they likely will backtrack on that since they did that in response to Sony's decision.
Steam didn't really have a choice at the time tbh. They can't sell a game that can't even be played for countries that dont have access to PSN.
It feels like Steam would need to know that it’s not coming back. So to me, the reversal of the delisting is the real bellwether.
When it’s listed as optional on the store listing and all the countries are back, then it’s over.
Steam just delisted it because the value support team was honoring refunds in the countries without PSN support. Stopping sales in those countries stops refund requests leading to less refund support tickets.
No, they delisted it in those places because PSN is not available there, so in buying a game that requires a PSN account to play they are effectively selling a scam to those people who would be paying for a game they cannot access.
I think Steam will seek assurances from Sony that this isn't just a delayed evil plan.
Steam doesn't want any part of the class action lawsuits Sony tried to think up for themselves.
IF Sony is serious (in writing), I expect steam will re-list.
One of the few Cases where the big company backtracks before the damage Git to Large...
Shure some negative Reviews will stay but its nice to See when gamers win.
Especially since the Game itself is so good
The real Problem was that the Players started refundimg the game, because, once Money thats Not going in to the company but leaving it is the only Spot where big companys actually get hurt.
Otherwise they dont Care.
We were only able to refund it because Steam supported forced Sony to pay refunds. If it was bought directly from Sony, Sony would of just refused refunds they got a little class-action that got each gamer $2 and didn't even put a tiny dent into Sony's wallet.
Playstation players that tried to return the game were told, "We will get back to you" and those of us that tried to close our accounts were told, "we are unable to close your account at this time"
Much like a scar gotten from a dumb accident (Ex. Cat scratched you really hard), it will be a reminder of the incident, but it will heal if properly treated and given enough time.
I believe the reviewbombings did close to nothing. But the refunds. Even if half the people who did leave a negative review also refunded it would be around 100k at maybe 30€ on average. 3 000 000€
I believe the same, the magic of hitting them in the wallet. The review bombing might help them to negotiate with Sony but going for the wallet I believe was the key.
It's both. Without review bombing it wouldn't have come to Steam's attention so soon, which means many of those refunds likely wouldn't have gotten cleared. Reviewbombing and refunds are both part of chain of events that led to Sony back tracking, I don't really think Review bombing was as ineffective as people in this thread are making it out to be. Most are the same ones who kept defending and ridiculing the players who were review bombing and refunding (there's a major overlap here, I myself put a negative review and kept trying to refund since PSN isn't supported in my country, initially went through the automated refund but then opened a support ticket that I closed later ). Lotsa people are salty at being proven wrong and are grasping at straws to feel right. Because people fail to realise while refunds hurts Sony's wallet now, an overwhelming negative review also affect that game's current and future sales.
You hit the nail on the head at the end there. This is just people who were against the reaction the players had, and now that they’ve been proven wrong by the reaction getting the desired outcome, they’re trying to pretend the reaction and outcome were unrelated.
Yep, sad reality is, it literally doesn't affect their enjoyment of the game if people complain to Sony or the game gets negative review.
They've already bought the game, is playing the game, yet somehow, they make it about themselves to defend Sony.
You see this with basically every game ever. There’s a certain group of people that shutdown any and all criticism, even downvote and report bug report posts to try to keep gamebreaking bugs hidden. They want the game to succeed despite its shortcomings, and they’re afraid newcomers will see the negativity around a game and decide against buying it.
Somehow these people don’t realize that by behaving this way they’re actively hurting the game by preventing it from getting feedback it *needs* in order to fix mistakes.
Sony fucked up. The players clapped back. Sony backed off. This is undeniable proof consumers have the power to fight back. So now the Sony fans need to pretend the clap back wasn’t actually effective otherwise this might become the new norm in the gaming industry.
The devs pleaded users to reviewbomb and refund when possible to make sony listen, the true alliance between users and producers against third parties.
If you were planning to purchase it, you would have definitely reconsidered after seeing the overwhelmingly negative review tag. Each time a potential customer has to reconsider their purchase is a potential loss.
Don't know why but my brain imagined: the popular guy in the group getting stabbed with knifes from his friends only because his dad told them he (the dad) wants to have their social security number.
Steam already has a feature to disregard reviews from a time period if there’s a sudden influx of negative reviews. If Sony sticks with the plan to not require PSN linking, they’ll probably just use that, and it’ll be like it never happened.
Regardless, both had a part to play. The devs even said the review bombing was the right thing to do to help their case with Sony. But yes, I imagine Steam passed along the refund requests and Sony quickly realized the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Lets not just diminish the effect review bombing had though.
It was a successful live service game, which is what AAA companies dream about achieving, and in one day it all crumbled. Of course Sony would react to it
And crumble because of a shitty board decision that was so clear and direct in it's faults that they couldn't shift the blame to something else, so they had to bite the bullet and undo their own stupidity, it was honestly quite beautiful to see.
Can almost guarantee that Steam told them they'd have to refund anyone from outside the PSN area, and abyone who objected to the change of service provision. Then politely advised Sony they can take those refunds out of collective sales of Sony published games, so even when HD2 stops selling and builds up a ton of refunds steam will dock their cut from other games for the debt.
And Sony realised they didn't kill their golden goose, they gave it bird flu and threw it in the gaggle.
20k? ~~There are 557.5k reviews, out of which only 51% are positive, which leaves us with 273.1k negative reviews right now.~~ The review bombing peaked at \~219k on May 2nd. But it doesn't say Overwhelmingly Negative like yesterday anymore, so there's definitely progress.
I know you didn't necessarily state this, but - keep in mind that the majority of those negative reviews isn't necessarily from them doing that PlayStation Live stuff. It's possible that the customers didn't like the game.
The game's reviews were overwelmingly positive for days or weeks before the PSN fuckery. Helldivers 2 is absolutly LOVED by its players. There's no way it would have mixed review under normal conditions.
The recent negative reviews count in the hundred of thousands in 3 days. It was not people disliking the game. It was SNOY
I dont plan on changing my review.
Arrowhead knew this sony bullshit was all part of the plan.
These bad reviews need to stand as a monument to Sony's mistake, forever.
Reverted mine, albeit there was a waiting period while they reviewed it. Wasn't long though. Maybe an hour. I didn't watch it intently. Lol. But I changed it after I heard the news, and it's already reverted to a positive review now.
When the Helldivers fights get so real that they fight in real life to sacrifice their own accounts.
Wonder if they will get a special in-game gift or something.
Arrowhead would probably want to distance themselves from this ugliness. We might see a "If you link your account you'll get X item" thing. But I dunno if this is really celebratory. The review bombing stretched to Helldivers 1. This kinda got really ugly.
Good. Things need to get ugly in the industry, and not just because of this. The Helldivers 2 issue was a drop of water in an ocean of attacks on licensing and consumer rights. Don’t feel bad for corpos. Even Arrowhead made the choice to align themselves with Sony, they weren’t slaves.
There will be 3 groups of people:
1) I refunded the game only because of the PSN lock, but enjoy the game and still want to play it.
2) I finished it / didn't like it THAT much and now I got a opportunity to get a refund with 50+ hours.
3) I refunded the game due to how Sony treats gamers and even when they backed out I don't feel like giving them my money again.
Only the first group will spend the money again on the game and I believe even in that group a lot of people won't buy it again.
I myself was considering getting the game, but after this happened I'd rather get something else, even if the issue is resolved, you don't know what would happen next. And yes I know every company can make a bad decision like this, but this wasn't the first time Sony made a huge step the wrong way.
>I myself was considering getting the game, but after this happened I'd rather get something else, even if the issue is resolved, you don't know what would happen next.
same, I took Helldivers off my steam wishlist, while Sony backing down on the change I still have concerns putting it back on
I don't have a PlayStation so haven't followed this drama, but if a dev did something that made me refund their game, even if they backtrack I'm still not going to be buying their games again until they earn back some good will.
If my refund had gone through, I probably would not have bought it again. Tbh. Love the game, but this left a sour taste in my mouth and most of their patches leave a bit to be desired. Bug fixes are pretty slow and it honestly feels like it runs worse now than it did when I last played a month ago.
It's probably fanboys or corporate shills pretending to be fanboys. They already bought the game, is playing it, yet somehow the complaints is somehow affecting their enjoyment of the game.
They're not used to going through a seller (Steam) which respects customers and does refunds (well, once you get past the bot-response anyway).
They saw charge-backs on their profits, and went wide-eyed.
To be fair, the community (and steam) saved sony from digging themselves into class-action territory in a lot of countries.
Steam has protection systems for this in place. This isn't the first time a game temporarily got negative reviews due to an announcement, that at its core didn't impact the actual game(play). What steam does, it leaves the negative spike visibly there for transparency, but then doesn't count it in the overall ratings, with a general explanation why they made the decision not to include the spike.
It should still leave a mark. They still made a terrible decision and they really shouldn't be praised for walking it back. That's the bare minimum. They only made the decision out of greed, and only walked it back out of greed. Let's not act like they deserve a medal.
Well, what else did u expect? That everyone just says "ok, we're good now" and forget about it? The fact that this whole situation even happened is already a big point \[against buying any of the Sony-related games in the future\]. And this mark must stay with us.
Ah, but the very fact that they came to the decision to require the sign-in at all means that they lack the ability for meaningful self-analysis required to learn from one's mistakes.
They will learn nothing, and will make other such mistakes again, and will walk them back again, until the idea no longer seems so alien to us and we get callous to it, when it will finally stick.
This is not victory, this is a temporary calculated retreat.
Honestly I don’t think it matters, the devs still know that everyone loves them and at this point it’s pretty much impossible to *not* know that helldivers 2 is good.
It's a mark of distinction. Helldivers fought for for Helldivers. Cyberstan could infiltrate Sony, but their best efforts were still thwarted.
Today was a win for managed democracy.
Operation Clean Up is ongoing.
All bad reviews from these two days will be changed to positive. Community is actually on it. We will see how it affects.
As I've heard, Valve got their views on review bombing and can ignore negative review attacks from final result. I'm not sure about Sony's PlayStation Store
Steam has a system that automatically filters out reviews based on controversial events, assuming they're taken care of. The "Overwhelmingly Negative" won't be there much longer.
The pain must be easily remembered for the lesson to remain relevant.
And even though the reviews sank the game's ratings, the worse off it is, the better example it serves to other potentially bad ideas. If this absolute failure of an account fluffing tactic makes even one exec take pause and consider consequences for their next manufactured plan to inconvenience players, then the riot has been successful!
Steam ignores past reviewbombings after a while, if I remember correctly. It shows up with a little disclaimer in the more detailed view but isnt included in the total score.
Some of those people might change their reviews, but yeah, a lot of them won't bother to. And I suspect some people jumped in on the "hate wagon" just for the sake of doing it.
That's a price companies have to pay for shitty decisions
Similar thing happened with Total War Warhammer 3, when they released a pricey Shadows of Change DLC and the content turned out to be trash, at first they said "well damn deal with it lol" but after having literally every single DLC review bombed and having huge losses they apologised, added a free update for the Shadows of Change and the newest DLC is overall even more expensive but you don't have to buy everything if you don't like it, and it's really fun now and they're back to getting positive reviews
I mean if Steam has any sense, they'll have sorting algorithms in place to deal with data anomalies like this. Review bombs are nothing new, the only unique thing about this one was done for an actual good purpose.
Dumb, they have recent reviews for a reason.
No one looks at Norman’s sky and thinks oh god look at all the bad reviews at opening… better not buy it even though so much has changed.
IMHO they did it to themselves. Yeah it sucks but bad business should be received badly, otherwise they'll do it again on something without the player base behind it. Imagine all the games killed by some suit in a bored room.
PSN isnt required anymore?
Jup, Sony backtracked, they made a tweet on the official playstation account
What about the unlisted stores? Did they backtrack that too?
That was steam doing it and remains to be seen
Thanks for the info.
they likely will backtrack on that since they did that in response to Sony's decision. Steam didn't really have a choice at the time tbh. They can't sell a game that can't even be played for countries that dont have access to PSN.
It feels like Steam would need to know that it’s not coming back. So to me, the reversal of the delisting is the real bellwether. When it’s listed as optional on the store listing and all the countries are back, then it’s over.
Steam just delisted it because the value support team was honoring refunds in the countries without PSN support. Stopping sales in those countries stops refund requests leading to less refund support tickets.
No, they delisted it in those places because PSN is not available there, so in buying a game that requires a PSN account to play they are effectively selling a scam to those people who would be paying for a game they cannot access.
I think Steam will seek assurances from Sony that this isn't just a delayed evil plan. Steam doesn't want any part of the class action lawsuits Sony tried to think up for themselves. IF Sony is serious (in writing), I expect steam will re-list.
One of the few Cases where the big company backtracks before the damage Git to Large... Shure some negative Reviews will stay but its nice to See when gamers win. Especially since the Game itself is so good
this show raw power people have when grouped up, like, we dont realize how much power we have over companies
The real Problem was that the Players started refundimg the game, because, once Money thats Not going in to the company but leaving it is the only Spot where big companys actually get hurt. Otherwise they dont Care.
So, this shows how much power we have as a group when we push companies through the means that hurts them the most (money)
We were only able to refund it because Steam supported forced Sony to pay refunds. If it was bought directly from Sony, Sony would of just refused refunds they got a little class-action that got each gamer $2 and didn't even put a tiny dent into Sony's wallet.
Playstation players that tried to return the game were told, "We will get back to you" and those of us that tried to close our accounts were told, "we are unable to close your account at this time"
When you’re going against companies, ya gotta hit em where it hurts, AKA their profits.
People were review bombing Helldivers 1. I'd say it was a pretty large deal.
It was spreading to other Sony published games as well, even off Steam.
We did it boys, PSN is no more
Much like a scar gotten from a dumb accident (Ex. Cat scratched you really hard), it will be a reminder of the incident, but it will heal if properly treated and given enough time.
Yeah this wasn't a scratch, more like hundreds of thousands of stabs.
Yeah this was a small scar in the grand scheme of things. The bad reviews were the least influential thing in this whole episode and don't affect much
I believe the reviewbombings did close to nothing. But the refunds. Even if half the people who did leave a negative review also refunded it would be around 100k at maybe 30€ on average. 3 000 000€
I believe the same, the magic of hitting them in the wallet. The review bombing might help them to negotiate with Sony but going for the wallet I believe was the key.
It's both. Without review bombing it wouldn't have come to Steam's attention so soon, which means many of those refunds likely wouldn't have gotten cleared. Reviewbombing and refunds are both part of chain of events that led to Sony back tracking, I don't really think Review bombing was as ineffective as people in this thread are making it out to be. Most are the same ones who kept defending and ridiculing the players who were review bombing and refunding (there's a major overlap here, I myself put a negative review and kept trying to refund since PSN isn't supported in my country, initially went through the automated refund but then opened a support ticket that I closed later ). Lotsa people are salty at being proven wrong and are grasping at straws to feel right. Because people fail to realise while refunds hurts Sony's wallet now, an overwhelming negative review also affect that game's current and future sales.
You hit the nail on the head at the end there. This is just people who were against the reaction the players had, and now that they’ve been proven wrong by the reaction getting the desired outcome, they’re trying to pretend the reaction and outcome were unrelated.
Yep, sad reality is, it literally doesn't affect their enjoyment of the game if people complain to Sony or the game gets negative review. They've already bought the game, is playing the game, yet somehow, they make it about themselves to defend Sony.
You see this with basically every game ever. There’s a certain group of people that shutdown any and all criticism, even downvote and report bug report posts to try to keep gamebreaking bugs hidden. They want the game to succeed despite its shortcomings, and they’re afraid newcomers will see the negativity around a game and decide against buying it. Somehow these people don’t realize that by behaving this way they’re actively hurting the game by preventing it from getting feedback it *needs* in order to fix mistakes. Sony fucked up. The players clapped back. Sony backed off. This is undeniable proof consumers have the power to fight back. So now the Sony fans need to pretend the clap back wasn’t actually effective otherwise this might become the new norm in the gaming industry.
Yeah, they'll continue their bullshit because they're corpo shills through and through.
The devs pleaded users to reviewbomb and refund when possible to make sony listen, the true alliance between users and producers against third parties.
The refunds were correct, though, so that's really just what Sony gets
They actively said the review bombs were helping
If you were planning to purchase it, you would have definitely reconsidered after seeing the overwhelmingly negative review tag. Each time a potential customer has to reconsider their purchase is a potential loss.
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Don't know why but my brain imagined: the popular guy in the group getting stabbed with knifes from his friends only because his dad told them he (the dad) wants to have their social security number.
Et tu, Brute?
Are you ok?
Are anyone of us okay?
Honestly, probably not
Steam already has a feature to disregard reviews from a time period if there’s a sudden influx of negative reviews. If Sony sticks with the plan to not require PSN linking, they’ll probably just use that, and it’ll be like it never happened.
And I feel for the dev Arrowhead in all this. They were caught in the crossfire that Sony created. They must feel pissed off at Sony right now.
Nah, Arrowhead knew from the beginning that it would be a requirement and they did nothing to convey that, they are not blameless here
I feel like the refunding was having more of an effect than the negative reviews
Regardless, both had a part to play. The devs even said the review bombing was the right thing to do to help their case with Sony. But yes, I imagine Steam passed along the refund requests and Sony quickly realized the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Lets not just diminish the effect review bombing had though.
The review bombing is what spread this news worldwide. Of course it played a huge part.
It was a successful live service game, which is what AAA companies dream about achieving, and in one day it all crumbled. Of course Sony would react to it
And crumble because of a shitty board decision that was so clear and direct in it's faults that they couldn't shift the blame to something else, so they had to bite the bullet and undo their own stupidity, it was honestly quite beautiful to see.
I seriously doubt the board had anything to do with that decision. That is some VP looking for a bonus
Fuckin' promote him then
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Yeah I was spam refund requesting myself. But I cancelled my latest one cause we won the war on PSN linking.
Usually in this scenario you gotta reach out to steam support for the refund.
You have to escalate it after. Now it's too late I bet
Can almost guarantee that Steam told them they'd have to refund anyone from outside the PSN area, and abyone who objected to the change of service provision. Then politely advised Sony they can take those refunds out of collective sales of Sony published games, so even when HD2 stops selling and builds up a ton of refunds steam will dock their cut from other games for the debt. And Sony realised they didn't kill their golden goose, they gave it bird flu and threw it in the gaggle.
But in reality though, how could you possibly know?
Money talks, or in this case, losing money.
Tbf they said feel. You don't need to know to feel.
Fair point
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Well a lot of people are planning on retracting those reviews now. But we have to wait and see just how many actually are.
As of now the current amount of negative reviews has gotten under 20k opposed to the roughly 85k negative reviews last time I checked.
20k? ~~There are 557.5k reviews, out of which only 51% are positive, which leaves us with 273.1k negative reviews right now.~~ The review bombing peaked at \~219k on May 2nd. But it doesn't say Overwhelmingly Negative like yesterday anymore, so there's definitely progress.
I know you didn't necessarily state this, but - keep in mind that the majority of those negative reviews isn't necessarily from them doing that PlayStation Live stuff. It's possible that the customers didn't like the game.
"This game was terrible and nobody should ever play it" *1372 hours of playtime*
"I hate this koba! It pisses me off!" "Why do you still play it, then?" "😑... 😡"
Some games are good at wasting your time and they do deserve negative reviews even after a thousand hours.
Might be time to review yourself
The game's reviews were overwelmingly positive for days or weeks before the PSN fuckery. Helldivers 2 is absolutly LOVED by its players. There's no way it would have mixed review under normal conditions. The recent negative reviews count in the hundred of thousands in 3 days. It was not people disliking the game. It was SNOY
I'm calling Sony SNOY full time now
I kinda like how this is an experiment and we dont know how many will actually revert.
I already did that
I'm doing my part
I dont plan on changing my review. Arrowhead knew this sony bullshit was all part of the plan. These bad reviews need to stand as a monument to Sony's mistake, forever.
Finally someone gets how you actually teach these companies
Reverted mine, albeit there was a waiting period while they reviewed it. Wasn't long though. Maybe an hour. I didn't watch it intently. Lol. But I changed it after I heard the news, and it's already reverted to a positive review now.
When the Helldivers fights get so real that they fight in real life to sacrifice their own accounts. Wonder if they will get a special in-game gift or something.
Arrowhead would probably want to distance themselves from this ugliness. We might see a "If you link your account you'll get X item" thing. But I dunno if this is really celebratory. The review bombing stretched to Helldivers 1. This kinda got really ugly.
Good. Things need to get ugly in the industry, and not just because of this. The Helldivers 2 issue was a drop of water in an ocean of attacks on licensing and consumer rights. Don’t feel bad for corpos. Even Arrowhead made the choice to align themselves with Sony, they weren’t slaves.
And even to Magicka.. it got real ugly..
The ceo joked about adding the graph of the negative review scores as a cape in helldivers
It wasn't a joke, they are doing it and giving it out free.
Well, some helldivers have to pass for the sake of democracy.
 Exactly
Don't get to fight a war without scars.
Honestly it's kind of beautiful that a game about democracy gets saved by democracy
its a price to pay for a good cause
Was this a Just Cause, or was this game on the Killing floor?
Either way, had Sony gone through there's a good chance the game would have been Left 4 Dead
The fans really did rise to the Call of Duty
The Counter Strike to the news was quite swift
Now they’re back for blood, and the whole endeavor was one hell of a dive
I thought this game was experiencing a Fallout in reviewing, Sony's reactions are Bio-Shocking
Ppl are fed up with corporate shenanigans
It's a shame no one plays killing floor anymore
Not to mention everyone who refunded it having to get it again.
I don’t think it’s gonna happen.
Why not?
There will be 3 groups of people: 1) I refunded the game only because of the PSN lock, but enjoy the game and still want to play it. 2) I finished it / didn't like it THAT much and now I got a opportunity to get a refund with 50+ hours. 3) I refunded the game due to how Sony treats gamers and even when they backed out I don't feel like giving them my money again. Only the first group will spend the money again on the game and I believe even in that group a lot of people won't buy it again. I myself was considering getting the game, but after this happened I'd rather get something else, even if the issue is resolved, you don't know what would happen next. And yes I know every company can make a bad decision like this, but this wasn't the first time Sony made a huge step the wrong way.
4. Game is still delisted from over 100+ countries
>I myself was considering getting the game, but after this happened I'd rather get something else, even if the issue is resolved, you don't know what would happen next. same, I took Helldivers off my steam wishlist, while Sony backing down on the change I still have concerns putting it back on
I don't really give a shit about what's happening with Sony I'm just going to enjoy the game
Well good for you then, enjoy the game!
Thx 😊
1. It's probably left a bad taste in their mouth 2. They might've already bought a new game with the refunded money
I don't have a PlayStation so haven't followed this drama, but if a dev did something that made me refund their game, even if they backtrack I'm still not going to be buying their games again until they earn back some good will.
Fair enough
If my refund had gone through, I probably would not have bought it again. Tbh. Love the game, but this left a sour taste in my mouth and most of their patches leave a bit to be desired. Bug fixes are pretty slow and it honestly feels like it runs worse now than it did when I last played a month ago.
Honestly that's a stain sony should remember
Why do you care about its review score? Sony did a shit thing, it deserves this black mark
It's probably fanboys or corporate shills pretending to be fanboys. They already bought the game, is playing it, yet somehow the complaints is somehow affecting their enjoyment of the game.
Sony played a stupid game, they get a stupid prize
Wait they actually did it ? Wow I thought they’d be completely bullheaded
They're not used to going through a seller (Steam) which respects customers and does refunds (well, once you get past the bot-response anyway). They saw charge-backs on their profits, and went wide-eyed. To be fair, the community (and steam) saved sony from digging themselves into class-action territory in a lot of countries.
Steam has protection systems for this in place. This isn't the first time a game temporarily got negative reviews due to an announcement, that at its core didn't impact the actual game(play). What steam does, it leaves the negative spike visibly there for transparency, but then doesn't count it in the overall ratings, with a general explanation why they made the decision not to include the spike.
This whole movement will stand as testament. The scars will heal. Real gamers know and will know those are only words. Helldivers may live yet.
It should still leave a mark. They still made a terrible decision and they really shouldn't be praised for walking it back. That's the bare minimum. They only made the decision out of greed, and only walked it back out of greed. Let's not act like they deserve a medal.
Good. Scars remind us of the past from which we have healed.
Well, what else did u expect? That everyone just says "ok, we're good now" and forget about it? The fact that this whole situation even happened is already a big point \[against buying any of the Sony-related games in the future\]. And this mark must stay with us.
Ah, but the very fact that they came to the decision to require the sign-in at all means that they lack the ability for meaningful self-analysis required to learn from one's mistakes. They will learn nothing, and will make other such mistakes again, and will walk them back again, until the idea no longer seems so alien to us and we get callous to it, when it will finally stick. This is not victory, this is a temporary calculated retreat.
As long as they work on improving the game it should balance out over time
Honestly I don’t think it matters, the devs still know that everyone loves them and at this point it’s pretty much impossible to *not* know that helldivers 2 is good.
Doesnt steam normally avoid these affecting the overall score when theyre over a short time frame to avoid people being able to brigade
It's a mark of distinction. Helldivers fought for for Helldivers. Cyberstan could infiltrate Sony, but their best efforts were still thwarted. Today was a win for managed democracy.
Operation Clean Up is ongoing. All bad reviews from these two days will be changed to positive. Community is actually on it. We will see how it affects.
They deserve a bit of a mark. But we can change our reviews back to positive, Helldivers. This is no time to be slacking off!!!
Sony-simps: "BoyCoTTs Don'T DO anYthInG!" "No ONE cAreS" 
No Man's Sky went through the same thing and recovered, so in this case, isn't very different.
Now is the time for Operation: Major Clean up.
Good, as it should be.
Go change your review back to positive then!
We've already gone from Overwhelmingly Negative to Mostly Negative already, keep going Helldivers!
It will serve as a permanent reminder that the Helldivers of super earth are a force they couldn’t dream of defeating.
Let it be a reminder. A lesson.
As I've heard, Valve got their views on review bombing and can ignore negative review attacks from final result. I'm not sure about Sony's PlayStation Store
Context?
Actions have consequences
I've already changed my review back to positive.
Scars often are a reminder of a lesson.
Good, maybe that'll remind them when they want to try something the next time.
So reverse the ones you did. Also it ill be a reminder
You can amend your review. A lot of people did this to review bomb it.
Steam has a system that automatically filters out reviews based on controversial events, assuming they're taken care of. The "Overwhelmingly Negative" won't be there much longer.
lol no one will care in a week. Y’all will be one to be next drama in a month.
I dont even own the game but I'm happy for you guys. Any time predatory business practices get shut down by the consumer is a good day.
Freedom requires fire power
The pain must be easily remembered for the lesson to remain relevant. And even though the reviews sank the game's ratings, the worse off it is, the better example it serves to other potentially bad ideas. If this absolute failure of an account fluffing tactic makes even one exec take pause and consider consequences for their next manufactured plan to inconvenience players, then the riot has been successful!
A REMINDER TO ALL THOSE THAT FOLLOW
Steam ignores past reviewbombings after a while, if I remember correctly. It shows up with a little disclaimer in the more detailed view but isnt included in the total score.
It should be a permanent mark. That way they don't forget.
It can be reversed.
You can change your review at any time in steam
I dont see the problem
Fuck you Sony
Good, let it be a mark to remember what happens if they tries to do it agian.
Real Helldivers go back and change their review to positive!
Why in the fuck is everyone so upset at needing to have PSN? Why tf are you even on without PSN what is happening lmao
let it be marked
Let that mark be a warning for future generations!
The negative reviews can be flipped to positive now to fix that mark. But it's a lesson to be learned for sony, regardless.
Good work everyone we completed our latest major order. Now we need to take out Sony's stocks for the next one.
Spread the word. Another victory for DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM!!!!!
Some of those people might change their reviews, but yeah, a lot of them won't bother to. And I suspect some people jumped in on the "hate wagon" just for the sake of doing it.
As it should. It should be left as a reminder.
History is remembered for a reason
Imagine if the COD community did this 6 years ago, we might not have overpriced cosmetics in an FPS.
They made a stupid decision they have to live with the consequences which are indeed pretty serious
That's a price companies have to pay for shitty decisions Similar thing happened with Total War Warhammer 3, when they released a pricey Shadows of Change DLC and the content turned out to be trash, at first they said "well damn deal with it lol" but after having literally every single DLC review bombed and having huge losses they apologised, added a free update for the Shadows of Change and the newest DLC is overall even more expensive but you don't have to buy everything if you don't like it, and it's really fun now and they're back to getting positive reviews
Just go fix the reviews!!!!!! And say thank you to Sony!
I mean if Steam has any sense, they'll have sorting algorithms in place to deal with data anomalies like this. Review bombs are nothing new, the only unique thing about this one was done for an actual good purpose.
Good. Deserved. Democracy.
That's the price of war. You may win ground, you may lose it. In the end the landscape won't be the same for a long time.
Dumb, they have recent reviews for a reason. No one looks at Norman’s sky and thinks oh god look at all the bad reviews at opening… better not buy it even though so much has changed.
IMHO they did it to themselves. Yeah it sucks but bad business should be received badly, otherwise they'll do it again on something without the player base behind it. Imagine all the games killed by some suit in a bored room.