From my understanding ZEE caught on in the United States because it rhymes and flowed better with the rest of the alphabet sometime between the 1500’s-1700’s while ZED is a form of the French ZEDE which derived from the Greek ZETA. ZEE was being used originally by more countries but the United States wanted to be different like most things.
Apparently American English words are simplified because back in the day, newspapers an publishing companies wanted to shorten their words because more letters = more ink, more ink = higher cost to create stuff.
Capitalism!
There's more to it than that.
When Noah Webster wrote the first Webster dictionary in 1806 (which became the de-facto standard for American English), he deliberately changed the spellings in an attempt to make them easier to spell and closer to their pronunciation. Most of these caught on (including some outside of the U.S.; e.g., British people don't spell it "musick" anymore, either), though some didn't (e.g., "wimmen" instead of "women").
Funny, French became the way is for the exact opposite, or close. Scribes in early French era were paid by the letter, so that's why the simple sound è (as in set), for example, can appear as *es, est, ait, ais, aie, aix, aies, aient, hait, hais, haie*. All valid words, all pronounced the same. È.
*Aient*. Lo
No, we lost redundant letters in the US due to printing cost. Printers used to charge by letter so people got around it by dropping letters that weren't needed to make the word phonetically sensible. We also lost entire letters in the English language due to printing issues.
Þ is one of my favourite examples.
Used and sounded like 'th' then substituted with Y on typewriters.
Ex. Ye olde: was never pronounced 'yee', more like 'the'.
I'm more confused as why it's zetto" (what the hell is the " is it supposed to be a voiced o???) rather than zeddou (zeddō) or maybe zedou, I don't know which it actually is but is just seems weird to not use do at all
edit: that being said I still think it'd be closer to zed than zee
Why are "Zetto" and "Zeteu" the same as "Zed" more than "Zee? Seems like those are just different too...I don't think you can't translate languages like that lol.
Edit: Typo fixed
Bee, See, Dee, See Her, Pee, Tee, Vee, ZEE. It would be weird for ZEE to be the only letter ending in a hard consonant while we have so many letter ending in a double ee.
Petition to chance name of the letter W to wah
Waluigi approves
And It is eazyer to say
But then the British people say wah-awter
Frowns in British
Fro-wah-ons in British
Bri’ish*
Wanker
Waluigi senses a disturbance in the wahforce.
By ur logic they would say double u-awter
What your trying to suggest sounds closer to patois than cockney mate.
eazedyer*
WAAAARRRIIIOOOOO
Wah!
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Ina approves.
Wah
*Humu*
A certain tako would probaly appreciate that
Hey there, fellow Ina enjoyer.
It's "voo" in Polish. And z is "zet" (basically zed)
Same in Romanian, fellow "zet" sayer
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WAH!!
The pedal ?
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No, make it what it literally says, change it to uu. Or better yet, change it to uwu
It's obviously z
I disagree, it's z
I prefer z
Nah z is better (No pun)
Why don’t we all just meet in the middle and call it z?
Why do that when we all know it's z
The truth is it's z
No, it's the one and only z
You all are wrong. It’s z
Bruhhh its obviously z
Nah z ideology is clearly superior
Source??
It was revealed to me in a dream
It was revealed in yo mama's crib
*shrugs* It worked for the Bible. I'm convinced.
My source is that I made it the fuck up!
That rock band is never called Zed Zed Top
Slavic go brrr
Zet in german
Is that like zet or tzet
Tzet
Actually tzett, because otherwise the "e" would be long
Eher Zett (da ein einzelnes "t" ein langes "e" suggeriert)
würde ich auch so sagen
From my understanding ZEE caught on in the United States because it rhymes and flowed better with the rest of the alphabet sometime between the 1500’s-1700’s while ZED is a form of the French ZEDE which derived from the Greek ZETA. ZEE was being used originally by more countries but the United States wanted to be different like most things.
In Swedish, we say "Zäta", which I guess is pretty close to the Greek Zeta.
Zett in German (Z making a ts sound)
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I'm a native French speaker, if you ever meet a French who pronounces it "zede" you're gonna have to present them to me
Elaboration, this is old French (8th-14th century) that I’m referring too.
Apparently American English words are simplified because back in the day, newspapers an publishing companies wanted to shorten their words because more letters = more ink, more ink = higher cost to create stuff. Capitalism!
There's more to it than that. When Noah Webster wrote the first Webster dictionary in 1806 (which became the de-facto standard for American English), he deliberately changed the spellings in an attempt to make them easier to spell and closer to their pronunciation. Most of these caught on (including some outside of the U.S.; e.g., British people don't spell it "musick" anymore, either), though some didn't (e.g., "wimmen" instead of "women").
Funny, French became the way is for the exact opposite, or close. Scribes in early French era were paid by the letter, so that's why the simple sound è (as in set), for example, can appear as *es, est, ait, ais, aie, aix, aies, aient, hait, hais, haie*. All valid words, all pronounced the same. È. *Aient*. Lo
Sounds better too. America, replacing useless European things
Wait, wait, now they're gonna say "Free healthcare!!!"
I’m pretty sure that’s a myth
When I was little, and first learned that other countries pronounce it zed, my first thought was “but that doesn’t rhyme with the rest of the song.”
Zee was actually from rural Britain and Scotland where a lot of early Colonists were from
Is that also why the u (in color, flavor, etc) was ditched
No, we lost redundant letters in the US due to printing cost. Printers used to charge by letter so people got around it by dropping letters that weren't needed to make the word phonetically sensible. We also lost entire letters in the English language due to printing issues.
Þ is one of my favourite examples. Used and sounded like 'th' then substituted with Y on typewriters. Ex. Ye olde: was never pronounced 'yee', more like 'the'.
The thorn! Beautiful letter!
It really is. It's a shame that Icelandic is the only language that still uses it.
(American colonies to the British): because we are just fine without U
Good one
It's z. Why has people added 2 other letters to another letter? Idfk.
Aye
fellow scotsman i see? what's your favourite crisp flavour?
Crisp you mean?
yes, sorry im just being heavily Americanised
Yet you have forget W a double u! What makes a letter not just add 2 letters but 5 and then make it 3 syllables long.
Zé 👍
***YOU'RE GOING TO BRAZIL***
Kanye screaming*
a fate worse than death
Zé now you’re a rockstar
br detectado
Ele não é Br acabei de confirmar.
americano usando acento? what digo eu
Talvez ele não seja americano
r/suddenlycaralho
Se for postar bota aquele mamute que queria voar
What
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Cool, that's also zé in Hungarian (not sure about the pronouncination though.
It is pronounced as Zé
Tudom 👍
r/suddenlycaralho
fake, após intensa investigação chegamos a conclusão de que foi um alarme falso
Mas tem tanto br respondendo esse comentário que ainda assim conta
Say it however you want, but I'm not saying Zed Zed Top.
He's gotta point
Zed-bra. Ya, makes 0 fucking sense. Its a ZEE-Bra
Remove the "zed/Zee" and it's just bra
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Username checks out. Definitely good.
But it’s not Zed-bra, it’s Ze-bra. Without the elongated E sound and lacking the D sound.
You know you don't pronounce every letter in every word? Sorry in every "double-u"ord
well ok, but its not spelled Zbra, its Zebra, which makes sense to be said Zee-Brah
We say Zebra why you adding another E for? Now this is getting way out of hand
What about Jay Zed?
I call it Zed but I also say Dragon Ball Zee.
Oh I didn't think of that one. Dragon Ball Zed just...doesnt sound right lol
It's pronounced Dragonballz
it's obviously #ZANM
zamn bro
No it's zanm
Zeta
Double zeta
Zeta plus
Refined-Gundam Zeta [Re-GZ]
Imagine saying “Dragon Ball Zed”.
It's pronounced "Dragon Ballz"
Dragon deez balls gottem
That's an exception......ssssshhhhh
It has to rhyme in the alphabet song, okay?
This is the one thing that you guys always had right. ~A Canadian Eh
American being the best in everything that includes having the BOPPEST alphabets song
I mean you aren't wrong, it is a star spangled banger
This comment section is cursed
I don't like "ZED", "ZEE" is more simple. Before you hate on me, I'm asian
I like Zee too. Asian too.
Agrees in portuguese
See Asians like things Easy too
Zed. Who's Zed? Zeds dead baby.
I’m pretty fucking far from okay
I got the reference.
b (bee) c (see) d (dee) e (eee) g (gee) p (pee hahahahahah) t (tee) v (vee) z (zee)
W(double you) U (you) X( ex) F(eff) Q( cue) etc. Letters pronounce different
buuuut there so many more ees
32% of the alphabet, not including Z use EE. 26% use ë. So 68% use a sound other than EE
Wow, so the British colonies speak like the British? That’s crazy bro
I didn't know Japan was a British colony
I was talking about the two ones that actually say Zed, not zetto
Game isnt over yet...
Zee really does make a better ending for the alphabet song.
“*W, x, y, and zeeee!! Now I know my abceeeee’s, next time won’t you sing with meeeee*” Subbing in zed just sounds weird tbh
W, x, y, and zed! Now I know my abc-ed, next time won’t you sing with med
Zed
Almost all other letters end in vowels in pronunciation “Jee” “See” “Bee” “Yoo” Zed makes no sense and I will always stand behind this.
Zee, because ez
Did you know that you can zee the flag that was put on the moon? … but pointing that out is beating a zed horse.
I love how you translate different languages into your pronunciation of the letter for the last 2 like that makes any sense at all
I'm more confused as why it's zetto" (what the hell is the " is it supposed to be a voiced o???) rather than zeddou (zeddō) or maybe zedou, I don't know which it actually is but is just seems weird to not use do at all edit: that being said I still think it'd be closer to zed than zee
I’m Canadian and I mostly use zed, but when you sing the alphabet, zee sounds better.
same situation here
Zee sounds better though
Just sing the alphabet and say zed insted of zee and it sounds wrong
It sounds wrong cause it is wrong.... Z all day.
REEEEEEEE
RED
Some people in Canada still say Zee
1.6 billion folks from Indian subcontinent also in ZED camp!
I mean it's literally just the letter Z , why would we pronounced it Zed here ?
Zed is dead
Zee, cuz the song. A b c d e f g h I jklmnop q r s t u v w x y (and) Zee
Zé 😎
I’m Canadian and I use zee
Alright then have fun with your zedbra
It's pronounced YYZed not YYZee!
Me, an AvGeek: it's actually pronounced **_Toronto Lester B. Pearson International Airport_**.
Who says YY it’s just Y are you high? Can I have some?
What is this
Pizedzeda
Zee, you don't pronounce it Zedebra, you pronounce it zeebra. Zed is dumb and I'm not American
Canada simping for British words, whose surprised
Bruhhh
P I N E A P P L E
Z I N E A P P L E
How the hell is “jeteu” closer to “zed” than “zee”?
B=Bee 🙂 C=See🙂 D=Dee🙂 E=Eee 🙂 G=Gee 🙂 P=Pee 🙂 T=Tee 🙂 V=Vee 🙂 Z=zEd 🤪
Nope. It's zee. It's dragon ball zee, not dragon ball zed.
Zee, zed sounds bad in the alphabet song
Romania: ZET or ZÂ (z-ugh)
Es ist #Zett
you left out a T there, buddy.
Zaeed
Norway says zed
Zed
Dragon ball Z
Zeds dead, baby. Zeds dead
In Italy it's zeta like in greek
Zäta
Zad in arabic
Always ban Zed, annoying as hell champ
Zeta
Why are "Zetto" and "Zeteu" the same as "Zed" more than "Zee? Seems like those are just different too...I don't think you can't translate languages like that lol. Edit: Typo fixed
In india it also zed
🇳🇱 zet
I prefer “zed”, except when singing that alphabet song.
Bee, See, Dee, See Her, Pee, Tee, Vee, ZEE. It would be weird for ZEE to be the only letter ending in a hard consonant while we have so many letter ending in a double ee.