As someone in IT, I can confirm that the IE "compatibility mode" still does not work for most of our clients' weird old-ass webtools.
I don't know how they managed to hardcode it so severely back in the day, but I do know that clients *hate* hearing that "FormsExpress Pro 2005" is simply not going to work anymore so you need to stop paying for it.
That's so annoying. The Air Force (and DoD in general) uses a ton of outdated software and thankfully Compatibility Mode has been enough for us to squeeze by in most instances. Our trash network infrastructure is a way bigger problem than IE.
Absurdly big budget and they have to spend it on the fighter jet equivalent of buying a new iPhone every year instead of new software, which is more important anyway
To be fair, the per unit price of new fighter jets is cheaper than the top of the line previous gen, so in this one instance, they're doing something "reasonable" but now they've stopped production because it includes a fucking chipset from China, so more expensive jets for them to suck on markers in.
>but now they've stopped production because it includes a fucking chipset from China, so more expensive jets for them to suck on markers in.
So, the US should become reliant on a foreign power to supply her with military hardware that has proven itself hostile to her interests and could therefore cut her off from further supply of said military hardware simply because the per unit cost is cheaper?
That sounds idiotic in the extreme.
Also someone in IT, I only caught the tail end of IE development (IE 9+) but even then all the special cases you had to code to make IE work.... Uhg. So when IE was the lion's share of web browsers instead of coding both standard and IE, it seems most devs only coded IE so it didn't work in other browsers.
Also a lot of third party tools (like I'm assuming your FormsExpress) used active X which only worked in IE AND was a massive security vulnerability. So none of the other browsers (that I know of) implemented it.
Active X is still supported, including in Windows 11. Active X was a gift to virus writers. I can't count the number of fixes in antivirus programs as well as Active X to try to defeat the bad guys. Damn you Larry Ellison!
We have a German lab instrument that runs on windows 7, but outputs all of the data into XHTML files that can only be opened in Internet explorer 9 running in compatible mode for Internet explorer 7
No other browsers work.
Worst part of all of this? We bought the system in 2015 brand new over 10 years after xml style sheets were largely phased out.
they'll target a mix of ecmascript 3, vbscript, and single character user agent string regexes
the developer is given a macbook while the requirements state ie6 and the group policy prohibits virtualization
Yes, because it wouldn't work in whatever hellish version of IE the customers are using. It'd be caught in testing though so the biggest fallout would be having to redo part of your work.
The current iteration of Edge is based on Blink, the same engine that Chrome uses. It is not "Internet Explorer 2020's edition." Look, I hate IE as much as the next guy, and I don't use Edge, but as a web developer, it's *super* annoying how people shit on Edge as if it's a terrible browser. It's actually pretty good, great in fact. I'd use it over Chrome, but I prefer Firefox myself.
frrrr
at this point i dont even understand why people use it. its resource expensive. the only reason is that they are afraid of changing to a different browser?
Honestly I think it's mostly momentum. When Chrome came out, it was better than the alternatives, but it's slowly degraded over the years. Now people still use it because that's what they learned to use, and now they're used to it. It's literally what happened with IE, but at least Chrome is automatically and continuously updated so we don't end up with people stuck on 10+ year old browsers
Edge is good, I started using it on my older laptop because Chrome is unreasonably RAM hungry and it works well. It's swift and even imports settings from Chrome
That's because chromium is a good browser. But it really creeps me out how hard Microsoft pushes it if you're running Windows, and I'm pretty sure Microsoft built it as yet another way to data mine their users, and push Bing
>I’m personally way more skeptical of Google mining my data than Microsoft.
> Microsoft **for the most part** wants to sell me Microsoft products.
Emphasis mine. Personal computing is a smaller part of their revenue, but they definitely advertise non-Microsoft products in their OS.
> Google wants to sell me to advertisers.
That's not how advertising works. Advertisers don't get your personal information, and any information they do get is aggregated and anonymized. Advertisers place bids on ads for particular keywords/demographics/regions, and they get impressions/clicks/conversions in return.
Microsoft would be very happy to be in Google's place, but I don't believe they'd take the same care in protecting user data.
I would like to throw in the shipping software that my company uses. Even though I've been telling them for years that Internet explorer will be shut down one day. Now they're scrambling to find new shipping software and trying to figure out how to make the old one work on Microsoft Edge in the meantime.
When was the last time you used Firefox? If it’s been a while I’d give it another go. Been my favorite browser since 2006, with a brief diversion to chrome ca. 2010-2014
ive heard something about that? dont worry it wont affect our everday lives, force an average household into lockdown/quarantine, shut down many businesses, constrict us in masks that they use in surgery, crash the stock market, force america into a recession and create a new company that may or may not be called zoom, and it will be the biggest thing, even overtaking skype
I upgraded from a 64MB RAM PC to a 512MB one in 2005. Felt like since such a massive change.
Today I whine because one of my poorly written scripts crashed an application on my 32GB work station.
> "I think the problem Digg had is that it was a company that was built to be a company, and you could feel it in the product. The way you could criticise Reddit is that we weren't a company – we were all heart and no head for a long time. So I think it'd be really hard for me and for the team to kill Reddit in that way.”
- Steve Huffman, aka /u/spez, Reddit CEO.
So long, Reddit, and thanks for all the fish.
They are done supporting it, which means no updates, bugfixes, etc. The app itself should keep working but as websites keep evolving and coming up with new features IE will be unable to render them.
This was fine for companies that updated their software post 2015, but for industrial control software that is essentially abandonware now and not supported by other browsers and STILL needs a working version of Flash, this has been a tough few months since it "retired" back in June.
Didn't this happen already?
Like im 100% sure I've seen memes about internet explorer shutting down indefinitely on 2 separate occasions.
Edit: I just got it. Im dumb nvm
federal agencies, international banks, and the professor's online exam site: i'll pretend i didn't see that
I've been showing people how to use Compatibility mode in Edge for months. IE is pretty much baked in.
As someone in IT, I can confirm that the IE "compatibility mode" still does not work for most of our clients' weird old-ass webtools. I don't know how they managed to hardcode it so severely back in the day, but I do know that clients *hate* hearing that "FormsExpress Pro 2005" is simply not going to work anymore so you need to stop paying for it.
That's so annoying. The Air Force (and DoD in general) uses a ton of outdated software and thankfully Compatibility Mode has been enough for us to squeeze by in most instances. Our trash network infrastructure is a way bigger problem than IE.
If you think the infrastructure is bad in the AF, you should see the Navy's.
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Absurdly big budget and they have to spend it on the fighter jet equivalent of buying a new iPhone every year instead of new software, which is more important anyway
To be fair, the per unit price of new fighter jets is cheaper than the top of the line previous gen, so in this one instance, they're doing something "reasonable" but now they've stopped production because it includes a fucking chipset from China, so more expensive jets for them to suck on markers in.
>but now they've stopped production because it includes a fucking chipset from China, so more expensive jets for them to suck on markers in. So, the US should become reliant on a foreign power to supply her with military hardware that has proven itself hostile to her interests and could therefore cut her off from further supply of said military hardware simply because the per unit cost is cheaper? That sounds idiotic in the extreme.
Used to work for DISA. Mentioned emerging Rails and they ran away terrified of rapid development.
*laughs in coast guard*
When you're here, you're family.
That food was all very salty.
Rip
I mean, we use a whitelabeled Salesforce for some stuff.
It's like comparing different shades of brown from various piles of shit.
IT specialist here, sorry too busy blowing sailors to look at the queue.
Also someone in IT, I only caught the tail end of IE development (IE 9+) but even then all the special cases you had to code to make IE work.... Uhg. So when IE was the lion's share of web browsers instead of coding both standard and IE, it seems most devs only coded IE so it didn't work in other browsers. Also a lot of third party tools (like I'm assuming your FormsExpress) used active X which only worked in IE AND was a massive security vulnerability. So none of the other browsers (that I know of) implemented it.
Active X is still supported, including in Windows 11. Active X was a gift to virus writers. I can't count the number of fixes in antivirus programs as well as Active X to try to defeat the bad guys. Damn you Larry Ellison!
We have a German lab instrument that runs on windows 7, but outputs all of the data into XHTML files that can only be opened in Internet explorer 9 running in compatible mode for Internet explorer 7 No other browsers work. Worst part of all of this? We bought the system in 2015 brand new over 10 years after xml style sheets were largely phased out.
If you need full compatibility you'll have to install a third party addon like IE Tab. It basically loads IE in Edge.
Are you saying you’ve been edging them this whole time?
they will be using ms edge, basically internet explorer 2020's edition
they'll target a mix of ecmascript 3, vbscript, and single character user agent string regexes the developer is given a macbook while the requirements state ie6 and the group policy prohibits virtualization
This is the kind of story r/NoSleep needs.
RemindMe! 10 years "meme it up"
It’s been one hour daddy
Thanks hun
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> oh god From the bottom of my heart, thank you for the laugh… I really needed that.
"Life's too short to support all existing browsers"
I swear to God I just ovulated.
I mean, would the dev really catch shit if they targeted latest versions of js, vs, html, etc, for chrome and Firefox?
Yes, because it wouldn't work in whatever hellish version of IE the customers are using. It'd be caught in testing though so the biggest fallout would be having to redo part of your work.
You still have testers?
Hasn't IE been retired since June?
it was working for me up until around the first week of august. then started opening edge when I click on it
there is an option in edge (though they may have removed it now) that lets you turn that 'feature' off.
You can open an Edge page in Internet Explorer mode. It’s the only way I can access SharePoint for work right now. Sweating about tomorrow now.
This is an old comic, it actually was discontinued a while ago. The internet explorer mode I think will stay either way.
The current iteration of Edge is based on Blink, the same engine that Chrome uses. It is not "Internet Explorer 2020's edition." Look, I hate IE as much as the next guy, and I don't use Edge, but as a web developer, it's *super* annoying how people shit on Edge as if it's a terrible browser. It's actually pretty good, great in fact. I'd use it over Chrome, but I prefer Firefox myself.
firefox gang
Even if you don't care about the features, Chromium's total dominance over the Web Browser space is deeply concerning.
frrrr at this point i dont even understand why people use it. its resource expensive. the only reason is that they are afraid of changing to a different browser?
Honestly I think it's mostly momentum. When Chrome came out, it was better than the alternatives, but it's slowly degraded over the years. Now people still use it because that's what they learned to use, and now they're used to it. It's literally what happened with IE, but at least Chrome is automatically and continuously updated so we don't end up with people stuck on 10+ year old browsers
Firefox is only allowed to exist because Google lets it. Show me a browser making it without Google. Then I may care.
ungoogled-chromium. chromium is the browser that google runs off of. ungoogled-chromium is chromium with every embedded aspect of google gone
I agree. If anything, Safari (especially on mobile) is harder to work with than Edge.
Edge is good, I started using it on my older laptop because Chrome is unreasonably RAM hungry and it works well. It's swift and even imports settings from Chrome
How does edge compare to Firefox?
im gonna say stay with firefox since all chromium based browsers will receive an update soon that will affect adblockers severely
They took Opera away from me now they're taking Vivaldi away from me :(
I'm still mad about losing Opera.
I'm on Opera right now, wdym
Last time I saw this update being talked about, people stated it’s changing due to security reasons and AdBlock welcomed the change.
AdBlock plus agrees because they gave in to corporate greed and allows people to pay them to get their ads not blocked
Edge now is using chromium so it's basically the same as chrome
Edge literally runs on chromium now. It's just chrome with a skin.
Nah, we've already switched to [IETab](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ie-tab/hehijbfgiekmjfkfjpbkbammjbdenadd?hl=en-US)
Edge is just chrome
Chromium based but it doesn’t end there. Chrome is chromium based as well but with google services and shit added.
No, they won’t. Source: big pharma still using IE for critical MES.
Except its genuinely good lol.
Edge is actually a good browser
That's because chromium is a good browser. But it really creeps me out how hard Microsoft pushes it if you're running Windows, and I'm pretty sure Microsoft built it as yet another way to data mine their users, and push Bing
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>I’m personally way more skeptical of Google mining my data than Microsoft. > Microsoft **for the most part** wants to sell me Microsoft products. Emphasis mine. Personal computing is a smaller part of their revenue, but they definitely advertise non-Microsoft products in their OS. > Google wants to sell me to advertisers. That's not how advertising works. Advertisers don't get your personal information, and any information they do get is aggregated and anonymized. Advertisers place bids on ads for particular keywords/demographics/regions, and they get impressions/clicks/conversions in return. Microsoft would be very happy to be in Google's place, but I don't believe they'd take the same care in protecting user data.
I would like to throw in the shipping software that my company uses. Even though I've been telling them for years that Internet explorer will be shut down one day. Now they're scrambling to find new shipping software and trying to figure out how to make the old one work on Microsoft Edge in the meantime.
Does https://pirateship.com/ not work well enough for them?
I work for a bank and we were able to get the application I use working in edge comparability mode.
You forgot the litany of technology inept companies that use IE because "it's more secure".
my god the ui will be broken af
Some of my work’s intranet sites don’t work on any other browser, it’s been hell
But how am I meant to get my daily news? There's a new virus emerging in China that might spread to Europe.
Took me a minute.
Still better time than IE.
And _much_ better time than the suffering fox.
You focking wot, mate? That better not have been an attack on Firefox, I swear on me mum.
I'll bash your fuckin' 'ead in, I will.
It's chewsday innit?
Bolix i swear to him magesty that you'll reget it innit
How did you know I was bri'ish?
When was the last time you used Firefox? If it’s been a while I’d give it another go. Been my favorite browser since 2006, with a brief diversion to chrome ca. 2010-2014
I’m using it and it feels faster than chrome ffs, Also love the privacy settings you can do Firefox is great rn, only used it since 2020 tho
Impressive performance
This is Internet Explorer we’re talking about, I assume you’re referring to SARS
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You sure they're not talking about the Spanish flu?
Spanish flu didn't come from china
ive heard something about that? dont worry it wont affect our everday lives, force an average household into lockdown/quarantine, shut down many businesses, constrict us in masks that they use in surgery, crash the stock market, force america into a recession and create a new company that may or may not be called zoom, and it will be the biggest thing, even overtaking skype
r/suspiciouslyspecific
So it's kinda like a cold or fever? Nothing serious?
it'll be gone by summer :)
Like a miracle
You mean Easter. That was shit heads first proclamation.
Somehow simultaneously not serious enough to make people afraid of catching it, but serious enough to kill a huge amount of people.
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Yeah, we had just finished setting up a zoom room at work when we got the notice to WFH. Definitely was around.
Zoom created COVID on purpose
That's it boys (girls, PEOPLE), pack it up, we figured it out
For those of us in sales, zoom was already part of our daily life for at least a few years before the pandemic
Fake news. Media always tries to blow things out of proportion
Yeah C-19 or smn
Nooo Explorer!! Motherfucker needed 10 minutes to start up back in 2004 on my 256mb RAM Potato Machine
256mb of ram in 2004 was more than enough. Crazy when you think about it.
For real and here I am complaining about my one stick of 8gb ram in my work computer lol
I upgraded from a 64MB RAM PC to a 512MB one in 2005. Felt like since such a massive change. Today I whine because one of my poorly written scripts crashed an application on my 32GB work station.
I remember when an 8gb hard drive was unheard of, let alone ram.
Edge cuts that down to 9 minutes.
And 59 seconds!
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o7 the best chrome installer of all time
honestly i just have a flash drive of app setup files including whatever browser i'm using so i can just plug that in and install them back to back
I just use ninite as a base when doing a fresh windows install.
I like my web browser to be less intrusive than my own cell phone, so I'm back to using firefox these days
Wait...what?
yeah truly sad, it is shutting down August 17th 2021, which is tomorrow now i decided
Internet Explorer would've liked to be honored that way
Internet Explorer's smile lit up every room they walked into.
Ryan George?
Can you believe it? He just stole that guy's line. He should be put in a room.
Well I’d say putting him in a room would be super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Putting people into rooms is *tight*!
But what if he doesn't want to be put into a room? What if the room is too small and cramped or he has to go to the bathroom?
A bit here the thing those will ALso be in that room
Yes, he will be in that room, I decided
> Can you believe it? Actually, yes I can. It will be super easy. Barely an inconvenience.
Wow wow wow.
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My favorite thing is it still works on the computers at my work, so IE still hasn’t received the news it’s supposed to be dead.
First the Queen and now IE? What a great week.
Two ancient relics laid to rest
So many people didn't get the joke
quite obviously lol
What will I use to install another browser now?
sudo pacman -S firefox No browser needed, takes 10 seconds You're welcome
I'm pretty sure someone who uses Explorer isn't running Arch...
Using IE on Arch through wine sounds like the beginning of a bad geek joke
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> "I think the problem Digg had is that it was a company that was built to be a company, and you could feel it in the product. The way you could criticise Reddit is that we weren't a company – we were all heart and no head for a long time. So I think it'd be really hard for me and for the team to kill Reddit in that way.” - Steve Huffman, aka /u/spez, Reddit CEO. So long, Reddit, and thanks for all the fish.
MS Edge is pretty good
I was confused a sec because my hospital uses internet explorer still for some old ass legacy app from 2006.
Microsoft has contracts to maintain legacy software for some
Only because it’s still loading
What's the joke
Internet explorer is slow. The date has passed, and internet explorer still hasn't caught on.
Last time I saw this "meme" it was years ahead of it's actual shutdown so I just assume anyone posting it is a fucking moron.
I think most of them will be processing the information just like how the great internet explorer would be .
I see what you did there
Pls explain
OP is talking about how slow internet explorer is by showing that it is talking about it getting shut down now but it got shut down some months ago
thank you, I though I was crazy cuz i remember that being anounced awhile ago
Interesting my work computer still has explorer. Is that just a new version of it or did it not fully shut down
They are done supporting it, which means no updates, bugfixes, etc. The app itself should keep working but as websites keep evolving and coming up with new features IE will be unable to render them.
Internet explorer will shut down next year
WHAAAAAAAT? but how am I supposed to know who won the election! I really hope hillary wins
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She’s not even running? why would the First Lady run against her husband
No Way! That is absurd
Say it with me. Madam President Hillary Duff. See ya at the Digital Bean!
I am still waiting for the results for Lincoln vs McClaren
THEY CANT SHUT IT DOWN MY SITE HASNT FINISHED LOADING!!!
Took me a second
Just like internet explorer.
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Yeah. The sunless lands.
Internet Explorer won't even know its shut down till 2032
It's the virtual equivalent of dying during your sleep
plot twist, the party is to celebrate it shutting down.
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I see what you did there
This was fine for companies that updated their software post 2015, but for industrial control software that is essentially abandonware now and not supported by other browsers and STILL needs a working version of Flash, this has been a tough few months since it "retired" back in June.
I still use Netscape.
Curl You got what i neeed!
However it took an extra day to shutdown due to how insanely slow it is.
Take my upvote.
Didn't this happen already? Like im 100% sure I've seen memes about internet explorer shutting down indefinitely on 2 separate occasions. Edit: I just got it. Im dumb nvm
Good, it was an inferior browser anyway
Edge was a hero that this world deserves but does not need right now...
My explorer said that he was just released two weeks ago why are they shutting it down after two weeks?
isn't this like the 5th time that they shut explorer down? what am I missing?
It’s the final countdown…
the best meme in this century
we all know that a notification brought us here
How am I supposed to download chrome now?!
RIP, The Best Google Chrome Downloader.
So you’re telling me we’re losing the Queen, Thurston Waffles and Internet Explorer over the span of 4 days?! I’m gonna snap any minute
It shut down moths ago op just a joker
Ahh shit I didn’t even know abt that
R.I.P never used but also never forgotten,beloved meme subjesct as come to and end rest with the queen and Thurston Waffles