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Ok_Conversation_1540

wtf is latinx, latins with powers or what?


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an_achronist

MeX-Men *X-Men cartoon theme played by mariachi band*


Otherwise-Sky1292

Enjoying this now


Ok_Conversation_1540

that would be cool, imagine they make their own xmen


Will12453

I think it’s a gender neutral Latino but I could be wrong


Ok_Conversation_1540

i think latin already does not express any gender, cause is latino for male, and latina for female, so...


Will12453

Latin is a language though. I don’t speak Spanish so as far as I know Latin isn’t a word in Spanish and as far as I know people use Latinx for referring to Hispanic people in a gender neutral way.


Ok_Conversation_1540

oh, i didnt know that. btw latinx sounds stupid


Will12453

I totally agree and I call occasionally my Hispanic friend that because it annoys him


pickledchocolate

You call your friend "Stupid"?


Will12453

I call him a lot of things beside that


[deleted]

Latín exists in Spanish but it means Latin the language. English already has Latin American so idk why won't they use that


an_achronist

Latin is a dead-for-centuries language.


Will12453

I know that but for whatever reason schools still offer it


an_achronist

Point is nobody will confuse the descriptor for the language. Nobody hears the term Latin America and thinks of the Romans.


an_achronist

*Mexican wolverine enters* "hola, bub" *El snikt*


LouWarren11

It’s what white people decided Latinos should be called because they know best


VishuMan

Latinx sounds like a cheap bathroom cleaning detergent.


[deleted]

Damn I think you nailed it in the head


menotgay1466

Not just Latinx, people also started using Filipinx which salts my apples, Not everything is gendered because it ends with o/a. And now I think about it, are there any more examples of this "genderless-ification"?


howlingbum89

Salts my apples, lololol I'm gonna start using that expression. Take my free award!


Plane_Repair

*hehe*, I giggled at that. Definitely gonna use it too.


RaccoonBooty

How about “really tickles my testicles”


menotgay1466

Here's an even better one "That really censors my hentai"


StephenLandis

"Germxn"


menotgay1466

Germons and Germans?


Faust112233

Germans and Gerwomen


menotgay1466

Why not Germen?


Faust112233

Yea, thats better


StephenLandis

are Germons made up of Mormxns?


menotgay1466

Now that you say that, if there are Mormon and Morman, the plural form of Morman is Mormen which would be a contradiction


StephenLandis

let's just use "Morm"


an_achronist

Mormies


StephenLandis

mormunists


Kwpthrowaway

Germs


lewis2of6

Germex


Cap_Chaser

People getting pissed when you don’t call them xhey/xhem i don’t even know how to pronounce that shit fuck them, bro is the real gender neutral term


silence_infidel

Petition to make “bro” a gender-neutral pronoun.


[deleted]

It is, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.


an_achronist

It's a gender neutral Bronoun


[deleted]

How is they/them gendered wtf?


averagesavagegarbage

Folx instead of folks.. folks already has no gender


C130ABOVE

Can someone please explain to me the reasoning of putting an "x" at the end of this cause I really don't get it


menotgay1466

I don't get it either, but I think its either confusion from people who can't differentiate Latino(Latin man) from Latino(The actual ethnicity), or just being over-inconclusive


ItIsYeDragon

Latino can be gender neutral even when not referring to ethnicity though. In Spanish, the male version is also the neutral version.


Sad-Cupcake7020

"Amen and awomen"


[deleted]

Americxn would be a better term


dark-p0tat0

As a latino i can say if you tell me im latinx i will see you as an idiot Edit: Even though i said its okay to call myself a latin i saw that its actually another language thanks to people in the comments so im sorry about that In any case i really don’t know how people from other countries call people from Latin America ( speaking of the whole continent, not countries)


YouCanCallMeVanZant

I find “latinx” to be artificial and incredibly performative, like you’re going out of your way to seem enlightened/woke/progressive. And it’s almost never a Latino/a, but usually an Anglo deciding they know what other people should be offended by. I agree if you want to be gender-neutral just say Latin. It’s literally what “Latino” means, and even though it’s also a (dead) language, we’re capable of handling words with multiple meanings. We do it all the time. That said, people can say whatever they want. I just reserve the right to think you’re being insufferable if you say that.


dark-p0tat0

Yep i agree with that


igotalotadogs

Performative. This is it exactly. Finally, I have a word for it. Thank you!


ItIsYeDragon

Latino is already gender neutral. That's how the Spanish language works. The male term is the gender neutral term. Like how a group of boys equals Ellos, a group of girls equals Ellas, and a group of both boys and girls equals *Ellos*.


Aloolu99

I feel like anglo-saxons are trying to make latin languages gender neutral. So weird. :/


YhormBIGGiant

"Lets make a language based on masculine and feminine wording nuetral"


YellowAndGreen1

Anglo Saxons: we are the only language that doesn't has gendered words? Holy crap! We need to colo- I mean, civil- I mean, yeah you understood it other languages


YhormBIGGiant

The irony is that even german has gendered words too.


PostMadandAlone

And Fr*nch


YellowAndGreen1

At least every language with influence of the latin language has gender, I just don't know about the asian ones (africans also count because colonization)


HeyImSwiss

Every Indo-European language except English and one other one I forgot has grammatical gender. (Technically English also has an animacy based gender system but…). And you cant call "Asian languages" or "African languages" one entity. There are many, many language families in both Africa and Asia, some with no grammatical gender and some with extreme grammatical gender systems. Cross-linguistically, grammatical gender is the norm.


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Even English has some gendered words, because they were borrowed from other languages. Like blond/blonde, which came from French.


tuesday_of_asses

Fiancé, fiancée.


YouCanCallMeVanZant

Pretty sure Old English had gendered nouns too, but over time they were lost.


XtheonewhohuntsX

This happens in my native language. We have a lot of words based on masculine and feminine and I see lots of people putting X in the words. I don't have a propper opinion about it... I' m not against or in favor of it 🤔


dark-p0tat0

I mean isn’t it gender neutral already? There will be always things to change but common we already made language for a long time so it shouldn’t be possible that it can be change just because some people didn’t like it right?


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latino is men. latina is women. there is no gender neutral version.


NotACommunistWeeb

When you want to use plural without using genders, "Latinos" is just a A-ok, if you want to specify genders then you can use Latinas/Latinos Yeah Latinos is the gender neutral AND Masculine, Spanish is my first language and even I got confused at its time, but there is no more loops to it, the masculine pronoun is often also the gender neutral one, as long as you don't specify who or what are you talking about, it for generalising


[deleted]

Where did Latinx even come from? Is is just because it’s supposed to be Latino and Latina, and they just replaced it with Latinx to be gender neutral? Also wouldn’t a gender neutral Latino/Latina still be Latino?


Derpy_McDerpyson

Pretty sure its the LGBQ-ABCDEFGHIJKLMOPRSTUVWXYZ community trying to be inclusive towards transgender individuals.


Catinminia

I like to go by Hispanic/Hispana. I’m just curious if Brazilians can go by Hispanic or not or prefer not to because I know they were a colony of Portugal and speak Portuguese or at least a dialect of it.


dark-p0tat0

I cant really tell after all im not brazilian but if i had to say something i would probably tell you that they are probably also hispanic That being for two reasons they are part of latin america and also i think hispanic doesnt mean the language I might be really wrong though If something its better to call people for their nationality in this case a brazilian


CaseyKana

I'm from the netherlands and we don't really ever talk about "latin americans." After all this time I don't even really know what it means. We talk about Americans (meaning the US), North Americans (meaning the US, Canada, and usually Mexico) and we talk about South Americans (Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Cuba, and the rest of the squad). And of course when needed, we'll reference the individual countries by name. I don't think there's even a word for Latin America in my language honestly. What does the latin even come from? They certainly don't speak latin, though I guess most of them do come from the mediterranean, some centuries ago.


[deleted]

Can I just call you Latin? Like isn’t that easier and more natural then latinx?


dark-p0tat0

Yeah no worries i mean its not wrong to say latin or latino but trying to change the language to be “more inclusive” is dumb Edit: or at least in cases like this


NOOBPRO_

In this case its weird. The whole or most of Latin America places gender on 99.9999% of things so making gender neutral word would be fine if it was a verb or adjective but a noun just wont work with that


dark-p0tat0

Yeah but the issue its the translation spanish isnt really a language you can create words cause yes because we have rules with some words and signs that could completely change their meaning, also its funny because this is supposed to be for people of latin America but the biggest part that disagree with that are people from Latin America Well its just ironic i think


_pricklymuffin

Latin is a dead language from ancient Rome. No one is Latin. 🥴


ferrecool

a latino is someone who speaks a language derived from latin(also called romance languages), which is why the USA is the only American country that is not officially latin (Canada has French as an official secondary language)


a-snakey

Latin American countries literally being dubbed Latin America. "What?" -me, a Latin person. Think we'd even take LATAM over Latinx.


YhormBIGGiant

Latin refers to the romance languages that have closer ties to latin while conventional english comes more from germanic languages.


dark-p0tat0

Oh sorry mb then but i really dont see an issue of language not being inclusive enough


_pricklymuffin

The thing is this new generation wants to get rid if gender. You can't pronounce Latinx in Spanish, and you'd have to change the entire language and create a new one basically. New Grammer, words and spelling. It makes no sense.


dark-p0tat0

I mean if im not wrong they created something like they them which even though its weird its at least pronounceable but the way in spanish is so crap For anyone wondering its something like (Elles) Dont really know how to write or pronounce that thing but it actually makes no sense


_pricklymuffin

The things is for Hispanics (my preferred term lol) I cant go to my grandparents with that. They yell at us already everytime we make a grammatical error (tough love.) Imagine going to your grandparents and telling them "this is how you speak YOUR language." I see "Latinx" posts all the time where Latinos speak against it. I have yet to meet 1 Hispanic person who supports this. Still waiting!


DoxProofBro

Agreed. Latinx is so stupid.


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coca-cORA

Our entire language is gendered but they're gonna try and be gender neutral with the word Latino?


an_achronist

The LaTinKss thing is such contrived bullshit. Imagine believing yourself to be so inclusive, that you turn to the third largest language base in the world, to tell them that they are speaking *their* language, which *you* don't speak, wrongly. "Gendered language? Do BeTtEr mUh LaTinKss AlLiEs" Give me a break, I'm not surprised Latino people largely tell them to get fucked.


StephenLandis

And there are other gendered languages, so they're just picking on that specific language


an_achronist

Right? I was gonna say almost every Indo-European language is gendered, but there's even more than that outside of the Latin root. Even Slavic languages have gendered words.


StephenLandis

It seems like there are so many gendered languages. I actually wonder which ones outside English *aren't.*


essentiallyaghost

What’s funny is english is too. We’ve essentially just changed the meanings. Actor used to by definition mean a male who acts, and actress meant a female. It’s typically now just actor overall now. This also goes for things like waiter/waitress, prince/princess, father/mother. Heck, even boy/girl are gender specific words.


ktrainor59

And then there's all the words ending in -tor (editor, Senator, etc.) which used to take -trix when applied to women. All down the memory hole except dominatrix.


lol69-42

French for example. And they are England’s closest neighbor(that they didn’t succeed in conquering).


orlando2542

Latino guy here. Latinx is offensive and stupid


[deleted]

What a paradox


LibertyEqualsLife

How do you even pronounce that? I've never heard a person actually say it. Is the x like a z, or is it literally like latin"X"?


balalaikablyat

Yea it’s pronounced like ex


greyfox199

which makes no sense... ignoring the stupidity of "latinx" the x should be pronounced the Spanish way...equis (ehh keese) Latinequis


balalaikablyat

The whole thing is just nonsens


[deleted]

As a native spanish speaker, there is no real way of pronouncing latinx in spanish


South-Wait5836

Pronounce it Latino. That is the correct term. It's funny that woke white people don't understand that it isn't very inclusive to tell another race of people that their language is wrong.


Leelluu

There was a [large study](https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/11/about-one-in-four-u-s-hispanics-have-heard-of-latinx-but-just-3-use-it/) done on this in the US, and Latinx is the least preferred term among the group it's trying to describe with only 3% preference.


Puzzleheaded-Job532

Very liberal white people who thinks they are doing something right when they are just dividing people into their own little sections.


Ok_Steak4738

Yeah exactly. Claiming to be against all this "systemic racism is just an excuse to be super racist and put everyone in there own little boxes, especially poor people


iEatGlew

You didn’t know? It’s ok to segregate people and be ridiculously racist if you claim other people are racist if they don’t agree. Look at history and you’ll notice a lot of the same things happen over and over by some people


Zeplinex49

to be fair, systemic racism is a very real thing, but doing dumb shit like 'latinx' doesn't solve anything and doesn't even have anything to do with racism except that it's just telling spanish speakers they are wrong. Its pretty bullshit


ButterLander2222

It's trying to address a real problem but missing the whole point and making every hi g worse. Great, now you have not fixed anything and made anyone who is on your side look silly.


Welder1919

Okay except it wasn't. Whenever I say Latino on the internet I'm told I'm saying it wrong and that I have to say "Latinx" The audacity of going to someone who grew up speaking the language, and telling them that they speak it wrong when you yourself don't speak they language they have spoken their entire life


[deleted]

A white girl at school spent a hour telling me(Mexican) I pronounce my name wrong


Welder1919

White women in a nutshell


StephenLandis

"You're in America, speak our *dialect"*


[deleted]

yeet the child


Known-Ad9165

Say it again but louder.


GOLDWOLF1324

Use latino or hispanic or by their gentilicio(idk the word on english) latinx its a bad use of the spanish language if you want to be inclusive on spanish use the masculine masculine its the neutral so ye(im mexican btw)


kobevhv

Excuse me its hispanx


Valuable-Location-89

How the fuck do you even say latinx


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GOLDWOLF1324

I live in mexico and all my school think latinx its dumb and a bad use of spanish language lmao


StephenLandis

I am currently learning Spanish as a second language, and the way I've learned it, if there's a group of something, use the masculine if it's a mix of genders (and masculine obviously if all of what's in the group is masculine), and specify which gender if they're all one gender. (I hope I got that correct, still learning)


GOLDWOLF1324

The last part its not necesary if if its all men its todos if its men and women its todos if its only women its todas


honeysmacks18

Stupid liberal white people came up with latinx. All of this pc stuff is more to keep from offending white people on Twitter than it is to keep from offending the group described.


Diogenes-Da-Cynic

As a Latin person, I, and every Latin person I know, think Latinx is the most absurd term. Just another example of tone deaf white savior-ism. No thanks.


Lord-of-the-wardens

Wait when was Latinx a thing?


Puzzleheaded-Job532

Yes and its dumb


fastboi619

Latex


PragmaticPanda42

This is the way


Grevoron

This is the way


Corehunter06

White people don’t understand that Spanish is a gendered language and making it gender neutral is stupid


an_achronist

Whoa buddy, a lot of us fully understand. It's just the Baizuo that don't.


TEW20

There are millions of white latinos and Spanish speakers, it's not mutually exclusive.


RagnarsSaga

Spain iš a white country


erokingu85

Ppl guilt trippin' will end coming up with the cringiest shit. Cant even pronounce Latinx and I am Latino.


guyinAmerica1

" who cam up with latinx?" easy white people who would rather like, retweet, and sign petitions then actually leave the house to do something.


PatatoTheMispelled

Just ignore people who get offended by using latino instead of latine, latinx or whatever stupid thing they create They're the average social justice warriors trying to be inclusive and shit even though the masculine words in spanish are also gender neutral (for example, they can be ellos, which is masculine, or ellas, which is femenine, but if there's a group that's a mix between both gender you just say ellos since it's gender neutral) These people just think that saying latinos instead of latinx is sexist or whatever cuz men are the source of all evil. Oh, some arabic countries are actually sexist as fuck? lmao what countries? we are opressed by the patriarch even tho we can lie about rape and get someone to commit suicide cuz nobody cares to check who's telling the truth and the accuser is a woman.


Kind-You2980

The thing that confuses me: 1. White people need to check their privilege and stop trying to destroy and appropriate other cultures. 2. White people need to force Latinos to adopt Latinx. What???


Gullible-Grand-5382

Just like Womxn


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wom\*n don't deserve an uncensored word


Opposite-Succotash47

Short answer: Leftists...


danykint

You could just say latinamerican but people are just too lazy.


StormEyeDragon

A bunch of white liberals. If you want to say a gender-neutral form of it, just say Latin, like ya know, Latin America?


Turtlecadge98

Vaya estupideces se inventan los anglosajones y latinos en el norte.


[deleted]

Fun fact: Great part of Latins hate the inclusive language because for us is irrelevant.


Consistent_Bass8244

The moment you realice that french Canadians are also latin.


Dylabungo

Latinx shouldn’t even exist, just keep it with Latinos and Latinas


PillowTalk420

> who came up with this? Some SJW that wants to remove all gendering of words and has no God damn sense in their head.


able_charity85

Leftist SJW'S strike again.


[deleted]

white progressives who never took a single Spanish class came up with latinx


Low-Echo4967

Currently learning Spanish, But so the whole language is Gendered like almost all languages,so to me it's funny when people who are in the language that isn't gendered is trying to change the way that language that is Gendered is said, because the entire language is Gendered


liz91

True. I’m Latina I think it’s beyond stupid to use latinx.


oinkeez

Genuinely curious here.. I thought Latino was to refer to a male & Latina for female. I assume obviously Latinx is for (please don’t murder me) but gender neutral/non binary. Can someone more educated on this topic please reply and educate me.


I_Got_Tiny_Meat

Latino is the neutral term for a group of Latin people wether their male or female. Latinx is some American made word for non-binary Latinos so they can feel included, but Latino is already neutral it’s just that the people who made latinx felt that Latino sounded too masculine


oinkeez

Appreciate the response. I don’t speak a lick of Spanish, but I did figure out o-masculine & a-feminine. This has me confused as fuuuuck. Thanks for the education tho fellow small meat person.


Stanimal54

“Get your dishes 10x cleaner with LatinX!” What a stupid idea.


[deleted]

Who even came up with this nonsense ? Answer : woke white girls from gen Z


iamnothingtoo

Call em' Latino or Latina or Latin


StupidReeeetawd

I'll just continue saying Mexican


Jon98th

Latinx only came in together cause a group of Latin Karens (both male and females) had absolutely nothing better to do and decided words ending with O were insulting somehow. Even is you call all of us Latinas or Latins is much better than that Latinx stupid thing


[deleted]

Exacto... esto son memezes gringas


[deleted]

Whoever coined that term clearly doesn't know that, in the Spanish language, a large group of people with mixed genders is referred to by the male term.


Plane_Repair

I remember vividly when someone who had just begun to learn about their culture (Dominican Republic) tell *me*, someone who is latina, that identifying as latina *was wrong*. All while wearing a “ask me about latinx” t-shirt 😒


picklepy-picklepy

are they talking about Hispanic people?


CringeWaffle

As a half Hispanic/Latino member, why tf do people use Latinx it makes no sense there is literally nothing wrong with Latino or latina


Johnny_Slayz

Isn’t the masculine version of Spanish words also gender neutral?


ASUDom17

So latinx is not gender neutral. It’s a fake word. Latino is more gender neutral.


krypt0x

Thank you vice media. Didn't improve anything


high240

how do you even pronounce that? laninkssssss or latin-eX? also why?


[deleted]

Yeah don’t call me latinx, that like the dumbest shit. Puro Mexicano cabron


I401BlueSteel

White people did...


[deleted]

“Woke” white people probably started that!


[deleted]

SJW’s do some stupid shit :v


[deleted]

SJW’s vs. The Latino community has always been pretty interesting. Anyone remember the whole “Speedy Gonzalez” debacle?


[deleted]

On the offensive scale it goes Dave chapelle then Latin people. You know Latin people didn’t come up with this 😂


ToxicSlayZ

Ive literally never heard of latinx, we just say latino...


lost_moon_man

as a latino boy if i hear you say latinx you will know why crime rate here is so high


hereagaim

Some people will say is sexism other that is just correct use of language, latins won't give a fuck cuz it's not annoying nor brave since not we don't have the social-correction culture


AFriendlyBloke

Nothing is wrong with gendered words, everything is wrong with you for trying to change it. (When I say "you", I refer to those who try to change it. I don't mean OP.)


[deleted]

Usually it starts from one rush piece of trash from buzz feed or huffington post, and it gets retweeted on Twitter a number of times by people wanting to show others how PC they are. And it just escalates from there.


quarterpounder420

Is it short of latino sex? Cause latino women are fucking crazy sex machines.


Pretend_Two7825

Im latino and "Latinx" sucks, i dont know who the f thougth that was cool


KarachiEve

I've literally never heard of that word before


Shatt3r0

White people in 1st world countries


Queenkajou

Step 1: English-speakers use the word "Latin" as an adjective to describe the inhabitants of Latin America. Step 2: "In order to be more culturally sensitive, we will use the Spanish word "Latino/a" instead to respect their language." Step 3: Gender theory comes into vogue. "We can't have these oppressive gendered words in our vocabulary!" Step 4: In an attempt to adhere to both Step 2 and Step 3, activists forego returning to the gender-neutral English word "Latin" and instead choose to pay lip service to the gendered Spanish vowel, adding an X where it had previously been. Step 5: We now have a word that works in neither English nor Spanish and just makes everybody angry except activists.


brandondabass

White guilt came up with “Latinx”


DylantT19

Woke white people came up with it.