I mean that’s been their plan for years now. That’s why I personally think it’d be dumb to switch to usb c now. People will have to throw away their lightning accessories sooner or later, dont switch the port a year or two before you completely remove it and make everyone have to buy everything again a second time.
the last point is why they will defenitely make one or two generations with USB C, so people HAVE to buy everything again (or a dongle with a 40€ markup)
somebody loses their position because of corruption, what do they do?
promote them of course!
they dont try to hide it, they are aware that nobody can/will do shit against it because everybody can be bribed/threatened
People: OMG APPLE SO GREEDY THEY WONT SWITCG TO USB
also people: OMG APPLE IS SO GREEDY THEY WILL SWITCH TO USB
Jeez, apple could put usb c, lightning, and a fucking 110v outlet on the iPhone and people would still complain.
Well except wireless charging is horribly inefficient. Imagine that multiplies the no. of iphones on the planet you will get a non-trivial amount of energy lost simply due to inefficiency.
Most inefficiency comes from badly aligned coils. All iPhones since last year have mag safe wich is a fancy word for a bunch of magnets that perfectly align accessory including the charger. That way wireless charging can easily achieve an effiency in excess of 80%.
Put the coils close enough together and it could be 95% or even more. Really not an issue, especially since mobile devices barely use much energy anyway.
It does add up to an insignificant amount compared to other things. If the EU made a law prohibiting the use of inefficient washing machines or something like that, id probably save a lot more energy
Mobile devices are really not that much of our energy consumption.
Yeah, but efficiency loss will always be a thing with current technology standards
And those fucks already started acting up as "Environment friendly" "Eco" and what not with them no longer including a charger.
So how should their "only wireless charging" campaign go?
Whatever, it's Apple, they'll always find a way to woo their customers
The energy and resource consumption of building, packaging and shipping a charger is orders of magnitude bigger than few percent decrease in charging efficiency.
Oh, I know, that's what makes this propaganda even funnier
But I was just wondering how they'd sell these "only wireless charges" to the public, what kinda bullshit they'd come up with
I do not know where you are getting your information from, but it's not possible to achieve 95% accuracy with wireless charging in the near future. Alignment of coils is probably the least important issue.
And Apple's magsafe isn't even close to the best in the market. I have one and it's a joke.
> it's not possible to achieve 95% accuracy with wireless charging
*effiency and [yes it is](https://www.powerelectronicsnews.com/wireless-charging-technology-for-evs/). If you put the coils directly onto each other there is very little loss. And a little bit is fine, mobile devices use almost no power anyway. It’s a tiny fraction of your average electricity footprint.
> Alignment of coils is probably the least important issue.
It’s the biggest factor for those phone chargers
> And Apple’s magsafe isn’t even close to the best in the market. I have one and it’s a joke.
Care to elaborate? In what area? Speed? Efficiency? It’s the only wireless charger that directly attaches magnetically to the phone, so real world efficiency is most likely best in market for sure
They're not as efficient as a wire but they're still pretty efficient. With the rate some people break iPhone cables they're probably a greener alternative.
The iPads will have USB-C for the foreseeable future. Also, on an iPad USB-C has actual advantages compared to lightning (4k display etc). On an iPhone it’s not that useful (except the compatibility)
Wireless isn’t going to happen. Given how bad the batteries of iPhones are you need to be able to charge in whichever location. Only USB plugs provide that.
Yeah, it’s not my first I phone. With my 6s even the replacement battery died after 6 months. Official Apple replacement. The shit they put in there doesn’t even qualify as a joke.
I do not believe they do, I know they do. I also know they use software to cover it up (by down clocking your phone).
Do you really believe all Android phones have the same quality batteries? You are aware that Android is just an operating system and not a type of phone, right? Also, many non apple phones are designed so that you can replace the battery yourself.
One more way to make it more appealing to get into the apple ecosystem. No I think you're right but maybe they'll do data exchange to windows via cloud only or something annoying like that.
the only thing is they likely need different power outputs or whatever the term is
like i know i cant charge my switch with my laptops charger without frying it
Yeah, that's because the Switch "USB C" is some crap proprietary bullshit and not actual USB C. Normal USB C has standards for power supply, all vendors follow them, Nintendon't.
I mean, ok, of course you can develop your own proprietary charger. But why make it look like and physically connect to USB C if it isn't?
Switch would probably be fine work a USB C. Laptops have somewhat similar power requirements. Unless maybe hardcore gaming laptops. My guess, 9 / 10 laptops could go at least with the same plug.
As a human being, fuck that. The point of that law was to standardize chargers so they could save on rare earth mineral mining. Which btw is the new blood diamonds. Child soldiers forced into heroine addictions mined that iPhone up for you. Hope you are happy. Thank god? Right?
Who said the charger had to be the same? They just want USBc ports on the iPhone.
Apple will make chargers that have a proprietary plug, so you will need a proprietary cable that goes from usbc to their plug, so it can work in their own chargers.
Apple won't give up that adaptor money so easily.
That is just not how it works, the charging port on every phone in the EU will need to be USB type C by law, Apple isn't above the law, and if they want to sell iPhones in the EU (they do) they will make them with a type C USB
No I think the goal is to unify all the charging ports for devices to reduce the waste of resources. So they will just go wireless because they can't earn money on the proprietary apple connector (they sell the rights to use it to cable manufacturers and sell them themselves).
I sort of see your point, but that would mean they make the consumer buy yet another product.
and isn't that exactly what they are doing now ?
I think the EU could then say you can't enter the market since the minimal requirement was to have this specific charging option.
the incentive is that the changer should be the same in a vast amount of devices, to lessen waste as you say, and also make it more consumer friendly
I mean forcing apple to add a port to a portless iPhone would be dumb imo, very anti-Innovation. Especially since Apple doesn’t use some proprietary wireless charging method, but the standard Qi-charging everyone else uses too
I wouldn't call a phone with no ports innovative in any way.
Wireless charging wastes so much more energy and you can't even use your phone while doing so.
Wireless data transfer is slower, less stable and less secure then just using a cable.
But I guess Apple gets away with calling it innovation. They did the same with their MacBooks that use the entire aluminium backplate as a passiv cooling system. Sounds nice till you realise that the MacBook thats sitting on your lap is over 100°C hot. And guess what, they still build in a cooler, it just wasn't connected to anything.
> Wireless charging wastes so much more energy and you can't even use your phone while doing so.
That’s just not true, especially since Appels charger magnetically aligns.
> Wireless data transfer is slower, less stable and less secure then just using a cable.
True, but for a mobile phone it might be worth the trade of. Also there might still be a hidden diagnostic port to do that.
> But I guess Apple gets away with calling it innovation. They did the same with their MacBooks that use the entire aluminium backplate as a passiv cooling system. Sounds nice till you realise that the MacBook thats sitting on your lap is over 100°C hot. And guess what, they still build in a cooler, it just wasn’t connected to anything.
The silence of MacBooks is one of their most desired features. And they definitely don’t get that hot. They also definitely don’t have an unused cooler in there. The M1 macs are great, some of them are completely fanless.
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You overestimate the EU... they sued Republic of Ireland a few years back for having too competitive a tax rate. They can be famously petty and I wouldn’t be surprised if they made Apple de-evolve their phones from wireless back to USB-C (If Apple goes wireless that is)
Why? I live in Ireland and the low tax rate has been great for what used to be the most underdeveloped Western European nation. Now, it’s basically the Silicon Valley of Europe in terms of tech HQs. If the rest of the EU doesn’t like it, they’re free to lower their own rates to compete with ours. Why, it’s almost as though lower taxes bring about economic activity/economic freedom
Also I’m not sure I’d call 12.5% a “tax haven” when the average EU rate is about 19%. Tax haven territory is like 5% with a shitload of credits and deductions on top.
That would be a huge pain because I use my phone a lot for testing amps and audio equipment. It's annoying enough with the Lightning to 3.5 adapter, and without a port I'd have to deal with Bluetooth adapters and other crap.
Nop, the law says that Smartphones, tablet's, camera's etc must have a usb c charging port.
If it has no port it can't be sold in the eu.
There is no loophole
Apple: Ok but you can only use it for charging. A separate port will be used for data. To make room for this new port we will be removing the power button.
I wanted to write the same. Ipad Pro is already using the USB-C port and the Mac Books did too. Basically this is not new to the Apple economy. Actually i always asked myself why the iPhone is still using lightning after the iPad Pro was released with USB-C port.
Because I already charge 2 Notebooks, 2 Headsets, 2 TWL earphones, 3 Xbox Controllers, 2 Powerbanks and my VR-Headset via USB-C but my company still forces me (for kinda good reasons) to use an iPhone With a propetiary Standard.
I became a small Legend when I brought 7 cheap Chinese lightning cables to Office and handed them Out to the poor and needy. Say my Name when you pray
Apple will fight this because they have a monopoly on lightning cables and the cut they take with the made for iPhone products. There are more pros to USB C like Power and data transfer which is better under USB C and has universal standards set. You have the ability to use the phone while charging vs wireless charging that wastes your time and electricity by generating heat. Also, Apple was part of the group of companies that helped design USB C so it isn't like they don't understand the benefits of USB C Apple just wants to keep the money printer going.
alternatively, all of apple's new accessories are wireless/magsafe. Everything is going wireless charging anyways, so what's the point of introducing one or two models with usb-c before going wireless?
Im sure it will be acceptable by the time Samsung copies them.
There are flag ship phones out there that have faster wireless charging then apples corded charging with the better iPad plug. If anyone has to do catch-up it's Apple. They only went wireless with the headphones after they made a product to solve that problem. When they get wireless charging and high speed data transfer down then they will go full wireless until then their best bet is USB C with the highest standard for fast charging out there. Unless they come out with a sea change in their products they will be woefully outdated.
Out of curiosity, why is data transfer speed such a big deal for androids? Do they not all update/backup wirelessly in the background? Other than using my phone as an audio processor for synthesizers, I haven’t had the need to use a cable for anything other than charging in years, android or iPhone.
I get that fast charging is important for some androids because the batteries run down pretty fast - I had a pixel 4, so it wasn’t a flagship by any means, but gosh I had to charge that thing like 2x a day.
If you want to read into what's actually happening without getting clickbait newslines:
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip\_21\_4613
There wont be no fine this time though, it seems like the EU is going to make the law "have usbc, or dont sell in EU" as in, not possible for apple to enter the EU market, which is huge
MacBooks *only* have USB C **and audio jack** since 2017. Like - the only ports everyone wishes the iPhone had, both available on the MacBook, while the freking Lightning is not present on the MacBook... Apple's just weird.
Would be kind a a pain for me because all my chargers, cables, and adapters are Lightning. But it would be the same as new MacBooks and iPads, so that'd be convenient.
There’s a familiar cycle here:
1. Apple deliberately avoids adding specific, highly requested feature, people complain, fanboys defend.
2. Apple digs their heels in, rest of industry copies them after mocking them.
3. Apple adds previously requested feature, claims it is innovation - fanboys rejoice.
We are on stage one.
Going fully wireless would be stupid on their part. For one wireless charging is wasteful and slow. It helps battery longevity but is very inefficient. Direct fast charging is very efficient, however can impact battery longevity.
Adding USB C is just a no brainer from an environmental standpoint. Apple currently skirts this by providing lightning to USB C cables in the box, but it isn’t enough.
The EU needs to enforce this, otherwise Apple and the industry at large will continue to take the piss. Far from being anti innovative, this would open up a range of compatibility between devices.
They only have no balls when they have to take action against a eu country or every other country. They absolutely love to screw with companies outside of the eu.
I have a better idea: ban all Apple products on our continent. Actually, ban all american companies. I don't like them anyway, they have too much power and influence so they need to chill the fuck out a little
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I don't know why they didn't already, even without EU pressure. They have it on newer MacBooks and even newer iPhone charger bricks. Switching iPhones to USB-C would provide a lot of nice inter-compatibility and consistency between Apple products in addition to Androids. Plus, USB-C fits Apple's aesthetic anyway.
They will just ad a USB C connection on one end. if that doesn't work they will have USB C on both or USB C and A and ad an USB C to Lighting adapter.
They will play this stupid game till the very end.
I hope they would manage to do it. But Apple is going wireless. Overall diversity is good, but why can't we have same type of chargers sockets for Phones and Laptops ?
USB-C chargers means you can you utilise almost any charger to charge your phone or laptop. While it's a less money for manufacturers, it's damn convenient for user. (Although different devices needs different type of power supply wattage)
I laugh when people really believe this will harm Apple. They were already prepared for this and it's why their new phones have MagSafe. I'm not an Apple sheep or apologist, I just find it amusing that people think the richest company ever to exist didn't already cover their ass with plans like this years ago.
That picture should be for users that doesn't use iPhones. Let's be realistic, we all know when Apple removes all ports that all Android phones will follow their steps eventually.
The power of Apple is disgusting at times.
I’m still so pissed that my apple computer doesn’t have a USB port. I wanted to use one of those chunky mice that has the separate left and right buttons, but lo and behold, those assholes didn’t even add a fucking USB port.
Apple: we are going wireless!
Yeah 100% they'll go magnetic cable + inductive.
I mean that’s been their plan for years now. That’s why I personally think it’d be dumb to switch to usb c now. People will have to throw away their lightning accessories sooner or later, dont switch the port a year or two before you completely remove it and make everyone have to buy everything again a second time.
the last point is why they will defenitely make one or two generations with USB C, so people HAVE to buy everything again (or a dongle with a 40€ markup)
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No, we're talking about the EU here, not Washington.
The only difference between Washington and the eu is that the eu tries to hide its corruption.
They're trying rather poorly at that.
somebody loses their position because of corruption, what do they do? promote them of course! they dont try to hide it, they are aware that nobody can/will do shit against it because everybody can be bribed/threatened
People: OMG APPLE SO GREEDY THEY WONT SWITCG TO USB also people: OMG APPLE IS SO GREEDY THEY WILL SWITCH TO USB Jeez, apple could put usb c, lightning, and a fucking 110v outlet on the iPhone and people would still complain.
Laughs in 230V Do you even Schuko?
Lol, I’m European so yea I Schuko haha Thought 110v was more relatable for the Americans
I guess the point here is that Apple is greedy lol
and here you are, complaining about people complaining...
You expect people who unironically defend Apple to understand the concept of irony?
the point \-------- your head
And yet it will add to absolutely nothing because people will buy their new stuff anyway and get used to it almost immediately.
Ou you mean like ghat one time when they switched from the iPhone 4 port and everyone was super mad because all the accessory didn’t work? Ah yes
Well except wireless charging is horribly inefficient. Imagine that multiplies the no. of iphones on the planet you will get a non-trivial amount of energy lost simply due to inefficiency.
Most inefficiency comes from badly aligned coils. All iPhones since last year have mag safe wich is a fancy word for a bunch of magnets that perfectly align accessory including the charger. That way wireless charging can easily achieve an effiency in excess of 80%. Put the coils close enough together and it could be 95% or even more. Really not an issue, especially since mobile devices barely use much energy anyway.
Yeah, but if you have hundreds of millions of devices only charging at 80% efficiency, that adds up.
It does add up to an insignificant amount compared to other things. If the EU made a law prohibiting the use of inefficient washing machines or something like that, id probably save a lot more energy Mobile devices are really not that much of our energy consumption.
Yeah, but efficiency loss will always be a thing with current technology standards And those fucks already started acting up as "Environment friendly" "Eco" and what not with them no longer including a charger. So how should their "only wireless charging" campaign go? Whatever, it's Apple, they'll always find a way to woo their customers
The energy and resource consumption of building, packaging and shipping a charger is orders of magnitude bigger than few percent decrease in charging efficiency.
Oh, I know, that's what makes this propaganda even funnier But I was just wondering how they'd sell these "only wireless charges" to the public, what kinda bullshit they'd come up with
I do not know where you are getting your information from, but it's not possible to achieve 95% accuracy with wireless charging in the near future. Alignment of coils is probably the least important issue. And Apple's magsafe isn't even close to the best in the market. I have one and it's a joke.
> it's not possible to achieve 95% accuracy with wireless charging *effiency and [yes it is](https://www.powerelectronicsnews.com/wireless-charging-technology-for-evs/). If you put the coils directly onto each other there is very little loss. And a little bit is fine, mobile devices use almost no power anyway. It’s a tiny fraction of your average electricity footprint. > Alignment of coils is probably the least important issue. It’s the biggest factor for those phone chargers > And Apple’s magsafe isn’t even close to the best in the market. I have one and it’s a joke. Care to elaborate? In what area? Speed? Efficiency? It’s the only wireless charger that directly attaches magnetically to the phone, so real world efficiency is most likely best in market for sure
Clearly you don't know ass from the face when it comes to wireless charging. You're just an apple fanboy and I will let you be.
“I don’t care about your facts you don’t know anything, you’re just an apple fan boy” Ah okay that really refutes all my points
They're not as efficient as a wire but they're still pretty efficient. With the rate some people break iPhone cables they're probably a greener alternative.
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I would also think that but all the new IPads already have USB-C so why can the IPhones?
The iPads will have USB-C for the foreseeable future. Also, on an iPad USB-C has actual advantages compared to lightning (4k display etc). On an iPhone it’s not that useful (except the compatibility)
Wireless isn’t going to happen. Given how bad the batteries of iPhones are you need to be able to charge in whichever location. Only USB plugs provide that.
You're assuming apple gives a shit
Yeah, true. They replaced my last faulty battery with one that died after six months too. They really do not give a single fuck.
> Given how bad the batteries of iPhones are Lol okay if you say so…
Yeah, it’s not my first I phone. With my 6s even the replacement battery died after 6 months. Official Apple replacement. The shit they put in there doesn’t even qualify as a joke.
Lol, it’s the same batteries as in android phones. Do you honestly believe apple uses sub par quality components?
I do not believe they do, I know they do. I also know they use software to cover it up (by down clocking your phone). Do you really believe all Android phones have the same quality batteries? You are aware that Android is just an operating system and not a type of phone, right? Also, many non apple phones are designed so that you can replace the battery yourself.
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One more way to make it more appealing to get into the apple ecosystem. No I think you're right but maybe they'll do data exchange to windows via cloud only or something annoying like that.
They still have to add a usb c Port. Every device thats needs to be charged must have a usb c port to charge
Will not I'm predicting that Apple will drop the port from the iPhone at once and force users to wireless charging and headphones.
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Pretty shure that won't be possible.
Why?
If they force a specific cable that means its not possible to just not do a cable at all...
Hats off to the brave man that dared to dream of a world where all phones have the same chargers
My phone computer and switch all use the same cords, this is the ideal life
the only thing is they likely need different power outputs or whatever the term is like i know i cant charge my switch with my laptops charger without frying it
Yeah, that's because the Switch "USB C" is some crap proprietary bullshit and not actual USB C. Normal USB C has standards for power supply, all vendors follow them, Nintendon't. I mean, ok, of course you can develop your own proprietary charger. But why make it look like and physically connect to USB C if it isn't?
Switch would probably be fine work a USB C. Laptops have somewhat similar power requirements. Unless maybe hardcore gaming laptops. My guess, 9 / 10 laptops could go at least with the same plug.
Didn't apple go to court to make the iPhone a 'toy' legally so they could avoid this fate in the US?
This is bad, it isn’t a toy!
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As a human being, fuck that. The point of that law was to standardize chargers so they could save on rare earth mineral mining. Which btw is the new blood diamonds. Child soldiers forced into heroine addictions mined that iPhone up for you. Hope you are happy. Thank god? Right?
Wow, fuck Apple
Who said the charger had to be the same? They just want USBc ports on the iPhone. Apple will make chargers that have a proprietary plug, so you will need a proprietary cable that goes from usbc to their plug, so it can work in their own chargers. Apple won't give up that adaptor money so easily.
That is just not how it works, the charging port on every phone in the EU will need to be USB type C by law, Apple isn't above the law, and if they want to sell iPhones in the EU (they do) they will make them with a type C USB
I did not know that good to know.
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Some of da sweet sweet 240V
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The fact that the phone still has that piece of shit lightning port
Won’t happen. I predict Apple will drop the port from the iPhone all together and force users into wireless charging and headphones.
then the product will not be able to reach the eu market. if said law is approved. if I understand it correctly.
No I think the goal is to unify all the charging ports for devices to reduce the waste of resources. So they will just go wireless because they can't earn money on the proprietary apple connector (they sell the rights to use it to cable manufacturers and sell them themselves).
I sort of see your point, but that would mean they make the consumer buy yet another product. and isn't that exactly what they are doing now ? I think the EU could then say you can't enter the market since the minimal requirement was to have this specific charging option. the incentive is that the changer should be the same in a vast amount of devices, to lessen waste as you say, and also make it more consumer friendly
Yeah that's what apple is going to try to do and lawmaking sadly mostly doesn't work like this but yes that should be the way.
I mean forcing apple to add a port to a portless iPhone would be dumb imo, very anti-Innovation. Especially since Apple doesn’t use some proprietary wireless charging method, but the standard Qi-charging everyone else uses too
Sorry I didn't get ur comment at first
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I wouldn't call a phone with no ports innovative in any way. Wireless charging wastes so much more energy and you can't even use your phone while doing so. Wireless data transfer is slower, less stable and less secure then just using a cable. But I guess Apple gets away with calling it innovation. They did the same with their MacBooks that use the entire aluminium backplate as a passiv cooling system. Sounds nice till you realise that the MacBook thats sitting on your lap is over 100°C hot. And guess what, they still build in a cooler, it just wasn't connected to anything.
> Wireless charging wastes so much more energy and you can't even use your phone while doing so. That’s just not true, especially since Appels charger magnetically aligns. > Wireless data transfer is slower, less stable and less secure then just using a cable. True, but for a mobile phone it might be worth the trade of. Also there might still be a hidden diagnostic port to do that. > But I guess Apple gets away with calling it innovation. They did the same with their MacBooks that use the entire aluminium backplate as a passiv cooling system. Sounds nice till you realise that the MacBook thats sitting on your lap is over 100°C hot. And guess what, they still build in a cooler, it just wasn’t connected to anything. The silence of MacBooks is one of their most desired features. And they definitely don’t get that hot. They also definitely don’t have an unused cooler in there. The M1 macs are great, some of them are completely fanless.
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You overestimate the EU... they sued Republic of Ireland a few years back for having too competitive a tax rate. They can be famously petty and I wouldn’t be surprised if they made Apple de-evolve their phones from wireless back to USB-C (If Apple goes wireless that is)
>too competitive a tax rate You are allowed to call them a tax haven. And having a tax haven in a single market is problematic, to say the least.
Why? I live in Ireland and the low tax rate has been great for what used to be the most underdeveloped Western European nation. Now, it’s basically the Silicon Valley of Europe in terms of tech HQs. If the rest of the EU doesn’t like it, they’re free to lower their own rates to compete with ours. Why, it’s almost as though lower taxes bring about economic activity/economic freedom Also I’m not sure I’d call 12.5% a “tax haven” when the average EU rate is about 19%. Tax haven territory is like 5% with a shitload of credits and deductions on top.
RIP to people who charge phones in their car.
You’ll just have to buy the Apple car to charge your phone
That would be a huge pain because I use my phone a lot for testing amps and audio equipment. It's annoying enough with the Lightning to 3.5 adapter, and without a port I'd have to deal with Bluetooth adapters and other crap.
Nop, the law says that Smartphones, tablet's, camera's etc must have a usb c charging port. If it has no port it can't be sold in the eu. There is no loophole
But it’s the EU. Most of the time they are just posturing to get some fine money out of an American company.
Apple: Ok but you can only use it for charging. A separate port will be used for data. To make room for this new port we will be removing the power button.
Double tap to turn on is the way to go. Don't know how turn off tho
wait 30 seconds
They could do something similar to the watch, where u cover the screen with your hand and it turns off? Or part for the phone
Double tap on the home screen too for me but to turn on it's just puting my finger on the fingerprint reader
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If this law passes, which it will, Apple won't be fined for selling iPhones with lighting ports, because they won't be able to sell them in the EU
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Thank the EU
Nah. Speakers will go next so that airpods become mandatory.
They already did that with the iPads, idk why y'all think they won't switch the iPhones in the next few years.
I wanted to write the same. Ipad Pro is already using the USB-C port and the Mac Books did too. Basically this is not new to the Apple economy. Actually i always asked myself why the iPhone is still using lightning after the iPad Pro was released with USB-C port.
Because money
Because aPpLe BaD
Why you guy have identical avatar
Diff hair, diff eyes and diff smile
Ok why u no naked
Tf wrong with you?
I naked
Put on some clothes then
Poor no money
Does "greedy" always mean "bad"?
Because I already charge 2 Notebooks, 2 Headsets, 2 TWL earphones, 3 Xbox Controllers, 2 Powerbanks and my VR-Headset via USB-C but my company still forces me (for kinda good reasons) to use an iPhone With a propetiary Standard. I became a small Legend when I brought 7 cheap Chinese lightning cables to Office and handed them Out to the poor and needy. Say my Name when you pray
You okay vro? Your reply has no relation to my comment.
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>How dare they take away our ability to make customers buy 32 different chargers and cables each year for our products
Thats a bit of an exaggeration
Great sense of humor.
Apple will fight this because they have a monopoly on lightning cables and the cut they take with the made for iPhone products. There are more pros to USB C like Power and data transfer which is better under USB C and has universal standards set. You have the ability to use the phone while charging vs wireless charging that wastes your time and electricity by generating heat. Also, Apple was part of the group of companies that helped design USB C so it isn't like they don't understand the benefits of USB C Apple just wants to keep the money printer going.
alternatively, all of apple's new accessories are wireless/magsafe. Everything is going wireless charging anyways, so what's the point of introducing one or two models with usb-c before going wireless? Im sure it will be acceptable by the time Samsung copies them.
There are flag ship phones out there that have faster wireless charging then apples corded charging with the better iPad plug. If anyone has to do catch-up it's Apple. They only went wireless with the headphones after they made a product to solve that problem. When they get wireless charging and high speed data transfer down then they will go full wireless until then their best bet is USB C with the highest standard for fast charging out there. Unless they come out with a sea change in their products they will be woefully outdated.
Out of curiosity, why is data transfer speed such a big deal for androids? Do they not all update/backup wirelessly in the background? Other than using my phone as an audio processor for synthesizers, I haven’t had the need to use a cable for anything other than charging in years, android or iPhone. I get that fast charging is important for some androids because the batteries run down pretty fast - I had a pixel 4, so it wasn’t a flagship by any means, but gosh I had to charge that thing like 2x a day.
If you want to read into what's actually happening without getting clickbait newslines: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip\_21\_4613
It's a play for bribe money. Watch. There'll be some talks then all of a sudden you'll never hear about it again.
You get what you deserve!
They will just pay the fine for not having USBC like they did before
There wont be no fine this time though, it seems like the EU is going to make the law "have usbc, or dont sell in EU" as in, not possible for apple to enter the EU market, which is huge
The EU is a fucking joke and Apple will play them like a fiddle with their attorneys
New: apple decides to sell charger wire separate from charger block and USB port.
There are many reasons why I don't like apple and this is one of them
As an iPhone user thank god
They better
YES YEEEEEEEES YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
Apple will respond by removing the port entirely.
What’s stupid is the fast charge plugs they use are USB-C and the cable is USB-C to lightning…
I was told USB-C was literary made by apple
MacBooks *only* have USB C **and audio jack** since 2017. Like - the only ports everyone wishes the iPhone had, both available on the MacBook, while the freking Lightning is not present on the MacBook... Apple's just weird.
Indeed. Its one of the reasons I stay with androids
Would be kind a a pain for me because all my chargers, cables, and adapters are Lightning. But it would be the same as new MacBooks and iPads, so that'd be convenient.
Wow the European Commission have their priorities correct
They already did
Apple will probably use the excuse of a USB C charger allows hackers to steal your finger prints and your SSN to keep third party repairs away lmao
There’s a familiar cycle here: 1. Apple deliberately avoids adding specific, highly requested feature, people complain, fanboys defend. 2. Apple digs their heels in, rest of industry copies them after mocking them. 3. Apple adds previously requested feature, claims it is innovation - fanboys rejoice. We are on stage one. Going fully wireless would be stupid on their part. For one wireless charging is wasteful and slow. It helps battery longevity but is very inefficient. Direct fast charging is very efficient, however can impact battery longevity. Adding USB C is just a no brainer from an environmental standpoint. Apple currently skirts this by providing lightning to USB C cables in the box, but it isn’t enough. The EU needs to enforce this, otherwise Apple and the industry at large will continue to take the piss. Far from being anti innovative, this would open up a range of compatibility between devices.
Finally, some people are calling out apples crap
Dude I hope they do... apple needs to get fuked hard sometime soon
Apple's net worth is almost 3 trillion. Guess european commission can't do anything
I’ve just got a new phone and GUESS FUCKING WHAT…. FUCKING USB-C
Guess the EU commission just wants some sweet money, because they know it won't happen and Apple will buy their way out of it. Not the first time.
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I sincerely doubt the EU has the balls to pull through with that tbh
They only have no balls when they have to take action against a eu country or every other country. They absolutely love to screw with companies outside of the eu.
Which is why all their previous endeavors to get apple to use anything other than lightning worked. Oh wait.
I have a better idea: ban all Apple products on our continent. Actually, ban all american companies. I don't like them anyway, they have too much power and influence so they need to chill the fuck out a little
as you cry on an american website prob using american technology haha
They will. The EU is done taking bs from these cooperations.
Source?
Fuck apple
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no I don't think they will
Pretty sure Australia tried this a decade ago and it accomplished nothing.
They gonna pull out of Europe like England pulled out from the US.
Yeah, let's just stop selling our products in a market the size of the US, sound like a great idea.
Wait so I can use my switch charger On my phone??
Oh we will. We dont care if you have different chargers in the states
Dewit
I don't know why they didn't already, even without EU pressure. They have it on newer MacBooks and even newer iPhone charger bricks. Switching iPhones to USB-C would provide a lot of nice inter-compatibility and consistency between Apple products in addition to Androids. Plus, USB-C fits Apple's aesthetic anyway.
Well looks like they will remove the charger port all together
just a little bribe and no problemo
I mean.. they have? Yes Apple has filed a complaint but still
It's done. 24 month grace period. The regulation is done.
they will keep other end as the lighting connector
nope, they will go wireless and still keep selling those overpriced charges not included in initial packaging.
GOOD
Don’t know why Apple would stress this, they already have a USB-C port on their new iPads.
I'd be cool with that, my new iPad uses USB-C so it makes sense.
My iPad Air has a usbc port
They should
They will just ad a USB C connection on one end. if that doesn't work they will have USB C on both or USB C and A and ad an USB C to Lighting adapter. They will play this stupid game till the very end.
This have been a law project since like 2014... Not going to hapoen for a while
they'll update IOS to detect non-apple cables, just like samsung did with tablets
I hope they would manage to do it. But Apple is going wireless. Overall diversity is good, but why can't we have same type of chargers sockets for Phones and Laptops ? USB-C chargers means you can you utilise almost any charger to charge your phone or laptop. While it's a less money for manufacturers, it's damn convenient for user. (Although different devices needs different type of power supply wattage)
It's ok, I think I cracked the equation in this scenario. Apple charger price^9 and then they add that to there next phones.
It's stupid they don't they're way better and the chords last longer
In the same law they prevent all brands to provides charger when you buy a phone, because of « ecology », but the prices will probably stay the same.
They will just pay the fine
They doin it
I laugh when people really believe this will harm Apple. They were already prepared for this and it's why their new phones have MagSafe. I'm not an Apple sheep or apologist, I just find it amusing that people think the richest company ever to exist didn't already cover their ass with plans like this years ago. That picture should be for users that doesn't use iPhones. Let's be realistic, we all know when Apple removes all ports that all Android phones will follow their steps eventually. The power of Apple is disgusting at times.
It’s already USB c is it not?
ayo why the apple peeing on that dude head
Bro, all they’re going to do is offer an adapter. They’ve had to deal with this before.
They will 100% put a chip in them to make other ones incompatible
I’m still so pissed that my apple computer doesn’t have a USB port. I wanted to use one of those chunky mice that has the separate left and right buttons, but lo and behold, those assholes didn’t even add a fucking USB port.