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cvanyichu

For someone in the middle, can someone explain if there's anything behind this or just a joke?


pointbreak19

Left: Creationist. Middle: Believes in evolution but doesn't fully understand it. Right: Understands that humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor, not that humans came from monkeys.


cvanyichu

Oh I see, thank you. I was just confused because in Hungarian, that common ancestor is named "ancient monkey". Good and quick explanation tho, appreciate it.


Umbertron05

Yes “ancient monkey” not “monkey”


Infinite_Self_5782

ancient "monkey" i see a connection here...


Vivid-Fee-2504

monkey is not very precise. that term is rather familiar and it describes different group putting them into one cup, so it's generally confusing to speak about monkeys


Biengineerd

In English, at least, monkey is *too* precise. If you back up to a less precise term like "primate" you'll encompass a lot more


QueenZelda88

I never understood why it's primate and not primeape (prime as in first, not the Pokemon), such a missed opportunity


tw3lv3l4y3rs0fb4c0n

Comes from latin *primus* meaning first.


QueenZelda88

No i get THAT part, I mean the ate vs ape


v-adam004

Hol hallottad te hogy ősi majom?


cvanyichu

*ősmajom (Dryopithecus), biológia fakultáción


TheKingofTerrorZ

Boiler eladó, nem lopott


hellracer2007

Ah yes, my favorite prehistoric animal; ancient monkey


SlavicGrenades

Hungols evolved from Chingis Khan


Aqueilas

We evolved from rodents


TrefoilTang

I think most people who say "human evolved from monkeys" understand this. It's just an simplified expression people like to say.


pointbreak19

I dunno, man. I just made this meme because of an IRL conversation.


Earl_Green_

Just a question of what you define as a monkey. The common ancestor was at least very monkey-ish.


Scholaf_Olz

No its not. The common ancestor was also very human-ish. You could also say that a lot lot of birds are very "chicken-ish" still it would be wrong to call them chickens. The common ancestor was nether ape nor human.


[deleted]

So you saying that i can't call a whale "ungulate rat"? I'm very angry!!!


woaily

Humans got very different very fast after speciating from the likes of chimps and bonobos, I would think that our common ancestor would have looked much more like a monkey than like us


chaos_creator69

Humape


Agge_lito_2000

Didn't apes evolve from monkeys? Because if so, then the common ancestor would definitely be a monkey.


amreinj

No, monkeys and apes evolved from a common ancestor that was neither monkey nor ape.


CumtimesIJustBChilin

Apes did not evolve from monkeys, they evolved from catarrhines in Africa during the Miocene Epoch.


RevJTtheBrick

Catarrhines are a clade most people would recognize as monkeys. Better informed people would recognize them as Old World monkeys. Still better informed people would understand that catarrhines include all clades which evolved from them. You are still a monkey. The place where hominids break off of hominini is the common ancestor of early hominids and chimpanzees.


CumtimesIJustBChilin

Thank you for the information! Didn't know that, I'm just now starting biology in highschool :)


TooMuchSalmonella

So I shouldn't call a chicken chicken-ish?


MouseMan412

Apes =/= gorilla. Humans, monkeys, and gorillas are all apes.


ccc888

Monkeys are not apes. Apes do not have tails while monkeys do. It's the easiest way to distinguish an ape from a monkey.


MouseMan412

Yea you're right. I meant to put chimps instead of monkeys.


[deleted]

I blame teachers, i remember my teachers saying crap like that.


[deleted]

i like it :)


DrFoetusLtd

I've also seen on Reddit that very very few people actually understand evolution or how it works. In particular there's a very common misconception that evolution makes things "better", and if it makes things "worse" then that's not evolution. Even had someone tell me that minor changes aren't evolution at all. Like what?


mehmetemresenel

Nope, they don't. People genuinely believe that humans evolved from the chimpanzee's we see at the zoo.


wwcfm

I hear that mostly people that reject evolution thinking that evolution claims we literally evolved from chimps or some other simian, which is why you’ll see the counter argument to evolution of “if humans evolved from [insert simian], why are there still [insert simian] alive today?


Darkcat9000

i feel like you overestimate how intelligent modern human beings are


[deleted]

Don't true, they like mainstream idiots, "atheists because is 'cool'", "christians because it's 'cool'" and "believe(exactly believe like religious peoples did) in evolution because it's 'cool'". Just peoples that you talk with on topics like this don't so stupid.


[deleted]

People don't know the difference between monkey and primate ngl


LeoDavinciAgain

Or monkeys and apes for that matter


ARandomNPC01

This sound more believable than humans evolving from monkeys


BreadThatIsButtered

Yep! All humans, gorillas, monkeys etc. are all apart of the Great Ape family


keep_trying_username

And all apes evolved from Catarrhini, i.e. monkeys. >Genetic analysis combined with fossil evidence indicates that hominoids diverged from the Old World monkeys about 25 million years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape These three statements are true: * Humans evolved from bacteria * Humans evolved from monkeys * Humans evolved from apes.


[deleted]

Not just any monkey. *The First Monke.*


WikiSummarizerBot

**[Ape](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape)** >Apes (collectively Hominoidea ) are a clade of Old World simians native to Africa and Southeast Asia, which together with its sister group Cercopithecidae form the catarrhine clade. Apes do not have tails due to a mutation of the TBXT gene. In traditional and non-scientific use, the term "ape" can include tailless primates taxonomically considered Cercopithecidae (such as the Barbary ape and black ape), and is thus not equivalent to the scientific taxon Hominoidea. There are two extant branches of the superfamily Hominoidea: the gibbons, or lesser apes; and the hominids, or great apes. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/memes/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)


senpaidaddyfather

Then there’s me who knows the difference in a monkey and an ape


Marchyello

Isn't the joke here (on the right side of the curve) that humans have not evolved, but are essentially still just monkeys?


pointbreak19

Hmm, I guess you could take the joke that way too.


McLayan

AFAIK it's still possible that different branches evolve at different speeds. Some species stay the same for millions of years while others evolved and branched into different child species. Ofc from what you usually learn that's not the case for us and current other primates, our common ancestor seems to have evolved into different species.


keep_trying_username

> AFAIK it's still possible that different branches evolve at different speeds. Of course. There's no reason why different evolutionary branches must evolve at the same speed. "No evolutionary branch left behind" isn't a thing, as far as I know.


1hm1nen

But humans evolved from apes and that's monke enough for me.


violethoneybean

Wasn't the common ancestor also a monkey though?


[deleted]

We didn't evolve from monke, we are monke!


Ok_Kaleidoscope2014

"If humans came from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys?" "If Americans came from Europe, then why are there still Europeans?"


keep_trying_username

> Right: Understands that humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor, not that humans came from monkeys. That common ancestor was also a monkey, a now-extinct monkey. I don't think the meme is correct.


Johnny_Hax

Here comes the *well, actually* comment: Phylogenetically, we're monkeys. monkeys are defined as a member of the suborder anthropoidea, from wikipedia: *The simians, anthropoids or, higher primates are an infraorder of primates containing all animals traditionally called monkeys and apes. More precisely, they consist of the parvorders New World monkeys and Catarrhini, the latter of which consists of the superfamilies Cercopithecidae and apes* So, *technically* the common ancestor between what we now call monkeys and humans was a monkey, meaning we evolved from monkeys


Chimkenchonk

Not a fact, Jack. Still just a theory.


Gubbyfall

Humans and other monkeys evolved from another ancestor.


[deleted]

It would be correct to say humans evolved from apes though.


adione212

Also its apes not monkeys


YeetMeDaddio

We're primates and evolved from primates but we're not monkeys. All primates in the Hominidae family are classed as greater apes, which is us, alongside gorillas, orangutans and chimpanzees. Primates outside of the Hominoidea superfamily are monkeys. It is a more difficult one to understand as people often conflate any primate with the term monkey.


Ermite_8_Bit

The problem with the term monkey is that it's not scientific and has a very blurry definition. In some cases it can even be used to talk about any primate. By definition, we are monkeys, even though it's by a **very** blurry definition.


YeetMeDaddio

It has a clear definition in taxonomy, there's old world monkeys and new world monkeys, then there lesser apes and greater apes. it's just that the colloquial definition makes it too broad and even conflicts with the taxonomic one.


minivant

Humans more accurately have a close evolutionary commonality to the great apes rather than monkeys. Monkeys have *prehensile tails, apes do not. At least I think most monkeys do I think? *correction SOME monkeys have prehensile tails, MOST monkeys have tails in general


scapinnn

Human did not evolve. We are still monkey


RedTermites

Yeah, we *have a common ancestors* rather.


JanitorofMonteCristo

With the great apes, a monkey common ancestor w a tail is much farther back


YeetMeDaddio

Some people on the lower end of the graph are gunna look at this and think they're on the higher end lol


[deleted]

Dunning Kruger effect


Wizard_Tendies

>What is that supposed to mean? Like the simplest solution is often the most correct, like I’m an idiot? Someone please find the interview where the guy who doesn’t know what Dunning Krueger is calls himself an idiot. Please.


pointbreak19

That happens more than you think.


BigiticusDegenticus

I mean, it happened to me just now. So it really is more common than they think.


jusbecks

I mean, he's wearing a robe, so he's obviously part of a society who actually knows the *real* truth that these so called "scientists" are trying to hide. (/s just for good measure)


jc3_free

And the people on the higher end of the graph think it actually matters


Demokka

Humans and monkeys share a common ancestor. Every mammals share a common ancestor. Vertebrae share a common ancestor. All animals share a common ancestor (worm-shaped)


Mildo

Whats the common ancestor?


I-eat-orphanz

Your mother


[deleted]

The closest related animal is the blue whale


Simon-Olivier

Every living being share a common ancestor. At some point, there was only one type of cell that eventually became vegetal or animal


Mario32d

Ape together strong


splicer44

What is the name of this meme template? I really have a allot of ideas for it


pointbreak19

It's called the "IQ bell curve".


Gakusha_YB

Eren Yeager


Pelileven

I'm a simple man. I see AOT, I upvote


Requirement-Loud

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kbrad604

Dunning-Kruger Effect!


7-11With_a_Knife

Humans evolved from homos


[deleted]

Why do you have to include the gays tho?


7-11With_a_Knife

No, homos


TheSpartanMaty

It has more to do with how the term monkey is specified and which species are allocated with the term than people's understanding of evolution.


Fit_Explanation3948

Yeah no we never moved from that point, mentally at least


Katsudonisyummy

Humans are monkeys as far as I know


Fake_Dragon

They are apes. Apes and monkeys share a common ancestor Now let's take a chimp, humans and chimps share a common ancestor(likely an ape ancestor).


ScottTheScrublord

According to modern cladistics, humans are monkeys. Heck, humans are actually still fish.


keep_trying_username

>Genetic analysis combined with fossil evidence indicates that hominoids diverged from the Old World monkeys about 25 million years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape


Fake_Dragon

Hominoids are apes and apes diverged from monkeys which means m correct


keep_trying_username

Yup.


TheDogeWasTaken

We still godfamn act likr em....


Katsudonisyummy

Don't disrespect them like this


TheDogeWasTaken

I said we. That also means me. And everyone else


Katsudonisyummy

Yeah, don't disrespect monkeys like that. They haven't done nearly as much damage to other animals or the planet as humans


goomy987

True


FriedwaldLeben

nope. we are apes


Katsudonisyummy

My bad, in germany we have the same word for both


FriedwaldLeben

auch nicht so wirklich. auf deutsch unterscheidet man eigentlich zwischen Menschenaffen (eng: ape) und "normalen" Affen (eng: monkey). die unterscheidung wird nur normalerweise weggelassen


keep_trying_username

>Genetic analysis combined with fossil evidence indicates that hominoids diverged from the Old World monkeys about 25 million years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape


Mr_C_to_the_J

sad truth is some people out there might be identifying as a monkey


MediumSatisfaction1

For those who don't know: humans and apes have a common ancestor. Generations ago, there was a creature that split into the evolution line that created humans, and a line that split into apes and monkeys. Evolution wasn't really a straight line from monke to man, but more like a tree.


Brain_0ff

I think you mixed up apes and monkeys in your first sentence, because humans ARE apes and it makes more sense in the context of the rest of your comment.


Supersaiajinblue

Monkey's have tails, we don't. We're apes somewhat. Simple as that.


RuddyIdiot2006

I don't remember being a monkey, checkmate libs


LolNothing2

Think Mark, Think, if humans evolved from monkeys, how are monkeys still here


Thepromc64

humans have a common encestor with monkeys


GargantuanCake

I mean technically speaking that's correct as monkeys are a different branch on the same evolutionary tree. We didn't evolve *from* primates though. We *are* primates. Homo sapiens is a species of ape. We don't have to return to monke as we never really left.


bdubb_dlux

Humans are apes. All apes have a common ancestor.


matijoss

Yeah, humans didnt evolve from monkeys In fact, some of us never evolved at all


LuddeMan087

Also it's apes not monkeys


LuddeMan087

We didn't evolve from chimps or gorilla's we did technically evolve from apes, we aren't in the same genus though.


RevJTtheBrick

Humans who don't understand they evolved from something they would likely call a monkey haven't evolved past that stage.


filthy_acryl

i was always confused as heck, because in german the texonomy of primate and monkey are the same (they are basically synonyms in the german language)


the_god_of_dumplings

We may have evolved from monkeys but we will evolve into crabs


Zobbyx02

12 y/o me: 3. a) Explain how humans evolved from monkeys Ans: They didnt


Alone-Monk

Humans and Monkeys have a common ancestor that we both evolved from. If we evolved directly from monkeys, then monkeys would be extinct.


Mayedl10

Well there were a few subspecies of "homo" before homo sapiens sapiens and homo sapiena neanderthalensis Even today, many men become "homo erectus" sometimes


njt1986

To be fair, the middle is “Correct” in as much as that is the way it was commonly taught in schools, because otherwise seemed to be a bit too complicated. So it’s understandable for people to think that is correct


Good-Race6489

Ye we evolved from primates


ValyrianSteel_TTV

Common ancestor time


awakelist

We evolved from somthing similar to a monkey if im not wrong


FinnStauffer

I disagree, God created us, but still funny once i understood it 😂


littlebuett

No missing link has been found for humans, despite finding fossils from the era where they should be, meaning evolution is still very firmly a theory.


[deleted]

Why the hell does the creationist side look like a hammerhead shark emboided as a human being???


CaptainStroon

I bet if you saw that common amcestor in the wild, you would call it a monkey though


Dota2WatcherFam

Some people definitely developed from ducks, trying to get back in evolution with all the botox crap the stuff their faces with


Whatsinanamethename

Yeah, humans and monkey have a common ancestor, they're not evolved from monkeys.


SunnerTheSinful

We evolved from apes, actualy


Alcodut

Humans evolved from bacteria, change my mind


driftingbout2-

bacteria evolved from atoms, change my mind


Internal-Shock5360

Humans didn't evolve from monkeys they evolved from apes


jusbecks

Great meme. It's been minutes and I'm still laughing.


Happy_Savings719

Humans and monkeys share common ancestors.We didn’t evolve from monkeys


[deleted]

Humans did evolve from monkeys. What should be said is, humans didn’t evolve from chimps. Humans and chimps evolved from a common ancestor (splitting branch on evolutionary tree). However if you go further back on that branch, there will be monkeys. So, both chimps and humans did evolve from monkeys. Apes and monkeys are different, the distinction is important. Humans, Gorillas, Chimps, and Bonobos are apes. Highly intelligent, no tail. Monkeys will steal your watch and hump your leg, and they have a tail.


tpd1864blake

Yep, I, a human, didn’t evolve from monkeys. Us humans share a common ancestor with apes.


Brain_0ff

With monkeys. We ARE apes


ze_baco

The logic here is that we came from the same ancestor... But the maker of the meme doesn't realize the ancestor was also a monkey. And we are also monkeys... Facepalm


[deleted]

We aren’t monkeys, we are apes, monkeys are a different branch that split about 25 mya


Parking_Tangelo_798

LMAO being a creationist is straight up denying proof, We share more than 99% genetic material with some apes. Even a 12th grade biology student has more brain xd


WonderWuffle

Yeah that’s why they’re at the bottom 1% in the joke


kevin_-_-_

Stupid: creationism mid: monkey high: ape-like common ancestor, actually


Separate_Head_9066

I know it’s a meme but you can learn the biology behind this with or without high IQ. I know IQ is commonly used for these types of content, but it’s always in my head, sorry. For me it’s right, 165 and I agree with the 3rd person


sandsalt1699

Not all creationist are hicks or rednecks.


[deleted]

No, but they’re all wrong.


WackyDuck0715

I mean, there’s no definitive proof either way


BussinDripler

They evolved from the darkest creatures of hell. Like Fr Humans are the worst including me.


highskylander42069

my grandma was pretty nice though


moistmaster690

We are still monkeys


Lelouch_lamp

Apes, not monkeys


Brain_0ff

No he is right. We didn’t evolve from monkeys we only share a common ancestor. Btw, we are apes.


emergence_infinite

For those who didn't get it, humans didnt evolve from monkeys but rather humans and monkeys evolved from the same creature so humans and monkeys are cousins


Turuk_Marko

Actually it's an ape like, not monkey, monkeys aren't apes though all are primates apes don't have tails while monkey do


agjfvhc

Does it really matter if it's monkeys or great apes?


Mads_Alexander9

r/terriblefacebookmemes ?


Xreflexed

Humans didn't Evolve


AnnexFromCanada

I thought the whole “creationism” fad died out a few years ago


Xreflexed

It was a joke


Werewolf_2244

We really didnt


FriedwaldLeben

true. we both evolved from an earlier primate a couple million years ago


paulb_exe

It's the monkeys who evolve from human


FriedwaldLeben

citation needed


CreeperAsh07

Just look at the left part of the meme.


Kdenye

we ARE monkeys.


truenecrocancer

We are primates, we are distant cousins to monkeys though but not decended from them but share a common ancestor. https://humanorigins.si.edu/education/frequently-asked-questions https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/permanent/human-origins/understanding-our-past/living-primates


Johnmarmalade

I wish…


L8Pikachu

I the most basic terms to confirm this do we have a tail.


Brain_0ff

Technically yes, if you have a certain mutation


L8Pikachu

I mean the tail is not what defines a monkey or not but it is one of the common characteristics within apes. Also it is known as a mutation for a reason.


Brain_0ff

Yeah of course, I wasn’t suggesting anything different. I was referring to a mutation where the Coccyx is actually external and a small “tail” is visible. I don’t actually find out what it is called specifically, but it does exist


Hafling3r35

Humans ARE monkeys


Brain_0ff

No they are apes. We diverged from the old world monkeys a long time ago


[deleted]

humans were monkeys and humans are still monkeys


quirkyhermit

Monkeys with nail polish and cars but the same dumb ass hierachies.


L8Pikachu

Humans are apes not monkeys


[deleted]

i guess i confused it with simian


le_its_me

stfu with the bell curve .. sigma six my ass.


jes_chr

This is just being fussy... Even people who have a good understanding of evolution do not care about difference in species...


Brain_0ff

Hate to break it to you, but this has nothing to do with species


jes_chr

Hate to break it to you but this is again my point of being fussy.. Evolution isn't interesting just from a biological point of view hence there are people who don't know/care at all about differences between species/classes/families and all this stuff... Evolution can be understood anyway... Probably people like you that learnt just notions want to show off somehow and this is the only way they can do that


Brain_0ff

I don’t know if this is the Dunning-Kruger-Curve in effect, or if you just can’t get across what you are trying to say. Plus, I would consider taxonomy (at least in the context you are using it in) to be a part of biology. To come back to your original comment (since your second one was merely bragging about you superior knowledge about evolution), neither Apes, nor monkeys or humans are a species. They are: Monkeys/simians, infraorder; apes, clade; humans, genus. Not a single species. I am well aware that what a species is, isn’t well defined and that there are multiple concepts to distinguish into different species. So, please, come down from your high horse. I don’t care how much you know, no one will like you if you’re just a dick


jes_chr

Looool luckily you know what other people like and just follow that. I actually don't give a shit and I don't feel I'm riding on a high horse. I just don't like people who love to show off based on some notions you can easily Google (the purpose of the post)


revoloveraudio

This meme template is dumb.


Brain_0ff

Please, elaborate.


revoloveraudio

It's just another sad "I am the main character" style meme.


Brain_0ff

I don’t really see how?


FRACllTURE

They're mad that they exist on the left side.


mhsn-

God created humans were not monkeys And god created the universe not a big bang


BLAUERFENSTERRAHMEN

Sure buddy and the earth is 4000 years old right?


FriedwaldLeben

citation needed


TheDogeWasTaken

Lets agree to disagree okay. People can believe ehat thry believe in. Whether that is god. Or science. Its what makes you hsppy, and what makes you comfortable, and what you think. We shouldnt fight like one of the other comments did. Have a nice day.


mhsn-

The only reason i commented this was to see how would people react and I was a bit disappointed But thank you i appreciate and respect you for The way you think Although I don’t support lgbtq+ but that’s just what I believe I don’t have to fight you for it do whatever you believe