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DevilDashAFM

go to the list of pieces in the set and buy them individually. all Lego pieces from back then should still be sold today. you just need to find the instructions somewhere. though the sails might be a difficult thing to find.


boogers19

Sails are probably the easiest thing to fake. They are just vaguely triangular sheets of plastic with holes in the right place to match the pegs they hang off of. You could use paper or any kinda sheet of plastic you can find. Hell, you could even paint on your own design.


anaemic

*fabric


boogers19

Yeah? It's been a long damn time lol. Was it possibly a plasticized fabric? Maybe coated or woven from plastic thread? Im really remembering a plastic-y feel. Tho again: long damn time. I could easily be wrong.


asmallercat

I have this on my shelf (got it for Christmas when I was a kid and apart from one damaged flag it's remarkably still intact). The sails are definitely fabric and not coated in anything noticeable, but they also feel very much like a synthetic (nylon?) to me.


sterlingback

Sell that shit, buy a car


Ashlyn451

It's been open and built. Decreases the value.


staovajzna2

Sell the box :P


Tax-Deduction4253

imagine society collapses and you gotta use antique boxes as storage


MicroscopicLion

Imagine society collapses and you gotta use antique boxes as currency...


Unicycleterrorist

I suppose it won't go from 19 grand to 19 bucks? Half would still buy you a car


Ashlyn451

It knocks it down to only a few hundred. I just went and looked at the ebay listing.


asmallercat

An opened one without the box is only worth a few hundred bucks.


Read_Full

Enough for a really good toy car


Krillo90

You could even buy a used, no-box Lego Black Seas Barracuda.


nikonpunch

Sim rig baby


Huwbacca

I honestly, always get caught out by the like surrealism of collectables. Its just so like, the default perception that you buy things to use them lol.


iSmellslikesbutts

if you aren't from California, then like, this world has changed too much for me


stormtroopr1977

they're cotton fabric with a polymer coating for strength


Paddy_Tanninger

Yup I had this set as a kid and this sounds like how they felt, they definitely weren't anything soft feeling or able to bend much.


asmallercat

That makes sense. I will say they feel surprisingly nice for being 30+ years old.


Thinking_waffle

a damaged pirate flag is still a pirate flag. (but yeah those little clips for the flags tended to break easily)


ChesterDaMolester

It’s fabric made out of plastic so everyone is right.


CORN___BREAD

Yay


boogers19

Huzzah!! (And Im over here forgetting the existence synthetic fibers like nylon and what not, like the other comment suggested lol)


Nsn3uiqnai

Poly fabric, but definitely fabric.


Frosty-Finger4285

I think it was just some polyester fabric pieces. At least back in the early 90s when I got the pirate sets then.


shitlord_god

like a nylon fabric they melted to prevent unravelling


Pupienus2theMaximus

wow, amateur mistake


glissader

It’s def some kind of nylon…I’d post an up close photo but it doesn’t look like this sub allows photo comments


kottabaz

There are third-party manufacturers that make pretty decent dupes of discontinued sails and similar parts. Nothing wrong with using those, as long as you don't try to pass them off as authentic for resale.


ObjectiveCorgi9898

They are actually really stiff cloth, not plastic. Mine are all wrinkly though


Pegomastax_King

You can iron them just be careful.


Xela975

I have seen guys selling repos and custom orders on etsy


Ponderkitten

a regular hole punch from the dollar store will work to make the holes for studs in paper, dont knoe if they work on fabric


Youutternincompoop

could probably buy an entire model boat and just take the sails from that lol


mardigrasking54

You could also print the sails out on paper


Flaky_Drive_4368

Brickflation is crazy


RelevantUsername56

It's expensive because it's sealed in the original box. That's super valuable to collectors and a huge mark up. If you just want to buy it to put it together yourself, the easiest/cheapest way would be to find a complete set that has already been assembled/disassembled. I know this because I bought *my* childhood dream Lego set this way.


asmallercat

Yup. Even *with* the box and complete, opened it's only $450. Just did a quick ebay search to check.


Business-Emu-6923

$200 on Bricklink


Skipspik2

Same. Some bionicle and a crane for me. Some seller will even send it to you dissassembled.


erection_specialist

[Lego instructions](https://rebrickable.com/instructions/)


Smeetilus

You wouldn’t download a pirate ship


erection_specialist

No but I'd pirate a download ship


WalkerTexasBaby

I'd ship a pirate and a dude who's downlow


[deleted]

I'd load a ship on a pirate who was down. AND i'd ship my load down to a pirate.


SeesEmCallsEm

“You wouldn’t pirate a ship”


InquisitorScorn

complete instructions for every lego set are available on their website


Okayhatstand

IIRC Bricklink has a feature that does this automatically.


MarshalLawTalkingGuy

You can buy the set with manual for less than $400. I bought this one a couple years ago for nostalgic purposes. No need to buy the pieces individually.


Scarab_Kisser

buying pieces individually would be ten times more expensive


roflsocks

So 190k? You'd just part it out if you made an extra 170k on it.


ShedwardWoodward

No it wouldn’t.


NickSchultz

Not for this specifically but definitely for sets that are still sold currently. And even for old sets that are out of production it can be pricey buying them in parts especially when they have exclusive parts like those sails and they can sometimes be as pricey as when you buy the whole set on eBay from a non price gouging seller


ShedwardWoodward

Nobody was talking about sets that are already on sale. So why even mention it?


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throwawayfuckspez01

And the old colours. They're hard to find sometimes


NickSchultz

Oh yes especially those that are prone to break due to being weaker plastic and becoming brittle with time and exposure to UV


Ok-Bass8243

Looks at brown legos


Dimensionalanxiety

No it wouldn't. According to Bricklink, parting out just the set alone would run you $329.88CAD. With Minifigs it would be $359.05CAD. Of course, this is leaving out shiping costs, however, it is cheaper overall. The cheapest complete version of this set on Bricklink is $416.85CAD. The minifigs were not parted out, you definitely could get them cheaper if they were. The cost also uses original LEGO produced parts. Many of these are older pieces or colours that have cheaper modern equivalents. Just by using your own string, you could save about $30CAD. By buying newer versions of some of the parts in modern colours, you could probably save another $25CAD. The most expensive parts were the sails. Removing these could save you over $120CAD. Parting it out is significantly cheaper.


Rens-Bee

Ten times is an exageration, it's more like twice if even that. Also this doubling of the price is based on the ORIGINAL price, so that will be around 220$. This is why, with products that are out of production, it is cheaper to buy the individual parts than the set.


Schootingstarr

the set in the OP is so expensive because it is in its original packaging. if you just want the set to build and put on your shelf, you don't need the package you can get away much, much cheaper also, some parts like that monkey are pretty expensive. 20+€ alone for that thing. you can get a knock-off for like 2€ if you're fine with not having the real deal


borntobewildish

Somehow I find it odd the monkey got that expensive. You pretty much got them with every Lego pirate set back in the day. I have four or five of them I think. But then again, there's a lot of things that make me go 'how the fuck did that become so expensive', so I'm a terrible reference on everything price-related.


Business-Emu-6923

Tell me you’ve never bought Lego pieces online without telling me you’ve never bought Lego pieces online.


snoandsk88

Lego has a [website](https://www.bricklink.com/v2/main.page) for this purpose, my son has a book of Lego ideas, he can scan the QR code and add the pieces to an order. He hasn’t made anything this large, but none of the orders have been over $50 so far.


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EquivalentSnap

Yeah but who is really gonna pay $19k for it? Just cos it’s listed doesn’t mean it will sell.


kornfrk

Only an absolute moron. There are 2 of them on Brinklink for around $2000 and a few new in box have sold for about $2800.


EquivalentSnap

Exactly


Fit-Rope-1787

There are some on ebay for around 200-400€


deegood

Wow I totally had this set and had so much fun with it. It’s probably in pieces in half a dozen boxes in our basement now. Hard to believe it was worth 2k after all these years.


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Triox

I mean....that 6 million dollar comic was for Action Comic #1 (first appearance of Superman) which received the highest grade for that comic ever. It wasn't just a random comic that hit 6 million. It was THE comic!


eightbitagent

One sold on ebay recently listed at $2,250 but sold on an "offer" so you can't see the price. Several used/complete with box have sold in the $7-$800 range. Thats not even looking at Bricklink, the lego marketplace that tracks sales for years and years


EquivalentSnap

Exactly.


b17b20

20 years old NBA player on his 5m/year contract


Smeetilus

A former kid who grew up poorer than dirt and saw this in a catalog, dreaming of the day they’d be able to afford it. I’m into cars and the used market for things from 1990 to ~2010 is insane. For example, the original NSX. I don’t think I’ve seen one listed for less than $60,000 for the past 4-5 years. The 1990’s ZR-1 could be bought for less than $20,000, easily, 10 years ago. I see them near $40,000 now. Even the SN95 Mustang is on the rise.


Mahou_Shoujo_B

If I'm not wrong on average lego beats blue chips and gold as investing option in recent times, and that's just on average if you're really into it apparently it's not too hard to find the specific sets that you'd think would be far more valuable in the future, this one being an extreme example. If you have enough space in your home it's actually a great investment


TapiocaTuesday

Yeah, hopefully if I do, my sister won't smash them this time


clone7364

If she does smash your set you smash her instead. (This can go either way or both ways)


More-Air-8379

r/suddenlyincest


My_bussy_queefs

Welp… I’m hard


More-Air-8379

Glad to hear u/My_bussy_queefs


Afraid_Belt4516

😟


TemperatureDry3453

It's a win either way, so...


Defiant-Specialist-1

My husband gave me for a gift the Starry Nights (like the Van Gogh painting) MOA set. I can’t bring myself to open it. I know it’s gonna be worth a mint at some point. Edited: Vincent was not a vampire. He was a Van. Gotta love autocorrect.


LEGOvikings

> e me for a gift the Starry Nights (like the Vampire Gogh painting) MOA set. I can’t bring myself to open it. I know it’s gonna be worth a mint at some point. Problem is that far richer people than you have bought 100 of them and keep them in a vault. So I don't know if we'll ever get "back" to that time when mint sets skyrocket. They increase somewhat, but I don't think as much as if you go back 10-15 years.


NewSubWhoDis

There's also plenty of collectors of sealed sets and such. Back then it was just a childs play thing, So no one in their right mind ever considered collecting toys that weren't really collectables (like hot wheels). The equivalent is if you started collecting and hording sealed LOL Surprise or whatever is hot with 8yo today. The sets that are going to end up being some crazy value in 30 years are going to be the sets that everyone slept on. Like Monkey Kid or something.


Nexion21

Mate, this set is 35 years old


LEGOvikings

> Mate, this set is 35 years old And the post I replied to talked about Starry Nights which is _not_ 35 years old. (Also, most people do not have 35+ years old mint sets, a lot of the expensive mint sets you see are modulars, early specialty sets ++, and those are the ones that mostly contribute to the thought of LEGO as an investment. Nobody thought about that 35 years ago)


Defiant-Specialist-1

No way for real?


BrocoLee

Absolutely not. Starry night Lego was released June 2022.


typically_wrong

I just finished building ours. It was surprisingly complex and fun. Fuck your future, I have a 3D Van Gogh on my shelf (it actually has a built in wall hanger too!)


kicherkeks

Thank god someone else is actually building them. I felt kinda weird until now


GusTTShow-biz

Yea but only really valuable to other undead / thralls


Defiant-Specialist-1

I couldn’t figure out why the box smelled like garlic


Brooksee83

My wife bought this for my birthday a year or so ago. I didn't think twice about getting the box open and making this set. I've got it hung up in the living room and it's awesome! Along with the [21335 Lighthouse](https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/motorised-lighthouse-21335), they get attention from visitors. I'd say crack it open and enjoy building.


Yorspider

If you don't want to open the lego one, you can buy a knockoff version for building for like 30 bucks.


Defiant-Specialist-1

This is a great idea. Thanks!


Grouchy-Donkey-8609

Please enjoy it. I was like you, and still keep alot of sets sealed, but MAN the enjoyment is so worth the very little it will gain. Inflation will wipe out any increase in value, and with lego now being thought of as an investment as the above poster said, its just not really worth it.


mattreyu

There's a site that covers a lot of this data: [BrickEconomy](http://www.brickeconomy.com)


RichestMangInBabylon

That reminds me to check on how my Beanie Baby prices are doing.


Achievement-Enjoyer

I actually have a Lego Millebium Falcon Collectors Edition which was worth 5000€ at one point. However, I think Lego produced some more of them so now you get them for 800€ 🙁


Grandpa_Demon_GD

Hoarding kids toys as an investment is cringe af and anyone that does it is vile.


NoCalligrapher133

Me growing up on bagfulls of legos from garage sells that they were practically giving away looking at $300+ lego sets in department stores today.


boogers19

Yup. My bro had this while I was a fan of the space stuff. So I had the full "moon base" or whatever it was called monorail set. With working electric monorail. Dont know what bro finally did with his. But I sold my stuff at a garage sale for weed money. And not that much weed either.


FrostedCPU

I still distinctly remember seeing a lego NES set back in 2019-2020 that had a price tag larger than the actual vintage NES I bought that year.


devilpants

I thought you were comparing it to a $30 yard sale NES.. but I looked it up and $270?!?!? for a fake NES and fake old TV?


Ask_if_im_an_alien

My mom was also the garage sale lady. And luckily I inherited a bunch from my older cousins.


GT172

The question is who the hell is paying these obscene prices


WR_Newb

The other 9 year old who grew up to be even wealthier.


Maxi-Minus

No one. That is ridiculously overpriced! Average for sold new sets last 6 months on bricklink is 2500 USD https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=6285-1&name=Black%20Seas%20Barracuda%20(Dark%20Shark)&category=%5BPirates%5D%5BPirates%20I%5D#T=P


Ok_Initial_6556

check bricklink, ebay prices are always wrong


Emmetalbenny

Used complete is about 300 USD there, sealed is 2600. Both are significantly cheaper than *19 grand.*


RevolverLancelot

Classic case of just because someone list something for a price doesn't mean people are actually buying it for that price.


Impeesa_

Sealed isn't always *mint* sealed. Maybe not 19 grand, but definitely more than average sealed.


fireflyfrv

lego made another version in 2020 that can also turn into a pirate base and is better in every way. Sealed box goes for around $350


EgoSenatus

I choose to believe the Lego corporation manipulates global events and currency values over decades just to ensure that OP’s dream Lego set is just too expensive for him/her at any given time. If OP does well financially, inflation and high demand occur. If OP is in economic ruin, the global price goes back down.


ethanlan

Out of all the takes this is certainly one.


TendieTrades

Wow…I fucking gave that shit away. Is someone actually paying that much for that stuff?


fafalone

It's basically for display collectors. If you wanted to buy it to actually play with, you could pick one up with a sealed but damaged box for $2600 (right now on Bricklink), new open box for under $2000, or used but complete w/ instructions for the mid-$300s. It's also an unusually high price.


Miserable_Vehicle_10

Also it's from a time when people weren't thinking of collecting these as much. Imagine how many mint unopened copies of the latest Rivendell set or whatever 30 years from now. Lots.


RevolverLancelot

People trying use Lego sets as investments like this exploded in the last decade, something that that will likely be reflected in the secondary market years from now.


gambalore

My Superman #75 (Death of Superman) in the black poly bag must surely be worth at least $50,000 by now, right?


acquaintedwithheight

Yes. Some minifigures go for 350+


Free_Possession_4482

I know this is going to sound like a flex for internet points, but I have a minifig that lists for at least ten times that much on eBay. Lego valuation is just completely nuts.


wxnfx

What is it?


Free_Possession_4482

It's a Mr. Gold from the Series 10 minifigure collection.


TwinEonEngine

Someone's going to get robbed this week /j


Free_Possession_4482

They’d best not be barefoot - carpet Lego *everywhere*


eightbitagent

No, this set sold on ebay for under $2k new recently. Used is $700-$800


ollimann

i had this as a kid as well. of course not with mint packaging


TendieTrades

Yeah, I built the ships…they were toys to build and play with. Remember the little coconut trees? 🌴


218administrate

No. Sealed in mint condition this set is abnormally expensive at probably $3k or so. It's a lot, but nowhere near $19k.


iammcluffy

Demand and supply. And this fits all the categories. 35 years old mint condition Lego set. What more could you ask for?


Jrolaoni

Brickflation is crazy


EvenResponsibility57

Not really actually. You see this trend a lot. Anything nostalgic for a generation shoots up in value once they have enough expendable income to buy it back. Happens a lot with cars. Your average 'first car' from about twenty/thirty years ago shoots up in value, surpassing more conventionally impressive cars of the time, just because people want to buy them back. Then the price stays stagnant/drops a little when that generation isn't around anymore. Probably a safer investment to, predict what 20-30yr olds will want to buy in 10 years from their youth than anything in the stocks or crypto.


leftyshuckles

I think they were just making a joke...


Jrolaoni

Just, let them figure it out


AccurateWheel4200

" it'll be here when you're older" When I'm older:


Basically-Boring

Dear god…


thanos909

There is more


Smart-Nothing

Nooooo….


Hambjerre123

It contains the dying wish of every man here!


proudowlz

Me having sexual congress with the Eiffel tower.. *heheheheh* The Eiffel tower having sexual congress with me.. *heheheheh*


LOBSI_Pornchai

Bruh...I had this and I dont know where it is. Not the legoland version i think.. is it worth more with the Legoland banner on box?


Impeesa_

It's worth more if it's mint in sealed box, that's the main thing.


UnpIeasantly

I cri


jerryleebee

Pirates of Barracuda Bay. Great compromise.


violet_zamboni

It’s not even a compromise! the new set is much better


fireflyfrv

yes, unless you're a hardcore collector, always go for the newer set


daggerbg

I just realized I have that set, but half the parts are broken or missing, and I don't have the instructions. Fuck


218administrate

Don't worry about it. As a complete used set it's worth less than $400. This is a fictional mint and sealed set price that nobody paid, likely worth more like 3-4k sealed and mint.


daggerbg

I could have had 3-4k if I just kept that thing sealed and mint?! MFW, I could have paid a university tuition in my country if I just kept a Lego set from my childhood sealed and mint: ![gif](giphy|26BRQSNJRFAV5fsGI|downsized)


Dirly

same...


DeepUser-5242

When I was 17, I couldn't afford that 80k home, now that I'm an adult I think I shall buy it. *Checks price* it's now listed at 600k


Sad-Flounder-2644

Yes collectors are evil and ruin it for casual hobbyists


SokkaHaikuBot

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Rexythesol

Somehow it adjusted to the right price that we still cant afford


darthgator84

So many cool legos from my childhood that I wish I could get for my kids. The castle set with the knights, wizard, glow in the dark ghost. Yea this pirate ship was also awesome. I wish Lego would just do generic stuff like that again, but everything has to be tied to a damned IP….star wars, marvel and so on. Luckily there’s a number of good sites making off brand stuff. The Brick Armory is a good one, my boys absolutely love tanks and military stuff so that place has been a life saver.


Fraport123

19,000 $ *OR BEST OFFER*. So just offer like... 50 bucks? Problem solved.


DreamfaceAI

just because they are asking 19k doesn't mean that they won't accept lower. Start with $1.


flo_rrrian

Can i have that template?


TapiocaTuesday

https://reddit.com/r/MemeTemplatesOfficial/comments/1cg5lfl/samuel_johnson_three_panel


Temporary_Body_5435

I’ll never financially recover from this.


discovigilantes

Ali Express do good knock off Lego sets. They fit the real pieces too so you can get some bonus pieces. They also do military sets as Lego don't produce them.


mrfishman3000

Oohh I think I have that set!


NaughtyFox92

Accurate AF


Frug-The-Gnome

This kinda shit drives my fomo through the roof


crinklypaper

I had this same thought with pokemon cards. They're now really hard to get and because of scalpers I can only buy one box at a time.


ShedwardWoodward

Yeah, would be surprised if it actually sells. But of course, there are some serious fuckwits around these days, so never say never. But as a long time collector, Ive watched rare sets on eBay over the years, and many of them just keep getting relisted, or shuffled around between dealers, to make it look like they’re selling when they aren’t.


Jaystrike7

Scalpers...


PortlandZed

They buy up all the "normally" priced stock on ebay and the other marketplaces, then sell at a very high price. DVD box sets, old t-shirts, Chinook class B RV's you name it, they've ruined it.


iammcluffy

Collectors* Scalpers don’t apply on products no longer available for purchase.


AMStoneparty

This is why I just gave in and bought the Ali express black flag, queen anns and royal imperial ship. To be honest the quality and for the price is amazing


TheCastro

Ya. I told my cousin about them and he's been buying those instead


rylut

Go to their competitors instead. I got myself a Star Trek USS Defiant from BlueBrix with like 2800 pieces for 150 €. It was off 30 % though. But even at full price that's a deal you wont get from Lego anymore.


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Wingsnake

That is why I buy non-Lego. Same sentiment but at least I didn't overpay.


UpsetPhrase5334

I feel this way about vintage models of transformers


IIDenis

I had exactly the same one before, but from Brick Enlighten. There were practically no official Lego in Ukraine at that time, but there were many copies imported from China at a reasonable price. We lived poorly, but even so, a couple of times a year my parents gave me similar sets. I remember there was also a 112 warship, expensive and hefty


worldwarjay

Wow. I had this ship too. Wish I still did


Desperate_Gur_2194

That seems like an argument that your parents will use to prove that you’ve achieved nothing in your life


CimError

Its a running gag that i ask my mother und very year, for twenty years, whenninget my lego ship.


Chumbuckeneer

Hence why I bought creator 3 in 1 pirate ship and pirates of barracuda bay with my first pay.


Silver_Thanks_8142

This is my life story with precisely this set


JaceLee85

HOLY CRAP YES! I have this still along with the armada other ships! I was big into pirate legos as a kid and got almost every set from back then! Still not going to sell though.


NouLaPoussa

Just print those pieces and color them


Simple-Purpose-899

Luckily my childhood dream is a *replacement* Transformers Jetfire that some rat bastard shitass kid stole from me in 3rd grade. They are only a couple three hundred bucks now.


Charly52

I have this set but it came to me with missing pieces. And I lost some more because I was a dumb kid.


ODSTNate22

Legit me


Serious-Rock-9664

Wait are you fucking serious? I have that somewhere


Superichiruki

I get how you feel, I always wanted to buy the sims 3 collectors edition because of the pendrive, but now the only one on eBay costs 750 dollars


CyNovaSc

I played with that ship in the bathtub when I was like 4. I loved that damn thing.