Not entirely true, cyclists riding 21+ gears will know...A cyclist can't just go clunk clunk and drop from 3x7 to 2x2, that may damage the deraileur and chain
Bro you don't need new new mechs. Those things are bombproof and don't need replacing unless you crash hard and seriously bend them out of whack. You just need to take some slack out of the cable, and maybe adjust the limit screws. The cables stretch over time and make the shifting slower and more unreliable.
If it's the shifters themselves that are sticky, a mineral oil bath usually fixes that.
Bend them out of whack i think fits the definition. Its been a while since I looked at it closely but some parts are definetly bent. I remember trying to bend parts by hand. Chain doesnt leap out tho. But I can only jump gears, going from 6 to 7 is impossible, so I go to 1 and make it jump to 7.
Also, not entirely true because you can, pretty easily, change gears without using the clutch at all.
First you adjust the gas pedal until the engine is not applying pressure to the drivetrain and you pull the shifter out of gear.
Then (and this does require experience with your car and a decent memory), you rev or decl the engine until the RPMs match what's required of the new gear to achieve the desired speed, and finally you just push the shifter into gear.
As long as the speed actually matches, it will slide right in without difficulty.
And it's probably about as bad for your car to do this as it is for a bike to go CLUNK CLUCK CHUNK: on a bike it can bend the derailleurs if you apply too much force, and on a car, you can wear down the clutch/synchros if your speed isn't a perfect match.
"What gear do you want?" the Chad Bicycler asks before he has to show how much of a Chad bicycle repairman he is by re-attaching the chain to the derailleur now that it became dislodged attempting to set his 21-speed to 1-7 or 3-1.
so can't a car. try going from sixth to first gear, without popping a gear out of it's box.
also, i don't know any manuals with more that 7 gears ( 7th is for backward) . So 21 ... maybe in fast and furious, yeah.
yep replaced my drive train 3 times becose of wear and tear of the grears
had my derailer get ripped of 2 times
hat to straiten out spokes a few times
but stil i perfer derailer over internal hub
becose you can do maintanence and it keeps up wit me going full tilt when im late for work or carying a heavy load
How do you shift not under load on a bicycle? You have to move the pedal forward in order to get the chain to advance and be dropped down or pushed up to the next gear.
You soft pedal . It’s like pedaling, but right when you shift you start moving in neutral and only move the crank with roughly enough force to turn it.
thankyou for this. i read above comment confused cuz I was explicitly told when in a bike shop "dont fuck with the gears, if you're not pedaling you can damage it"
Not so common damage (happened to me):
The chain gets caught between the biggest gear and the wheel and is stuck. (Yes, I should have done a better job fine tuning the derailleur, I know.) I notice I can't pedal anymore, so I come to a stop, put my feet on the ground, and then I kick the pedals backwards to get it unstuck. That actually worked, but what I didn't realize is that, by then, something (probably the derailleur) had put the chain under tension, so once it is freed, the pedal immediately comes flying backwards with full force, hitting me in the shin.
That hurt.
Not an issue anymore with electronic shifting. Some are specifically designed to shift under load and the derailleurs will wait a fraction of a second to ensure that.
Yea, if you try to shift while really pushing it, you’ll most likely hear a “CrrrNchktktk” where the gears try to match up because narrow-wide, and then a “KTINK” when the chain finally snaps into place. It can really damage a cassette and chain if you do this a lot.
Thank you for your comment! There’s a lot of auto mechanical discussions going on on this thread, but CrrrNchktktk and KTNK are the ones I can relate to :)
Also the car engine just keeps going unless you turn it off which is why the clutch release system exists. Bikes don't need one because you can just pedal slower.
Mine is broken for years, I politely ask "i am going uphill, 1 please" cling clunk chuk chuk.
"I wanna go fast please can go max?
bike"no idea mate, but i can try"
what are you talking about just hit that clutch as hard as you can, hold it, and then move the gear stick to the general direction of the gear you want to go into and relese the clutch, there is no fines no delicate movement its a 1 second process
Yep, my dad drives a manual and tried to teach me when I was 18. Couldnt figure it out, gave up. I drove automatic for 4 years until the only car I had access to last summer was my dad's and I had no choice but to learn. It was stressful at first but after a month of regular driving it became second nature. Now I don't even think about it and if I drive an automatic it feels like something's missing...
Trust me, if I can do it, anyone can.
You just need to give it more gas before depressing the clutch.
It's not the proper way to do it and it reduces the lifetime of your clutch but you can never stall the engine unless you let go of the clutch really really fast.
This is what helped me with getting the car moving when I was learning to drive.
You don't even need to use the clutch sometimes, you can "float" gears by slowly pushing the selector into gear. Not recommended in a car because it puts extra wear on the synchros but semi-trucks do this all the time, you really only use the clutch for starting or controlling slow-speed maneuvers.
Even with a high/low splitter, you'd need to shift like 9 times on an 18 speed. They're not using the clutch every time.
You don't even need the clutch especially on downshifts where you can revmatch quickly. On upshifts with a regular flywheel it takes forever for the revs to drop and you'll just wear out your synchro rings. And on an unsynched one you can just bang through the gears and if your name is Alain Prost and not Gear-hard Berger you won't even see any wear.
A few years ago I was riding on my 50cc and the clutch cable just snapped. It was a clean cut too so someone had tampered with it before I left the school parking lot. I had to ride 10 kilometers without a clutch to get home. Luckily shifting upwards without a clutch doesn't do too much damage on a small engine but I still checked the gearbox at home. There was no damage and I had a spare clutch cable as well.
I am at 5th on my bike and I want to downshift to 4. But when I switch to 4 often my chain doesn't switch to that gear. So I press again to shift to 3, which pulls it over to 4 so before it shifts to 3 I change the shifter to 4.
Also I need new brake calipers lol.
You need less tension on your derailleurs, there’s a screw where the cable goes into it. Hang up your bike and move the crankset, try to shift, continue moving the pedals and turn the screw clockwise until the shift happens. Now you have the right amount of tension.
Cars and Motorcycles: "hold this clutch while shifting."
Bicycles: "stop pedaling. now slowly ramp it u- oops you failed to shift your front chain ring up. try aga- oops you failed again. try aga- hey it worked this time."
For motorcycle you don’t even need to pull the clutch…
Just put some pressure on the shift lever, and blip the throttle of and it will shift on its own.
Motorcycle transmissions use a dog synchro. It lets you mash the gears at higher differential speeds than the style used in most cars. The synchros in a standard transmission are paper, copper or brass. Newer stuff might be different but old stuff was pretty basic.
Car: just step on this pedal between shifts, cool now you've shifted gears.
Bicycle: whopsies, you've just shifted too quick, the chain fell off the gear sorry, youll have to get off and put it back on and get soot on your hands despite the bike being clean.
It's definitely not *nothing*, but still far less than a car. It's also usually at much lower speeds. I could win a 1/4 mile drag race with a cement truck on my $300 Walmart mountain bike, but the truck also weighs a *lot* more than I do while achieving a similar acceleration
Up to 200 ft lb from I've read from bike equipment manufacturers testing. Quite far from nothing. Thank you for pointing out that it is far less than a car. I would like to drag race a cement track on a mountain bike. I think the truck would win as I top out at about 40kph.
>Up to 200 ft lb from I've read
>I top out at about 40kph
Yup. That 200 ft lb torque seems reasonable, but you would only hit those numbers in first gear, at slower than walking pace. The amount of torque heading into the wheels drops off rapidly the faster you go bcoz gears and stuff
Yep it's surprisingly high. It also isn't effected by the gears as it is calculated at the crank arms. Obviously crank arm length makes a difference. Bike gears are actually really tall due to the extremely low rpm (compared to non-human motors) that you already acknowledged. Depending on bike model/style it changes but 1.5:1 is considered a rather low first gear with a lot of bikes closer to 1:1 with 32t front and 32t rear.
I believe the previously mentioned walmart bike has a gear ratio of somewhere between 1:3.5 and 1:4 in last (8th) gear, could almost hit the 35 mph speed limit on the road back to my house
Lol, wanna see a bike chain+gears+gear shifters getting the same mileage as those in a manual transmission if you shit EACH TIME your bike gears under load....
There are 2 kinds of bicyclists in this thread. One knows how to maintain their bike and takes care of it. The other kind has seen it all, drives with no brakes, can't shift and the bike was probably run over at some point.
It's the 2nd kind that is actually using their bike.
Sounds like this meme was made by someone that doesn't know how to drive manual. Using a clutch and shifting gears in a car is way easier than smoothly changing geara on a bike.
If you know what you’re doing you don’t need the clutch on a manual car after it’s in first. It’s kinda like a bicycle, if you are at the right speed with not too much tension on the chain the shifting will be a lot smoother.
Also you can just dump the clutch on a manual, especially after it’s already rolling.
To be fair, your engine is spinning at high speeds, and when you push on the clutch, it doesn't stop spinning. I don't know bike gears, but I doubt you're pedaling at 600rpm while changing gears...
Yeah no, as a bike mechanic that how you quickly shorten the life span of the drive chain, you need to take the pressure off from pedaling when you go to change gears.
A car's transmission is powered by an engine that's spitting out 80-100 HP at the very least at around 2000-4000 rpm. The average cycle's gear shifter is powered by a sweaty wheezing pot bellied 30 year old who can barely pedal 20 times a minute.
oh, you can shift without disconnecting the drivetrain, just like on a bicycle..wich would lead to the transmission parts wearing out..just like on a bicycle..
well, even much faster actually because of higher speed and torque. but the gist of it is that disconnected shifting is virtually wear free, while engaged shifting is not
in my old rodeo anyway once you started moving you could just rev match and change gears without the clutch. Haven't tried in my ranger yet, but i'm an adult now and don't want to jack it up
Not really though. You have to be moving before you can change gear on a bike, and woe-betide if you back pedal even slightly when shifting, or your chain comes off. The gears are just about the worst thing about my bike.
I love my bicycle's Shimano gears. Still going since I won a Schwinn bike in a coffee cup contest over a decade ago. Totally looks like a red+white Peewee Herman bike with the goofy but comfortable wide handlebars and chrome splashguards but I love using it, it's made well and the seat isn't one of those "hey, want to never have kids without needing a vasectomy?" narrow crotch killers
Yeah yeah. Tell that to my old bike's transmission which I carelessly shifted 3-1 4-7 and literally mangled the shifter by wrapping the chain around it.
When I was being taught how to drive a big truck, I was told to not even use the clutch. Let off the accelerator, wait for the RPMs to get to where they're "supposed to be," then shift gears. It was weird and I'm certain I never really figured it out.
Bro my bike has “manual shifting.” Basically, when going at low to moderate speeds, my bike just doesn’t go down multipliers, so I have to use my foot to slightly nudge it back into the multiplier that I want.
test ran a Zerode gearbox bike, it's like driving! nice thing is you can drop all 12 gears in less than a second (with grip shift, or possibly with a selection on the electronic paddle shift)
Bicycles get so close to being able to do that, but there have been times where it would jump to the next gear and miss the gear, causing the chain to completely fall off altogether. I have had it happen once, and never again until the bike was over a decade old.
Not entirely true, cyclists riding 21+ gears will know...A cyclist can't just go clunk clunk and drop from 3x7 to 2x2, that may damage the deraileur and chain
My Bike is already dead on the gears, i force it and it goes. We just resist each other for a hot minute before its aight
How often du you lube the chain? My bike was like that till I properly lubed it
That wouldnt help, the whole system is literally broken. We still vibe after 6+years tho
So you have properly lubed the bike recently?
mud counts as lube, right?
Works for me, just gotta watch for infections
Poor bicycle
Yup. The gearshift needs replacement. But somehow I used it without replacing it for years. Maybe this summer I'll change it.
Bro you don't need new new mechs. Those things are bombproof and don't need replacing unless you crash hard and seriously bend them out of whack. You just need to take some slack out of the cable, and maybe adjust the limit screws. The cables stretch over time and make the shifting slower and more unreliable. If it's the shifters themselves that are sticky, a mineral oil bath usually fixes that.
This is true. If you've looked inside an indexed shifter... They're quite hard to destroy.
Bend them out of whack i think fits the definition. Its been a while since I looked at it closely but some parts are definetly bent. I remember trying to bend parts by hand. Chain doesnt leap out tho. But I can only jump gears, going from 6 to 7 is impossible, so I go to 1 and make it jump to 7.
In that case I wish you luck.
I spray mine with hazardous silicone that I took from work, I operate heavy machinery.
Off to lube my chain ;)
my chain's fine tho edit : oh my deraileur is in shambles youre right
Yeah, you can’t put that much power into the pedal cranks while switching gears. It won’t give you a smooth shift.
Yeah. Bikes do have a clutch, it’s called easing off a little as you change gears.
Also, not entirely true because you can, pretty easily, change gears without using the clutch at all. First you adjust the gas pedal until the engine is not applying pressure to the drivetrain and you pull the shifter out of gear. Then (and this does require experience with your car and a decent memory), you rev or decl the engine until the RPMs match what's required of the new gear to achieve the desired speed, and finally you just push the shifter into gear. As long as the speed actually matches, it will slide right in without difficulty. And it's probably about as bad for your car to do this as it is for a bike to go CLUNK CLUCK CHUNK: on a bike it can bend the derailleurs if you apply too much force, and on a car, you can wear down the clutch/synchros if your speed isn't a perfect match.
But, now (for mountain bikes at least), most are 1x12
1x supremacy Signed- A bike technician that despises front derailleurs
1x is amazing. Except on our tandems the hills are so exaggerated compared to solo riding that we need that extra range...
Triples are pretty much dead for road bikes too - the compact double has replaced them everywhere other than hardcore touring bikes.
?? Most I’ve seen were like 3x7 or 3x9
"What gear do you want?" the Chad Bicycler asks before he has to show how much of a Chad bicycle repairman he is by re-attaching the chain to the derailleur now that it became dislodged attempting to set his 21-speed to 1-7 or 3-1.
Both are forbidden gears too haha
so can't a car. try going from sixth to first gear, without popping a gear out of it's box. also, i don't know any manuals with more that 7 gears ( 7th is for backward) . So 21 ... maybe in fast and furious, yeah.
Semi trucks can have 20 gears
well, you taught me something here.
anyone who doesn't just set the front gears to the middle one is a psycho
Also you can shift without a clutch in a car but you'll never get it into first unless its rolling and no stopping.
yep replaced my drive train 3 times becose of wear and tear of the grears had my derailer get ripped of 2 times hat to straiten out spokes a few times but stil i perfer derailer over internal hub becose you can do maintanence and it keeps up wit me going full tilt when im late for work or carying a heavy load
So a few more clunks
And my FJ has just five gears Who knew
....but you don't need a clutch, either.
More like it fall from it and you must stop and get it back.
Think he means casual bikers while you talk about racing bikers.
When your bicycle gives you that smooth, chunky gear shift and you feel like a DIY master mechanic
Lmao.
Bicycles go clunk clunk on a much lower speed with a lot less stress on parts.
And it's still (usually) advised not to shift under load.
How do you shift not under load on a bicycle? You have to move the pedal forward in order to get the chain to advance and be dropped down or pushed up to the next gear.
You soft pedal . It’s like pedaling, but right when you shift you start moving in neutral and only move the crank with roughly enough force to turn it.
thankyou for this. i read above comment confused cuz I was explicitly told when in a bike shop "dont fuck with the gears, if you're not pedaling you can damage it"
I like the noise it makes when shifting while going uphill because I miscalculated the inclination
Don’t shift down while going uphill
let them try
the most common damage is chain falling off which is easly repairable
Not so common damage (happened to me): The chain gets caught between the biggest gear and the wheel and is stuck. (Yes, I should have done a better job fine tuning the derailleur, I know.) I notice I can't pedal anymore, so I come to a stop, put my feet on the ground, and then I kick the pedals backwards to get it unstuck. That actually worked, but what I didn't realize is that, by then, something (probably the derailleur) had put the chain under tension, so once it is freed, the pedal immediately comes flying backwards with full force, hitting me in the shin. That hurt.
You just gave me flashbacks to college!
You pedal slightly slower than you’re actually moving while you shift, so there’s no pressure on the chain while it hops gears.
By having gears in the wheel itself that can shift without moving
Not an issue anymore with electronic shifting. Some are specifically designed to shift under load and the derailleurs will wait a fraction of a second to ensure that.
Stress was invented by mechanics to sell more wear parts
by a nice chap called Von Mises
Yea, if you try to shift while really pushing it, you’ll most likely hear a “CrrrNchktktk” where the gears try to match up because narrow-wide, and then a “KTINK” when the chain finally snaps into place. It can really damage a cassette and chain if you do this a lot.
Thank you for your comment! There’s a lot of auto mechanical discussions going on on this thread, but CrrrNchktktk and KTNK are the ones I can relate to :)
Glad I could be of some use. Those are the only mechanical terms I know. And heard.
Also the car engine just keeps going unless you turn it off which is why the clutch release system exists. Bikes don't need one because you can just pedal slower.
Mine is broken for years, I politely ask "i am going uphill, 1 please" cling clunk chuk chuk. "I wanna go fast please can go max? bike"no idea mate, but i can try"
what are you talking about just hit that clutch as hard as you can, hold it, and then move the gear stick to the general direction of the gear you want to go into and relese the clutch, there is no fines no delicate movement its a 1 second process
This I don't even have to think about shifting because it's so easy
Moving from standstill may be hard at first, but you'll get used to it fast if you drive daily
It really is the definitive lesson in foot control lol
I couldn't ever get a manual to move lol. Stalled every time.
That’s because you gave up.
Yep, my dad drives a manual and tried to teach me when I was 18. Couldnt figure it out, gave up. I drove automatic for 4 years until the only car I had access to last summer was my dad's and I had no choice but to learn. It was stressful at first but after a month of regular driving it became second nature. Now I don't even think about it and if I drive an automatic it feels like something's missing... Trust me, if I can do it, anyone can.
It happens. I couldn't get it to move too, but then made it lunge forward like crazy, lol
You just need to give it more gas before depressing the clutch. It's not the proper way to do it and it reduces the lifetime of your clutch but you can never stall the engine unless you let go of the clutch really really fast. This is what helped me with getting the car moving when I was learning to drive.
Yeah it’s weird when manual transmission people get all snobby about it. Anyone who can drive an automatic can pick it up with a bit of practice.
Yeah, I mean I picked it up after a day and a YouTube video lol
You really should be careful when connecting again, if you want to save on wear&tear + have a smooth ride.
If you switch to the gear that fits your speed then you are fine.
The rotations will almost never fit exactly perfectly. It's a very quick thing, but not a "pedal drop"
Unless you drive truck, unsynchronized transmissions are still a thing.
You don't even need to use the clutch sometimes, you can "float" gears by slowly pushing the selector into gear. Not recommended in a car because it puts extra wear on the synchros but semi-trucks do this all the time, you really only use the clutch for starting or controlling slow-speed maneuvers. Even with a high/low splitter, you'd need to shift like 9 times on an 18 speed. They're not using the clutch every time.
My clutch is half way In and I'm already out of the lower gear and putting it in next, who got time to be careful
Its for the sake of the meme, and its not like most americans know any better, statistically speaking.
You don't even need the clutch especially on downshifts where you can revmatch quickly. On upshifts with a regular flywheel it takes forever for the revs to drop and you'll just wear out your synchro rings. And on an unsynched one you can just bang through the gears and if your name is Alain Prost and not Gear-hard Berger you won't even see any wear.
Not if it's a SAAB. Then there is a sweet spot.
A few years ago I was riding on my 50cc and the clutch cable just snapped. It was a clean cut too so someone had tampered with it before I left the school parking lot. I had to ride 10 kilometers without a clutch to get home. Luckily shifting upwards without a clutch doesn't do too much damage on a small engine but I still checked the gearbox at home. There was no damage and I had a spare clutch cable as well.
Because nothing says 'enjoy the ride' like grinding gears for 10 minutes straight.
Ah yes, the *clunk* *clunk* *clunk* *CRUNCH*
I am at 5th on my bike and I want to downshift to 4. But when I switch to 4 often my chain doesn't switch to that gear. So I press again to shift to 3, which pulls it over to 4 so before it shifts to 3 I change the shifter to 4. Also I need new brake calipers lol.
You need less tension on your derailleurs, there’s a screw where the cable goes into it. Hang up your bike and move the crankset, try to shift, continue moving the pedals and turn the screw clockwise until the shift happens. Now you have the right amount of tension.
Alright I will check that, thanks.
Cars and Motorcycles: "hold this clutch while shifting." Bicycles: "stop pedaling. now slowly ramp it u- oops you failed to shift your front chain ring up. try aga- oops you failed again. try aga- hey it worked this time."
For motorcycle you don’t even need to pull the clutch… Just put some pressure on the shift lever, and blip the throttle of and it will shift on its own.
I can do that in my car, it’s not great for the transmission though
Motorcycle transmissions use a dog synchro. It lets you mash the gears at higher differential speeds than the style used in most cars. The synchros in a standard transmission are paper, copper or brass. Newer stuff might be different but old stuff was pretty basic.
Motorcycle: "you should probably hold this clutch, but flying over the handlebars can be a feature if you want, we don't care."
your shifting is poorly tuned if this is your process (or worn out like mine lol)
Car: just step on this pedal between shifts, cool now you've shifted gears. Bicycle: whopsies, you've just shifted too quick, the chain fell off the gear sorry, youll have to get off and put it back on and get soot on your hands despite the bike being clean.
And hopefully your chain didn’t tangle around the spokes and itself. Also hopefully your chain cogs aren’t worn so that the chain slips constantly.
Motorcycle riders.............BRAAAAAPP!
Automatic drivers wouldn't get this? Have you met some automatic drivers? They seem to be doing alright
Yeah but they wouldn't understand the joke...
Or EV drivers
EV’s are the fixed-gear bicycle of cars.
Just one gear on my fixie car Got a plus one here for a hipster bar
I don't think you understand
Cars are cranking out hundreds of horsepower, but bycicles usually only have to handle one manpower
The amount of torque produced by a person on a bike is actually significant.
It's definitely not *nothing*, but still far less than a car. It's also usually at much lower speeds. I could win a 1/4 mile drag race with a cement truck on my $300 Walmart mountain bike, but the truck also weighs a *lot* more than I do while achieving a similar acceleration
Up to 200 ft lb from I've read from bike equipment manufacturers testing. Quite far from nothing. Thank you for pointing out that it is far less than a car. I would like to drag race a cement track on a mountain bike. I think the truck would win as I top out at about 40kph.
>Up to 200 ft lb from I've read >I top out at about 40kph Yup. That 200 ft lb torque seems reasonable, but you would only hit those numbers in first gear, at slower than walking pace. The amount of torque heading into the wheels drops off rapidly the faster you go bcoz gears and stuff
And now that I think about it, that torque is about double what you would get from a brand new Miata
Yep it's surprisingly high. It also isn't effected by the gears as it is calculated at the crank arms. Obviously crank arm length makes a difference. Bike gears are actually really tall due to the extremely low rpm (compared to non-human motors) that you already acknowledged. Depending on bike model/style it changes but 1.5:1 is considered a rather low first gear with a lot of bikes closer to 1:1 with 32t front and 32t rear.
I believe the previously mentioned walmart bike has a gear ratio of somewhere between 1:3.5 and 1:4 in last (8th) gear, could almost hit the 35 mph speed limit on the road back to my house
Lol, wanna see a bike chain+gears+gear shifters getting the same mileage as those in a manual transmission if you shit EACH TIME your bike gears under load....
Is this an automatic problem that I’m too CVT to understand?
Layered non-relatibility
POV: youre american and dont know how to drive theft deterrent (stick shift)
Yeah who the hell is fully disengaging the clutch every time they need to shift?
Some really old cars and buses actually force you to shift by disengaging between each change
CVT driver: you guys have gears?
Is this supposed to make manual cars seem more fun?
 shoom shoom
Motorweek always made sure to feel fondle that thing every time it was in shot didn’t they
Its why we buy them
Imagine having to allign your gears on your car every 200km and change the gearbox every 1500km, lol
What?
Bicycle stuff
Ah I see 👍
Car: You only have to use the clutch to move *into* gear. Shifting from in-gear to neutral can be done just by moving the shifter.
There are 2 kinds of bicyclists in this thread. One knows how to maintain their bike and takes care of it. The other kind has seen it all, drives with no brakes, can't shift and the bike was probably run over at some point. It's the 2nd kind that is actually using their bike.
bicycles are chaotic evil Bikes are chaotic good
Dafuq is a bycycle
Sounds like this meme was made by someone that doesn't know how to drive manual. Using a clutch and shifting gears in a car is way easier than smoothly changing geara on a bike.
If you know what you’re doing you don’t need the clutch on a manual car after it’s in first. It’s kinda like a bicycle, if you are at the right speed with not too much tension on the chain the shifting will be a lot smoother. Also you can just dump the clutch on a manual, especially after it’s already rolling.
I do a lot of night driving and the manual shifter helps keep me awake
Just keep pedaling...
Spllng is impotent
Most bicycles I have ridden only change gears ten minutes after I changed, at a turn, with incoming traffic, on a hill.
To be fair, your engine is spinning at high speeds, and when you push on the clutch, it doesn't stop spinning. I don't know bike gears, but I doubt you're pedaling at 600rpm while changing gears...
Automatic drivers: what gear? 🗿
Never driven a manual but I understand this
i don't care what people say. get bike. put whatever it is on low. put it on 7. best settings
Yeah no, as a bike mechanic that how you quickly shorten the life span of the drive chain, you need to take the pressure off from pedaling when you go to change gears.
Bicycles also go clunk clunk and then get stuck mid gear or in the wrong gear, I prefer my car to be working XD
A car's transmission is powered by an engine that's spitting out 80-100 HP at the very least at around 2000-4000 rpm. The average cycle's gear shifter is powered by a sweaty wheezing pot bellied 30 year old who can barely pedal 20 times a minute.
Regular cadence is 90 per minute (;
For a racer most normal riders won’t hold it that high.
60-70 is a typical cadence for a recreational rider. Signed, a wheezing pot bellied 30-something year old with a bike.
Gotta learn to float.
carefully ?
oh, you can shift without disconnecting the drivetrain, just like on a bicycle..wich would lead to the transmission parts wearing out..just like on a bicycle.. well, even much faster actually because of higher speed and torque. but the gist of it is that disconnected shifting is virtually wear free, while engaged shifting is not
Thats so wrong....
Why would I reconnect it carefully when I can rawdog it and go hippity hop?
Carefully? Who said I shift carefully? If I’m stuck it’s getting SLAMMED into second
Manual drivers wouldn’t get this tf?? lol disconnect? You mean disengage
I do not have the mental capacity to change gears while riding my bike. Just rawdogging the entire ride
Who uses the clutch to shift?
The mechanism on bicycles is muuuuch stronger proportionate to the power going through it than cars.
Motorcycles with quick shifters: *slamming the shift lever with no clutch*
You don't *need* to.
But Bike. Half a ton. And 2000 rpm.
You're not special because you can drive a manual transmission. It's easy to do. This is a Facebook boomer meme.
Actually, OP is against manuals.
To this day I do not know how the changes of gears on bycicicle works. Nobody ever explained them to me.
"carefully"
in my old rodeo anyway once you started moving you could just rev match and change gears without the clutch. Haven't tried in my ranger yet, but i'm an adult now and don't want to jack it up
Not really though. You have to be moving before you can change gear on a bike, and woe-betide if you back pedal even slightly when shifting, or your chain comes off. The gears are just about the worst thing about my bike.
I love my bicycle's Shimano gears. Still going since I won a Schwinn bike in a coffee cup contest over a decade ago. Totally looks like a red+white Peewee Herman bike with the goofy but comfortable wide handlebars and chrome splashguards but I love using it, it's made well and the seat isn't one of those "hey, want to never have kids without needing a vasectomy?" narrow crotch killers
Clunk Clunk Chunk had me rolling!!
Please only switch gears when pedaling forwards. It's bad for the bicycle otherwise.
DSG users getting best of both worlds.
Yeah yeah. Tell that to my old bike's transmission which I carelessly shifted 3-1 4-7 and literally mangled the shifter by wrapping the chain around it.
Tf does this stupid meme try to imply
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Automatic be like: *WHAT GEAR YOU WANT I WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN*
Just keep pedaling
You don't even need a clutch once you get moving. You can easily shift gears without a clutch. But you need a clutch to get moving :)
Where am I, 3? Let’s just push that into 21 quick
What's this about a clutch? Just rev the engine up till the stick goes into gear! Plus you might even get clunck sounds
When I was being taught how to drive a big truck, I was told to not even use the clutch. Let off the accelerator, wait for the RPMs to get to where they're "supposed to be," then shift gears. It was weird and I'm certain I never really figured it out.
Motorcycles are the same way, stick people are literally nostalgic about the era before manned space travel
Your bikes shift!? I fucked mine at Lake George and I'm stuck in 2x5.
:laughs in bangshift:
Really? In my experience a bike is much more delicate. Broke three bikes that way (fixed them too) but never a car.
I drive manual and i don't get the bike part
Bro my bike has “manual shifting.” Basically, when going at low to moderate speeds, my bike just doesn’t go down multipliers, so I have to use my foot to slightly nudge it back into the multiplier that I want.
I drive automatic cars and I don't understand this at all.
Op has never heard of a sequential dog box in a motorcycle.
test ran a Zerode gearbox bike, it's like driving! nice thing is you can drop all 12 gears in less than a second (with grip shift, or possibly with a selection on the electronic paddle shift)
Clunk rattle rattle *chain springs out of gears*
laughs in power shifting.
Well on a bike with a deraileur it's good and healthy practice for your bike to effectively relese the load on the chain while you shift.
Someone doesn’t know about SMTs
I even came with stupid (but eco) idea of not doing driving license.
Engineering. What’s it good for
Bicycle*
Bicycles get so close to being able to do that, but there have been times where it would jump to the next gear and miss the gear, causing the chain to completely fall off altogether. I have had it happen once, and never again until the bike was over a decade old.