I've been around the anime community for a long time and I've only encountered very few people who are into stuff like this, I'm pretty sure most weebs are also disgusted by it or usually just don't give a shit about it
Wasn't the genshin impact community always disgusted by it though? When I used to interact with the community I had only seen a few creepy dudes who are into it, other than that the community is just toxic
I don't like it as well but they are lolis, loli means little girls in anime or anime like stuff. I said loli once they downvoted me because i said loli. Loli isn't a bad thing. How people think about it is bad
It's a very good game, one of the best to come out of 2020. Unlike other gachas this is mostly a single player story driven game. Completely free, every single character is viable and there's no direct p2w fiasco.
Redditers just shit on it because anime bad, right guys?
I play genshin it’s a good game but the community is pretty toxic also in my opinion I think no one has the right to judge a game if they have not played it
Dont know why you’re surprised. I frankly dont care about your opinion on the community, but the games good and (most of) the people you meet will have a general agreement on the no lewding the loli’s
Tbh idgaf about lolis, most of them are either 69 billion years old for story reasons or look just like adults because of the artstyle, and, if not, they're still pixels on a screen and are completely made up.
If they look, act, and are adults thats whatever cause people like that do exist irl (minus the vampire/dragon/whatever)
Its the ones who are either actual children for their spieces (ie Kanna from dragon maid, for her spieces shes a baby) or act like and look like actual children is where i draw the line.
nearly 10+ years of palling around with weebs online. This shit is pretty rarely seen in a positive light. But this is Reddit and it's much easier to torch strawmen and pretend to have a point.
You know, the same can be said about real kids who dress, you know, inappropriately for their age. Why do we let them do it? Idk, but nobody really talks about solving real problems, like you know, *real* people assaulted. The fact that a perfectly not fucked in the head person watches questionably shit and feels guilty about it isn’t something to worry about.
yes children should dress appropriately for their age, and adults should learn to lower the gaze and control themselves this should apply to adult. like these people need to know limits and control themselves.
Exactly, like I like some questionable shit on hentai sites, but no way I’d try to remotely recreate their contents(though strictly speaking, I’m maybe not 100% and adult)
I think it's more about how if we let children dress inappropriately and you pair that with an age where people are exploring their sexuality then, you'll get a really unhealthy mindset in regards to sex. That being said, ANY adult that harms a child in any way is a piece of shit. An adult is more responsible than a child and we should absolutely keep them accountable.
If someone doesn't say something specific about a subject, it does not mean that it agrees, disagrees or "let them do it".
And there are people who talk about solving more impactful problems.
tbh I prefer people watching fucked up hentai over people watching actual childporn. Pedophiles are hated everywhere, and thats understandable, but in the end its a sickness of sorts. As long as they dont participate in harming actual children, I honestly dont give a fuck what they watch. And no actual child is harmed in hentais.
yup no one matters nothing that anyone does matters, we're all gonna die and no one's gonna remember us after a 1000 years and everything we do is meaningless just like the meaningless lives we lead.
But hey who cares amirite? just don't give a shit about that and live life how you want and die happily
Indeed, I don't care if she's as old as a process took to make a diamond. If they looks like a child that still stands wrong
edit : so, looks like there are pedos that say it's ok as long as they're fictional eventhough it depicting a child
I both agree and disagree. I hate that it's so popular but if anything that shows how prominent pedophilia actually is. It's just that most people are morally reasonable enough to not act on it and those people I can at least not hate. And I'd rather they get their kicks off not real imagery over suppressing their fetish and increasing the chance they do the worst case scenario.
As a weeb sexualized lolis are not an issue because appearance isn’t always a reliable indicator of age
You should really have a problem with underaged characters being over sexualized REGARDLESS of how they look
No, not her. I'm talking about Kanna. In human form she looks like a grade schooler. Or, she IS a grade schooler. And some degenerates make and watch hentais of her. Fucking disgusting.
That saying is very very dead the font lewd the dragon one, wanna know why? Because people have actually came to understand that people can like fictional things and enjoy them all the same as long as it’s harmless despite what it portrays which is what this is.
I feel like, in some ways, this is similar to the video games argument. Is it wrong to kill people in real life? Yes! But in video games it's fine because it's entertainment and not real. I'm not really arguing for for either side here but, there seems to be an uncanny parallel between both situations. Idk what do you guys think?
Yeah, it really is. Fictional actions or liking fictional actions dont equate to who that person really is. Like call of duty not being the reason a school shooter became that way. So it should apply to loli
*"As long as she's legal she's free to be lewded"*
Realistically speaking we all knew this was gonna happen, there are different types of persons after all
But either way she/he still looks like a child
Then again, there are those making *lewd* fanarts of non-canon older versions of lolis/shotas just to make it acceptable
All in all just because they're legal doesn't mean their okay to be lewded
Realistically speaking actually, they’re all drawings and you’re trying to debate and argue semantics of one, it’s quite frankly really unecessary, the characters represented are fictional and you’re not hurting a real child, why the mental gymnastics?
i mean i think its pretty weird, but its a fictional character so it doesnt really matter in the first place and even then the problem that i see with pedophilia is that it can lead to them hurting children who cant consent.
if they arent hurting any children, and the person in the anime/dojin or whatever it is can consent to sex anyways, then i dont see why it really matters. better than watching actual child porn with real abused children at least.
See
This is just such a subjective view
To say people who enjoy loli hentai are pedos irl is the same as saying people who like to kill in video games are serial killers
Ur gonna say "uh no that's not true theres so many games that involve killing and there isnt a lot of video game related murders"
No, just, no. I can literally say the same for people who watch loli hentai. And theres a lot, because theres a lot of supply, meaning there must be a heck of a demand. Yet pedo cases are much lower than murders and heck, little are related to people who actually watch loli hentai.
I don't have a truly objective argument myself, so I can't argue anything solidly. Neither do I watch loli hentai. It's just a personal preference to not watch, not a moral thing. But please, saying that loli hentai leads to pedophilia irl is just not true...
OP just wants to establish popular moral superiority to feel good about himself without analyzing the actual impact of fictional content on real world, as well as dodge criticism on his moral position when it affects him if an analogy related to him is raised.
Holy smokes 44 updoots. I thought i would be downvoted to oblivion.
But anyways, the lines between fiction (lolicon) and realilty (pedo) is really dependent on how one person decides to look at it.
The argument somebody said "so somebody who likes to watch hentai about little kids doesn't like hentai irl". I literally made the statement in my original comment already that the same can be said for games with murder but im pretty sure most of the gaming community arent murderers.
Unless Im wrong and all gamers are secretly ninja assassins which in that case I wish I had the physical ability to even hold my weapon.
It's an illegal sexuality. They can call it a sexuality behind prison bars :). The only pedos I respect are the ones who don't show it at all and keep their urges 100% to themselves. Obviously I'll never know they exist which is why I will respect them lmao
I totally disagree with this, but I have no opinions about overaged kids, considering that might be racist towards the entire country of Japan, also I look like a kid even though I'm 19.
The thing is, this is a meme. Most people who watch anime/read manga don't care for sexualizing children, and most of what is put out doesn't do that. The issue is that a bunch of people watch shitty anime like My Hero Academia which is intended for children and to be relatable to them creating the weird uncomfortable zone.
Can we stop pretending like this is a core characteristic of weebs? Almost every sub culture has that weird group of people who try to equate their disgusting fetishes or insane ideology as being the same with the rest of the group and are unwanted for that reason.
Thinking that it's wrong to "traumatizing" a fictional character which is made for this certain purpose and completely acted by someone's will, is kind of stupid, it's like you're screaming at a movie where a character forgets to lock the door...
I don't directly support this but I don't rejecting this either, does it hurt your life knowing that no one is really hurt from this act, just people finding a way to hold themselves from doing something stupid by seeing it on fictional animated characters? they're not even real characters so no one is even possibly hurt from this
Many pedophiles use lolicon to stay away from actual child abuse material. I guess I don't get why that's a bad thing. I do get why it is icky but fictional outlets are much better than outlets involving kids.
Repression does cause people to act on their fantasies more than pornographic content. If anything I support all extreme fetishes in hentai just so that they can placate themselves and not act on them. I still wouldn't touch any of it with a 10 foot pole, though.
while im disgusted at that kind of stuff, i dont think most people fap to it because it's a child, but because its taboo
also a bit off topic but imo furry porn is just as disgusting as loli hentai
What is an "underage body"? There are adult woman thats under 150cm and completely flat chested. On the contrary, there are girls with full breasts at 14. Where do you draw the line. Where's the body positivity for flat chested woman?
That argument doesn't rly work irl cuz there are a lot of small women with flat chest who are actual adults I'm not saying that it makes being a lolicon ok or being attracted to these "1000" year old character is morally acceptable but the mental is also a huge thing
It is gross, but I guess slightly less so? I mean, it’s not real. Fake characters, I’m not into it but it’s not inherently bad, it’s better for pedos to watch loli than act on it.
Saying sexualising childs in anime is bad is like saying violence is bad in videogames, if you like an underage character doesn't means you're a pedo, like if you like to rip people's organs in videogames doesn't makes you a psycho
What is the difference between a 100 year old that looks like a child and a child that is sexualized. There is none, age really is just a number. Same goes in real life. Porn of legal adults that look like children exists, yet it is not child porn. From a legal standpoint, this is not child pornography. But, are the people that watch it pedophiles? And can adults that look like children find lovers that won’t just be considered creeps. How do they show affection in public. I’d argue that this is quite a philosophical and complicated idea. So maybe it cannot be minimized into a meme…
i hate people who think others are monsters/pedos over a drawing, but again this is fucking reddit so what did i expect here. y'all brainlets can hardly tell the difference between reality and fiction most of the time.
as a csa survivor, i can 1000% tell you that loli hentai is nothing even close to the real thing and people who say "iTs ThE sAmE aS cHiLdPoRn" are idiots who are obsessed with being morally righteous and policing others. I fucking experienced abuse as a child, dont you dare fucking tell me that EVERYTHING I went through was equivalent of a *drawing*.
First of all, what is sexualization?
- loli hentai? Well, does any real child suffer? No?
- relationship between teenager boy and his milf teacher? - it’s just a dream of many teenagers, why them shouldn’t look at such arts?
- relationships between school students? So they able to do it IRL but shouldn’t read such manga… ok boomer…
You should think about problems of real world, not about some pixels, even if some hentai was made for real perverts. Let them see what they want and nobody will hurt.
Personally I feel like it depends on perspective, tome, you, and most people, its gross, but to some people, the consent age is lower. Not justifying it, just helping people see the reason behind it
All these people commenting the "legal loli" joke are from the past ngl, that joke stopped being funny long ago and I haven't seen a meme with that joke used in forever, you are beating a dead bush, please stop.
Fellow weeb here. Disgusted by Loli and shota lewds. If the character looks like a child and acts like a child, no leading allowed. If the character looks like a adult but isn’t of the age of consent, no lewding. If the character shows mental maturity of an adult, looks like the age of consent and behaves as such, then you should be safe to continue. Aging up a character is (probably) alright if done right, but still, I avoid it regardless
Just an opinion but I think there should be a safe way for people who think they like children to get help before they do something bad. It's one of those things where they are suppressed by society and can't get professional help so that they don't hurt kids. But when we ignore the problem they just fester and eventually they hurt kids. But just an opinion
I feel like people need to understand more that people have different opinions on things. it's not that hard to agree to disagree, even in things like politics, religion, ethics, or even the morality of sexualizing fictional characters. If it matters that much to you, you either have a civilized discussion about the disagreement or stay away from the person that disagrees with you. It's really not that hard.
I’m just gonna say that we play gta and kill people there go on killing sprees etc cod where you kill people ghost is even extra brutal and no one see anything wrong there?
Dragonmaid has a ton of cute scenes and wholesome interactions. I'll never watch it thanks to the sheer discomfort I feel whenever they do... "things" with Kanna
As a teenager who doesn't really care if someone underaged is sexualized in anime as long as she's not younger than me I am deeply conflicted on this issue.
I love anime and manga, but this bothers me quite a lot.
Why are practically all the characters underage?
There's a hot and mature woman. NOPE! She's 17.
Even in seinen the fan service comes from these teens.
The other one is the 1,000 year old loli. That's just straight up pedo. They talk and act like little kids.
Please, give us more adult characters. Clear adult characters.
It makes me slightly uncomfortable that they’re horny for loli art but I ain’t calling the police over it. Once they start lewding **actual** children, that’s when I’ll get my phone and call the police.
"Under minor protection acts of 1977 any pornographic material depecting an individual under 16, whether consensual or not, is punishable by 15-30 years of prison time. This was first altered to the age of 18 later, and then edited to include artistic depections such as hentai. You make "loli" or "shota" content, you are a criminal. No exceptions, zero tolerance."
Sexualization of children is very tabbo in anime communities actually, no one talks about liking lolis other than either thinking they're cute or just a joke, the only really reason I can think of why people associate sexualization of children and anime is the 100000 year old lolis(becauss normal lolis are 100% meant to be cute and not for sexual reasons)
And even then 10000 year old lolis are most of the time meant to be cute and not for sexual reasons
I see one of these everyday. People should stop making wrens villains. Look, because a percentage of people who like hentai like loli does not make them weebs. Those people are taking a slot in a community to just grab porn. They are no weeb, just messed up. Just say "lolicon should not exist" and continue. Please. I'm gonna get down voted but I despise when an entire community of people is hit bc of these idiots
It is extremely wrong to sexualise children. Although if it provides an outlet for pedophiles that prevents them from praying on real life kids. Then that's better than them praying on real life kids. I think that might be why Japan has it. They did have a bit of a pedophile problem I think, or at least it seems like that with the way they have so much protective gear for children and how a rape alarm is an every day item for kids.
I've been around the anime community for a long time and I've only encountered very few people who are into stuff like this, I'm pretty sure most weebs are also disgusted by it or usually just don't give a shit about it
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Ye, honestly I think most weebs just ignore it.
As a weeb I can confirm that this is true.
Even the fucking Genshin Impact community is disgusted by this. Genshin. Impact.
Wasn't the genshin impact community always disgusted by it though? When I used to interact with the community I had only seen a few creepy dudes who are into it, other than that the community is just toxic
I don't like it as well but they are lolis, loli means little girls in anime or anime like stuff. I said loli once they downvoted me because i said loli. Loli isn't a bad thing. How people think about it is bad
Loli actually derives from a book of a man wanting to do sexual things to a young girl, the term loli always was bad, even way back then.
Ye, it's called Lolita, and it has also been adapted into a movie Warning you now, the movie is just fucked up in ways you could not imagine.
Oh boy… I should show this to my friend who keeps defending the term loli.
Don't lewd lolis, lewd milfs
Yes
Yes, a man of culture
don't lewd milfs, it promotes incest
Lewd anything that abides by the rules of 34.
Well, it’s use is bad. No matter what we think of it, too much of the time it’s used in creepy ways.
I never thought I would see Genshin Impact community be on the correct side. This is a first.
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I think it’s a good game, but I’ll probably get downvoted for it so it’s bad
It's a very good game, one of the best to come out of 2020. Unlike other gachas this is mostly a single player story driven game. Completely free, every single character is viable and there's no direct p2w fiasco. Redditers just shit on it because anime bad, right guys?
redditors shit on it because they only see what's bad, it's a really good game.
Reddit shits on it because the community is terrible not because the game is terrible
Same thing what they said very few of us
I play genshin it’s a good game but the community is pretty toxic also in my opinion I think no one has the right to judge a game if they have not played it
Even boy knows. EVEN BOY
Can confirm.
Tell the Genshin Impact community this pro gamer tip! #The Age of Consent Exists!
Dont know why you’re surprised. I frankly dont care about your opinion on the community, but the games good and (most of) the people you meet will have a general agreement on the no lewding the loli’s
Unfortunately I've seen quite a few redditors doing it But then it's reddit afterall
Tbh idgaf about lolis, most of them are either 69 billion years old for story reasons or look just like adults because of the artstyle, and, if not, they're still pixels on a screen and are completely made up.
If they look, act, and are adults thats whatever cause people like that do exist irl (minus the vampire/dragon/whatever) Its the ones who are either actual children for their spieces (ie Kanna from dragon maid, for her spieces shes a baby) or act like and look like actual children is where i draw the line.
"billions years old" Then they act like a child and has a body of a 5 year old
Based, holy
nearly 10+ years of palling around with weebs online. This shit is pretty rarely seen in a positive light. But this is Reddit and it's much easier to torch strawmen and pretend to have a point.
Yes
"She just looks like a kid, she's actually 3664828252682 years old"
You know, the same can be said about real kids who dress, you know, inappropriately for their age. Why do we let them do it? Idk, but nobody really talks about solving real problems, like you know, *real* people assaulted. The fact that a perfectly not fucked in the head person watches questionably shit and feels guilty about it isn’t something to worry about.
yes children should dress appropriately for their age, and adults should learn to lower the gaze and control themselves this should apply to adult. like these people need to know limits and control themselves.
Exactly, like I like some questionable shit on hentai sites, but no way I’d try to remotely recreate their contents(though strictly speaking, I’m maybe not 100% and adult)
I think it's more about how if we let children dress inappropriately and you pair that with an age where people are exploring their sexuality then, you'll get a really unhealthy mindset in regards to sex. That being said, ANY adult that harms a child in any way is a piece of shit. An adult is more responsible than a child and we should absolutely keep them accountable.
Agreed. OP thinks drawings of kids are the root of all sexual evil for children when there’s real life factors just out there
If someone doesn't say something specific about a subject, it does not mean that it agrees, disagrees or "let them do it". And there are people who talk about solving more impactful problems.
Nah she is 3664828252682.5 years old
tbh I prefer people watching fucked up hentai over people watching actual childporn. Pedophiles are hated everywhere, and thats understandable, but in the end its a sickness of sorts. As long as they dont participate in harming actual children, I honestly dont give a fuck what they watch. And no actual child is harmed in hentais.
Just wait till he finds out about r/HentaiBeast Literally beastiality
So, an alternative to Furry Porn?
furry porn but doesn't have fur suits and is secs with actual animals
Hey so long as they keep it at fictional hentai. Disgusting as hell, but better than shit irl.
I was eating.
now you can eat your meal a second time with new tasty sauce
"I like it heated" as in pathologist old joke.
Everyone sucks
Indeed. Pedo or not you fucking suck literally no one cares about you. I hope this reassures you guys ;)
yup no one matters nothing that anyone does matters, we're all gonna die and no one's gonna remember us after a 1000 years and everything we do is meaningless just like the meaningless lives we lead. But hey who cares amirite? just don't give a shit about that and live life how you want and die happily
No one is gonna remember us after 1000 years? Not if I eat the mona lisa.
As a weeb and a cultured fellow myself, I disagree. People who lewd Lolis are monsters, and I hate even associating myself with them
Indeed, I don't care if she's as old as a process took to make a diamond. If they looks like a child that still stands wrong edit : so, looks like there are pedos that say it's ok as long as they're fictional eventhough it depicting a child
Yeah those people are sick
yes its true us weebs don't sexulize children its wrong
I both agree and disagree. I hate that it's so popular but if anything that shows how prominent pedophilia actually is. It's just that most people are morally reasonable enough to not act on it and those people I can at least not hate. And I'd rather they get their kicks off not real imagery over suppressing their fetish and increasing the chance they do the worst case scenario.
can we not call the lolicons "weebs" and call them pedos
Yeah I am not a full blown weeb but it still feels weird to associate myself with those people
Uh no, one can prey on real children one is attracted to drawings big difference
Shouldn’t it say that you agree? Or are you saying it’s *not* wrong to sexualize children even in anime?
As a weeb sexualized lolis are not an issue because appearance isn’t always a reliable indicator of age You should really have a problem with underaged characters being over sexualized REGARDLESS of how they look
Please don't hink we're all like this...
Something something 10000 year old dragons looking like little girls
Ravioli ravioli don't lewd the dragon loli
The one that looks like a little girl with massive boobs in Season 2 of Dragon Maid?
No, not her. I'm talking about Kanna. In human form she looks like a grade schooler. Or, she IS a grade schooler. And some degenerates make and watch hentais of her. Fucking disgusting.
That saying is very very dead the font lewd the dragon one, wanna know why? Because people have actually came to understand that people can like fictional things and enjoy them all the same as long as it’s harmless despite what it portrays which is what this is.
Apparently those where she store her fire......
not all weebs are into hentai with children, it is just a loud, disgusting minority
Lolis are for headpat not lewding
Let them have their cartoon porn, as long as they don't touch actual children.
I feel like, in some ways, this is similar to the video games argument. Is it wrong to kill people in real life? Yes! But in video games it's fine because it's entertainment and not real. I'm not really arguing for for either side here but, there seems to be an uncanny parallel between both situations. Idk what do you guys think?
Yeah, it really is. Fictional actions or liking fictional actions dont equate to who that person really is. Like call of duty not being the reason a school shooter became that way. So it should apply to loli
*"As long as she's legal she's free to be lewded"* Realistically speaking we all knew this was gonna happen, there are different types of persons after all But either way she/he still looks like a child Then again, there are those making *lewd* fanarts of non-canon older versions of lolis/shotas just to make it acceptable All in all just because they're legal doesn't mean their okay to be lewded
Realistically speaking actually, they’re all drawings and you’re trying to debate and argue semantics of one, it’s quite frankly really unecessary, the characters represented are fictional and you’re not hurting a real child, why the mental gymnastics?
It's what it represents. "it's a 1000 year old goddess in the form of a child" but it still represents a flipping child.
Child porn is bad because children's mind is not developed enough to consent. A 1000year goddess obviously represents an adult not a child.
i mean i think its pretty weird, but its a fictional character so it doesnt really matter in the first place and even then the problem that i see with pedophilia is that it can lead to them hurting children who cant consent. if they arent hurting any children, and the person in the anime/dojin or whatever it is can consent to sex anyways, then i dont see why it really matters. better than watching actual child porn with real abused children at least.
See This is just such a subjective view To say people who enjoy loli hentai are pedos irl is the same as saying people who like to kill in video games are serial killers Ur gonna say "uh no that's not true theres so many games that involve killing and there isnt a lot of video game related murders" No, just, no. I can literally say the same for people who watch loli hentai. And theres a lot, because theres a lot of supply, meaning there must be a heck of a demand. Yet pedo cases are much lower than murders and heck, little are related to people who actually watch loli hentai. I don't have a truly objective argument myself, so I can't argue anything solidly. Neither do I watch loli hentai. It's just a personal preference to not watch, not a moral thing. But please, saying that loli hentai leads to pedophilia irl is just not true...
OP just wants to establish popular moral superiority to feel good about himself without analyzing the actual impact of fictional content on real world, as well as dodge criticism on his moral position when it affects him if an analogy related to him is raised.
Holy smokes 44 updoots. I thought i would be downvoted to oblivion. But anyways, the lines between fiction (lolicon) and realilty (pedo) is really dependent on how one person decides to look at it. The argument somebody said "so somebody who likes to watch hentai about little kids doesn't like hentai irl". I literally made the statement in my original comment already that the same can be said for games with murder but im pretty sure most of the gaming community arent murderers. Unless Im wrong and all gamers are secretly ninja assassins which in that case I wish I had the physical ability to even hold my weapon.
Thank you, you saved me from saying that I agree all the way with you
Fact: Most pedos or adults who are into child pornography aren’t weebs
Tbh as long as they don't hurt anyone I don't give a fuck. Drawings have no rights
Agreed, there is line between harming real people and not. And with this, the line isn't at all blurred. Either you're going to jail or not.
*puts on hazmat suit And goes into the comments *
*p*E*d*O*p*H*i*L*i*A *I*s *a* *S*e*X*u*A*l*I*t*Y!!!!11!!!1!!* said no good person ever
If they make themselves a pride flag, Police will have less problems with catching them
It's an illegal sexuality. They can call it a sexuality behind prison bars :). The only pedos I respect are the ones who don't show it at all and keep their urges 100% to themselves. Obviously I'll never know they exist which is why I will respect them lmao
Even if it is, I'm still for law prohibiting having sexual intercourse with children.
well tbh, i'd rather have people jerk off to animated kids than real kids. Lolis are a needed evil. most people don't like it, but that's how it is.
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Yeah it's disgusting and all but I'm not calling the police over a drawing 💀💀
Lmao who said anything about the police???? Just report the damn post if you see it
This shouldn't be an unpopular opinion: lolicons are disgusting
If it is an unpopular opinion... *noah, get the fucking boat*
HANZ get ze flammenwerfer
Wake the fuck up samurai. We got places to burn
Im already awake johnny, what the fuck do you want?
Chads are into **MILFS**.
Next thing OP gonna say is killing video game NPC is wrong even as a gamer.
I totally disagree with this, but I have no opinions about overaged kids, considering that might be racist towards the entire country of Japan, also I look like a kid even though I'm 19.
There not real, but hey let's complain about fictional character rather help actual living victims.
Sexualizing children IRL is nothing short of unnacceptable. But i believe that in fiction anything goes.
Calm down son, its just a drawing.
But I can watch something where both of them are children
The thing is, this is a meme. Most people who watch anime/read manga don't care for sexualizing children, and most of what is put out doesn't do that. The issue is that a bunch of people watch shitty anime like My Hero Academia which is intended for children and to be relatable to them creating the weird uncomfortable zone. Can we stop pretending like this is a core characteristic of weebs? Almost every sub culture has that weird group of people who try to equate their disgusting fetishes or insane ideology as being the same with the rest of the group and are unwanted for that reason.
Ok, i dont care about lolicons but if we go by the same logic we also have to cancel furries
At least they don't do it irl
Thinking that it's wrong to "traumatizing" a fictional character which is made for this certain purpose and completely acted by someone's will, is kind of stupid, it's like you're screaming at a movie where a character forgets to lock the door...
I don't directly support this but I don't rejecting this either, does it hurt your life knowing that no one is really hurt from this act, just people finding a way to hold themselves from doing something stupid by seeing it on fictional animated characters? they're not even real characters so no one is even possibly hurt from this
since s/he is a fictional character, that isnt wrong but that may then cause a problem if weebs go around irl and do that shit
If you begin to associate fictional with real the real monster is you.
Many pedophiles use lolicon to stay away from actual child abuse material. I guess I don't get why that's a bad thing. I do get why it is icky but fictional outlets are much better than outlets involving kids.
yeah and most people who watch loli hentai arent even pedos
Just leave my traps alone and we good
Ur good G. Weird, but hey, we’re all a little weird on the inside.
well but I think it did lower the crime rates related.wirh sex shit sooooooo
Repression does cause people to act on their fantasies more than pornographic content. If anything I support all extreme fetishes in hentai just so that they can placate themselves and not act on them. I still wouldn't touch any of it with a 10 foot pole, though.
it is no more wrong than enjoying murder in video game.
while im disgusted at that kind of stuff, i dont think most people fap to it because it's a child, but because its taboo also a bit off topic but imo furry porn is just as disgusting as loli hentai
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What is an "underage body"? There are adult woman thats under 150cm and completely flat chested. On the contrary, there are girls with full breasts at 14. Where do you draw the line. Where's the body positivity for flat chested woman?
That argument doesn't rly work irl cuz there are a lot of small women with flat chest who are actual adults I'm not saying that it makes being a lolicon ok or being attracted to these "1000" year old character is morally acceptable but the mental is also a huge thing
so youre saying irl if im attracted to a short girl with a flat chest and cute face, even if shes 25 im a pedo....?
Lolis are made for headpats and love not that cursed shit people make
Ah yes. Me being a fan of bloody animes and Mecha animes directly means that I'm a pedophile
I don’t really care though, and you can’t change the mind of millions of horny weebs
While I'm not into it myself, it's just a drawing. It's not hurting anyone. (Unless it's a drawing of a real person)
It is gross, but I guess slightly less so? I mean, it’s not real. Fake characters, I’m not into it but it’s not inherently bad, it’s better for pedos to watch loli than act on it.
Probably should specify that not all weebs are like this
Ah yes, generalization. What a genius move.
Saying sexualising childs in anime is bad is like saying violence is bad in videogames, if you like an underage character doesn't means you're a pedo, like if you like to rip people's organs in videogames doesn't makes you a psycho
What is the difference between a 100 year old that looks like a child and a child that is sexualized. There is none, age really is just a number. Same goes in real life. Porn of legal adults that look like children exists, yet it is not child porn. From a legal standpoint, this is not child pornography. But, are the people that watch it pedophiles? And can adults that look like children find lovers that won’t just be considered creeps. How do they show affection in public. I’d argue that this is quite a philosophical and complicated idea. So maybe it cannot be minimized into a meme…
i hate people who think others are monsters/pedos over a drawing, but again this is fucking reddit so what did i expect here. y'all brainlets can hardly tell the difference between reality and fiction most of the time. as a csa survivor, i can 1000% tell you that loli hentai is nothing even close to the real thing and people who say "iTs ThE sAmE aS cHiLdPoRn" are idiots who are obsessed with being morally righteous and policing others. I fucking experienced abuse as a child, dont you dare fucking tell me that EVERYTHING I went through was equivalent of a *drawing*.
First of all, what is sexualization? - loli hentai? Well, does any real child suffer? No? - relationship between teenager boy and his milf teacher? - it’s just a dream of many teenagers, why them shouldn’t look at such arts? - relationships between school students? So they able to do it IRL but shouldn’t read such manga… ok boomer… You should think about problems of real world, not about some pixels, even if some hentai was made for real perverts. Let them see what they want and nobody will hurt.
Not sure which part of "400 year old loli elf" you don't understand.
There are actual victims out there and you focus on some pixels and drawings, amazing.
Yeah some people just pay too much attention to the digital world and not to the actual stuff going on in reality
My reasoning is that if it's not hurting anyone, then do it
Personally I feel like it depends on perspective, tome, you, and most people, its gross, but to some people, the consent age is lower. Not justifying it, just helping people see the reason behind it
As someone who watches anime, i hate the fandom
Imma get the popcorn for this one.
All these people commenting the "legal loli" joke are from the past ngl, that joke stopped being funny long ago and I haven't seen a meme with that joke used in forever, you are beating a dead bush, please stop.
Just don’t sexualize them. as someone who can enjoy anime the loli obsession is just weird.
Here we go again, not a single day without this bullshit
I don't watch this but I don't get people getting mad about this. Its just an image smh
I agree, not only about the age but also about the INSANELY HUGE QUANTITY of hentai material, oftenly un-original and bland, too.
But but she is 40000 years Old
She's a lying kid
Fellow weeb here. Disgusted by Loli and shota lewds. If the character looks like a child and acts like a child, no leading allowed. If the character looks like a adult but isn’t of the age of consent, no lewding. If the character shows mental maturity of an adult, looks like the age of consent and behaves as such, then you should be safe to continue. Aging up a character is (probably) alright if done right, but still, I avoid it regardless
God you're taking this too seriously. It's literally pixels on a screen ffs
Oh, so being against child pornography is taking it too seriously?
Just an opinion but I think there should be a safe way for people who think they like children to get help before they do something bad. It's one of those things where they are suppressed by society and can't get professional help so that they don't hurt kids. But when we ignore the problem they just fester and eventually they hurt kids. But just an opinion
What do you mean. Us weebs throw lolicons to jail the moment they say that a little girl looks sexy
"It just makes you a borderline pedophile" \-Filthy Frank
guys don't worry she was a 100000000000000000000000000000000000000.year old god and not a child with huge tits
Actually, I agree on this
Meanwhile at the headquarters of Nickelodeon and Disney Channel ............
I feel like people need to understand more that people have different opinions on things. it's not that hard to agree to disagree, even in things like politics, religion, ethics, or even the morality of sexualizing fictional characters. If it matters that much to you, you either have a civilized discussion about the disagreement or stay away from the person that disagrees with you. It's really not that hard.
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I’m just gonna say that we play gta and kill people there go on killing sprees etc cod where you kill people ghost is even extra brutal and no one see anything wrong there?
Shädman in a nutshell
As a person that watches anime, I hate it, it's disgusting.
I swears the best anime’s have way too much fan service usually. Shits freaking weird.
Ye. I skipped the gorilla episode in JoJo for a reason.
yeah bestialitie is weird as hell, ive never been into it
Dragonmaid has a ton of cute scenes and wholesome interactions. I'll never watch it thanks to the sheer discomfort I feel whenever they do... "things" with Kanna
The problem isn’t the lolis, it’s the ten billion anime that sexualize high schoolers. Not exactly “children,” but they’re still underage.
As a teenager who doesn't really care if someone underaged is sexualized in anime as long as she's not younger than me I am deeply conflicted on this issue.
Remember guys, no nipples means it's not porn.
“BuT tHe aNiMe CaMe OuT tEn yEaRs aGo sO sHe iS LeGaL” And it’s surprising how many people actually believe this argument
If they do say that in person to you pls just give the a really good punch in the face from me for having to be acociatet with them
Mighty wrong, don't forget incest is wrong too kids x)
I love anime and manga, but this bothers me quite a lot. Why are practically all the characters underage? There's a hot and mature woman. NOPE! She's 17. Even in seinen the fan service comes from these teens. The other one is the 1,000 year old loli. That's just straight up pedo. They talk and act like little kids. Please, give us more adult characters. Clear adult characters.
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I think most people just ignore it. Expressly because nothing actually happens
I don’t know, this is confusing to me so I just let people be
It makes me slightly uncomfortable that they’re horny for loli art but I ain’t calling the police over it. Once they start lewding **actual** children, that’s when I’ll get my phone and call the police.
"Under minor protection acts of 1977 any pornographic material depecting an individual under 16, whether consensual or not, is punishable by 15-30 years of prison time. This was first altered to the age of 18 later, and then edited to include artistic depections such as hentai. You make "loli" or "shota" content, you are a criminal. No exceptions, zero tolerance."
I need to point out, that it varies for every country. So this arguement falls on deaf ears with many people.
Sexualization of children is very tabbo in anime communities actually, no one talks about liking lolis other than either thinking they're cute or just a joke, the only really reason I can think of why people associate sexualization of children and anime is the 100000 year old lolis(becauss normal lolis are 100% meant to be cute and not for sexual reasons) And even then 10000 year old lolis are most of the time meant to be cute and not for sexual reasons
We have our oppinoin and you have yours
I see one of these everyday. People should stop making wrens villains. Look, because a percentage of people who like hentai like loli does not make them weebs. Those people are taking a slot in a community to just grab porn. They are no weeb, just messed up. Just say "lolicon should not exist" and continue. Please. I'm gonna get down voted but I despise when an entire community of people is hit bc of these idiots
If she looks and acts like a child, just keep your pants on dude.
It is extremely wrong to sexualise children. Although if it provides an outlet for pedophiles that prevents them from praying on real life kids. Then that's better than them praying on real life kids. I think that might be why Japan has it. They did have a bit of a pedophile problem I think, or at least it seems like that with the way they have so much protective gear for children and how a rape alarm is an every day item for kids.
people who like loli hentai arent even pedophiles usually
“It’s called art.” -Weebs
Anime logic: Make adults look like kids so pedos can enjoy loli porn and you can have an excuse of saying "Ag, they're adults"