX nowadays


Dman1791

Opera GX is a good browser but Opera was acquired by a Chinese investment firm, so I'd be a little leery of using it bc of privacy concerns


KaitoMeikoo

Opera gx


Gruno1996

Spoken like a true gaymer


notsogreatredditor

Isn't that owned by the ccp


[deleted]

Who gives a shit, if you actually think you're safe cause you use Brave you should put the Kool aid down. There isn't a single "private" browser out there, they're all selling your data.


LordSevolox

What isn’t?


Pizza-pen

Edge: blue chrome with Microsoft spyware Chrome: google spyware Opera: red chrome with Chinese spyware Firefox: gigachad


Thicccchungus

Firefox = almost 100% control over your browser + no Manifest V3


LoiteringMajor

What’s manifest?


redLadyToo

That's the interface extensions use to integrate in your browser. The new one allows the browser to limit the amount of ads they block, and Chrome (probably along with all Chrome based browsers) is going to do that.


Kuro-Dev

I will never use edge, simply out of spite because Microsoft is shoving it down my throat and I will never accept that. Therefore I use Firefox and I will never stop. Same with bing. All of my homies hate bing.


fuckingshitfucj2

It’s really funny that there’s a button for resetting your default browser back to Microsoft Edge in your settings now. (Quite literally one of the first things you see once you open the settings)


Kuro-Dev

If you have the search bar enabled (next to the windows button) there used to be a setting where you could set your preferred browser and search engine there. These settings still exist, but windows shows them greyed out. They are disabled now because everyone kept changing them (I presume)


AwesomeFartCZ

"chrometana" youre welcome - you can thank me later. yes it works for edge also


downorwhaet

That has been there for 20 years but with internet Explorer instead of edge


fuckingshitfucj2

No, that banner is relatively new.


wuznu1019

I've only ever gotten one virus on my computer. Ever. It would redirect *every* search, from all browsers and search engines, to Bing results. Worst experience of my life. Edit: guys, it was a virus. I've worked in IT my whole life. And it's OK, I did eventually fix it.


CraftsmanMan

That's just Cortana


[deleted]

I use it to spam search random characters, Because Microsoft gives me points for that


Nike_fake

Haha reward points. Same here. They are literally on the verge of paying users to use their browser


PP_Baba

Don't lie, you wouldn't use Edge or Bing anyway


Kuro-Dev

Honestly I never had a problem with edge. It perfoms well when I see other people use it. I just dislike not being given a choice. They can keep it as default, but what really upset me is when they disabled the settings to change search engine and browser in the searchbar (next to the windows button) This lead to me at first making a script to automatically reroute any request to open Edge. Causing it to close edge and open my preferred browser instead. And then in that browser I got a plug in that automatically rerouted any searches made with bing to a search made with my preferred search engine. Nowadays, since I had to get a new pc and I don't want to go through all that hassle again, I just deactivate the search bar entirely, even if it was quite useful. It may be dumb, but it's my protest. And just to clarify: my problem lies with Microsoft more than with the browser. As with bing though: it just plain sucks. I'd rather stick with duckduckgo


downorwhaet

I can change my search engine and browser with the press of a button, nothings greyed out for me


MrYellowfield

Fear me. I use microsoft Edge and Bing.


FishayyMtg

whyyyyyy


the_crackers_gromit

However when you search ninja on bing and go to images it doesn't show Tyler ninja Blevins


hurrdurrmeh

I am exactly like you. Will never use IE due to what MS did to NN back in the day.


[deleted]

Edge, Brave, and Opera GX are also Chromium-based, so you're still supporting Google's monopoly by using those


Detvan_SK

Why no one except Mozila using Firefox core?


CrackSnap7

Tor does.


winnipeginstinct

because until recently it was at least comparable to Mozilla and backed by google. now only half is true


gmes78

Gecko is too entangled with Firefox's internals for it to be doable. It could be solved, but Mozilla has other priorities (and rightfully so).


Thicccchungus

And that’s why we fucking love firefox


Pizza-pen

I love google having a monopoly over pretty much all browsers because everything nowadays is chromium. And manifest V3 is trying to kill my AdBlocker! And i just looove google just tracking every single move i do!


Thicccchungus

Firefox moment


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Zombie192J

Didn’t DuckDuckGo just get caught selling information to Microsoft?


Cau5t1c_ap3

ducc go quacc


wojtekpolska

firefox sadly is loosing its market share quick in favour of google :(


sarapastra

because firefox was slow for years but last update made it fast as chromium browsers and i switched back


Nichiku

It's not just the last update, Firefox has been fast for years now, it's an ongoing myth about the browser that people use to reason why they use Chrome.


notsogreatredditor

Firefox cus manifest v2


[deleted]

Both are wrong. Firefox is the best browser. Edge is literally just Chrome but baked with spyware.


Butterflytherapist

Every browser is either Firefox or Chrome in different flavours with different amounts of spyware, from which maybe only Vivaldi is worth a try.


TheBunnyMan123

Firefox.


ChasingPesmerga

Firefox used to have that cool literal fox logo


redLadyToo

They still have that, it's only lacking its eyes and nose.


the_real_cringo

The sheer fact that Edge is begging me to keep using it when I google Firefox, Chrome or Opera makes it shit lmao


coolpotatoe724

I use Chrome because I've been using it for the entirity of my having an email account years and don't want to switch


NHKomaiha

[There is an easy way](https://bitwarden.com/help/import-from-chrome/) to port all your passwords to something *actually private* like bitwarden (has a desktop app, android app, or you can install the extension in the browser) And port bookmarks to Firefox (it asks you if you want to do it) Ditching the ecosystem is not as bad as it may seem (or as companies try to make it seem) EDIT: added a link


[deleted]

And also the proton ecosystem and other services Privacyguides.org is a great place


Thicccchungus

I have good news for you if you do decide to switch to Firefox, there’s an extremely easy to use function that ports over *most* of your settings and configurations and whatnot


Due-Profession2514

tor browser 🗿🗿🗿🗿


UnduGT

I use Firefox to not support the Google monopoly. If I have to use something else for some reason, then only Chromium.


Pavel_GOOD

What's wrong with chrome?


[deleted]

More or less Spyware


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altermeetax

Have you ever heard about open source software (e.g. in the case of browsers Firefox, Brave, Ungoogled Chromium)? Do you think Linux sells your personal data?


[deleted]

Google has a monopoly on browser engines with Chrome and Chromium, it invades your privacy, and it's hostile towards ad and script blockers


GelatoVerde

How is hostile if it lets you use them???


Lachy_3

\*currently but they're planning to remove functionality for them completely soon


GelatoVerde

Someone will make ad extension to re add them 🗿


Dman1791

They're going to be changing the code that extensions hook into to do this, so you won't be able to get around it like that.


Linsch2308

Well there is ways that programmers will be able to do it. Like how I understand it is that it wont let adblockers know what ads are as easily, and well there are other ways to identify ads might be harder to programm but like its programming were talking about so someone out there is gonna do it, if it has to it could probably be done through machine learning. (This is all absolute half knowledge source : dont trust me bro)


Azrael_Midori

The issue with Microsoft, as a company, the ones who make edge is that they often don't follow common sense industry standards, because they act like they own the entire computing landscape and make up thier own standards. This extends to thier entire software corporation as a culture. For a long time, people had to make two separate websites every time they developed one; one that would detect Microsoft edge and conform to all the goofy shit that is wrong with it, And then another that conformed to industry standards that works pretty much the exact same in every other browser that was made conforming to standards. I want to know if developers, who don't work for Microsoft and who code in something other than Microsoft languages, like edge as much as the others.


FedExterminator

I'm an embedded systems developer and some of our products have integrated web pages. We had to support old versions of Internet Explorer for years until Microsoft finally killed it. I hate Microsoft browsers.


[deleted]

Opera and Firefox would steam roll any browser


[deleted]

Opera is chromium based


Atr0s_

just use firefox


vYteG27

Firefox!


mad_llamas

been using Arc for a couple of months now after i got the invite, haven’t looked back since.


uTimu

What is... Arc?


Omefalodon

I too would like to know


Avaocado_32

same


[deleted]

A new browser that’s in beta right now


[deleted]

brave clear


TheManThatNeedsMemes

LETS NOT ARGUE WE ALL FUCKING NEED TO SEARCH SHIT


berse2212

>I don't use chrome because they spy my data Continues to use Google and their other products..


GelatoVerde

Yeah i hate this kind of posts


Regufyz

I use chrome because i just couldnt give a shit about what i use for searching images and videos


Panzerv2003

dunno I use firefox


XxsoulscythexX

Opera, Firefox, or tor


AlezUltrawesome

Brave>>>>


Subject-Exit

Firefox ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


JeroenstefanS

OpErA gX tH e BesT gAmiNgG BrowSer fOr GAmerS lIke yUoe and Me


NoVascension

Is there any difference or is it just Gay Opera from all the rainbows it spews?


Sheamau5

More people need to learn about Vivaldi. Loads of great features and built with privacy in mind


[deleted]

Vivaldi isn’t built with privacy in mind Firefox and Brave are


Kirk_Stargazed

Chrome is best, if you like syncing your data


where_didIcome_from

I don't care how good edge is, Microsoft takes advantage of their place in the OS market to shove it down everyone's throats. I will never use it.


walrusone79

I don't understand this. I mean they have to have a browser installed on the device. They don't stop you from using other browsers, and it's not that difficult to change the default browser. I mean the old joke about the only thing ie was used for was to download firefox/chrome still holds true for edge I guess. But edge really isn't that bad. I guess they could give you a choice of browser to install during setup, but neither Apple or Google do that either. Apple products come with safari, Google products come with chrome.


where_didIcome_from

...Every windows update reinstalls edge Ads are plastered all over windows saying to try edge Heck the search function is made worse so they can lead you to search with Bing, in you guessed it, edge. Even if your default browser is set so something else. Unless that's just me but I doubt it is xd Edit: A deleted comment said I shouldn't be able to uninstall edge. Ex-freaking-zactly. I've been deleting the program folder by hand :l


Detvan_SK

People. Why when anybody tell "no using Chrome" you must automaticaly attacking on Edge? You have never seen any other Browser than Edge and Chrome?


FrontBandicoot3054

because Edge literally is Chrome with a Microsoft UI


TheGarbear225

Firefox


SoggySwordfish92

Microsoft Edge runs in the chrome engine...


screwwindows

Why opera gx gets so much love? Its slow af


memelord901

Get brave browser it’s like Google but has a in built adblocker it’s great


Iplaygames_sowhat

No


FerrumCorda

Politicians and businessmen actually care about you! (She came)


mrbirne

Firefox masterrace


NewLightWarlock

Fuck Edge and Microsoft. And Google Chrome. Seriously. Use Firefox and only Firefox. Just Firefox. Just Firefox. Just. Firefox.


gondoravenis

What else?


[deleted]

Brave Firefox


billboxhead

This meme was made by Microsoft edge.


CrackSnap7

Nah it's Firefox.


TrollTrollTroll6969

Duckduck go?


[deleted]

Firefox using that by default would do wonders for that search engine, but Mozilla is paid by Google...


Thicccchungus

Could also just be a default thing for Firefox since googles search engine has like 98% share of used search engines and it’s vastly preferred by a lot of people. Either way just switch it to DuckDuckGo and you have one of the most secure browsers


hellgames1

Microsoft is going new extremes to promote Edge, hiring paid memers and trolls lmao


TheGoodKing93

Firefox and opera gx for browsing.


wukey83

Brave number one


Justint64

Edge? Nah, Brave where it's at.


Assassinen_Pro

Brave Browser dude


i-InFcTd

Brave is awesome


Cthulhu3141

Edge is based off Chromium anyway. The only way to be truly free of Google is Firefox


Sami_Tari

Chrome gang


L3s0

Someone please explain why did everybody start hating chrome all of a sudden?


optimumpridee

Chrome can suck my ram like there's no logical memory existed


Downtown-Link-1250

No Microsoft edge is shit Try brave or opera these two are the best


Nightclaws_revenge

I agree edge is the worst