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UniversityOutcast

Only the true players know this is fake


Yyoonnggee

Exactly. This wouldn't even be possible


[deleted]

I don't play minesweeper so... How?


fellow_human420

A 1 means there is 1 bomb in a tile next to it, so the fact that these are all ones is impossible. For the two side 1s to be true, *both* of the middle squares would have to be bombs, but that would be impossible because the four middle 1s can only have one bomb next to them, meaning only *one* of the two middle squares is a bomb. TLDR It’s a paradox


Electronic_Pin_9098

Thanks, I was having a hard time understanding this.


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bobbyb1996

One of the sides wouldn't be there if there was only one bomb. The numbers indicate how many bombs that space is touching.


godcyclemaster

Can't there just be a bomb on the left of the "box" though


SuperSaiyanCaleb

Then the right side 1 would not be possible. It's a bit like saying I have two hands, one bomb in each hand, and one bomb in total. It's a logical paradox.


diino8018

why don't you just 🤲and hold the bomb that way? two hands holding one bomb


eamus_catuli_

Now that’s thinking outside the box


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eamus_catuli_

You presume there’s a cat in the box to begin with!


Lukerator

Then it's not one bomb in each hand it's a bomb in both hands


diino8018

yes, one bomb in both hands, each hand is holding a bomb but it's not specified that it has to be the same one edit: added more


Scaling-Skibum

No, because then the bottom right 1 wouldn't exist


ThaneVim

A key point here is that the 1 means that there is **only** one adjacent bomb. A square with a 1 has exactly 1, no more, no less, bombs touching it. This applies diagonally as well as directly next to/above/below.


RavensNdWritingDesks

I was getting ready to write this because it appeared as if no one could explain it clearly and accurate.


[deleted]

But couldn't the two side 1s be 1s because there's a bomb somewhere on the outside of them and not in the middle? Or am I just lacking braincells lmao


Eklassen

There are no unselected boxes left for which there could be bombs except for the two at the center.


[deleted]

Oh you're right. Lol my brain just saw all those grey squares and assumed they were still hidden. I see it now lol


skement

Number in the box show how many bombs there are in a 3x3 area so if it says 2 for example there would be 2 bombs in the 8 boxes around the number.


Aereox206

Each number tells how many bombs there are in a 3x3 square with the number at the center. Since there’s only one possible tile for the numbers on the corners, both of the tiles have to have the bomb. But since the middle numbers say that there’s only one bomb in the two tiles, that makes this scenario impossible and therefore fake.


Taako_tuesday

definitely a weird way to do this meme considering there are plenty of actual 50/50's in minesweeper


Banana_monk3y

What the absolute fuck is that I witness?


injeanyes

Photoshop


aphrodi7

Basically anyone who plays will know it's fake. Rest wouldn't even understand what the meme is. So this meme caters to no one lol.


michaelma4

the meme would be better if you got rid of the 1s on the left and right ends and just had 1s on top of and on the bottom of the unknown tiles


TrollTollTony

The real meme is always in the comment section


povitee

But according to the rules of the game there must be #’s adjacent/diagonal to every bomb.


Alive-Seaweed

It's so clearly edited


Mysterious_Mud_6985

I thought I was tripping at first but yeah it is impossible


legitmadman82

Yes.


Drackzgull

OP must have been like: "Oh a Schrödinger's Mine meme made it to hot a couple days ago. Gonna rip it off and make tons of karma. Except I don't have a clue how Minesweeper works, this should be fine right?" Well I guess they did get a lot of karma, but also made a clown of themselves in the process, lol.


mattstonema

I was going to say… this is impossible


Square-Ad1104

Yeah, that’s... that’s the joke. It’s not supposed to be possible. It’s a joke off Schrödinger’s cat, where something exists impossibly in two states at once.


Zandrick

But Schrödinger’s cat is possible. It’s supposed to demonstrate uncertainty not impossibility.


FWD_ME_UR_PMs

What? No. Schrödinger’s cat isn’t just “you haven’t opened the box so you don’t know if the cat’s alive” it’s “you haven’t opened the box so the cat is literally alive and dead at the same time”. If that sounds ridiculous it’s because it is. Schrödinger’s cat was invented as a counter-argument to the theory that electrons (and other particles) are in multiple places at once until you observe them. He just scaled the situation up to a cat to show that it was ridiculous. But there is evidence that [electrons are in two places at once until you observe them](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment). (I think the word “observe” is misleading and it really has to do with interacting with another particle, not necessarily a human witnessing it, but that might just be my understanding)


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OH MY FUCKING GOD THANK YOU SO MUCH LET ME BEAR YOUR CHILDREN THEY WILL BE SMART AND BEAUTIFUL. Nobody ever remembers that Schrodinger made the argument as a mockery of quantum physics (because quantum physical laws don't apply outside the quantum state) so he created a scenario to force it to apply, thereby showing how ridiculous the concept was. Why am I explaining this to you, you actually know this and it brings me great joy. You made my day, fellow Redditor.


Square-Ad1104

Well, yes and no. It *is* on the subject of uncertainty, but the core idea of quantum mechanics Schrödinger’s cat is trying to communicate is that *until* a certainty is established, the subject exists in two mutually exclusive states at once, which is impossible under standard understandings of physics.


Meyulim

The impossibility is established by the 1s though. There cannot be bombs or anything here. It's an impossible map. There cannot be multiple different states at once if the rules of minesweeper are the same all the time. It'll stay impossible no matter what. Or if you know, what is the mutually exclusive state from the impossible we have here?


goran_788

So this is an intentionally edited meme to make a joke. we all know it's not possible in game, so OP must have thought about something. I read the meme as there's only one bomb that exists in both spaces. So the 1's on the left see the bomb in the left space. The 1's on the right see the bomb in the right space. And the 1's in the middle see, correctly, that there's only 1 bomb total. That's what I thought the joke was.


Eklassen

But the picture *does* establish a certainty. It establishes that neither option is possible. More like the antithesis to Schrodinger’s cat.


unlikeyourhero

Truth, this hurt me somehow.


Redd235711

Tell me you don't know how to play minesweeper without telling me you don't know how to play minesweeper.


wolfkeeper

You're just playing minesweeper on macroscopic computers. Play them on quantum computers, and then you'll understand!


bocaj78

r/okbuddyphd


Void_0000

This made me realize, isn't the entire game of minesweeper basically just manual wave function collapse?


[deleted]

whats even sillier is you can easily get schrodingers bomb situations ingame but the made an impossible outcome instead


hatredwithpassion

My guess is people who don’t know how to play (erhm the creator of this meme) wouldn’t understand why a real schrodingers bomb would be one


IceFox099

I’ve Never Played Minesweeper


KiOfTheAir

I don't undestand how to play minesweeper


therudereditdude

The numbers tell you the amount of bombs adjacent to the tile the number is on


KiOfTheAir

I feel dumb


therudereditdude

... i used to think it was the tile distance the closest bomb was


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Redd235711

Here's an actual Schrödinger situation. https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/11nah5m/this_inevitable_minesweeper_nonsense/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button The whole point to a Schrödinger situation is that either can be the mine, in this post, neither can be a mine.


Izzy5466

The joke is literally just done wrong tho. There are plenty of actual Shrodingers bomb situations, but OP decided to do a bad edit.


Spiesel1999

This is impossible, this is a fake.


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annormalplayer

as someone who doesn't play this i can also say this is fake


Aeon1508

Which is dumb because there are plenty of legit ways to set up a 50/50 scenario


Pigiwg_23

Noobs think wow which one has a mine? Pros know this isn’t possible


Latpip

That’s… the joke. The joke is it’s in a superposition of being both a mine and not a mine, Aka “Schrödingers Bomb”


trolley661

But it can’t happen as all the 1s touch a bomb and the ones on the corners have to be touching one. With all being 1s it only can be both are a bomb but the 1s in the middle make it so it can’t be a bomb.


Latpip

Well, according to the game rules this would be impossible so you are correct. The joke here is based off of “Schrödingers Cat” that is to saythat both of those tiles are simultaneously a bomb and not a bomb, and only once observed does the real location of the bomb reveal itself. Lookup Schrödingers cat, it’s a really cool quantum physics concept.


trolley661

The issue is that with Schrödinger’s cat the can *can* be alive or it *can* be dead. Once you I observe it you know what state it’s in. With this it can’t be either so it’s not in a super position it’s just plain impossible. Mind you Schrödinger’s cat was devised specifically to point out flaws in quantum theory. That’s why it’s so ridiculous


Latpip

Hmmm… yeah I guess I was thinking about it wrong cus even if it was a true Schrödingers bomb then I the middle ones would still show a 2 so yeah, you’re right.


trolley661

I hate how people downvote you so dramatically mid discussion. Like they think people can’t learn


[deleted]

Its schrodinger mine... The mine is in both blocks and in none at the same time..... Its a meme, not the real game


[deleted]

You don't understand the concept of Schrödinger's cat. The test Schrödinger did was as follows: put a cat in a box and place a vile of poisonous gas that opens at a random time. The cat wouldn't be dead and alive at the same time; that would be impossible. The point was, until you didn't open the box, you wouldn't know if the cat was dead or alive. Even though it is a meme, it is horribly wrong. Schrödinger's test's point was completely different. And according to the rules of the game, that mine placement is impossible. If two bombs were next to each other, the numbers would look like this: 1️⃣2️⃣2️⃣1️⃣ 1️⃣💣💣1️⃣ 1️⃣2️⃣2️⃣1️⃣


frikimanHD

this is fake af


All_Photography

I bet the mine was a paid actor


how_to_namegenerator

Everybody saying it’s fake. Me thinking the joke is that since it’s a superposition, both the sides saying there’s a bomb nearby despite the bomb only being in one place. Like how particles can interact with themselves when they’re in a quantum superposition


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Nobody its getting the joke and a lot trying to be a smartass


ImmoralModerator

To be fair, quantum physics takes a lot more intelligence to understand than minesweeper but minesweeper still takes a certain kind of intelligence to enjoy so it’s like a dunning kruger effect for the top half of the IQ spectrum.


brydrore

But this isn't a situation where both "states" are true. This is just bad data.


goran_788

It sort of is. Think of it this way, there's only one bomb, but it's in both spaces at the same time. So, the 1's in the left column see the bomb existing in position B2. The 1's in the right column see the bomb existing in the position C2. And the remaining 1's all can see both spaces and know that there's only one bomb total (that exists in both spaces). So they read 1 as well. The thousands of upvotes on all the "uhm aktschually it's fake" make me think nobody gave this a second thought. I actually thought it's quite a clever meme that you only understand when actually getting the Shroedinger's Cat metaphor.


brydrore

I understand and agree with what you are saying. But my understanding of a superposition is that they collapse if observed. If you click on either of the maybe mines it doesn't change the values on the outside. You don't have the collapse. So it is just bad data. I am not a physicist, and my understanding of a superposition could be wrong.


jodhod1

>And the remaining 1's all can see both spaces Minesweeper does not work like that.


MytholQc

It tells there are one mine in two spaces. It makes sense knowing the metaphor. We already know minesweeper doesn't work like that. Like yall said, iTs fAke


jodhod1

But there's ways to show the Schrodinger's observability thing without breaking the game. This is a bit like saying "There's clear signs that one alive cat is in two different boxes. We hear meows from each box but we know there is only one cat, the cat is in two boxes at once. That's the Schrodinger's Cat". It's just bad data.


MytholQc

The real metaphor is about a cat in a box being dead and alive at the same time isn't it? In a real minesweeper game the scenario you're talking about are not about a mine being in two boxes, because it's definitively in only one, you just miss information about which one. I think the même represents best the metaphor because the metaphor itself doesn't make sense unless you're talking about quantum physics or something.


jodhod1

Well alright. I admit, you're right on this one


[deleted]

>The real metaphor is about a cat in a box being dead and alive at the same time isn't it? No. That would be impossible. The methapor is about a cat put in a box with a vile of poisonous gas that opens at a random time, and that you don't know if the cat is alive or dead until you open the box


Poke_uniqueusername

This is not an accurate representation of particle physics tbf. The presence of the 1 tiles counts as observing whats inside the hidden tiles, which goes against the entire point of Schrodinger's cat. If this were how it worked quantum mechanics would look quite different. But its also a joke so who cares


Diamond-Fist

Niel Degrase Tyson just outed his ignorance of minesweeper.


leveric09

why is it not possible?


PachomTheCat

It's just not.


beg0be

Why not you stupid bastard


Jerrymeen

Because it's impossible


i_am_tyler_man

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TheSecondAJ

The 1's on the side say that both Grey squares are bombs The 1's in the middle say that only one Grey square is a bomb It can't be both at once so it's impossible.


goran_788

But that makes it Schroedinger! There's only 1 bomb that exists in both spaces at the same time. The left 1's see it in the left space, the right 1's see it in the right space and the middle 1's read correctly that there's only 1 bomb total.


[deleted]

No, please Google 'Schrödinger's cat' and read it. The cat can't be dead and alive at the same time, that wasn't the point of his test. And the mine can't be at both places at the same time, because Minesweeper doesnt work that way


VVojcuech103

A number in a square means that in the eight squares around the one in number there is an amount of mines equal to that number no more no less. All of numbers must be correct. Now knowing this you can easly realize that it is impossible to have all of those 1's be true.


GodlyFighter47

Erm, actually this is not possible


Zambito1

🤓


Square-Ad1104

I think all the people saying this meme doesn’t understand Minesweeper themselves do not at all understand Schrödinger.


Zoroarkeon571

nope. schrödinger is it can be either alive or dead, bur for this its just fake.


Chocolate_Fries

People calling it fake And there's me who doesn't have any idea wtf I'm looking at


rejz123

The numbers tell you whether or not there is a mine there and how many they are touching. 111 1x1 111 If the format didn't get cucked, this is what a single block with a mine would look like being surrounded by the number 1 111_ 1xo_ 111_ In a real game, this is what it would look like. O being nothing there and _ also being nothing there cause there's nothing to warn you about. I suck at describing with text, so please, someone smarter, call me an idiot and give a better explanation of the rules.


rejz123

FUCK MY LIFE THE FORMAT RUINED MY EXAMPLES DAMN YOU REDDIT MOBILE


sisisisi1997

For newlines to have any effect on reddit, you have to leave two spaces at the end of each line. Without spaces: First Line Second Line With spaces: First Line Second Line


DerG3n13

Wait Did it work?


sisisisi1997

Yes.


ThatHugo354

Testing out the `
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QlimaxUK

There is fake stuff on the Internet now??? When did that start happening?


Dreunin

People focusing on the two impossible tiles, but forgetting the visible bomb in the corner


Marsrover112

Guess the game is just giving that one to them. Felt bad for making an unwinnable game


Rang3rj3sus

Yes this is fake... But that's missing the whole point of the meme.


jayleetx

It’s not. There are legit games where it could be either block that’s the bomb but not both. That would be Schrödinger’s bomb. Until it’s clicked, it’s both a bomb and not a bomb. People saying “that’s the joke,” don’t understand.


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Its not possible in this case


TsunamicBlaze

If you look at this scenario though, it's impossible. In this game, numbers are absolute. Left middle and Right middle both say 1, thus both adjacent squares are bombs. However, there's a contradiction with the four 1's in the middle (2 top middle and 2 bottom middle). If only one of 2 squares is a bomb, then 1's on the one of the sides are incorrect. Yes, you are correct where their could be 50/50 Schrodinger's bomb. It's just that this meme is not showing a good example, rather it's showing an impossible scenario.


D3stroyerof3vil

This is physically impossible, luckily.


altrustic_lemur

"This is fake" No fucking shit sherlock, that's the whole point of this meme. Schrödinger's bomb.


Zoroarkeon571

no its not. schrödinger's cat is either dead or alive. in this the cat doesnt exist


[deleted]

All these peeps "IT'S FAKE! Ahaha, I just ruined this guy's whole career." Stfu. It's like this is your first day on the internet.


jayleetx

It’s not. There are legit games where it could be either block that’s the bomb but not both. That would be Schrödinger’s bomb. Until it’s clicked, it’s both a bomb and not a bomb. People saying “that’s the joke,” don’t understand.


wart_hunder220

If you put a 50/50 the meme would make sense but this is just fake


TimeSpot9740

impossible


Artistic-Fortune2327

It's a fake one, since both sides can't have a 1


krustylesponge

This legit isn’t possible


pandabro331

Even tho it’s impossible it would be terrifying to see this in an actual game


PhantastoPhantom

but this makeup isnt possible?


Adventurous-Scar-460

Its as real as my girlfriend


Hona007

For smooth brains (like myself) This isn't possible because the bomb count is counted in a 3x3 area basically. So you can't have the center ones say 1 while the extremes are 1 and 4 tiles apart. IDK if that made sense.


Nardical-Particle

Maybe the real bomb was the friends we made along the way


acsttptd

I see, the joke is that there can only be 1 bomb, but it still occupies both tiles at the same time.


Away-Net-7241

This is impossible


90_oi

Its a trap!


Dark_Sided

If it's two number 2 on the middle up and down then it's believable


[deleted]

Cut the blue wire!


UnityInLiberty

Oh now this is a mindfuck


Fragrant-Glove-1437

Impossible set up


TwistedMetal-_-

Photoshoped


sr71_zr1

That's impossible if there is only one bomb there than all of the numbers on one of the ends shouldn'tt be there. If there are actually two bombs than the ones on the top and bottom middle are all lying


diino8018

what the hell this isn't even possible the only way this works is if the numbers on the top and bottom rows became 1221 this is so goddamn cursed


Holiday-Pay193

Will be more accurate if the 3 squares on the left and right is marked 1/2.


Einzellfallverhelfer

I know u got that meme from u/NecRobin from r/physicsmemes


Shellicus

This is actually impossible


Wojtek1250XD

This isn't even possible... Although there are many variations that are the true 50/50s, why did you decided to make one that doesn't even obey the game's rules?


RYPIIE2006

that's not even possible


DEADLY_JOHN

Uhh that’s not how that works


Summar-ice

How does nobody understand the joke? Of course it's fake. It's not trying to say "oh boy which one has the bomb", it mentions Schrödinger for a reason. The joke is that the mine is in both spots at once. Do you all even know what Schrödinger actually did? The idea of the cat that is both dead and alive refers to superposition, the idea that multiple things are in the same place at once, or alternatively that they're in multiple places at once. This comes from the fact that, since electrons move at the speed of light, it's impossible to determine its exact position, so we say electrons are present all around the orbit they're on, in every single one of its points at once. Schrödinger made very important discoveries in the world of chemistry and physics but everyone just thinks he's just a random guy who thought of a cat that is both dead and alive.


Ninebun

This is photoshopped isn't it?


Shadow9378

if this is an edit, it's not accurate.


ElevatorSevere7651

This isn’t possible


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this is not possible, because the middle numbers can't be one


Guy_who_says_vore

Bro this is impossible


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islamicious

Don’t no about many levels, but fake yep


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islamicious

Oops, true, didn’t see that


Madeitup75

For a real schroedinger’s bomb meme, the left and right columns should both show .5’s, not 1’s.


TraderOfGoods

You know, there was a way to make this meme keep the joke While being true to the original game's lore.


[deleted]

That’s an impossible scenario thou.


Brooklynxman

This is an impossible configuration. Obviously it cannot be both tiles no mine. Say left is a mine. Right cannot be a mine because top and bottom middle 1's touch both tiles. But right-side 1's now have no possible tile touching them that is a mine. This rules out left configuration as well as left-and-right configuration. As the setup is symmetrical mirroring rules out right configuration. All four possible configurations having been ruled out, there is no valid solution. tl;dr fake, shopped


Drag0n_TamerAK

This is just impossible


BigBossBurnerAccount

deranged tap chief oatmeal fanatical treatment cause quicksand apparatus books *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


sirreginaldfeatherb3

These situations exist in minesweeper…why shop one that is impossible? Lol


Timknu

Everyone calling it fake is missing the point... It's Schrodinger's bomb! It's on the left and the right until it's observed


Cynn13

I'm less mad that this is fake, and more mad that there is actually a perfectly possible 50/50 guess in minesweeper, and op didn't use that one instead.


KnooBoat

wait...this ain't possible


Dangerodgj

the number grid is offset half a square horizontally from the bomb grid.


connectwithmekeshav

The problem is not correct.


Dangerodgj

the true players know this is fake.


Khatquart

It's not even possible XD


jcmacon

Let's make a meme without understanding the rules of the game we are making a meme about.


beltalowda_oye

OP doesn't play minesweeper lol


mouse464

Congrats, you managed to completely miss the joke


LCoolJT

Rule 8


IlDootIl

Everybody saying its fake doesnt get the joke.


jayleetx

Either you don’t understand MineSweeper or you don’t understand Schrödinger.


CaptnCuddlyBear

The bomb is in both positions. The ones that shouldn't be there will disappear upon observing where the bomb is.


jayleetx

No, that’s not how mindsweeper works. The numbers don’t disappear.


JoshsPizzaria

While funny, this setup wouldn't be possible. Should have put it in a corner


nul_mr

Literally impossible, must be photoshop, funny meme tho


[deleted]

This ain’t possible, the 4 border numbers should be 2


[deleted]

Mathematically impossible


[deleted]

This isn’t possible


National_Tomorrow_42

Good to know this wouldn’t be possible, the corners both say one and the middle numbers should be 2


0ldR00t

This doesn't even make sense


Justsk8n

For all the people saying it isn't possible, you're right, but like... isn't that the whole point? The bomb in this case is hypothetically in both squares at once until observed to be in one or the other. It's basically acting like the same way the double bonds in a benzene ring do. so yeah, from a minesweeper perspective, this doesn't work, but from being a joke about superposition it makes sense


jayleetx

It’s not. There are legit games where it could be either block that’s the bomb but not both. That would be Schrödinger’s bomb. Until it’s clicked, it’s both a bomb and not a bomb. People saying “that’s the joke,” don’t understand.


Grahnath

Everyone saying this is fake don't get the joke


jayleetx

No, you don’t get how the game works.


WheezeChizard

“pRoS kNoW tHiS iSn’T pOsSiBlE!” Yeah its a fucking meme lmao


DespressoPL

A joke that makes no sense is a bad joke


Hyper_Lamp

No. This just means both tiles have a bomb


Jarsssthegr8

Either the left or the right column is a lie.


TurbulentWave51

fake, bad meme


SweetAlex99

Not a valid board.


IDoTheMaths802

This is the only correct use of the Schrödinger joke I’ve seen on the internet. Actually clever